Re: Sending SMS

[richpaul7 .]

you're welcome.  Yea this has been working well for us for years, to
send out alerts to our registered users.

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 3:09 PM, UXB Internet  wrote:
>
>>  Verizon:   vtext.com
>>  Nextel:  messaging.nextel.com
>>  Sprint:   messaging.sprintpcs.com
>>  Cingular:   cingularme.com
>>  Virgin Mobile:   vmobl.com
>>  T-Mobile:  tmomail.net
>
>
> Thanks this was helpful.
>
>

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RE: Sending SMS

[UXB Internet]

>  Verizon:   vtext.com
>  Nextel:  messaging.nextel.com
>  Sprint:   messaging.sprintpcs.com
>  Cingular:   cingularme.com
>  Virgin Mobile:   vmobl.com
>  T-Mobile:  tmomail.net


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Re: Sending SMS

[Bryan Stevenson]

Not always an XML packet - Clickatel and their HTTP API uses CFHTTP with 
basic params - no XML

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On 14-11-18 05:21 PM, Mike K wrote:
> < you have to know what carrier the customer you're sending a sms is on
> right?>>
>
>
> No.   Its your carrier not theirs.   Just like you dont need to know what
> carrier someone is using to call them. Best is to use an aggregator if
> you're sending any volume of messages.   The cheapest today wont
> necessarily be the cheapest tomorrow.   I used a UK aggregator, and believe
> it or not it was faster from my US server than using an Australian or US
> service.   But only marginally.  Didn't make much difference in reality.
> We set up races between mobile phones and the xml packet based aggregator
> and several other combinations and the UK Aggregator beat all the other
> ways by a second or two seconds,  even when it was routing the messages
> through a South African carrier to an Australian carrier to another
> Australian carrier to my phone.
>
> The full mobile phone number will find the device  no matter where in the
> world it is,  no matter what carrier they're connected to.
>
> But as far as ColdFusion is concerned,  you'll either be making up an email
> containing the message and sending it using CFMail  or using an XML packet
> and sending that by cfhttp.  Depends on how your service is set up.Rest
> assured it wont be the most difficult ColdFusion task you've ever done.
>
> Cheers
> Mike Kear
> Windsor, NSW, Australia



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Re: Sending SMS

[Bryan Stevenson]

Yes...you got it Rick

Another decision point for you is this...

Are you intending on just sending out texts? or also receiving?

If receiving is that part of a "conversation" (i.e. they send you a 
start code, you ask a question, they provide an answer and so on).  If 
you are looking at that then you need the equivalent of SMS session 
management.  That functionality is built in to the CF SMS gateway and 
relies on I believe the SNDP/SNPP protocol (sorry I probably butchered 
that acronym).  You can write your own session management and use the 
HTTP method - I have done so and it wasn't all that bad.

IF all you are doing is sending out and not expecting a response - go 
HTTP or even simpler as some have mentioned - ye olde e-mail a text 
message route (not sure all carrier allow that anymore and knowing what 
carrier matters).

Hope that helps you navigate it all a bit better - I know I could have 
used some help when I dove in a few years back ;-)

Cheers

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On 14-11-18 04:31 PM, Rick Sanders wrote:
> That's great but what about sending to different carriers? I'm guessing you 
> have to know what carrier the customer you're sending a sms is on right?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
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Re: Sending SMS

[richpaul7 .]

Verizon:   vtext.com
Nextel:  messaging.nextel.com
Sprint:   messaging.sprintpcs.com
Cingular:   cingularme.com
Virgin Mobile:   vmobl.com
T-Mobile:  tmomail.net

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 8:54 AM, UXB Internet  wrote:
>
> I know it can be re-created but for us lazy ones on the list would you be
> willing to  share the Carrier to domain table?
>
>
> Dennis Powers
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RE: Sending SMS

[UXB Internet]

I know it can be re-created but for us lazy ones on the list would you be
willing to  share the Carrier to domain table?


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>  -Original Message-
>  From: richpaul7 . [mailto:richpa...@gmail.com]
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:02 PM
>  To: cf-talk
>  Subject: Re: Sending SMS
>  
>  
>  In my scenario, it's my user who wants my website to send them a text.
>  So, someone signs up for text alerts from my site, I ask them for their
>  number and carrier, and then I can just email to their number + carriers
>  domain and it's converted to a text.
>  
>  
>  On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Rick Sanders  wrote:
>  >
>  > That's great but what about sending to different carriers? I'm guessing
you
>  have to know what carrier the customer you're sending a sms is on right?
>  >
>  > Kind Regards,
>  >
>  > Rick Sanders
>  >
>  > Canada:
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Re: Sending SMS

[richpaul7 .]

In my scenario, it's my user who wants my website to send them a text.
So, someone signs up for text alerts from my site, I ask them for
their number and carrier, and then I can just email to their number +
carriers domain and it's converted to a text.


On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Rick Sanders  wrote:
>
> That's great but what about sending to different carriers? I'm guessing you 
> have to know what carrier the customer you're sending a sms is on right?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Rick Sanders
>
> Canada:

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Re: Sending SMS

[Tom McNeer]

Like Pete, I've used Twilio's services, though it's most useful if you're
also receiving SMS messages. It's been a long time since i used them, but
if you decide to do so, I probably have some old code that might get you
started.

