Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-30 Thread Steve Bryant

Thanks on both counts!

Steve

>I think you linked to the Beta 1.5 release.
>
>Here is the blog article for Beta 2:
>http://www.bryantwebconsulting.com/blog/index.cfm/2011/3/30/Neptune-Framework-in-Beta-2
>
>Good job, Steve, this looks like an interesting project. I shall have
>to check it out.
>
>Cheers,
>Judah 

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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-30 Thread Judah McAuley

I think you linked to the Beta 1.5 release.

Here is the blog article for Beta 2:
http://www.bryantwebconsulting.com/blog/index.cfm/2011/3/30/Neptune-Framework-in-Beta-2

Good job, Steve, this looks like an interesting project. I shall have
to check it out.

Cheers,
Judah

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Steve Bryant
 wrote:
>
> For anyone interested, the near future has arrived and the second beta of 
> Neptune is out.
>
> http://www.bryantwebconsulting.com/blog/index.cfm/2011/1/18/Neptune-Beta-15
>
> I look forward to any and all feedback!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
>> Take a look at the Neptune framework and see if it doesn't come close
>> to what you are thinking (in full disclosure, I am the primary author).
>>
>> http://www.bryantwebconsulting.com/docs/neptune/
>>
>> This page, in particular, may be of interest to you:
>> http://www.bryantwebconsulting.com/docs/neptune/manage-data.cfm
>>
>> Hoping to have the second beta of this out in the *very* near future.
>
> 

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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-30 Thread Steve Bryant

For anyone interested, the near future has arrived and the second beta of 
Neptune is out.

http://www.bryantwebconsulting.com/blog/index.cfm/2011/1/18/Neptune-Beta-15

I look forward to any and all feedback!

Thanks,

Steve

> Take a look at the Neptune framework and see if it doesn't come close 
> to what you are thinking (in full disclosure, I am the primary author).
> 
> http://www.bryantwebconsulting.com/docs/neptune/
> 
> This page, in particular, may be of interest to you:
> http://www.bryantwebconsulting.com/docs/neptune/manage-data.cfm
> 
> Hoping to have the second beta of this out in the *very* near future. 

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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-29 Thread Greg Luce

+1 for Maureen's idea.


On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Maureen  wrote:

>
> A set of tools that allowed integration with existing sites such as
> Facebook, Twitter, Linkedin, Amazon, Google Maps, etc..would seem more
> useful than creating an entirely new code base for forums, etc.
>
> The forms processing sounds interesting, but I suspect it also has
> been done multiple times.
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Justin Scott 
> wrote:
> >
>
> > Instead of working on a full-on standalone application, I think I'm
> > going to focus my attention on tools to make development easier.  I
> > have a set of tools that I'd already started working on for myself
> > which will automate CRUD forms and processing (not a code generator,
> > but a set of CFCs which dynamically handle all the forms, processing,
> > etc.) that would be relatively easy to package for others to use.
> >
> >
> > -Justi
>
> 

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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-29 Thread Justin Scott

> Take a look at the Neptune framework and see if it doesn't come close
> to what you are thinking (in full disclosure, I am the primary author).
> http://www.bryantwebconsulting.com/docs/neptune/

Ah, now that is much closer to what I had in mind.  I will definitely
be taking a look at that code. :)


-Justin

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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-29 Thread Justin Scott

> Sorry Justin your going to have to use Google yourself this time :-)

Hi Russ, not to get too far off track, but that's another way of
saying: "I'm pretty sure they're out there so I'll be vague in my
argument and then not be prepared to back up my claims with examples."
 I really am interested in finding prior art, and you mentioned it's
out there so I'm asking for specific examples.  Apparently my
Google-foo is not as strong as yours. :-)


-Justin

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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-29 Thread Gerald Guido

>and processing data at runtime,

Take a look at Steve Bryant's Datamgr for handing the database side of
things. It is a staple of my tool box, especially for rapid prototyping. I
love that thing.

http://www.bryantwebconsulting.com/docs/datamgr/

HTH
G!


