Re: OT: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation?
Thanks everyone for lots of comments... But I guess I didn't describe the situation well. This client is very small, can't spend much money, and has ZERO knowledge of HTML (hence the analogy of my Grandmother has to be able to use it) 'First Page' is *not* wysiwyg you have to edit HTML code directly. Spectra, EZEdit, ActiveEdit, and eWebEditPro all require building a database document management system. I've done this before for other clients (by the way eWebEditPro is excellent) but it would be overkill for this and I'm not doing it for FREE anyway. I *assume* DreamWeaver is too complicated/powerful for this client. Am I wrong about this? So, can someone recommend an EASY What-You-see-is-what-you-get WEB PAGE editor that does not require ANY knowledge of HTML to simply edit the PLAIN TEXT parts of a web page? Built in upload/download would be better than requiring the use of a separate FTP program. At 10:09 AM 4/18/01 -0400, Peter Theobald wrote: Sorry for the OT post... I have a client who needs to be able to make simple text changes to static HTML pages. I tried having him use FrontPage but he managed to destroy the entire site, which I had to restore from backups. Can someone recommend an HTML editor that will simply download ONE page, allow SIMPLE editing of text, and upload THAT page. Something that my grandmother could use (hint: she wonders why she never has to put new ice in her "icebox"). ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OT: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation?
Can't you separate out the plain text into a file that the can be ssi or CF include'd ? Use Notepad to edit it. Cuteftp can be set up to edit in place I think - Original Message - From: "Peter Theobald" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 2:23 PM Subject: Re: OT: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation? Thanks everyone for lots of comments... But I guess I didn't describe the situation well. This client is very small, can't spend much money, and has ZERO knowledge of HTML (hence the analogy of my Grandmother has to be able to use it) 'First Page' is *not* wysiwyg you have to edit HTML code directly. Spectra, EZEdit, ActiveEdit, and eWebEditPro all require building a database document management system. I've done this before for other clients (by the way eWebEditPro is excellent) but it would be overkill for this and I'm not doing it for FREE anyway. I *assume* DreamWeaver is too complicated/powerful for this client. Am I wrong about this? So, can someone recommend an EASY What-You-see-is-what-you-get WEB PAGE editor that does not require ANY knowledge of HTML to simply edit the PLAIN TEXT parts of a web page? Built in upload/download would be better than requiring the use of a separate FTP program. At 10:09 AM 4/18/01 -0400, Peter Theobald wrote: Sorry for the OT post... I have a client who needs to be able to make simple text changes to static HTML pages. I tried having him use FrontPage but he managed to destroy the entire site, which I had to restore from backups. Can someone recommend an HTML editor that will simply download ONE page, allow SIMPLE editing of text, and upload THAT page. Something that my grandmother could use (hint: she wonders why she never has to put new ice in her "icebox"). ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OT: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation?
Sounds like it would almost be easier for you to build a simple database containing the parts that need editing and pop them up in a textarea on a form you create. So, can someone recommend an EASY What-You-see-is-what-you-get WEB PAGE editor that does not require ANY knowledge of HTML to simply edit the PLAIN TEXT parts of a web page? Built in upload/download would be better than requiring the use of a separate FTP program. At 10:09 AM 4/18/01 -0400, Peter Theobald wrote: Sorry for the OT post... I have a client who needs to be able to make simple text changes to static HTML pages. I tried having him use FrontPage but he managed to destroy the entire site, which I had to restore from backups. Can someone recommend an HTML editor that will simply download ONE page, allow SIMPLE editing of text, and upload THAT page. Something that my grandmother could use (hint: she wonders why she never has to put new ice in her "icebox"). ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: OT: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation?
