SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Ciliotta, Mario
Hi,

 
Can anyone provide a rehash of last nights meeting?  I got stuck at work and I
would love to know what was talked about, of course if this is allowed and not
against any non-discloser agreement.

 
Thanks
Mario
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Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Ubqtous
Mario,

On 5/20/2004 at 09:59, you wrote:

CM> Can anyone provide a rehash of last nights meeting?  I got stuck
CM> at work and I would love to know what was talked about, of course
CM> if this is allowed and not against any non-discloser agreement.

I didn't sign an NDA ;)

If NYCFUG was in on the MM Breeze presentation, it was basically a
high level overview of MM's plans for the rest of the year and into
next.

Some teaser demos of BlackStone, including very nifty CFFORM & FLASH
integration. Also CFDOCUMENT TYPE="PDF" (or something to that effect).

Other demo included Contribute 1.5 and Central 1.5... which I found
mildly interesting at first, but ultimately boring as I don't use
those products.

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Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Thursday 20 May 2004 15:19 pm, Ubqtous wrote:
> I didn't sign an NDA ;)
...
> Some teaser demos of BlackStone, including very nifty CFFORM & FLASH
> integration. Also CFDOCUMENT TYPE="PDF" (or something to that effect).

Does this mean we can stop dropping vague hints the next time anyone asks 
about generating PDF from CFML ? :-)

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Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Scott Brady
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> From: Thomas Chiverton 

> Does this mean we can stop dropping vague hints the next time anyone asks 
> about generating PDF from CFML ? :-)

Sure, if you don't mind telling them that it will be sometime in 2005 before they can actually use it. :)

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Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Matt Liotta
The cfdocument tag and its ability to produce PDF from HTML in the body 
of the tag is public knowledge and has been for sometime. Although, 
Macromedia hasn't committed in anyway to this tag, so it might not be 
there at all. Of course, I highly doubt they would bother showing it if 
they didn't think it was going to be included.

Also public knowledge is the changes to the cfform tag that allow one 
to have rich forms based on Flash.

-Matt

On May 20, 2004, at 10:55 AM, Thomas Chiverton wrote:

> On Thursday 20 May 2004 15:19 pm, Ubqtous wrote:
>  > I didn't sign an NDA ;)
>  ...
>  > Some teaser demos of BlackStone, including very nifty CFFORM & FLASH
>  > integration. Also CFDOCUMENT TYPE="PDF" (or something to that 
> effect).
>
>  Does this mean we can stop dropping vague hints the next time anyone 
> asks
>  about generating PDF from CFML ? :-)
>
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Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Alexander Sherwood
At 11:13 AM 5/20/2004, you wrote:
>The cfdocument tag and its ability to produce PDF from HTML in the body 
>of the tag is public knowledge and has been for sometime. Although, 
>Macromedia hasn't committed in anyway to this tag, so it might not be 
>there at all. Of course, I highly doubt they would bother showing it if 
>they didn't think it was going to be included.
>
>Also public knowledge is the changes to the cfform tag that allow one 
>to have rich forms based on Flash.
>
>-Matt

Also rumored: a good bit of "gateway" functionality, largely centered around SMS. Apparently you can create gateways and assign components to "listen" to the gateway and respond.

Just a rumor, though.

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Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Ray Champagne
What is this all about now?  PDF's from CFML?  Easily? Me likee, want to 
hear more

Ray

At 10:55 AM 5/20/2004, you wrote:
>On Thursday 20 May 2004 15:19 pm, Ubqtous wrote:
> > I didn't sign an NDA ;)
>...
> > Some teaser demos of BlackStone, including very nifty CFFORM & FLASH
> > integration. Also CFDOCUMENT TYPE="PDF" (or something to that effect).
>
>Does this mean we can stop dropping vague hints the next time anyone asks
>about generating PDF from CFML ? :-)
>
>--
>Tom Chiverton
>Advanced ColdFusion Programmer
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RE: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Ben Forta
Be sure to drop by one of the stop on my upcoming user group tour (stops
listed at http://  www.forta.com/, right column) to
see examples of this in action ...

 
Ooops, did I say that publicly!?!?!? Bad bad!