On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Steve Bryant  wrote:

>
> >I'm
> >thinking in terms of a set of tools which handle building the forms
> >and processing data at runtime, not a generic code generator.  I want
> >to be able to define my field and its properties once and then have
> >that automatically applied everywhere (add/edit form displays,
> >validation, processing, search, list displays, etc.) with just a
> >couple of lines of code.  If there is something available that does
> >this already I will be very excited, but I have yet to see it outside
> >of a proprietary system I worked with for a while.
>
> Justin,
>
> Take a look at the Neptune framework and see if it doesn't come close to
> what you are thinking (in full disclosure, I am the primary author).
> http://www.bryantwebconsulting.com/docs/neptune/
>
> This page, in particular, may be of interest to you:
> http://www.bryantwebconsulting.com/docs/neptune/manage-data.cfm
>
> Hoping to have the second beta of this out in the *very* near future.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
> 

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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-29 Thread Russ Michaels

Sorry Justin your going to have to use Google yourself this time :-)

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Steve Bryant <
st...@bryantwebconsulting.com> wrote:

>
> >I'm
> >thinking in terms of a set of tools which handle building the forms
> >and processing data at runtime, not a generic code generator.  I want
> >to be able to define my field and its properties once and then have
> >that automatically applied everywhere (add/edit form displays,
> >validation, processing, search, list displays, etc.) with just a
> >couple of lines of code.  If there is something available that does
> >this already I will be very excited, but I have yet to see it outside
> >of a proprietary system I worked with for a while.
>
> Justin,
>
> Take a look at the Neptune framework and see if it doesn't come close to
> what you are thinking (in full disclosure, I am the primary author).
> http://www.bryantwebconsulting.com/docs/neptune/
>
> This page, in particular, may be of interest to you:
> http://www.bryantwebconsulting.com/docs/neptune/manage-data.cfm
>
> Hoping to have the second beta of this out in the *very* near future.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
> 

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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-29 Thread Steve Bryant

>I'm
>thinking in terms of a set of tools which handle building the forms
>and processing data at runtime, not a generic code generator.  I want
>to be able to define my field and its properties once and then have
>that automatically applied everywhere (add/edit form displays,
>validation, processing, search, list displays, etc.) with just a
>couple of lines of code.  If there is something available that does
>this already I will be very excited, but I have yet to see it outside
>of a proprietary system I worked with for a while.

Justin,

Take a look at the Neptune framework and see if it doesn't come close to what 
you are thinking (in full disclosure, I am the primary author).
http://www.bryantwebconsulting.com/docs/neptune/

This page, in particular, may be of interest to you:
http://www.bryantwebconsulting.com/docs/neptune/manage-data.cfm

Hoping to have the second beta of this out in the *very* near future.

Thanks,

Steve 

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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-29 Thread Geoffrey Bentz

Sounds interesting. I have a system for automating some of this with CF9
ORM. I add validation metadata to the object properties and use the metadata
to generate both server-side validation and a client-side script to use with
the jQuery validation plugin.

I also have a system for generating the HQL joins and where clauses
for requests for filtered results coming in from the jqGrid plugin.
Currently, I hand code a whitelist of field names that will be used to
replace the values submitted via the grid, but this section could likely be
converted to operate off the object properties.

I would like to wrap this up into something for riaforge one day.

Geoffrey

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Justin Scott wrote:

>
> I'm
> thinking in terms of a set of tools which handle building the forms
> and processing data at runtime, not a generic code generator.  I want
> to be able to define my field and its properties once and then have
> that automatically applied everywhere (add/edit form displays,
> validation, processing, search, list displays, etc.) with just a
> couple of lines of code.  If there is something available that does
> this already I will be very excited, but I have yet to see it outside
> of a proprietary system I worked with for a while.
>
> -Justin
>
>


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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-29 Thread Maureen

A set of tools that allowed integration with existing sites such as
Facebook, Twitter, Linkedin, Amazon, Google Maps, etc..would seem more
useful than creating an entirely new code base for forums, etc.

