cfroot? (was: Where do CFC's go?

2002-11-04 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Wednesday, Oct 30, 2002, at 09:01 US/Pacific, Tyler Silcox wrote:
> Is there a way to find the root of the ColdFusion server?

I don't know, off the top of my head. It seems like there ought to be...

> We use Fusebox, so we designate all non-Circuit folders
> as a resource folder and prefix with a "_".  Usually we have _images,
> _customtags, _pdfs, etc.  It'd be great if I could somehow reference 
> the CF
> root with a variable, because I could then I could write a UDF to call 
> my
> cfcs as "#cfroot#.mydomin._cfcs.somecfc" but I can't quite figure out 
> how to
> do that.  It really would help for portability and reuse, any 
> suggestions

Without knowing a bit more about how your hosting setup is organized, 
it's difficult to say. If #cfroot#/mydomain is already set up as a 
custom tag path by your hosting provider, you should be able to 
reference your CFC like this:



If #cfroot#/mydomain is your webroot already then the same code ought 
to work (since CFCs are searched for locally, then webroot, then custom 
tag paths I believe).

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Re: Where do CFC's go?

2002-11-04 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Wednesday, Oct 30, 2002, at 07:24 US/Pacific, Troy Simpson wrote:
> Thanks for describing your layout.  It has been very helpful in 
> providing me with ideas.

Good.

> How do (would) you outline the directory structure for multiple 
> websites that are hosted on one system.

Unfortunately, I can't answer that one. It's a problem that my team 
will eventually have to tackle since we currently have a variety of 
physically separate systems with different domains and we want to 
coalesce them all into one cluster of servers but right now, I don't 
know how we're going to do that.

I suspect we'll end up doing something fancy with Apache and/or mapping 
to different instances of CFMX for J2EE running on JRun 4 servers.

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Re: Where do CFC's go?

2002-10-31 Thread Troy Simpson
Sorry, but I'm not sure if I know the answer to that question.
But I think I'll take a stab at an answer.

Could you have your hosting service create a mapping for your coldfusion/web root?

For example, a mapping in CF Admin might be
Logical Path:  /yourdomainname
Directory Path:  /the/physical/Path/to/your/coldfusion-web-root

Logical Path: /www-yahoo-com
Directory Path: /websites/www-yahoo-com/wwwroot

I don't know how ColdFusion might react with period in the Logical Path, so I used 
dashes instead.

Do you think this might work for you?
Let me know.

Troy

Tyler Silcox wrote:

> Here's a side question for you, that I've tried posting before ;-):
>
> Is there a way to find the root of the ColdFusion server?
>
> The majority of our sites are hosted on someone else's box, so we don't
> always have access to the CFAdministrator.  We can usually request some
> mappings, but it always made more sense for me to add a resources folder to
> our website root.  We use Fusebox, so we designate all non-Circuit folders
> as a resource folder and prefix with a "_".  Usually we have _images,
> _customtags, _pdfs, etc.  It'd be great if I could somehow reference the CF
> root with a variable, because I could then I could write a UDF to call my
> cfcs as "#cfroot#.mydomin._cfcs.somecfc" but I can't quite figure out how to
> do that.  It really would help for portability and reuse, any suggestions
>
> Tyler Silcox
> email | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Troy Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:24 AM
> Subject: Re: Where do CFC's go?
>
> Thanks for describing your layout.  It has been very helpful in providing me
> with ideas.
> How do (would) you outline the directory structure for multiple websites
> that are hosted on one system.
>
> For example:
> admin.domain.com
> app1.domain.com
> app2.domain.com
> app3.domain.com
> .
>
> It appears that ColdFusion was design with the aspect of supporting only one
> website instead of many.
> This is evident in the ColdFusion Administrator, Server Mappings page.
> For example, I'm only allowed to provide one root Mapping for "/" and the
> mapping must be unique.
>
> I do understand why though.
> Anyone have any ideas how to work around this?
>
> Thanks,
> Troy
>
> Sean A Corfield wrote:
>
> > On Friday, Oct 25, 2002, at 16:30 US/Pacific, Troy Simpson wrote:
> > > I'm using Dreamweaver MX to create some CFC's and trying to figure out
> > > how to layout the file system on the ColdFusionMX App server.
> > > (FYI:  I'm new at this CFC stuff and Dreamweaver too.)
> > > Where am I suppose to copy the CFC's too?
> > > I've read various things.
> > > Some put them under the wwwroot.
> > > Others put them outside the wwwroot and create a mapping.
> >
> > If you want to invoke them as Web Services or via Flash Remoting, you
> > need to make your CFCs web-accessible. Otherwise, you can put them
> > wherever you want.
> >
> > Here's what my team does (partial credit to Mike Nimer for the seed of
> > this):
> >
> > {cfmx}/
> > extensions/
> > components/
> > {appname}/
> > {file}.cfc
> > customtags/
> > {appname}/
> > {file}.cfm
> > includes/
> > {appname}/
> > {file}.cfm
> > wwwroot/
> > {appname}/
> > {file}.cfm
> >
> > Where {cfmx} is the install directory, {appname} is an application name
> > (e.g., store, membership) and {file} is any filename.
> >
> > Then we add these to the custom tag / components path in the CF Admin:
> > {cfmx}/extensions/components/
> > {cfmx}/extensions/customtags/
> >
> > And we add a mapping for the includes:
> > /cfinclude  {cfmx}/extensions/includes/
> >
> > Typically, each application has an Application.cfm under
> > wwwroot/{appname}/ which also cfinclude's /Application.cfm which
> > contains our 'global' stuff.
> >
> > This is all part of our coding guidelines - but I can&