 


 
--- Ben

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From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

What is this all about now?  PDF's from CFML?  Easily? Me likee, want to 
hear more

Ray

At 10:55 AM 5/20/2004, you wrote:
>On Thursday 20 May 2004 15:19 pm, Ubqtous wrote:
> > I didn't sign an NDA ;)
>...
> > Some teaser demos of BlackStone, including very nifty CFFORM & FLASH
> > integration. Also CFDOCUMENT TYPE="PDF" (or something to that effect).
>
>Does this mean we can stop dropping vague hints the next time anyone asks
>about generating PDF from CFML ? :-)
>
>--
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>Advanced ColdFusion Programmer
>
>Tel: +44(0)1749 834997
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>Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF
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Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Ubqtous
Ben,

On 5/20/2004 at 12:06, you wrote:

BF> Be sure to drop by one of the stop on my upcoming user group tour
BF> (stops listed at http://  www.forta.com/,
BF> right column) to see examples of this in action ...

You'll be happy to know that your tour was heavily advertised during
last night's Breeze presentation ;)

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Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Don
>I didn't sign an NDA ;)
>
>If NYCFUG was in on the MM Breeze presentation, it was basically a
>high level overview of MM's plans for the rest of the year and into
>next.
>
>Some teaser demos of BlackStone, including very nifty CFFORM & FLASH
>integration. Also CFDOCUMENT TYPE="PDF" (or something to that effect).
>~ Ubqtous ~

I missed it last night.  Talking about BlackStone, anything about code protection?
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RE: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Ben Forta
Very happy about that.

 
I was even happier when I heard that the DW chat started with an opener,
asking who you'd want to be stuck on  desert island with, and I came in 1st
(ahead of the DW team, ouch!). :-)

 
--- Ben

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From: Ubqtous [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 12:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

Ben,

On 5/20/2004 at 12:06, you wrote:

BF> Be sure to drop by one of the stop on my upcoming user group tour
BF> (stops listed at http://  www.forta.com/,
BF> right column) to see examples of this in action ...

You'll be happy to know that your tour was heavily advertised during
last night's Breeze presentation ;)

~ Ubqtous ~ 
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RE: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Ben Forta
No, that was not specifically mentioned. I can't comment on this feature
specifically, but I do plan on discussing this on tour stops.

 
--- Ben

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From: Chunshen (Don) Li [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 12:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

>I didn't sign an NDA ;)
>
>If NYCFUG was in on the MM Breeze presentation, it was basically a
>high level overview of MM's plans for the rest of the year and into
>next.
>
>Some teaser demos of BlackStone, including very nifty CFFORM & FLASH
>integration. Also CFDOCUMENT TYPE="PDF" (or something to that effect).
>~ Ubqtous ~

I missed it last night.  Talking about BlackStone, anything about code
protection? 
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RE: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Ciliotta, Mario
Not to put a damper on anything in the new version of CF, but Blue Dragon does
offer very good code protection.  It seems as though the CFML templates can be
precompiled and encrypted.

 
The templates are no longer human readable.  There is no way to return the
COML. templates to there original COML. form.  They also state that they run
faster since they are pre-complied??

 
It seems to be key based and the key is specific to your application and if
some tries to run your app on another installation of Blue Dragon, it will
fail since it does not have the key.

 
Seems like this is a pretty cool feature.

 
Mario
-Original Message-
From: Chunshen Li [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 12:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

>I didn't sign an NDA ;)
>
>If NYCFUG was in on the MM Breeze presentation, it was basically a
>high level overview of MM's plans for the rest of the year and into
>next.
>
>Some teaser demos of BlackStone, including very nifty CFFORM & FLASH
>integration. Also CFDOCUMENT TYPE="PDF" (or something to that effect).
>~ Ubqtous ~

I missed it last night.  Talking about BlackStone, anything about code
protection? 
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Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Christian Cantrell
On May 20, 2004, at 11:59 AM, Ray Champagne wrote:

> What is this all about now?  PDF's from CFML?  Easily? Me likee, want 
> to
>  hear more

Here's your chance.  Ben, Tim and Dave Gruber will be presenting at 
12:00 PM Pacific (3:00 PM Eastern).  Just go to the URL below:

http://macromedia.breezecentral.com/r36158305/

Christian
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RE: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Sandy Clark
I saw a quote from you that said that while you were talking about all sorts
of neat stuff at the regular user group meeting, that you were actually
saving the big guns for the CFUN-04 conference in June! Can't wait Ben, see
ya there!

 
Sandy
http://www.cfconf.org/cfun-04/

 
and I promise, no rush this time

  _  

Be sure to drop by one of the stop on my upcoming user group tour (stops
listed at http://  www.forta.com/, right column) to
see examples of this in action ...

Ooops, did I say that publicly!?!?!? Bad bad!



--- Ben

  _  

From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

What is this all about now?  PDF's from CFML?  Easily? Me likee, want to 
hear more

Ray

At 10:55 AM 5/20/2004, you wrote:
>On Thursday 20 May 2004 15:19 pm, Ubqtous wrote:
> > I didn't sign an NDA ;)
>...
> > Some teaser demos of BlackStone, including very nifty CFFORM & FLASH
> > integration. Also CFDOCUMENT TYPE="PDF" (or something to that effect).
>
>Does this mean we can stop dropping vague hints the next time anyone asks
>about generating PDF from CFML ? :-)
>
>--
>Tom Chiverton
>Advanced ColdFusion Programmer
>
>Tel: +44(0)1749 834997
>email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Underwood Business Park
>Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF
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RE: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Be sure to drop by one of the stop on my upcoming user group tour (stops
> listed at http://  www.forta.com/, right column) to
> see examples of this in action ...

Heh, you're going to be at CFUN as well, aren't you?

Hatton

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Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Don
OK.  If it won't make you break NDA etc, any time frame for next cf release?

>No, that was not specifically mentioned. I can't comment on this feature
>specifically, but I do plan on discussing this on tour stops.
> 
>--- Ben
> 
> 
>
>  _  
>
>From: Chunshen (Don) Li [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 12:37 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.
>
>
>
>I missed it last night.  Talking about BlackStone, anything about code
>protection? 
>  _
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Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Jeff Garza
I've heard that this macrochat will be focused on the currently released version of CFMX... so I wouldn't hold you breath on hearing anything about Blackstone...  I might be, and I hope that I am, completely wrong on this...  I'd love to see more Blackstone information... the Worldwide Usergroup meeting preview was just a teaser... 

Cheers,

Jeff Garza
Manager, Phoenix CFUG
  - Original Message - 
  From: Christian Cantrell 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 10:07 AM
  Subject: Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

  On May 20, 2004, at 11:59 AM, Ray Champagne wrote:

  > What is this all about now?  PDF's from CFML?  Easily? Me likee, want 
  > to
  >  hear more

  Here's your chance.  Ben, Tim and Dave Gruber will be presenting at 
  12:00 PM Pacific (3:00 PM Eastern).  Just go to the URL below:

  http://macromedia.breezecentral.com/r36158305/

  Christian
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Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Ubqtous
Ben,

On 5/20/2004 at 12:36, you wrote:

BF> asking who you'd want to be stuck on  desert island with, and I
BF> came in 1st (ahead of the DW team, ouch!). :-)

Certain CFUGers (not me, mind you) wanted to base their choice on what
you'd be wearing :)

Many said that the DW designer would be better as they felt the
likelihood would be high that the designer would be a woman; oddly,
those same people chose the killer web app over the beautiful spouse
in the other poll.

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Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Ubqtous
Chunshen,

On 5/20/2004 at 13:41, you wrote:

CL> any time frame for next cf release

2005 was as specific as they'd get...and fairly noncommittal at that.
But I don't think it will be concurrent with Longhorn's release ;)

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RE: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Ben Forta
Yep, indeed. CFUN opens the 5th week of the tour.

 
--- Ben

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From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 1:39 PM
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Subject: RE: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

> Be sure to drop by one of the stop on my upcoming user group tour (stops
> listed at http://  www.forta.com/, right column) to
> see examples of this in action ...

Heh, you're going to be at CFUN as well, aren't you?

Hatton

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Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Don
Thanks.

>Chunshen,
>
>On 5/20/2004 at 13:41, you wrote:
>
>CL> any time frame for next cf release
>
>2005 was as specific as they'd get...and fairly noncommittal at that.
>But I don't think it will be concurrent with Longhorn's release ;)
>
>~ Ubqtous ~
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RE: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Ben Forta
I believe they said "early 2005", not just "2005". That's a bit better,
isn't it? ;-)

 
--- Ben

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From: Chunshen (Don) Li [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 2:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

Thanks.

>Chunshen,
>
>On 5/20/2004 at 13:41, you wrote:
>
>CL> any time frame for next cf release
>
>2005 was as specific as they'd get...and fairly noncommittal at that.
>But I don't think it will be concurrent with Longhorn's release ;)
>
>~ Ubqtous ~ 
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Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Ubqtous
Ben,

On 5/20/2004 at 14:17, you wrote:

BF> I believe they said "early 2005", not just "2005". That's a bit better,
BF> isn't it? ;-)

After seeing CFFORM and CFDOCUMENT in action, even early 2005 is too
long to wait!

