RE: Studio and PHP? (OT)
I don't want to start a PHP vs. CF war, so first I'll direct you to the documentation. CF: http://www.allaire.com/cfdocs/dochome.htm PHP: http://www.php.net/manual/en/ What follows are opinions, please don't take offence: I too would prefer to work in PHP, but the job market says otherwise (unless I wanted to take a huge paycut). It's more feature plentiful in areas such as; type casting, call by refference, call by value, better db cursor control, objects, user functions, tons more internal functions, etc. But because it's more feature plentiful, it suffers from higher development times: The very fact of having more granular control, means that you _have_ to control the small details. CFs tag based system (and not so hot cfscript) is much easier on the display side, where PHP leans more to the scripting and display becomes harder. Now the alternate control structure syntax in PHP can mimic the tag based idea to a point, but overall dev times are still higher. As always, it's pick the proper tool for the job. In no way am I banging CF, it's great for what it is... same can be said of PHP. (BTW if anyone doesn't know the alternate syntax and how you can sort of mimic the CF tag based display, feel free to email outside me outside the list or read the control structure section of the PHP manual. I find that using the alternate syntax speeds dev time incredibly, as you're not constantly dealing w/ printf ("vertias %s/n", $foobar): There is of course a caveat to it.) -Original Message- From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: January 19, 2001 14:56 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Studio and PHP? Could you please mention a few examples of how php is more powerful? jon - Original Message - From: "Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 10:16 AM Subject: Re: Studio and PHP? > > There is a whole lot of support for PHP in the form of mailing lists, > websites, books (of which there is more than one... closer to three or > four) It is for a whole lot more than accessing databases, and while this > may likely get me flamed, it a lot more powerful in functionality than CF > is. But it's a lot more strict than CF is as well in it's syntax and code > placement. I prefer working in PHP, but alas, there's not a lot of jobs > out there for PHP developers. At least not yet [snip] ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Studio and PHP?
CF Studio, with the new versions, already has builtin PHP source code highlighting support. Doesn't have debugging support but good enough. Xing > > > > > > A friend tells me that Allaire's Studio might be supporting PHP in the > > > future - is this true, or complete rubbish? > > > > > > Will > > > -- > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=- www.lukrative.com > > > Classifieds -=- www.localbounty.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Studio and PHP?
At 08:16 1/19/01 -0700, you wrote: > >There is a whole lot of support for PHP in the form of mailing lists, >websites, books (of which there is more than one... closer to three or >four) A quick search of Amazon shows 20-30 PHP books available. There is a lot of support for PHP out there, there new version 4 is supposed to be a big improvement. They could still benifit from a great database interface such as Perl's DBI/DBD, which is great. Ryan ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Studio and PHP?
Could you please mention a few examples of how php is more powerful? jon - Original Message - From: "Joe Sheble aka Wizaerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 10:16 AM Subject: Re: Studio and PHP? > > There is a whole lot of support for PHP in the form of mailing lists, > websites, books (of which there is more than one... closer to three or > four) It is for a whole lot more than accessing databases, and while this > may likely get me flamed, it a lot more powerful in functionality than CF > is. But it's a lot more strict than CF is as well in it's syntax and code > placement. I prefer working in PHP, but alas, there's not a lot of jobs > out there for PHP developers. At least not yet > > > At 06:11 AM 1/19/01 -0800, you wrote: > >I asked a friend of mine last night at a CFUG meeting what the PHP was all > >about and he informed me it was like the earlier version of database > >handling, in the earlier stages of the CF development, IT was not CF, but > >a freeware program, that didn't have much support if any, all I know is > >it must be something of value, because Prima publishing has a book out on > >it, that was very informative, but there was a lot of talk of MYSQL, and > >Linux, throughout the whole book. > > > > > > > >"W Luke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > >003b01c08178$09ed7730$8d00a8c0@ekul">news:003b01c08178$09ed7730$8d00a8c0@ekul... > > > Hi, > > > > > > A friend tells me that Allaire's Studio might be supporting PHP in the > > > future - is this true, or complete rubbish? > > > > > > Will > > > -- > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=- www.lukrative.com > > > Classifieds -=- www.localbounty.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: OT: Studio and PHP?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Will, Actually, PHP does have support in Homesite/Studio.. you just have to download the extensions from here... http://www.wilk4.com/asp4hs/php4hs.htm HTH Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer MINDSEYE, Inc. 617.350.0339 617.350.8884 66172567 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Studio and PHP?