I am currently using EZedit to edit text files that are then included into the web document. If the web documents are CFM pages then I use CFINCLUDE, if they are html pages then I use shtml and use SSI includes (or you can try and convince your ISP to allow HTML and HTM files to be processed by the SSI engine). Either way you can use EZedit to edit the text files and use CFFILE to save those changes. The users changes will automatically show up in the web documents using "include" technology. If you want to you could wrap the edit features into a security model for your client so only valid users can edit the text files. If there are many text files, just create a simple menu that links to the text file inserted into EZedit. It's pretty easy to implement. I did a rough draft in about 10 minutes. If that is not simple and cheap for your client, then you might consider purchasing a "Sams Teach Yourself FrontPage in 24 Hours" book for the client and send them on their way. It always seems that clients want CHEAP, FAST, GOOD! I hope this helps you out. -Original Message- From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:24 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation? Thanks everyone for lots of comments... But I guess I didn't describe the situation well. This client is very small, can't spend much money, and has ZERO knowledge of HTML (hence the analogy of my Grandmother has to be able to use it) 'First Page' is *not* wysiwyg you have to edit HTML code directly. Spectra, EZEdit, ActiveEdit, and eWebEditPro all require building a database document management system. I've done this before for other clients (by the way eWebEditPro is excellent) but it would be overkill for this and I'm not doing it for FREE anyway. I *assume* DreamWeaver is too complicated/powerful for this client. Am I wrong about this? So, can someone recommend an EASY What-You-see-is-what-you-get WEB PAGE editor that does not require ANY knowledge of HTML to simply edit the PLAIN TEXT parts of a web page? Built in upload/download would be better than requiring the use of a separate FTP program. At 10:09 AM 4/18/01 -0400, Peter Theobald wrote: Sorry for the OT post... I have a client who needs to be able to make simple text changes to static HTML pages. I tried having him use FrontPage but he managed to destroy the entire site, which I had to restore from backups. Can someone recommend an HTML editor that will simply download ONE page, allow SIMPLE editing of text, and upload THAT page. Something that my grandmother could use (hint: she wonders why she never has to put new ice in her "icebox"). ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: OT: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation?
Well, it really doesn't get much easier than Dreamweaver, but if you want really dumbed down (I MEAN REALLY DUMBED DOWN!!!) you could use cringing while saying it Word. Now, I know you don't want them posting that kind of garbage to the site. Really though, a simple content management system is not that difficult. Should take 30 minutes - 1 hour to design and code from the ground up. Add, edit and delete... I never let a user/client have any access to source code or allow them to post their own files to the server. Definite recipe for disaster. Especially when they are as illiterate as you state. You could probably code it using EZEdit (free) for the same cost as a licensed version of Dreamweaver. (That's $300 per hour!!!) Jeff Garza Web Developer/Webmaster Spectrum Astro, Inc. 480.892.8200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.spectrumastro.com -Original Message- From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:24 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation? Thanks everyone for lots of comments... But I guess I didn't describe the situation well. This client is very small, can't spend much money, and has ZERO knowledge of HTML (hence the analogy of my Grandmother has to be able to use it) 'First Page' is *not* wysiwyg you have to edit HTML code directly. Spectra, EZEdit, ActiveEdit, and eWebEditPro all require building a database document management system. I've done this before for other clients (by the way eWebEditPro is excellent) but it would be overkill for this and I'm not doing it for FREE anyway. I *assume* DreamWeaver is too complicated/powerful for this client. Am I wrong about this? So, can someone recommend an EASY What-You-see-is-what-you-get WEB PAGE editor that does not require ANY knowledge of HTML to simply edit the PLAIN TEXT parts of a web page? Built in upload/download would be better than requiring the use of a separate FTP program. At 10:09 AM 4/18/01 -0400, Peter Theobald wrote: Sorry for the OT post... I have a client who needs to be able to make simple text changes to static HTML pages. I tried having him use FrontPage but he managed to destroy the entire site, which I had to restore from backups. Can someone recommend an HTML editor that will simply download ONE page, allow SIMPLE editing of text, and upload THAT page. Something that my grandmother could use (hint: she wonders why she never has to put new ice in her "icebox"). ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OT: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation?
FileMaker HomePage 3.0 would seem to fit your bill, however I don't know whether filemaker is still supporting it however. Check out http://www.filemaker.com/products/hp_home.html. hth, larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 201 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 x253 fax: (703) 393-2659 http://www.ebstor.com http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- Peter Theobald wrote: Thanks everyone for lots of comments... But I guess I didn't describe the situation well. This client is very small, can't spend much money, and has ZERO knowledge of HTML (hence the analogy of my Grandmother has to be able to use it) 'First Page' is *not* wysiwyg you have to edit HTML code directly. Spectra, EZEdit, ActiveEdit, and eWebEditPro all require building a database document management system. I've done this before for other clients (by the way eWebEditPro is excellent) but it would be overkill for this and I'm not doing it for FREE anyway. I *assume* DreamWeaver is too complicated/powerful for this client. Am I wrong about this? So, can someone recommend an EASY What-You-see-is-what-you-get WEB PAGE editor that does not require ANY knowledge of HTML to simply edit the PLAIN TEXT parts of a web page? Built in upload/download would be better than requiring the use of a separate FTP program. At 10:09 AM 4/18/01 -0400, Peter Theobald wrote: Sorry for the OT post... I have a client who needs to be able to make simple text changes to static HTML pages. I tried having him use FrontPage but he managed to destroy the entire site, which I had to restore from backups. Can someone recommend an HTML editor that will simply download ONE page, allow SIMPLE editing of text, and upload THAT page. Something that my grandmother could use (hint: she wonders why she never has to put new ice in her "icebox"). ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
