Re: SOT: Subversion Revisions
On 6/21/07, Cutter (CFRelated) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, quick OT. Moving to using Subversion in our dev environment (yeah!), but hitting a few stumbling blocks. I can 'export' a clean version of my 'HEAD', or any revision. But, I have a massive (3,000+ template) code base. Not every 'commit' to the system is tagged, or part of a branch. I reread your post and noticed this -- not sure what you mean about not every commit is tagged... tags are generally used to bundle up a bunch of changes to move it to qa/integration/uat/whatever. it's a snapshot of the repository status at a particular time you've pasted a label onto. So as you're working in trunk, you decide this is it, use svn copy to tag it as REL-1.0 and now you've got a reliable point to pull the release from, even while development is continuing in trunk. And as far as branches -- there shouldn't be all that many branches. Folks using SVN typically use branches for feature changes, releases, or in some cases individual developers. The most basic scenario is that everyone's working in trunk, you get to a point where it's ready to move to QA or production or whatever, you tag it, and then you use that tag for deploying. 3000 templates at @ 10kb each (generously large for CF imho) is still not all that much to deploy... 30mb uploads are quite feasible across a DSL modem let alone T1. I routinely deploy an 8gb application (mostly media content) using export from svn across a T1 line (unless it's an emergency - - then we push just the cf templates (assuming a cf prob) or run a USB drive the 30m out to the colo). How (or is it even possible) do I pull ONLY the modified files from the repository? I have SvnAnt installed within Eclipse, to utilize Ant with Subversion for creating builds and deployments, but I'm still struggling to get my head around all of this. You *could* create a patchfile, which contains all of the differences between two versions of something in the repository (eg a file, directory, or entire tree) and then apply the patchfile directly to your previous application to update it -- but that's a pretty unusual approach to build management that will probably bite you in the end. My general experience is that exports are the best way to go, though in some cases using svn checkouts on the *integration* server to manage the initial build works fine. Even in that case, the QA/UAT and definitely production builds are typically full exports. -- Steve Cutter Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281898 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
SOT: Subversion Revisions
OK, quick OT. Moving to using Subversion in our dev environment (yeah!), but hitting a few stumbling blocks. I can 'export' a clean version of my 'HEAD', or any revision. But, I have a massive (3,000+ template) code base. Not every 'commit' to the system is tagged, or part of a branch. How (or is it even possible) do I pull ONLY the modified files from the repository? I have SvnAnt installed within Eclipse, to utilize Ant with Subversion for creating builds and deployments, but I'm still struggling to get my head around all of this. -- Steve Cutter Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281794 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Subversion Revisions
This is why we don't export, but check out a working copy for the production environment. This way only modified file are pulled down when you do an update. The only downside is that the code will take up roughly twice the space. You also got to make sure that .svn folders are protected. Apache does it by default, I believe, not sure about IIS. Russ -Original Message- From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 11:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: SOT: Subversion Revisions OK, quick OT. Moving to using Subversion in our dev environment (yeah!), but hitting a few stumbling blocks. I can 'export' a clean version of my 'HEAD', or any revision. But, I have a massive (3,000+ template) code base. Not every 'commit' to the system is tagged, or part of a branch. How (or is it even possible) do I pull ONLY the modified files from the repository? I have SvnAnt installed within Eclipse, to utilize Ant with Subversion for creating builds and deployments, but I'm still struggling to get my head around all of this. -- Steve Cutter Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281801 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SOT: Subversion Revisions
Presumably you mean for deployment purposes? What we do is keep a working copy checked out on our dev and qa servers, and our Ant deployment script simply does an update on the working copy when we are ready to deploy. The only downside is that you have all of the .svn directories around. For our dev and qa environments, this is no biggie, but it's not what we want for production. In our case, we just do a full export for production, since even though we have a similarly large codebase, our qa and production servers are in the same datacenter, and the export is very very fast. Also, look into the Ant sync task, which will copy/add/delete only changed files (again from a working copy you have already updated), and you can use a file or directory filter to exclude the .svn directories. My only trouble with this method is it's incredibly slow over a mapped drive. This on Windows mind you, and it's Window's fault, not Ant's. This probably works quite dandy on Linux over NFS. On 6/21/07, Cutter (CFRelated) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, quick OT. Moving to using Subversion in our dev environment (yeah!), but hitting a few stumbling blocks. I can 'export' a clean version of my 'HEAD', or any revision. But, I have a massive (3,000+ template) code base. Not every 'commit' to the system is tagged, or part of a branch. How (or is it even possible) do I pull ONLY the modified files from the repository? I have SvnAnt installed within Eclipse, to utilize Ant with Subversion for creating builds and deployments, but I'm still struggling to get my head around all of this. -- Steve Cutter Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com ~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281811 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Subversion Revisions
One can set up a post-commit hook as well... check out The Book, for examples of stuff. Wouldn't be trivial, but I think that's how you'd do it, if you weren't using a working copy of some sort. :D On 6/21/07, Russ wrote: This is why we don't export, but check out a working copy for the production environment. This way only modified file are pulled down when you do an update. The only downside is that the code will take up roughly twice the space. You also got to make sure that .svn folders are protected. Apache does it by default, I believe, not sure about IIS. Russ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281829 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: SOT: Subversion Revisions
On 6/21/07, Doug Bezona wrote: The only downside is that you have all of the .svn directories around. For our dev and qa environments, this is no biggie, but it's not what we want for production. In our case, we just do a full export for production, since even though we have a similarly large codebase, our qa and production servers are in the same datacenter, and the export is very very fast. Rsync is also a great option. Only copies what's changed, and you can tell it to exclude certain directories, etc. (like .svn). Can work over ssh, etc.. There are ports for windows too. ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281831 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Subversion Revisions
We check out a working copy to our integration server, then use a file comparison/copy tool to go from there to production. For incremental releases, this means we just do a svn update to the integration server - no need for a full checkout each time. Ant or even xcopy can do the upload to production, but we use a gui tool called directory toolkit (we have mapped drive access to the production server). By default directory toolkit ignores hidden files, so the .svn files aren't a problem. Jaime Metcher -Original Message- From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 22 June 2007 1:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: SOT: Subversion Revisions OK, quick OT. Moving to using Subversion in our dev environment (yeah!), but hitting a few stumbling blocks. I can 'export' a clean version of my 'HEAD', or any revision. But, I have a massive (3,000+ template) code base. Not every 'commit' to the system is tagged, or part of a branch. How (or is it even possible) do I pull ONLY the modified files from the repository? I have SvnAnt installed within Eclipse, to utilize Ant with Subversion for creating builds and deployments, but I'm still struggling to get my head around all of this. -- Steve Cutter Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer _ http://blog.cutterscrossing.com ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales marketing dashboard RIAâs for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:281850 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