The forms processing sounds interesting, but I suspect it also has
been done multiple times.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Justin Scott  wrote:
>

> Instead of working on a full-on standalone application, I think I'm
> going to focus my attention on tools to make development easier.  I
> have a set of tools that I'd already started working on for myself
> which will automate CRUD forms and processing (not a code generator,
> but a set of CFCs which dynamically handle all the forms, processing,
> etc.) that would be relatively easy to package for others to use.
>
>
> -Justi

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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-29 Thread Justin Scott

> I know I mentioned this earlier, but why not contribute to an
> existing project? Galleon could use help. Many CF projects
> could use additional developers.

I may do some of that as well. :)


-Justin

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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-29 Thread Justin Scott

> Sorry to say Justin, but there are also plenty of CRUD
> generators/builders/apps, form generators, CFC builders
> ...
> So it couldn't really get easier than it is already to be honest.

There are plenty of code generators, sure, but I've never found
anything along the lines of what I have in mind.  Generating code is
one thing, maintaining that code once generated is another thing
entirely.  At present, the workflow is usually to create the database,
run a generator against it which will generate tons of code that then
has to be cleaned up and customized.  A few months later, when the
requirements change, the generated code has been modified to the point
where you can no longer just run the generator again so you end up
making changes by hand (adding new fields in several places on forms
and processing code).  ORM can handle some database access on behalf
of a CFC but isn't generating or processing forms for you.  I'm
thinking in terms of a set of tools which handle building the forms
and processing data at runtime, not a generic code generator.  I want
to be able to define my field and its properties once and then have
that automatically applied everywhere (add/edit form displays,
validation, processing, search, list displays, etc.) with just a
couple of lines of code.  If there is something available that does
this already I will be very excited, but I have yet to see it outside
of a proprietary system I worked with for a while.

> There are also full blow apps for doing all the CRUD stuff

If you can point me to some of those I'd be interested in taking a
look (not just generic links to CFLib and RIAForge, but the actual
applications you're referring to).


-Justin

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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-29 Thread Russ Michaels

Sorry to say Justin, but there are also plenty of CRUD
generators/builders/apps, form generators, CFC builders and the likes out
there already. In fact cfeclipse and cfbuilder do that out of the box and
there are plugins for dreamweaver. There are also full blow apps for doing
all the CRUD stuff, not to mention that CF has ORM built right in.
So it couldn't really get easier than it is already to be honest.

You should checkout these sites first to see what is already available.

www.cflib.org
www.riaforge.org
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?event=productHome&exc=1&loc=en_us



On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Raymond Camden  wrote:

>
> I know I mentioned this earlier, but why not contribute to an existing
> project? Galleon could use help. Many CF projects could use additional
> developers.
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Justin Scott 
> wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to thank everyone for the feedback regarding an open source
> > ColdFusion project.  Given the availability of several decent forum
> > applications I do not believe that would be a good use of the time
> > available.  The medical billing application sounds like a good
> > project, and I wouldn't mind being involved to some degree if someone
> > organized it, but I do not have any background in that industry to put
> > together requirements for such a system.
> >
> > Instead of working on a full-on standalone application, I think I'm
> > going to focus my attention on tools to make development easier.  I
> > have a set of tools that I'd already started working on for myself
> > which will automate CRUD forms and processing (not a code generator,
> > but a set of CFCs which dynamically handle all the forms, processing,
> > etc.) that would be relatively easy to package for others to use.
> >
> >
> > -Justin
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-29 Thread Raymond Camden

I know I mentioned this earlier, but why not contribute to an existing
project? Galleon could use help. Many CF projects could use additional
developers.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Justin Scott  wrote:
>
> I'd like to thank everyone for the feedback regarding an open source
> ColdFusion project.  Given the availability of several decent forum
> applications I do not believe that would be a good use of the time
> available.  The medical billing application sounds like a good
> project, and I wouldn't mind being involved to some degree if someone
> organized it, but I do not have any background in that industry to put
> together requirements for such a system.
>
> Instead of working on a full-on standalone application, I think I'm
> going to focus my attention on tools to make development easier.  I
> have a set of tools that I'd already started working on for myself
> which will automate CRUD forms and processing (not a code generator,
> but a set of CFCs which dynamically handle all the forms, processing,
> etc.) that would be relatively easy to package for others to use.
>
>
> -Justin
>
> 

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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-29 Thread Justin Scott

I'd like to thank everyone for the feedback regarding an open source
ColdFusion project.  Given the availability of several decent forum
applications I do not believe that would be a good use of the time
available.  The medical billing application sounds like a good
project, and I wouldn't mind being involved to some degree if someone
organized it, but I do not have any background in that industry to put
together requirements for such a system.