But if you're only sending, never receiving, the email-to-text option is
simpler.

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Pete Freitag  wrote:

>
> I've worked quite a bit with Twilio for sending and receiving text messages
> in CF: https://www.twilio.com/ they have a REST api, that is pretty easy
> to
> use: https://www.twilio.com/docs/api/rest/sending-messages
>
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> minutes
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Rick Sanders  wrote:
>
> >
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > Does anyone know a service I can use for sending sms messages from cold
> > fusion? I want to make an app that notifies someone by sms when their
> > product is ready.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Rick Sanders
> >
> > Canada:  USA:
> > 171 Main St   1205 N. Second Ave
> > Dartmouth, NS  Siler City, NC
> > T: 902-401-7689   T: 919-799-9076
> > W: www.webenergy.ca  W:
> > www.webenergyusa.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Sending SMS

[Pete Freitag]

I've worked quite a bit with Twilio for sending and receiving text messages
in CF: https://www.twilio.com/ they have a REST api, that is pretty easy to
use: https://www.twilio.com/docs/api/rest/sending-messages

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On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Rick Sanders  wrote:

>
> Hey guys,
>
> Does anyone know a service I can use for sending sms messages from cold
> fusion? I want to make an app that notifies someone by sms when their
> product is ready.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Rick Sanders
>
> Canada:  USA:
> 171 Main St   1205 N. Second Ave
> Dartmouth, NS  Siler City, NC
> T: 902-401-7689   T: 919-799-9076
> W: www.webenergy.ca  W:
> www.webenergyusa.com
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Sending SMS

[Mike K]

<>


No.   Its your carrier not theirs.   Just like you dont need to know what
carrier someone is using to call them. Best is to use an aggregator if
you're sending any volume of messages.   The cheapest today wont
necessarily be the cheapest tomorrow.   I used a UK aggregator, and believe
it or not it was faster from my US server than using an Australian or US
service.   But only marginally.  Didn't make much difference in reality.
We set up races between mobile phones and the xml packet based aggregator
and several other combinations and the UK Aggregator beat all the other
ways by a second or two seconds,  even when it was routing the messages
through a South African carrier to an Australian carrier to another
Australian carrier to my phone.

The full mobile phone number will find the device  no matter where in the
world it is,  no matter what carrier they're connected to.

But as far as ColdFusion is concerned,  you'll either be making up an email
containing the message and sending it using CFMail  or using an XML packet
and sending that by cfhttp.  Depends on how your service is set up.Rest
assured it wont be the most difficult ColdFusion task you've ever done.

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia


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RE: Sending SMS

[Rick Sanders]

That's great but what about sending to different carriers? I'm guessing you 
have to know what carrier the customer you're sending a sms is on right?

Kind Regards,

Rick Sanders

Canada:  USA:
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Dartmouth, NS  Siler City, NC
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-Original Message-
From: richpaul7 . [mailto:richpa...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:26 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Sending SMS


I added SMS support using email.  for example, for Verizon, it's the 
phonenum...@vtext.com I googled it and found eahc carriers domain for 
email-to-text and then added a dropdown list for the carriers when my users 
enter their phone number to receive texts.

I don't use any service at all, it's a simple cfmail



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Re: Sending SMS

[richpaul7 .]

I added SMS support using email.  for example, for Verizon, it's the
phonenum...@vtext.com
I googled it and found eahc carriers domain for email-to-text and then
added a dropdown list for the carriers when my users enter their phone
number to receive texts.

I don't use any service at all, it's a simple cfmail

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Re: Sending SMS

[Bryan Stevenson]

In the grand scheme of things - yes it can be - if you need an 
aggregator and can use the gateway

...and the CF gateway only works with certain APIs - depending on the 
SMS aggregator - just getting an account to use that API with them can 
take some doing as it has the capability to mass SPAM in a serious way.

I use the HTTP API at Clickatel and it is DEAD easy to use.

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On 14-11-18 03:50 PM, Rick Sanders wrote:
> Thanks Bryan,
>
> So it's like online payment. You need a gateway then a payment processor.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:32 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Sending SMS
>
>
> Hey Rick,
>
> I'd say the answer depends on your situation.
>
> A big determining factor is what carrier are the folks on that you would be 
> sending to?  I ask because if only one carrier you can go low cost and failry 
> easy.
>
> If multiple carriers, you may want to consider using an SMS aggregator as 
> they know how to connect and send SMS messages through all the various 
> carrier networks (for a fee per text message - those fees vary wildly 
> depending on the various APIs you have to choose from).  I use Clickatel for 
> SMS aggregation services in the state of Maryland and I think we are talking 
> pennies per text (you load account with credits and they get consumed - can 
> notify as you get low etc).
>
> Once you have the carrier details sorted, then it's HOW you send (there is an 
> SMS gateway in CF, but you can also just call APIs with say Clickatel using 
> their HTTP API (one of 3-5 they offer). SOme APIs are meant fo super high 
> volume - some for lowsome offer different feautures.
>
> So there is a simple primer to aid in some core decision making - I'll keep 
> an eye on this thread - ask away! ;-)
>
> Take care
>
> -Bryan
>
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> President & CEO
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Re: Sending SMS

[Russ Michaels]

You can do this with most any sms service, they all provide an API. I use
clickatel, very simple api, can be called with a simple http post or get.