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RE: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Alexander Sherwood
At 02:17 PM 5/20/2004, you wrote:

RedSky beta lasted 6-8 months, I think. If the beta starts soon (if not already), then EOY 2004, Early 2005 looks correct.

Any tidbits on the new "event-based" programming features?

I also heard that MM is adding a  tag to do fusebox stuff because its the best framework.

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True.

>I believe they said "early 2005", not just "2005". That's a bit better,
>isn't it? ;-)
>
>
>--- Ben
>
>  _  
>
>From: Chunshen (Don) Li [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 2:13 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.
>
>Thanks.
>
>>Chunshen,
>>
>>On 5/20/2004 at 13:41, you wrote:
>>
>>CL> any time frame for next cf release
>>
>>2005 was as specific as they'd get...and fairly noncommittal at that.
>>But I don't think it will be concurrent with Longhorn's release ;)
>>
>>~ Ubqtous ~ 
>  _
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Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-20 Thread Nathan Strutz
Alexander Sherwood wrote:

> I also heard that MM is adding a  tag to do fusebox stuff 
> because its the best framework.

I heard it'll shoot lasers at .net servers but you can't feed it after 
midnight.

hmm. i think we're getting off topic now.

-nathan strutz
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Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-21 Thread Cutter (CF-Talk)
This is a bit unfair to those of us who live in remote enough locations 
that there are no close MMUGs and our seasonal work environments don't 
allow much travel during this time of year...

Cutter

Ben Forta wrote:
> No, that was not specifically mentioned. I can't comment on this feature
> specifically, but I do plan on discussing this on tour stops.
> 
> 
> --- Ben
> 
>   _  
> 
> From: Chunshen (Don) Li [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 12:37 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.
> 
>  >I didn't sign an NDA ;)
>  >
>  >If NYCFUG was in on the MM Breeze presentation, it was basically a
>  >high level overview of MM's plans for the rest of the year and into
>  >next.
>  >
>  >Some teaser demos of BlackStone, including very nifty CFFORM & FLASH
>  >integration. Also CFDOCUMENT TYPE="PDF" (or something to that effect).
>  >~ Ubqtous ~
> 
> I missed it last night.  Talking about BlackStone, anything about code
> protection?
>   _
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RE: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-21 Thread Ben Forta
We're planning an online Breeze based sessions for user groups not visited,
but I don't have the details yet. I'll post them as soon as I do.

 
--- Ben

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From: Cutter (CF-Talk) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 7:50 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

This is a bit unfair to those of us who live in remote enough locations 
that there are no close MMUGs and our seasonal work environments don't 
allow much travel during this time of year...

Cutter

Ben Forta wrote:
> No, that was not specifically mentioned. I can't comment on this feature
> specifically, but I do plan on discussing this on tour stops.
> 
> 
> --- Ben
> 
>   _  
> 
> From: Chunshen (Don) Li [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 12:37 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.
> 
>  >I didn't sign an NDA ;)
>  >
>  >If NYCFUG was in on the MM Breeze presentation, it was basically a
>  >high level overview of MM's plans for the rest of the year and into
>  >next.
>  >
>  >Some teaser demos of BlackStone, including very nifty CFFORM & FLASH
>  >integration. Also CFDOCUMENT TYPE="PDF" (or something to that effect).
>  >~ Ubqtous ~
> 
> I missed it last night.  Talking about BlackStone, anything about code
> protection?
>   _
> 
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Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.

2004-05-21 Thread Don
Thanks, this is good to know.  If you've tried BD yourself probably you would have an idea about the following questions: 
*) Could BD co-exist with CFMX and/or preCFMX on a same win OS box for dev?
*) Does BD support both CFMX and preCFMX or only CFMX?
Of course, I'll look into more detail about BD via its own web site as well.  But these questions seems high level and it would be beneficial to know asap.

TIA.

>Not to put a damper on anything in the new version of CF, but Blue Dragon does
>offer very good code protection.  It seems as though the CFML templates can be
>precompiled and encrypted.
> 
>The templates are no longer human readable.  There is no way to return the
>COML. templates to there original COML. form.  They also state that they run
>faster since they are pre-complied??
> 
>It seems to be key based and the key is specific to your application and if
>some tries to run your app on another installation of Blue Dragon, it will
>fail since it does not have the key.
> 
>Seems like this is a pretty cool feature.
> 
>Mario
>-Original Message-
>From: Chunshen Li [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 12:37 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: SOT - Last nights NYCFUG meeting.
>
>
>
>I missed it last night.  Talking about BlackStone, anything about code
>protection? 
>  _
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