Instead of working on a full-on standalone application, I think I'm
going to focus my attention on tools to make development easier.  I
have a set of tools that I'd already started working on for myself
which will automate CRUD forms and processing (not a code generator,
but a set of CFCs which dynamically handle all the forms, processing,
etc.) that would be relatively easy to package for others to use.


-Justin

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RE: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-28 Thread Al Musella, DPM

I didn't say it would be easy:)

I wrote the first billing program that was certified by Medicare in 
NY to transfer claims directly from a doctors office to Medicare 
(Over 30 years ago:)
  I changed it over to a web application around the time  coldfusion 
2 was released and a few doctors are still using it. However, with 
all of the coming changes, it will soon be obsolete and I would have 
to start from scratch basically.

Many doctors - maybe most - are in a bad position now. There have 
been cuts every year for the last 20 years.. and we are at the point 
where the profit margins are so thin that some doctors are going out 
of business.  They close up the private offices and go to work for 
insurance companies or join huge groups.

The HiTech act gives doctors an incentive to move to electronic 
medical records. The incentive is about $44,000 per doctor to use 
electronic medical records. And soon - if you do not use it - they 
will penalize you by taking a small % of your payments back.

I have been evaluating many EMR packages - from open source to very 
expensive.  None of them are really suitable for a small medical 
practice. There is a catch to that $44,000 incentive.  You have to 
spend more time on record keeping and billing. A LOT more time. We 
basically have a first generation of programs again - and they 
look  it.  All of the old programs that went through many generations 
of fine tuning are obsolete.  For most of the EMRs, they just slapped 
on more screens to qualify, without regard for the doctors who have 
to use it, thinking the $44,000 will offset the additional time, but 
it doesn't.
Quick example:
With my current system, it takes me about 30 seconds to write the 
chart and enter the bill.  With the best of the new systems, it takes 
about 3-4 minutes to do the same thing.  If an average doctor sees 30 
patients in a day, that takes 15 minutes of the doctor's time for 
paperwork on my system, over an hour and a half for the new system.. 
Is over an hour a day of wasted time  for 5 years worth 
$44,000?  That works out to getting paid $33 an hour for extra 
paperwork - but average overhead is over $150 an hour... so by 
getting the bonus, you lose over $110 an hour while doing the 
paperwork instead of gaining.

That doesn't count the huge bills being charged by most EMR vendors.
I considered creating a system that could be certified under the new 
rules.. but I don't think it could be commercially viable - we would 
have to charge too much and there are way too many systems out there 
now to compete against.

  However, a group effort to produce an open source EMR might open up 
a big opportunity for many people to get into the support business. 
Most doctor offices need an IT person to keep the computers running 
and someone to call when there are problems.  I picture all of the 
people who work on the project being able to list themself as support 
people for the program in their area.  Either an hourly rate or 
yearly service contract. Perhaps also offer hosting of it.

By having a lot of creative minds working on it - we could have 
numerous user interfaces to suit every type of doctor. The doctors 
could try out the various ways of entering the information and pick 
the way they like best, and offer suggestions on how to improve it.

I read the qualifications to get certified.. they are not complicated 
- just a lot of them. Nothing that a team of CFers couldn't handle!