There is a whole lot of support for PHP in the form of mailing lists, websites, books (of which there is more than one... closer to three or four) It is for a whole lot more than accessing databases, and while this may likely get me flamed, it a lot more powerful in functionality than CF is. But it's a lot more strict than CF is as well in it's syntax and code placement. I prefer working in PHP, but alas, there's not a lot of jobs out there for PHP developers. At least not yet At 06:11 AM 1/19/01 -0800, you wrote: >I asked a friend of mine last night at a CFUG meeting what the PHP was all >about and he informed me it was like the earlier version of database >handling, in the earlier stages of the CF development, IT was not CF, but >a freeware program, that didn't have much support if any, all I know is >it must be something of value, because Prima publishing has a book out on >it, that was very informative, but there was a lot of talk of MYSQL, and >Linux, throughout the whole book. > > > >"W Luke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >003b01c08178$09ed7730$8d00a8c0@ekul">news:003b01c08178$09ed7730$8d00a8c0@ekul... > > Hi, > > > > A friend tells me that Allaire's Studio might be supporting PHP in the > > future - is this true, or complete rubbish? > > > > Will > > -- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=- www.lukrative.com > > Classifieds -=- www.localbounty.com > > > > > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Studio and PHP?
CF Studio 4.5 supports PHP syntax highlighting. I've used it to write PHP code and haven't seen any missing functions/language constructs. You could probably use CF projects with .php files as well, with source control and the other nice features. Seva Petrov Senior Developer TheSquare.com T 212.634.6199 x205 F 212.634.6999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.TheSquare.com The Power of Your Network. Squared. > -Original Message- > From: W Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 12:57 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: OT: Studio and PHP? > > > Hi, > > A friend tells me that Allaire's Studio might be supporting PHP in the > future - is this true, or complete rubbish? > > Will > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=- www.lukrative.com > Classifieds -=- www.localbounty.com > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Studio and PHP?
O !!! I asked a friend of mine last night at a CFUG meeting what the PHP was all about and he informed me it was like the earlier version of database handling, in the earlier stages of the CF development, IT was not CF, but a freeware program, that didn't have much support if any, I see all the hackles standing straight up right now!!! Watch out! LOL Dave = "What we need is a list of specific unknown problems we will encounter" David Hannum Web Analyst/Programmer Ohio University [EMAIL PROTECTED] (740) 597-2524 - Original Message - From: "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 9:11 AM Subject: Re: Studio and PHP? I asked a friend of mine last night at a CFUG meeting what the PHP was all about and he informed me it was like the earlier version of database handling, in the earlier stages of the CF development, IT was not CF, but a freeware program, that didn't have much support if any, all I know is it must be something of value, because Prima publishing has a book out on it, that was very informative, but there was a lot of talk of MYSQL, and Linux, throughout the whole book. "W Luke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 003b01c08178$09ed7730$8d00a8c0@ekul">news:003b01c08178$09ed7730$8d00a8c0@ekul... > Hi, > > A friend tells me that Allaire's Studio might be supporting PHP in the > future - is this true, or complete rubbish? > > Will > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=- www.lukrative.com > Classifieds -=- www.localbounty.com > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Studio and PHP?
