RE: Need clarification on Content Management
Thanks Anthony, Nick, and Dave. As I thought, Content Mangement is a broad topic (sorta like "web development"), and it turns out that the systems I've built for my site (at least the one I was inquiring for) can be considered a content management system. I like Dave's description... makes ya realize how vague the term could be.. (no offense intended Dave..). Ok, another question then... How best to tie in Word documents into my website? I already have a file upload capability, but I'd rather not be sending out Word document in response to requests (virus concerns and compatibility issues...). Thanks again for the Input. Shawn Grover -Original Message- From: Weaver, Anthony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Need clarification on Content Management For what it is worth, Application Development Trends recently ran a good article on this topic. http://www.adtmag.com/article.asp?id=5948 Here at The Limited, I custom built a system for our Intranet. However, if we were going to expand the scope to all of our sites (Limited, Victoria's Secret, etc), we would probably buy. I would happily fill in some more details via e-mail if you like. Hope it helps... -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Need clarification on Content Management > To me, Content Management is one of those terms which is used > to describe a process, but leaves room for interpretation. Content management is a relatively broad category. Basically, any situation in which you have individual contributors providing content for a site, you've got content management - or at least a need for it. > If Content Management means what I think it does (web managed > system for adding content to a web site), it could be useful. > But does this mean the added content is HTML files? database > fields presented in HTML? PDF files? Word files?, etc. It could be any or all of these. These are largely technical questions. The underlying business question is the important one - what kinds of content do you have to manage? > I guess what I'm looking for is a system where a user can > upload a file of any given format, and have the system > automagically tie it into the public side of the site. > Is this the purpose of Content Management? A content management system doesn't necessarily have to accept files of any formats, but yes, this is generally how CMSs work. CommonSpot, for example, provides mechanisms to allow contributors to upload HTML, Word and Powerpoint files, and have them converted to HTML. In addition, you can upload other files that can then be downloaded by users of the site. All of these things fall into the larger category of content management. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Need clarification on Content Management
Shawn, Don't want to do the shameless plug thing on the list, so... I have something that does this at http://foohbar.org/contentmonger/pro At the moment the uploaded content is shown with an icon in a sidebar link (click on a Word/Excel/PDF/txt file and, if the browser has the right soft ware, the file will display in the browser). I suppose it wouldn't be so t ough to do a direct-display thing. Interesting idea for an upgrade. Cheers, --- Matt Robertson[EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc., www.mysecretbase.com --- -- Original Message -- from: Shawn Grover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:57:12 -0700 To me, Content Management is one of those terms which is used to describe a process, but leaves room for interpretation. If Content Management means what I think it does (web managed system for adding content to a web site), it could be useful. But does this mean the added content is HTML files? database fields presented in HTML? PDF files? Word files?, etc. I guess what I'm looking for is a system where a user can upload a file of any given format, and have the system automagically tie it into the public side of the site. Is this the purpose of Content Management? Thus far, to allow this type of features, I've been making the user enter the data into a web based form, which populates a database, and then presenting the data as required. Is there an easier way?? Thanks for any info... and I appologize for my ramblings... __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Need clarification on Content Management
For what it is worth, Application Development Trends recently ran a good article on this topic. http://www.adtmag.com/article.asp?id=5948 Here at The Limited, I custom built a system for our Intranet. However, if we were going to expand the scope to all of our sites (Limited, Victoria's Secret, etc), we would probably buy. I would happily fill in some more details via e-mail if you like. Hope it helps... -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Need clarification on Content Management > To me, Content Management is one of those terms which is used > to describe a process, but leaves room for interpretation. Content management is a relatively broad category. Basically, any situation in which you have individual contributors providing content for a site, you've got content management - or at least a need for it. > If Content Management means what I think it does (web managed > system for adding content to a web site), it could be useful. > But does this mean the added content is HTML files? database > fields presented in HTML? PDF files? Word files?, etc. It could be any or all of these. These are largely technical questions. The underlying business question is the important one - what kinds of content do you have to manage? > I guess what I'm looking for is a system where a user can > upload a file of any given format, and have the system > automagically tie it into the public side of the site. > Is this the purpose of Content Management? A content management system doesn't necessarily have to accept files of any formats, but yes, this is generally how CMSs work. CommonSpot, for example, provides mechanisms to allow contributors to upload HTML, Word and Powerpoint files, and have them converted to HTML. In addition, you can upload other files that can then be downloaded by users of the site. All of these things fall into the larger category of content management. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Need clarification on Content Management
In general Content Management as it applies to the refers to a system that people use to add/edit/delete all of the content on their site. Content can be as simple or complex as the users/developers/clients determine. It its most simple for an automated content management system would allow a person to edit part of the text on a page in a site. It is most complex form it would be broken down into different function, some of which could only be performed by certain people with access. It would allow people to edit content in almost any format, including PDF, Word, Visio etc. It would allow people to determine who should have access to what content. To sum it all up. A way for one party to manage what other parties can see. At 12:57 PM 1/15/2002 -0700, you wrote: >To me, Content Management is one of those terms which is used to describe a >process, but leaves room for interpretation. > >If Content Management means what I think it does (web managed system for >adding content to a web site), it could be useful. But does this mean the >added content is HTML files? database fields presented in HTML? PDF files? >Word files?, etc. > >I guess what I'm looking for is a system where a user can upload a file of >any given format, and have the system automagically tie it into the public >side of the site. Is this the purpose of Content Management? > >Thus far, to allow this type of features, I've been making the user enter >the data into a web based form, which populates a database, and then >presenting the data as required. Is there an easier way?? > >Thanks for any info... and I appologize for my ramblings... > > __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Need clarification on Content Management
> To me, Content Management is one of those terms which is used > to describe a process, but leaves room for interpretation. Content management is a relatively broad category. Basically, any situation in which you have individual contributors providing content for a site, you've got content management - or at least a need for it. > If Content Management means what I think it does (web managed > system for adding content to a web site), it could be useful. > But does this mean the added content is HTML files? database > fields presented in HTML? PDF files? Word files?, etc. It could be any or all of these. These are largely technical questions. The underlying business question is the important one - what kinds of content do you have to manage? > I guess what I'm looking for is a system where a user can > upload a file of any given format, and have the system > automagically tie it into the public side of the site. > Is this the purpose of Content Management? A content management system doesn't necessarily have to accept files of any formats, but yes, this is generally how CMSs work. CommonSpot, for example, provides mechanisms to allow contributors to upload HTML, Word and Powerpoint files, and have them converted to HTML. In addition, you can upload other files that can then be downloaded by users of the site. All of these things fall into the larger category of content management. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