Re: Where do CFC's go?

2002-10-30 Thread Tyler Silcox
Here's a side question for you, that I've tried posting before ;-):

Is there a way to find the root of the ColdFusion server?

The majority of our sites are hosted on someone else's box, so we don't
always have access to the CFAdministrator.  We can usually request some
mappings, but it always made more sense for me to add a resources folder to
our website root.  We use Fusebox, so we designate all non-Circuit folders
as a resource folder and prefix with a "_".  Usually we have _images,
_customtags, _pdfs, etc.  It'd be great if I could somehow reference the CF
root with a variable, because I could then I could write a UDF to call my
cfcs as "#cfroot#.mydomin._cfcs.somecfc" but I can't quite figure out how to
do that.  It really would help for portability and reuse, any suggestions

Tyler Silcox
email | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: "Troy Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: Where do CFC's go?


Thanks for describing your layout.  It has been very helpful in providing me
with ideas.
How do (would) you outline the directory structure for multiple websites
that are hosted on one system.

For example:
admin.domain.com
app1.domain.com
app2.domain.com
app3.domain.com
.

It appears that ColdFusion was design with the aspect of supporting only one
website instead of many.
This is evident in the ColdFusion Administrator, Server Mappings page.
For example, I'm only allowed to provide one root Mapping for "/" and the
mapping must be unique.

I do understand why though.
Anyone have any ideas how to work around this?

Thanks,
Troy

Sean A Corfield wrote:

> On Friday, Oct 25, 2002, at 16:30 US/Pacific, Troy Simpson wrote:
> > I'm using Dreamweaver MX to create some CFC's and trying to figure out
> > how to layout the file system on the ColdFusionMX App server.
> > (FYI:  I'm new at this CFC stuff and Dreamweaver too.)
> > Where am I suppose to copy the CFC's too?
> > I've read various things.
> > Some put them under the wwwroot.
> > Others put them outside the wwwroot and create a mapping.
>
> If you want to invoke them as Web Services or via Flash Remoting, you
> need to make your CFCs web-accessible. Otherwise, you can put them
> wherever you want.
>
> Here's what my team does (partial credit to Mike Nimer for the seed of
> this):
>
> {cfmx}/
> extensions/
> components/
> {appname}/
> {file}.cfc
> customtags/
> {appname}/
> {file}.cfm
> includes/
> {appname}/
> {file}.cfm
> wwwroot/
> {appname}/
> {file}.cfm
>
> Where {cfmx} is the install directory, {appname} is an application name
> (e.g., store, membership) and {file} is any filename.
>
> Then we add these to the custom tag / components path in the CF Admin:
> {cfmx}/extensions/components/
> {cfmx}/extensions/customtags/
>
> And we add a mapping for the includes:
> /cfinclude  {cfmx}/extensions/includes/
>
> Typically, each application has an Application.cfm under
> wwwroot/{appname}/ which also cfinclude's /Application.cfm which
> contains our 'global' stuff.
>
> This is all part of our coding guidelines - but I can't remember
> whether I left this in the public domain version:
> http://www.corfield.org/coldfusion/codingStandards.htm
>
> I can't answer your RDS question I'm afraid!
>
> Sean A Corfield -- Director, Architecture
> Web Technology Group -- Macromedia, Inc.
> tel: (415) 252-2287 -- cell: (415) 717-8473
> fax: (415) 865-3113 -- http://www.macromedia.com
> An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
>
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> Architecting a New Internet Experience
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Re: Where do CFC's go?

2002-10-30 Thread Troy Simpson
Thanks for describing your layout.  It has been very helpful in providing me with 
ideas.
How do (would) you outline the directory structure for multiple websites that are 
hosted on one system.

For example:
admin.domain.com
app1.domain.com
app2.domain.com
app3.domain.com
..

It appears that ColdFusion was design with the aspect of supporting only one website 
instead of many.
This is evident in the ColdFusion Administrator, Server Mappings page.
For example, I'm only allowed to provide one root Mapping for "/" and the mapping must 
be unique.

I do understand why though.
Anyone have any ideas how to work around this?