You want killer internal PHP help support in studio? - The PHP website (http://www.php.net) supports function look-ups using a simple url get line - Studio supports internal scripting using it's object model The result should be obvious :). It's easy to add F1 support alá CF tags for PHP functions and keywords. Also you should download the HTML version of the PHP language reference and throw it into your Studio docs dir: A little bit of parsing/renaming based on the manual.html and you can quickly make it into a nicer heading style. If you like toolbars (I find moving the mouse always takes to long, so don't use them) there might be some out there for standard functions. Add in the colour coding for PHP (mentioned below), and all the other functions in Studio that make it an uber text editor and PHP support is almost as good as native CF support. Even though I work in a *nix environ, I run win4lin for Studio b/c it's such a great scripting tool (db viewer, etc. which for any interested work fine as you just setup DSNs on the local machine [emulation] for all your datasources in *nix) for web based stuff. -Original Message- From: DeVoil, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: January 19, 2001 04:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Studio and PHP? > A friend tells me that Allaire's Studio might be supporting > PHP in the future - is this true, or complete rubbish? It already does, as far as colour coding is concerned. I use Studio for *everything* - PHP, Perl, JavaScript, JSP, even VBScript. Nick ** Information in this email is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee only. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your system. You should not otherwise copy it, retransmit it or use or disclose its contents to anyone. Thank you for your co-operation. ** ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Studio and PHP?
Actually, PHP is already supported in Studio, open a file with a PHP extension and all the correct color and syntax coding will be used. (Go to Options, Settings, Editor, Color Coding to see all the schemes that come with the product). There are no menus or toolbars for PHP yet (as there are for ASP and JSP) but you could easily add this yourself. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 9:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Studio and PHP? I asked a friend of mine last night at a CFUG meeting what the PHP was all about and he informed me it was like the earlier version of database handling, in the earlier stages of the CF development, IT was not CF, but a freeware program, that didn't have much support if any, all I know is it must be something of value, because Prima publishing has a book out on it, that was very informative, but there was a lot of talk of MYSQL, and Linux, throughout the whole book. "W Luke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 003b01c08178$09ed7730$8d00a8c0@ekul">news:003b01c08178$09ed7730$8d00a8c0@ekul... > Hi, > > A friend tells me that Allaire's Studio might be supporting PHP in the > future - is this true, or complete rubbish? > > Will > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=- www.lukrative.com > Classifieds -=- www.localbounty.com > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: OT: Studio and PHP?
I guess it depends on your definition of support. I use PHP all the time in Studio. It doesn't have template expansion, but it does recogize PHP keywords in the syntax color hilighting. At 05:56 PM 1/18/01 +, you wrote: >Hi, > >A friend tells me that Allaire's Studio might be supporting PHP in the >future - is this true, or complete rubbish? > >Will >-- >[EMAIL PROTECTED] -=- www.lukrative.com >Classifieds -=- www.localbounty.com > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Studio and PHP?
I asked a friend of mine last night at a CFUG meeting what the PHP was all about and he informed me it was like the earlier version of database handling, in the earlier stages of the CF development, IT was not CF, but a freeware program, that didn't have much support if any, all I know is it must be something of value, because Prima publishing has a book out on it, that was very informative, but there was a lot of talk of MYSQL, and Linux, throughout the whole book. "W Luke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 003b01c08178$09ed7730$8d00a8c0@ekul">news:003b01c08178$09ed7730$8d00a8c0@ekul... > Hi, > > A friend tells me that Allaire's Studio might be supporting PHP in the > future - is this true, or complete rubbish? > > Will > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=- www.lukrative.com > Classifieds -=- www.localbounty.com > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Studio and PHP?
> A friend tells me that Allaire's Studio might be supporting PHP in the > future - is this true, or complete rubbish? Erm, Studio is a text editor, therefore any language written is text will be usable in it... You could write C++ code in it if you want, it doesn't care less... Philip Arnold Director Certified ColdFusion Developer ASP Multimedia Limited T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133 "Websites for the real world" ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. ** ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Studio and PHP?
> A friend tells me that Allaire's Studio might be supporting > PHP in the future - is this true, or complete rubbish? It already does, as far as colour coding is concerned. I use Studio for *everything* - PHP, Perl, JavaScript, JSP, even VBScript. Nick ** Information in this email is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee only. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your system. You should not otherwise copy it, retransmit it or use or disclose its contents to anyone. Thank you for your co-operation. ** ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
OT: Studio and PHP?
Hi, A friend tells me that Allaire's Studio might be supporting PHP in the future - is this true, or complete rubbish? Will -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=- www.lukrative.com Classifieds -=- www.localbounty.com ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists