Re: favorite coldfusion host
Curious to see what everybody's favorite coldfusion host is also? Hostek? CrystalTech? DailyRazor? I've had really good service from Enterhost. The difference of course is that I went the dedicated server, and a pumped-up one at that. I used to host with Viux, and while their support was pretty good, they required that you use the console software, which I detest, and charged you the extra $100/ mo for it. Just give me an RDP connection and I'm good. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341723 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: favorite coldfusion host
KickAssVPS Great support, very little down-time (occasional maintenance), RDP (which is all I use) Win 2008, CF 8/9, etc. -Original Message- From: Michael Muller [mailto:ad...@montaguema.net] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 12:47 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: favorite coldfusion host Curious to see what everybody's favorite coldfusion host is also? Hostek? CrystalTech? DailyRazor? I've had really good service from Enterhost. The difference of course is that I went the dedicated server, and a pumped-up one at that. I used to host with Viux, and while their support was pretty good, they required that you use the console software, which I detest, and charged you the extra $100/ mo for it. Just give me an RDP connection and I'm good. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341727 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: favorite coldfusion host
+1,000,000 for Enterhost dedicated servers. I've been with them for many years now. Every year or so I shop around just to keep them honest, and every year or so I stay put. Why? They're unbeatable, both in service and price. The best thing about their service? I rarely ever need them, and on the odd occasion that I do, they're extremely responsive. And to clarify on price, when you're getting quotes, make sure you know what you're actually getting for the price you're being quoted. You can quickly find dozens of hosts that will give you cheaper pricing than Enterhost will, but when you look at the fine print you realize that you have to add all kinds of things (like firewalls, for example) to get a true setup. Enterhost includes everything in one up-front price. On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Michael Muller wrote: Curious to see what everybody's favorite coldfusion host is also? Hostek? CrystalTech? DailyRazor? I've had really good service from Enterhost. The difference of course is that I went the dedicated server, and a pumped-up one at that. I used to host with Viux, and while their support was pretty good, they required that you use the console software, which I detest, and charged you the extra $100/ mo for it. Just give me an RDP connection and I'm good. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341728 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: favorite coldfusion host [spamtrap bayes][spamtrap heur]
CFDynamics do not try to be cheap, which is an advantage in some ways as it means they can put less customers per server. When a host has to compete to be the cheapest, they have to try and pile as many sites per server as possible to make it cost effective, which is where the problems start. There are so many issues people are not aware of which can cause issues, some of which are not even CF related. For example, badly designed databases being hit with badly written queries can cause a big bottleneck on the DB server, which in turn causes a bottleneck on the web servers as requests to the database server start to queue up. In this scenario, a site written in ASP/PHP can cause problems for CF sites and vice versa, on every server with a site connecting to that db server. This is just pot luck whether you share a server with a customer causing such problems. -Original Message- From: Paul Hastings [mailto:p...@sustainablegis.com] Sent: 28 January 2011 01:58 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: favorite coldfusion host [spamtrap bayes][spamtrap heur] On 1/28/2011 2:07 AM, Larry Lyons wrote: I've had a lot of good experience with CFDynamics. They're not the cheapest, but they're pretty reasonable. The tech support is first rate however, with the techs actually knowing CF. yeah, cfdynamics are so reliable i often forget who we host with. pretty much no drama ever. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341613 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: favorite coldfusion host
I've had a lot of good experience with CFDynamics. They're not the cheapest, but they're pretty reasonable. The tech support is first rate however, with the techs actually knowing CF. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341559 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: favorite coldfusion host [spamtrap bayes][spamtrap heur]
On 1/28/2011 2:07 AM, Larry Lyons wrote: I've had a lot of good experience with CFDynamics. They're not the cheapest, but they're pretty reasonable. The tech support is first rate however, with the techs actually knowing CF. yeah, cfdynamics are so reliable i often forget who we host with. pretty much no drama ever. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341592 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: favorite coldfusion host
The hosting provider question seems to come up every few weeks, even though there are hundreds, possibly thousands, of answers to this question in the House of Fusion mailing list archives. If I had to make a guess at the three most popular topics on this mailing list I would say: 1. What hosing provider do you use? 2. What IDE do you use? 3. Why does Adobe charge so much for their products? ColdFusion would be more popular if everything was free. If you are brand new to this mailing list I would point out that the House of Fusion Web site has a search engine that lets you see all the prior answers to these questions. -Mike Chabot On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.comwrote: Curious to see what everybody's favorite coldfusion host is also? Hostek? CrystalTech? DailyRazor? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341322 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: favorite coldfusion host
When looking for a host here are a few tips. DO NOT use host review sites, nearly all are scams. http://hosting-reviews-exposed.com Here are a couple of sites with host reviews which are trustworthy and contain real reviews. http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/ www.brownbook.net If a host has customer feedback on their own site, people often assume it is made up. However if the feedback includes the clients name/website details, then you can contact them directly and ask for a reference. Contact the hosts tech support and test their knowledge. There are also some important things you need to know if you are using shared hosting that most poeple are not aware of. Imagine the shared hosting server is like a motorway with hundreds of cars, at any time any one of those other cars could serve, break down, break hard or do any number of actions that would cause a crash which would effect everyone else on the motorway and could bring everything to a stand still. You have no idea how bad any of those other drivers are or what condition their car may be in, and there is nothing you can do about it if you want to drive on that road and each time you do so you are taking a gamble. This is quite similar to how shared hosting works, as any other site(s) on the server could do something to cause major problems for other sites, and there is nothing you or anyone else can do about this as you have no idea how other customers will behave and neither do the host, if they are using the server for development or testing, how badly written their code may be etc, so just like driving on the motorway, every day is a gamble. If your site is mission critical or is your companies primary source of income then gambling with shared hosting is not really the best solution. A dedicated solution will avoid the problems associated with shared hosting as you are running your own server on which you are the only customer, so the only site that cause problems is your own. This is rather like having your own private motorway on which you are the only car, and so as a result you are not taking that gamble every time you use it. With the cost of a VPS being so cheap these days, if it really worth gambling your business with shared hosting ? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341325 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: favorite coldfusion host
Thought I was being filtered there russ. I think I am going to go with hostek but thanks for all the input everybody save for the few negatives. On Jan 26, 2011 6:02 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: When looking for a host here are a few tips. DO NOT use host review sites, nearly all are scams. http://hosting-reviews-exposed.com Here are a couple of sites with host reviews which are trustworthy and contain real reviews. http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/ www.brownbook.net If a host has customer feedback on their own site, people often assume it is made up. However if the feedback includes the clients name/website details, then you can contact them directly and ask for a reference. Contact the hosts tech support and test their knowledge. There are also some important things you need to know if you are using shared hosting that most poeple are not aware of. Imagine the shared hosting server is like a motorway with hundreds of cars, at any time any one of those other cars could serve, break down, break hard or do any number of actions that would cause a crash which would effect everyone else on the motorway and could bring everything to a stand still. You have no idea how bad any of those other drivers are or what condition their car may be in, and there is nothing you can do about it if you want to drive on that road and each time you do so you are taking a gamble. This is quite similar to how shared hosting works, as any other site(s) on the server could do something to cause major problems for other sites, and there is nothing you or anyone else can do about this as you have no idea how other customers will behave and neither do the host, if they are using the server for development or testing, how badly written their code may be etc, so just like driving on the motorway, every day is a gamble. If your site is mission critical or is your companies primary source of income then gambling with shared hosting is not really the best solution. A dedicated solution will avoid the problems associated with shared hosting as you are running your own server on which you are the only customer, so the only site that cause problems is your own. This is rather like having your own private motorway on which you are the only car, and so as a result you are not taking that gamble every time you use it. With the cost of a VPS being so cheap these days, if it really worth gambling your business with shared hosting ? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341326 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: favorite coldfusion host
You forgot Is Coldfusion dying/is dead? On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 3:20 AM, Mike Chabot mcha...@gmail.com wrote: The hosting provider question seems to come up every few weeks, even though there are hundreds, possibly thousands, of answers to this question in the House of Fusion mailing list archives. If I had to make a guess at the three most popular topics on this mailing list I would say: 1. What hosing provider do you use? 2. What IDE do you use? 3. Why does Adobe charge so much for their products? ColdFusion would be more popular if everything was free. If you are brand new to this mailing list I would point out that the House of Fusion Web site has a search engine that lets you see all the prior answers to these questions. -Mike Chabot On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.comwrote: Curious to see what everybody's favorite coldfusion host is also? Hostek? CrystalTech? DailyRazor? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341330 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: favorite coldfusion host
Curious to see what everybody's favorite coldfusion host is also? Hostek? CrystalTech? DailyRazor? + 1 Viviotech. I feel much better knowing those guys have my back. I have two VPS's with them. One for my Railo, one for my Database. No, it isn't discount-cheap-fast food hosting. You get what you pay for though. Will ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341331 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: favorite coldfusion host
I've been happy with CrystalTech or NewTek ... whatever they're called now. Definitely agree on HMS / Hosting.com ... did *not* have good experiences with them. From: Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 9:53 PM To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: favorite coldfusion host FWIW, I've had unpleasant experiences with HostMySite / Hosting.com and have moved everything away from them. They used to be my 'go to' hosting company back in the day but since Neil and Lou left it's gone totally downhill as far as CF is concerned. I've had less than stellar experiences with CrystalTech (years ago, maybe they're better now?) and words can't begin to describe GoDaddy's CF hosting (one of the most viewed posts ever on my blog is a writeup of their hosting - with 170+ comments, nearly all complaints about them). Sean ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341335 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: favorite coldfusion host
+ 1 Viviotech. +1 godzillion. I feel much better knowing those guys have my back. The *do* have your back. Good to know that others feel the same way. No, it isn't discount-cheap-fast food hosting. You get what you pay for though. Absolutely. And worth every penny and them some. G! On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Will Tomlinson w...@wtomlinson.com wrote: Curious to see what everybody's favorite coldfusion host is also? Hostek? CrystalTech? DailyRazor? + 1 Viviotech. I feel much better knowing those guys have my back. I have two VPS's with them. One for my Railo, one for my Database. No, it isn't discount-cheap-fast food hosting. You get what you pay for though. Will ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341337 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: favorite coldfusion host
If you're going to host on Hostek's shared servers be aware they do have issues with slowness and downtime. At least they did when I was there. But at $5 a month ( actually $25 but that gets you 5 sites - that's the plan I was on ) you get what you pay for, if you're willing to pay for the higher priced (I believe it's like 25-35 a month for ONE site) you will see much better performance. Kelly On 1/26/2011 6:26 AM, Michael Firth wrote: Thought I was being filtered there russ. I think I am going to go with hostek but thanks for all the input everybody save for the few negatives. On Jan 26, 2011 6:02 AM, Russ Michaelsr...@michaels.me.uk wrote: When looking for a host here are a few tips. DO NOT use host review sites, nearly all are scams. http://hosting-reviews-exposed.com Here are a couple of sites with host reviews which are trustworthy and contain real reviews. http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/ www.brownbook.net If a host has customer feedback on their own site, people often assume it is made up. However if the feedback includes the clients name/website details, then you can contact them directly and ask for a reference. Contact the hosts tech support and test their knowledge. There are also some important things you need to know if you are using shared hosting that most poeple are not aware of. Imagine the shared hosting server is like a motorway with hundreds of cars, at any time any one of those other cars could serve, break down, break hard or do any number of actions that would cause a crash which would effect everyone else on the motorway and could bring everything to a stand still. You have no idea how bad any of those other drivers are or what condition their car may be in, and there is nothing you can do about it if you want to drive on that road and each time you do so you are taking a gamble. This is quite similar to how shared hosting works, as any other site(s) on the server could do something to cause major problems for other sites, and there is nothing you or anyone else can do about this as you have no idea how other customers will behave and neither do the host, if they are using the server for development or testing, how badly written their code may be etc, so just like driving on the motorway, every day is a gamble. If your site is mission critical or is your companies primary source of income then gambling with shared hosting is not really the best solution. A dedicated solution will avoid the problems associated with shared hosting as you are running your own server on which you are the only customer, so the only site that cause problems is your own. This is rather like having your own private motorway on which you are the only car, and so as a result you are not taking that gamble every time you use it. With the cost of a VPS being so cheap these days, if it really worth gambling your business with shared hosting ? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341345 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: favorite coldfusion host
Agreed! They ROCK! I think their prices are great considering the support and quality. I've paid more elsewhere for crappy service in one way or another. On 1/26/2011 8:27 AM, Will Tomlinson wrote: Curious to see what everybody's favorite coldfusion host is also? Hostek? CrystalTech? DailyRazor? + 1 Viviotech. I feel much better knowing those guys have my back. I have two VPS's with them. One for my Railo, one for my Database. No, it isn't discount-cheap-fast food hosting. You get what you pay for though. Will ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341346 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: favorite coldfusion host
Actually I chose the 7.95 because SQL Server is part of my skill set. I do hope there isn't any downtime, but at least I only signed up for the monthly just in case. Never know until one tries though. On Jan 26, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Kelly wrote: If you're going to host on Hostek's shared servers be aware they do have issues with slowness and downtime. At least they did when I was there. But at $5 a month ( actually $25 but that gets you 5 sites - that's the plan I was on ) you get what you pay for, if you're willing to pay for the higher priced (I believe it's like 25-35 a month for ONE site) you will see much better performance. Kelly On 1/26/2011 6:26 AM, Michael Firth wrote: Thought I was being filtered there russ. I think I am going to go with hostek but thanks for all the input everybody save for the few negatives. On Jan 26, 2011 6:02 AM, Russ Michaelsr...@michaels.me.uk wrote: When looking for a host here are a few tips. DO NOT use host review sites, nearly all are scams. http://hosting-reviews-exposed.com Here are a couple of sites with host reviews which are trustworthy and contain real reviews. http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/ www.brownbook.net If a host has customer feedback on their own site, people often assume it is made up. However if the feedback includes the clients name/website details, then you can contact them directly and ask for a reference. Contact the hosts tech support and test their knowledge. There are also some important things you need to know if you are using shared hosting that most poeple are not aware of. Imagine the shared hosting server is like a motorway with hundreds of cars, at any time any one of those other cars could serve, break down, break hard or do any number of actions that would cause a crash which would effect everyone else on the motorway and could bring everything to a stand still. You have no idea how bad any of those other drivers are or what condition their car may be in, and there is nothing you can do about it if you want to drive on that road and each time you do so you are taking a gamble. This is quite similar to how shared hosting works, as any other site(s) on the server could do something to cause major problems for other sites, and there is nothing you or anyone else can do about this as you have no idea how other customers will behave and neither do the host, if they are using the server for development or testing, how badly written their code may be etc, so just like driving on the motorway, every day is a gamble. If your site is mission critical or is your companies primary source of income then gambling with shared hosting is not really the best solution. A dedicated solution will avoid the problems associated with shared hosting as you are running your own server on which you are the only customer, so the only site that cause problems is your own. This is rather like having your own private motorway on which you are the only car, and so as a result you are not taking that gamble every time you use it. With the cost of a VPS being so cheap these days, if it really worth gambling your business with shared hosting ? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341349 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: favorite coldfusion host
+1 ! Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 Skype: markakruger www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:seancorfi...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:48 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: favorite coldfusion host On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote: Curious to see what everybody's favorite coldfusion host is also? Hostek? CrystalTech? DailyRazor? Personally I'm a huge fan of Edge Web Hosting - they really know their stuff. I've also heard a lot of good things about Vivio Tech and their team are awesome (I deal with them quite a bit). -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atw ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341369 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: favorite coldfusion host
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Mike Kear afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: What sorts of questions do you expect a hosting company to be knowledgeable about and willing to help you with (aside from specific hosting questions of course)? A few things I have seen hosting companies have trouble with: - Understanding what the implications of Maintain connections across client requests or Enable long text retrieval settings. - Knowing how to diagnose memory or CPU utilization issues being caused by another customer on a shared server. - Understanding the difference between a problem caused by a developer's code and one that is the fault of the host. - Making blanket statements blaming CF for any and every problem reported without any willingness to understand the problem. -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341382 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: favorite coldfusion host
Localhost count? Heh sent from my Droid phone On Jan 25, 2011 8:05 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote: Curious to see what everybody's favorite coldfusion host is also? Hostek? CrystalTech? DailyRazor? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341263 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: favorite coldfusion host
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote: Curious to see what everybody's favorite coldfusion host is also? Hostek? CrystalTech? DailyRazor? Personally I'm a huge fan of Edge Web Hosting - they really know their stuff. I've also heard a lot of good things about Vivio Tech and their team are awesome (I deal with them quite a bit). -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atw ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341274 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: favorite coldfusion host
Sean, Thanks. Finally an answer to this one. I ask because as someone whos been away for a while wasn't too sure who was the best anymore. I think I will take a look at Edge. I was looking at Hostek and they have excellent framework support. I will see and compare the two though. Thanks, Mike On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:48 PM, Sean Corfield wrote: On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote: Curious to see what everybody's favorite coldfusion host is also? Hostek? CrystalTech? DailyRazor? Personally I'm a huge fan of Edge Web Hosting - they really know their stuff. I've also heard a lot of good things about Vivio Tech and their team are awesome (I deal with them quite a bit). -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atw ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341278 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: favorite coldfusion host
FWIW, I've had unpleasant experiences with HostMySite / Hosting.com and have moved everything away from them. They used to be my 'go to' hosting company back in the day but since Neil and Lou left it's gone totally downhill as far as CF is concerned. I've had less than stellar experiences with CrystalTech (years ago, maybe they're better now?) and words can't begin to describe GoDaddy's CF hosting (one of the most viewed posts ever on my blog is a writeup of their hosting - with 170+ comments, nearly all complaints about them). Sean On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote: Curious to see what everybody's favorite coldfusion host is also? Hostek? CrystalTech? DailyRazor? Personally I'm a huge fan of Edge Web Hosting - they really know their stuff. I've also heard a lot of good things about Vivio Tech and their team are awesome (I deal with them quite a bi ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341279 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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Ah I remember GoDaddy. What a horror story that was. I am disappointed to hear about CrystalTech because I actually had some good experiences with them.. I am surprised to hear about Hostmysite.com though. Thought they were always the gold standard per say even though I never tried them. On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:52 PM, Sean Corfield wrote: FWIW, I've had unpleasant experiences with HostMySite / Hosting.com and have moved everything away from them. They used to be my 'go to' hosting company back in the day but since Neil and Lou left it's gone totally downhill as far as CF is concerned. I've had less than stellar experiences with CrystalTech (years ago, maybe they're better now?) and words can't begin to describe GoDaddy's CF hosting (one of the most viewed posts ever on my blog is a writeup of their hosting - with 170+ comments, nearly all complaints about them). Sean On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote: Curious to see what everybody's favorite coldfusion host is also? Hostek? CrystalTech? DailyRazor? Personally I'm a huge fan of Edge Web Hosting - they really know their stuff. I've also heard a lot of good things about Vivio Tech and their team are awesome (I deal with them quite a bi ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341285 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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As a small-scale hoster myself, I'm interested in what makes a hosting company good (or otherwise). I'm assuming that a few of the factors are: [A] site stays up more often than not - a LOT more often than not. Preferably 100% of the time [B] when there are problems, they're handled quickly and reliably, first time. [C] support people listen to what you say and act on that rather than a copperplate pre-defined answer/action. [D] Price is in the market, and there are several payment options. What else? (or am I wrong in thinking the above are important factors?) Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote: Ah I remember GoDaddy. What a horror story that was. I am disappointed to hear about CrystalTech because I actually had some good experiences with them.. I am surprised to hear about Hostmysite.com though. Thought they were always the gold standard per say even though I never tried them. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341290 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Mike Kear afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: What else? (or am I wrong in thinking the above are important factors?) You missed one of the most important factors (for me): * support people know their arse from their elbow when it comes to ColdFusion That's the main complaint I've had (and heard) about hosting companies: they simply don't understand the product well enough to support it properly. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwoo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341294 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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Mike, They are all important and thanks for the input. Good to hear from an actual hosting company and hear your unique perspective. I think probably my biggest concern is how good is the support. If you can keep my site up around 99.5 percent and answer most questions with someone there that would cover 75% of it for me. Being a developer we can be somewhat picky, but at least for me the above would be the biggest factor. Mike On Jan 25, 2011, at 10:01 PM, Mike Kear wrote: As a small-scale hoster myself, I'm interested in what makes a hosting company good (or otherwise). I'm assuming that a few of the factors are: [A] site stays up more often than not - a LOT more often than not. Preferably 100% of the time [B] when there are problems, they're handled quickly and reliably, first time. [C] support people listen to what you say and act on that rather than a copperplate pre-defined answer/action. [D] Price is in the market, and there are several payment options. What else? (or am I wrong in thinking the above are important factors?) Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote: Ah I remember GoDaddy. What a horror story that was. I am disappointed to hear about CrystalTech because I actually had some good experiences with them.. I am surprised to hear about Hostmysite.com though. Thought they were always the gold standard per say even though I never tried them. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341295 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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You have a point there. Actually, after speaking to the people at Hostek, I did quiz them on a few areas and they seem to have handled themselves quite well. They even answered my questions about the frameworks and how did they support them. On Jan 25, 2011, at 10:07 PM, Sean Corfield wrote: On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Mike Kear afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: What else? (or am I wrong in thinking the above are important factors?) You missed one of the most important factors (for me): * support people know their arse from their elbow when it comes to ColdFusion That's the main complaint I've had (and heard) about hosting companies: they simply don't understand the product well enough to support it properly. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwoo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341300 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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I've also had really good experiences with CrytalTech. I found their tech staff can be hit or miss, but what they lack in knowledge I've found they made up for in cooperation. Just make sure you know exactly what you're calling for. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.comwrote: Ah I remember GoDaddy. What a horror story that was. I am disappointed to hear about CrystalTech because I actually had some good experiences with them.. I am surprised to hear about Hostmysite.com though. Thought they were always the gold standard per say even though I never tried them. On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:52 PM, Sean Corfield wrote: FWIW, I've had unpleasant experiences with HostMySite / Hosting.com and have moved everything away from them. They used to be my 'go to' hosting company back in the day but since Neil and Lou left it's gone totally downhill as far as CF is concerned. I've had less than stellar experiences with CrystalTech (years ago, maybe they're better now?) and words can't begin to describe GoDaddy's CF hosting (one of the most viewed posts ever on my blog is a writeup of their hosting - with 170+ comments, nearly all complaints about them). Sean On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote: Curious to see what everybody's favorite coldfusion host is also? Hostek? CrystalTech? DailyRazor? Personally I'm a huge fan of Edge Web Hosting - they really know their stuff. I've also heard a lot of good things about Vivio Tech and their team are awesome (I deal with them quite a bi ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341304 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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That is true Michael. I can remember that there were times when I had questions regarding coldfusion they actually had to look up the answers to them. My other pet peeve was that blasted small font they always used lmao. Thanks, Michael On Jan 25, 2011, at 10:22 PM, Michael Grant wrote: I've also had really good experiences with CrytalTech. I found their tech staff can be hit or miss, but what they lack in knowledge I've found they made up for in cooperation. Just make sure you know exactly what you're calling for. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.comwrote: Ah I remember GoDaddy. What a horror story that was. I am disappointed to hear about CrystalTech because I actually had some good experiences with them.. I am surprised to hear about Hostmysite.com though. Thought they were always the gold standard per say even though I never tried them. On Jan 25, 2011, at 9:52 PM, Sean Corfield wrote: FWIW, I've had unpleasant experiences with HostMySite / Hosting.com and have moved everything away from them. They used to be my 'go to' hosting company back in the day but since Neil and Lou left it's gone totally downhill as far as CF is concerned. I've had less than stellar experiences with CrystalTech (years ago, maybe they're better now?) and words can't begin to describe GoDaddy's CF hosting (one of the most viewed posts ever on my blog is a writeup of their hosting - with 170+ comments, nearly all complaints about them). Sean On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote: Curious to see what everybody's favorite coldfusion host is also? Hostek? CrystalTech? DailyRazor? Personally I'm a huge fan of Edge Web Hosting - they really know their stuff. I've also heard a lot of good things about Vivio Tech and their team are awesome (I deal with them quite a bi ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341306 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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Hostek I wasn't happy with lotsa down time. Crystaltech not too happy with and a bit pricey. I've heard good things about Edge Web as well. I ended up getting a VPS linux server at Viviotech, running CF 9 enterprise for under $100 a month. I couldn't be happier. And their support is 2nd to none! Love these guys! Kelly On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.com wrote: Curious to see what everybody's favorite coldfusion host is also? Hostek? CrystalTech? DailyRazor? Personally I'm a huge fan of Edge Web Hosting - they really know their stuff. I've also heard a lot of good things about Vivio Tech and their team are awesome (I deal with them quite a bit). -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atw ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341314 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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What sorts of questions do you expect a hosting company to be knowledgeable about and willing to help you with (aside from specific hosting questions of course)? DO you expect them to know how to use every tag and function? Syntax things? (I happen to be pretty experienced at that level, as a practicing developer of about 14 years experience) but I'm interested in what you expect of a hosting company. Or do you want the hosting company to be knowledgeable more about server issues - throughput, optimising code, finding bottlenecks? I know that where I'm not hosting a site I'm working on, few hosting support people will answer questions like my report is giving the wrong results - can you look at the query and tell me what I've done wrong. The answer to that one is thats probably in the manuals - look there or ask someone else.But if one of my clients calls me with a question like that, I'll help them.Sometimes even fix the code for them and send it to them, if I have the time available. I've had Perth's Fasthit do things like that for me too. And Kym Kovan is extremely knowledgeable and helpful with things like that too, if she has the time available. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341317 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