At 01:55 PM 3/28/2011, you wrote:

>If I were putting as much work as needed to meet the
>functional, not to mention legal requirements, I would charge
>a *lot* of money for it.
>
>Doctors, medical offices, and insurance providers have
>plenty of money to pay for it.  Not to mention that there
>are legal requirements that demand certain functionality already,
>and that's just going to explode, as more medical records
>are required to be digitally available through Intranets and
>the Internet for portability and patient access.  That's a
>nightmare of responsibility for a programmer, who is going
>to be on the bottom of the lawsuit food chain if something goes wrong.
>
>If I were a doctor or insurance company, I wouldn't want to
>utilized *any* software that wasn't backed by a company that
>I could sue if something were violated legally and I had a
>doctor/medical practice or, especially an insurance company,
>coming down on me with a lawsuit because something didn't
>function exactly as required by law.
>
>I use open-source software, such as MySQL, but I wouldn't
>blame anyone if it didn't exist.  It's difficult to run a
>business on support alone, anyway.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-
>From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com]
>Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 1:01 PM
>To: cf-talk
>Subject: Re: Open source ColdFusion fo

RE: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-28 Thread Rick Faircloth

If I were putting as much work as needed to meet the
functional, not to mention legal requirements, I would charge
a *lot* of money for it.

Doctors, medical offices, and insurance providers have
plenty of money to pay for it.  Not to mention that there
are legal requirements that demand certain functionality already,
and that's just going to explode, as more medical records
are required to be digitally available through Intranets and
the Internet for portability and patient access.  That's a
nightmare of responsibility for a programmer, who is going
to be on the bottom of the lawsuit food chain if something goes wrong.

If I were a doctor or insurance company, I wouldn't want to
utilized *any* software that wasn't backed by a company that
I could sue if something were violated legally and I had a
doctor/medical practice or, especially an insurance company,
coming down on me with a lawsuit because something didn't
function exactly as required by law.

I use open-source software, such as MySQL, but I wouldn't
blame anyone if it didn't exist.  It's difficult to run a
business on support alone, anyway.



-Original Message-
From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 1:01 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Open source ColdFusion forums


On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Al Musella, DPM
 wrote:
>
>   I would love to see a good open source CF medical office
> management program that includes electronic medical records as well as
billing.
> There is a php based attempt going on at
> <http://www.oemr.org/>http://www.oemr.org/
> They did an amazing job on some parts, but dropped the ball on
> others. The user interface sucks. Not well laid out.

Do you have any idea how huge a project that is? Medical billing alone
is a huge pain, what with RVUs, the upcoming switch to IDC-10, EDI for
getting Insurance payments. Add in all the up and coming requirements
from the HITECH act with HIPPA and your EMR/PM system is a giant set
of requirements. There is a reason the software is so expensive.

Juda



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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-28 Thread Judah McAuley

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Al Musella, DPM
 wrote:
>
>   I would love to see a good open source CF medical office
> management program that includes electronic medical records as well as 
> billing.
> There is a php based attempt going on at
> http://www.oemr.org/
> They did an amazing job on some parts, but dropped the ball on
> others. The user interface sucks. Not well laid out.

Do you have any idea how huge a project that is? Medical billing alone
is a huge pain, what with RVUs, the upcoming switch to IDC-10, EDI for
getting Insurance payments. Add in all the up and coming requirements
from the HITECH act with HIPPA and your EMR/PM system is a giant set
of requirements. There is a reason the software is so expensive.

Juda

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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-28 Thread zac wingfield

what i'd really really really like to see is a fully blown cfml hosting control 
panel.

so not just a control panel that integrates with CF but a control panel that is 
built on CF. probably built around Railo if you were to go the open source 
route.

the hosting control panel would handle everything from resource allocation to 
billing to auto account creation and even domain registration.

fancy biting that one off? :-)

zac

P.S. lots of individual packages already exisit that could be brought together 
to make this happen.

FileZilla for FTP
LightHouse Pro for bug tracking and support
CF-works for billing
you get the idea... the list goes on

>Hi everyone, I've recently taken a new job that has opened up some
>free time for me, and I'm considering a project I'd thought about long
>ago but never had time to implement.  I'm curious if there is any
>interest in the development of an open source, ColdFusion-based forum
>application.  The goal would be something comparable to vBulletin or
>PHPBB done in ColdFusion, done in open source style, completely free.
>
>It would seem that Ray's Galleon forums project is still alive and
>well, so with one open source forum application out in the wild I'm
>unsure if there is really need for another.  So first, I want to be
>sure there would be interest in such a project; would the community
>welcome a second open source forum application in ColdFusion?  Would
>anyone use it?  Is there really a need for one?  Is there some other
>category of software that I could invest time into that would be
>better served?
>
>I've been writing ColdFusion for over a decade, like many of you, and
>am interested in contributing back to the community.  I welcome any
>thoughts or feedback you might have.
>
>
>-Justin Scott 

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RE: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-27 Thread Bobby Hartsfield

Here's another: http://cf4em.com/

The latest versions are SQL Server only though since I barely have time to
test even that much. 

