Re: html emails with javascript in outlook

2003-10-17 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Thursday 16 Oct 2003 17:45 pm, Dave Watts wrote:
 Not until you mentioned it, so I took a look (http://www.horde.org/), and
 no, it's no substitute for Exchange + Outlook. Not by a long shot. 

I jsut thought it had all the right bits - sharable calenders/contacts etc.

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Re: html emails with javascript in outlook

2003-10-16 Thread John McCosker
Thanks Thomas, thanks craig,

some very interesting points raised there.

After reading them I feel I should have known better really.

A good insight into spamming there, good in the sense that I can better
prevent it in the future.
I'll send all as HTML attachments.

Respectfully,

J

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Re: html emails with javascript in outlook

2003-10-16 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Wednesday 15 Oct 2003 21:02 pm, Richard Crawford wrote:
 On the other hand, if your IT department has installed a resource hog
 like Exchange, you may be stuck, unfortunately.

Do what I did and get them to enable POP/IMAP access to it. If they enable the 
web interface, even better, plus you can then get shared calender functions 
via WebDAV :-)

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Re: html emails with javascript in outlook

2003-10-16 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Wednesday 15 Oct 2003 20:55 pm, DURETTE, STEVEN J (AIT) wrote:
 I can think of one good reason...
 Because corporate policy requires me to!

Then your company IT department are looking at things the wrong way.
What Manchester Univeristy (for instance) says, is that they will provide you 
with methods X, Y and Z to access your email. They will support clients A,B 
and C.
If you want to use K to read your email, that's fine, because X and Y are all 
standard open protocols.

This is the way IT should, imho, be provided - as a service, not a blanket 
imposition of someone elses 'best way' on everyone.

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Re: html emails with javascript in outlook

2003-10-16 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Wednesday 15 Oct 2003 22:21 pm, Dave Watts wrote:
 I have yet to find a single client/server package which provides the
 functionality of Exchange and Outlook, other than Openmail. If all you do

Seen Horde ?

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RE: html emails with javascript in outlook

2003-10-16 Thread Dave Watts
  I have yet to find a single client/server package which provides 
  the functionality of Exchange and Outlook, other than Openmail. 
 
 Seen Horde ?

Not until you mentioned it, so I took a look (http://www.horde.org/), and
no, it's no substitute for Exchange + Outlook. Not by a long shot. I do
appreciate the pointer, though.

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Re: html emails with javascript in outlook

2003-10-15 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Wednesday 15 Oct 2003 11:06 am, John McCosker wrote:
 The customer is getting the reports in the correct html format but the
 _javascript_ seems to be disabled.
 Is there some setting in outlook which does this. I have had a look but
 cannot find it.

Yes, and IMHO you shouldn't disable it, it's there for several very good 
reasons.

You'd be better shipping them a zip file or something they can unpack and view 
in their web browser.

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Re: html emails with javascript in outlook

2003-10-15 Thread Richard Crawford
Kevin Graeme wrote:

 On a related, related note: the new Outlook 2003 will disable images
 from an
 external source.

Why anyone would want to use Outlook is beyond me, personally.Oh, 
there are some legitimate reasons to spread worms and viruses.But 
beyond that, I can't see any other purpose to Outlook or OE.Perfectly 
acceptable alternatives exist, with better and more complete functionality.

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RE: html emails with javascript in outlook

2003-10-15 Thread Tangorre, Michael
such as???

-Original Message-
From: Richard Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 3:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: html emails with _javascript_ in outlook

Kevin Graeme wrote:

 On a related, related note: the new Outlook 2003 will disable images
 from an
 external source.

Why anyone would want to use Outlook is beyond me, personally.Oh, 
there are some legitimate reasons to spread worms and viruses.But 
beyond that, I can't see any other purpose to Outlook or OE.Perfectly 
acceptable alternatives exist, with better and more complete functionality.

_


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RE: html emails with javascript in outlook

2003-10-15 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J (AIT)
I can think of one good reason...

 
Because corporate policy requires me to!