On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 23:50 PM, Rick Sanders  wrote:


Thanks Bryan,

So it's like online payment. You need a gateway then a payment processor.

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com ]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:32 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Sending SMS


Hey Rick,

I'd say the answer depends on your situation.

A big determining factor is what carrier are the folks on that you would be
sending to?  I ask because if only one carrier you can go low cost and
failry easy.

If multiple carriers, you may want to consider using an SMS aggregator as
they know how to connect and send SMS messages through all the various
carrier networks (for a fee per text message - those fees vary wildly
depending on the various APIs you have to choose from).  I use Clickatel
for SMS aggregation services in the state of Maryland and I think we are
talking pennies per text (you load account with credits and they get
consumed - can notify as you get low etc).

Once you have the carrier details sorted, then it's HOW you send (there is
an SMS gateway in CF, but you can also just call APIs with say Clickatel
using their HTTP API (one of 3-5 they offer). SOme APIs are meant fo super
high volume - some for lowsome offer different feautures.

So there is a simple primer to aid in some core decision making - I'll keep
an eye on this thread - ask away! ;-)

Take care

-Bryan

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President & CEO
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS^(TM)
phone: 250.480.0642
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com  >
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RE: Sending SMS

[Rick Sanders]

Thanks Bryan,

So it's like online payment. You need a gateway then a payment processor.

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:32 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Sending SMS


Hey Rick,

I'd say the answer depends on your situation.

A big determining factor is what carrier are the folks on that you would be 
sending to?  I ask because if only one carrier you can go low cost and failry 
easy.

If multiple carriers, you may want to consider using an SMS aggregator as they 
know how to connect and send SMS messages through all the various carrier 
networks (for a fee per text message - those fees vary wildly depending on the 
various APIs you have to choose from).  I use Clickatel for SMS aggregation 
services in the state of Maryland and I think we are talking pennies per text 
(you load account with credits and they get consumed - can notify as you get 
low etc).

Once you have the carrier details sorted, then it's HOW you send (there is an 
SMS gateway in CF, but you can also just call APIs with say Clickatel using 
their HTTP API (one of 3-5 they offer). SOme APIs are meant fo super high 
volume - some for lowsome offer different feautures.

So there is a simple primer to aid in some core decision making - I'll keep an 
eye on this thread - ask away! ;-)

Take care

-Bryan

*Bryan Stevenson*B.Comm.
President & CEO
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS^(TM)
phone: 250.480.0642
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com <mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com>
web: www.electricedgesystems.com <http://www.electricedgesystems.com>
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Re: Sending SMS

[Bryan Stevenson]

you need more than the gateway John ;-)

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Re: Sending SMS

[John M Bliss]

http://smsgateway.riaforge.org

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Rick Sanders  wrote:

>
> Hey guys,
>
> Does anyone know a service I can use for sending sms messages from cold
> fusion? I want to make an app that notifies someone by sms when their
> product is ready.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Rick Sanders
>
> Canada:  USA:
> 171 Main St   1205 N. Second Ave
> Dartmouth, NS  Siler City, NC
> T: 902-401-7689   T: 919-799-9076
> W: www.webenergy.ca  W:
> www.webenergyusa.com
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Sending SMS

[Phillip Vector]

I worked on a system that had to do this. All I did was find out how each
system handled Email to SMS and used that.

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Rick Sanders  wrote:

>
> Hey guys,
>
> Does anyone know a service I can use for sending sms messages from cold
> fusion? I want to make an app that notifies someone by sms when their
> product is ready.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Rick Sanders
>
> Canada:  USA:
> 171 Main St   1205 N. Second Ave
> Dartmouth, NS  Siler City, NC
> T: 902-401-7689   T: 919-799-9076
> W: www.webenergy.ca  W:
> www.webenergyusa.com
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Sending SMS

[Bryan Stevenson]

Hey Rick,

I'd say the answer depends on your situation.

A big determining factor is what carrier are the folks on that you would 
be sending to?  I ask because if only one carrier you can go low cost 
and failry easy.

If multiple carriers, you may want to consider using an SMS aggregator 
as they know how to connect and send SMS messages through all the 
various carrier networks (for a fee per text message - those fees vary 
wildly depending on the various APIs you have to choose from).  I use 
Clickatel for SMS aggregation services in the state of Maryland and I 
think we are talking pennies per text (you load account with credits and 
they get consumed - can notify as you get low etc).

Once you have the carrier details sorted, then it's HOW you send (there 
is an SMS gateway in CF, but you can also just call APIs with say 
Clickatel using their HTTP API (one of 3-5 they offer). SOme APIs are 
meant fo super high volume - some for lowsome offer different feautures.

So there is a simple primer to aid in some core decision making - I'll 
keep an eye on this thread - ask away! ;-)

Take care

-Bryan

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