I've also had the old school PHPBB skin turned on for a while now:
http://cf4em.com/cf4em/index.cfm

Another free CF app never hurts. In your case, there are a number of forums
out there that you can grab the best parts of and combine into a new one.

Have fun :-)

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From: Justin Scott [mailto:leviat...@darktech.org] 
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 5:41 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Open source ColdFusion forums


Hi everyone, I've recently taken a new job that has opened up some
free time for me, and I'm considering a project I'd thought about long
ago but never had time to implement.  I'm curious if there is any
interest in the development of an open source, ColdFusion-based forum
application.  The goal would be something comparable to vBulletin or
PHPBB done in ColdFusion, done in open source style, completely free.

It would seem that Ray's Galleon forums project is still alive and
well, so with one open source forum application out in the wild I'm
unsure if there is really need for another.  So first, I want to be
sure there would be interest in such a project; would the community
welcome a second open source forum application in ColdFusion?  Would
anyone use it?  Is there really a need for one?  Is there some other
category of software that I could invest time into that would be
better served?

I've been writing ColdFusion for over a decade, like many of you, and
am interested in contributing back to the community.  I welcome any
thoughts or feedback you might have.


-Justin Scott



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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-27 Thread Al Musella, DPM

   I would love to see a good open source CF medical office 
management program that includes electronic medical records as well as billing.
There is a php based attempt going on at 
http://www.oemr.org/
They did an amazing job on some parts, but dropped the ball on 
others. The user interface sucks. Not well laid out.


> > anyone use it?  Is there really a need for one?  Is there some other
> > category of software that I could invest time into that would be
> > better served?
> >



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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-27 Thread Justin Scott

> E-Commerce maybe?

That is something else I considered and eventually rejected as an idea
for an open source project.  First, most e-commerce projects have
specific needs, so an existing project might get 80% of the way there
but will usually be missing that last 20% which makes it essentially
useless to all but the most basic needs.  Second, since e-commerce is
generally considered mission critical, ongoing and continual support
is important; many clients want a vendor they can call if there is a
problem and are reluctant to use free software.  (If the e-commerce
isn't mission critical, a more entry-level solution such as a PayPal
store would likely be easier to implement and manage, not to mention
less risky).  Third, industry regulations (specifically the PCI-DSS)
have made e-commerce more difficult and put a lot more requirements
and liability on the merchant, so clients are reluctant to use free
software as they do not want liability for losses and want a vendor
they can fall back on if there is a security problem which results in
a breach.

Now, a project which focused on the individual pieces that are
necessary to run e-commerce might be interesting.  For example, a
collection of CFCs that normalized the interface to payment gateways
could be useful (i.e. a "paymentgateway" object that defines the
interface and a series of CFCs that extend it and implement the
specific API calls to a variety of gateways).  That would make
handling changes in payment gateways easier to handle.  There are
other options available that handle much of this already though.


-Justin Scott

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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-26 Thread Greg Luce

E-Commerce maybe?
-- 
Greg Luce


On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Raymond Camden  wrote:

>
> Before building a new app, if you would think that Galleon is _close_
> to what you would need, I'd definitely recommend working on that
> instead. But shoot - even as the creator, I'd say the more the
> merrier. :)
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Justin Scott 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone, I've recently taken a new job that has opened up some
> > free time for me, and I'm considering a project I'd thought about long
> > ago but never had time to implement.  I'm curious if there is any
> > interest in the development of an open source, ColdFusion-based forum
> > application.  The goal would be something comparable to vBulletin or
> > PHPBB done in ColdFusion, done in open source style, completely free.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> ===
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>
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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-26 Thread Raymond Camden

Before building a new app, if you would think that Galleon is _close_
to what you would need, I'd definitely recommend working on that
instead. But shoot - even as the creator, I'd say the more the
merrier. :)


On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Justin Scott  wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, I've recently taken a new job that has opened up some
> free time for me, and I'm considering a project I'd thought about long
> ago but never had time to implement.  I'm curious if there is any
> interest in the development of an open source, ColdFusion-based forum
> application.  The goal would be something comparable to vBulletin or
> PHPBB done in ColdFusion, done in open source style, completely free.
>





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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-26 Thread Russ Michaels

Here are the currently known CF based forums.

http://www.carehart.org/cf411/#bb




On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Kelly  wrote:

>
> That would rock! I would love to see one phpbb style.  If you need any
> beta testers let me know!
>
> On 3/26/2011 5:41 PM, Justin Scott wrote:
> > Hi everyone, I've recently taken a new job that has opened up some
> > free time for me, and I'm considering a project I'd thought about long
> > ago but never had time to implement.  I'm curious if there is any
> > interest in the development of an open source, ColdFusion-based forum
> > application.  The goal would be something comparable to vBulletin or
> > PHPBB done in ColdFusion, done in open source style, completely free.
> >
> > It would seem that Ray's Galleon forums project is still alive and
> > well, so with one open source forum application out in the wild I'm
> > unsure if there is really need for another.  So first, I want to be
> > sure there would be interest in such a project; would the community
> > welcome a second open source forum application in ColdFusion?  Would
> > anyone use it?  Is there really a need for one?  Is there some other
> > category of software that I could invest time into that would be
> > better served?
> >
> > I've been writing ColdFusion for over a decade, like many of you, and
> > am interested in contributing back to the community.  I welcome any
> > thoughts or feedback you might have.
> >
> >
> > -Justin Scott
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-26 Thread Kelly

That would rock! I would love to see one phpbb style.  If you need any 
beta testers let me know!

On 3/26/2011 5:41 PM, Justin Scott wrote:
> Hi everyone, I've recently taken a new job that has opened up some
> free time for me, and I'm considering a project I'd thought about long
> ago but never had time to implement.  I'm curious if there is any
> interest in the development of an open source, ColdFusion-based forum
> application.  The goal would be something comparable to vBulletin or
> PHPBB done in ColdFusion, done in open source style, completely free.
>
> It would seem that Ray's Galleon forums project is still alive and
> well, so with one open source forum application out in the wild I'm
> unsure if there is really need for another.  So first, I want to be
> sure there would be interest in such a project; would the community
> welcome a second open source forum application in ColdFusion?  Would
> anyone use it?  Is there really a need for one?  Is there some other
> category of software that I could invest time into that would be
> better served?
>
> I've been writing ColdFusion for over a decade, like many of you, and
> am interested in contributing back to the community.  I welcome any
> thoughts or feedback you might have.
>
>
> -Justin Scott
>
> 

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Re: Open source ColdFusion forums

2011-03-26 Thread Peter Donahue

Hello Justin and everyone,

The more CF Applications to choose from the better so bring on another 
open source CF-based forum application.

Peter Donahue


- Original Message - 
From: "Justin Scott" 
To: "cf-talk" 
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: Open source ColdFusion forums



Hi everyone, I've recently taken a new job that has opened up some
free time for me, and I'm considering a project I'd thought about long
ago but never had time to implement.  I'm curious if there is any
interest in the development of an open source, ColdFusion-based forum
application.  The goal would be something comparable to vBulletin or
PHPBB done in ColdFusion, done in open source style, completely free.

It would seem that Ray's Galleon forums project is still alive and
well, so with one open source forum application out in the wild I'm
unsure if there is really need for another.  So first, I want to be
sure there would be interest in such a project; would the community
welcome a second open source forum application in ColdFusion?  Would
anyone use it?  Is there really a need for one?  Is there some other
category of software that I could invest time into that would be
better served?

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am interested in contributing back to the community.  I welcome any
thoughts or feedback you might have.


-Justin Scott



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