 
Steve

-Original Message-
From: Richard Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 3:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: html emails with _javascript_ in outlook

Kevin Graeme wrote:

 On a related, related note: the new Outlook 2003 will disable images
 from an
 external source.

Why anyone would want to use Outlook is beyond me, personally.Oh, 
there are some legitimate reasons to spread worms and viruses.But 
beyond that, I can't see any other purpose to Outlook or OE.Perfectly 
acceptable alternatives exist, with better and more complete functionality.

_


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Re: html emails with javascript in outlook

2003-10-15 Thread Richard Crawford
Tangorre, Michael wrote:

 such as???

Eudora.Pegasus.And, my personal favorite, Thunderbird, which is 
open-source and can be easily extended with, say, a calendar.None of 
these will allow a worm to automatically spread itself through your 
address book.Heck, if you wipe MS Office off your hard drive and 
replace it with a suite of Thunderbird/Firebird/OpenOffice, you'll have 
remarkably little trouble with viruses (aside from deleting those that 
come from people who use Outlook - I finally ended up training 
SpamAssassin to mark those as spam immediately when they come in).

On the other hand, if your IT department has installed a resource hog 
like Exchange, you may be stuck, unfortunately.

And as for those who are stuck using Outlook because of corporate 
policy... I'm genuinely sorry, and you have my condolences.:)

But please don't mind me.My animosity towards MS is especially 
virulent today since I'm forced to plod my way and write outrageous 
scripts in VBA to do something that would have been child's play in 
Oracle.Well, maybe not child's play, but a heck of a lot simpler.


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RE: html emails with javascript in outlook

2003-10-15 Thread Tangorre, Michael
anyways...

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From: Richard Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 4:03 PM
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Subject: Re: html emails with _javascript_ in outlook

Tangorre, Michael wrote:

 such as???

Eudora.Pegasus.And, my personal favorite, Thunderbird, which is 
open-source and can be easily extended with, say, a calendar.None of 
these will allow a worm to automatically spread itself through your 
address book.Heck, if you wipe MS Office off your hard drive and 
replace it with a suite of Thunderbird/Firebird/OpenOffice, you'll have 
remarkably little trouble with viruses (aside from deleting those that 
come from people who use Outlook - I finally ended up training 
SpamAssassin to mark those as spam immediately when they come in).

On the other hand, if your IT department has installed a resource hog 
like Exchange, you may be stuck, unfortunately.

And as for those who are stuck using Outlook because of corporate 
policy... I'm genuinely sorry, and you have my condolences.:)

But please don't mind me.My animosity towards MS is especially 
virulent today since I'm forced to plod my way and write outrageous 
scripts in VBA to do something that would have been child's play in 
Oracle.Well, maybe not child's play, but a heck of a lot simpler.

_


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RE: html emails with javascript in outlook

2003-10-15 Thread Dave Watts
 On the other hand, if your IT department has installed a 
 resource hog like Exchange, you may be stuck, unfortunately.

Exchange needn't be a resource hog, and it works pretty well when set up
correctly, in most environments.

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RE: html emails with javascript in outlook

2003-10-15 Thread Dave Watts
 Why anyone would want to use Outlook is beyond me, personally.
 Oh, there are some legitimate reasons to spread worms and viruses.
 But beyond that, I can't see any other purpose to Outlook or OE.
 Perfectly acceptable alternatives exist, with better and more 
 complete functionality.

I have yet to find a single client/server package which provides the
functionality of Exchange and Outlook, other than Openmail. If all you do
with Outlook is send mail, yes, there are better alternatives. If you do
other things, though, both Outlook and Exchange provides quite a bit of
useful functionality.

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Re: html emails with javascript in outlook

2003-10-15 Thread Claude Schneegans
Why anyone would want to use Outlook is beyond me,

Just because it comes with Windows and people don't care to look for something else.
If people don't care to look for something else, it means they don't care either to look
for patches and new versions. This means that, despite Microsoft's notice that they
solve problems and correct flaws and breaches, we still have many years ahead with
virus, trojans and other garbage from stupid users.

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