Thanks,
Troy

Sean A Corfield wrote:

> On Friday, Oct 25, 2002, at 16:30 US/Pacific, Troy Simpson wrote:
> > I'm using Dreamweaver MX to create some CFC's and trying to figure out
> > how to layout the file system on the ColdFusionMX App server.
> > (FYI:  I'm new at this CFC stuff and Dreamweaver too.)
> > Where am I suppose to copy the CFC's too?
> > I've read various things.
> > Some put them under the wwwroot.
> > Others put them outside the wwwroot and create a mapping.
>
> If you want to invoke them as Web Services or via Flash Remoting, you
> need to make your CFCs web-accessible. Otherwise, you can put them
> wherever you want.
>
> Here's what my team does (partial credit to Mike Nimer for the seed of
> this):
>
> {cfmx}/
> extensions/
> components/
> {appname}/
> {file}.cfc
> customtags/
> {appname}/
> {file}.cfm
> includes/
> {appname}/
> {file}.cfm
> wwwroot/
> {appname}/
> {file}.cfm
>
> Where {cfmx} is the install directory, {appname} is an application name
> (e.g., store, membership) and {file} is any filename.
>
> Then we add these to the custom tag / components path in the CF Admin:
> {cfmx}/extensions/components/
> {cfmx}/extensions/customtags/
>
> And we add a mapping for the includes:
> /cfinclude  {cfmx}/extensions/includes/
>
> Typically, each application has an Application.cfm under
> wwwroot/{appname}/ which also cfinclude's /Application.cfm which
> contains our 'global' stuff.
>
> This is all part of our coding guidelines - but I can't remember
> whether I left this in the public domain version:
> http://www.corfield.org/coldfusion/codingStandards.htm
>
> I can't answer your RDS question I'm afraid!
>
> Sean A Corfield -- Director, Architecture
> Web Technology Group -- Macromedia, Inc.
> tel: (415) 252-2287 -- cell: (415) 717-8473
> fax: (415) 865-3113 -- http://www.macromedia.com
> An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
>
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> Architecting a New Internet Experience
> Register today at http://www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002
>
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Re: Where do CFC's go?

2002-10-25 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Friday, Oct 25, 2002, at 17:24 US/Pacific, Troy Simpson wrote:
> Is {cfmx} the default install path.

Yes.

> So in my case, for Sun Solaris8 it would be /opt/coldfusionmx ?

Yup. On my laptop it's /home/coldfusionmx, on our Solaris boxes it's 
/data/www/appserver/cfusionmx (or something like that).

> Sean A Corfield wrote:
>
>> On Friday, Oct 25, 2002, at 16:30 US/Pacific, Troy Simpson wrote:
>>> I'm using Dreamweaver MX to create some CFC's and trying to figure 
>>> out
>>> how to layout the file system on the ColdFusionMX App server.
>>> (FYI:  I'm new at this CFC stuff and Dreamweaver too.)
>>> Where am I suppose to copy the CFC's too?
>>> I've read various things.
>>> Some put them under the wwwroot.
>>> Others put them outside the wwwroot and create a mapping.
>>
>> If you want to invoke them as Web Services or via Flash Remoting, you
>> need to make your CFCs web-accessible. Otherwise, you can put them
>> wherever you want.
>>
>> Here's what my team does (partial credit to Mike Nimer for the seed of
>> this):
>>
>> {cfmx}/
>> extensions/
>> components/
>> {appname}/
>> {file}.cfc
>> customtags/
>> {appname}/
>> {file}.cfm
>> includes/
>> {appname}/
>> {file}.cfm
>> wwwroot/
>> {appname}/
>> {file}.cfm
>>
>> Where {cfmx} is the install directory, {appname} is an application 
>> name
>> (e.g., store, membership) and {file} is any filename.
>>
>> Then we add these to the custom tag / components path in the CF Admin:
>> {cfmx}/extensions/components/
>> {cfmx}/extensions/customtags/
>>
>> And we add a mapping for the includes:
>> /cfinclude  {cfmx}/extensions/includes/
>>
>> Typically, each application has an Application.cfm under
>> wwwroot/{appname}/ which also cfinclude's /Application.cfm which
>> contains our 'global' stuff.
>>
>> This is all part of our coding guidelines - but I can't remember
>> whether I left this in the public domain version:
>> http://www.corfield.org/coldfusion/codingStandards.htm
>>
>> I can't answer your RDS question I'm afraid!

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Re: Where do CFC's go?

2002-10-25 Thread Troy Simpson
Is {cfmx} the default install path.
So in my case, for Sun Solaris8 it would be /opt/coldfusionmx ?

Thanks,
Troy

Sean A Corfield wrote:

> On Friday, Oct 25, 2002, at 16:30 US/Pacific, Troy Simpson wrote:
> > I'm using Dreamweaver MX to create some CFC's and trying to figure out
> > how to layout the file system on the ColdFusionMX App server.
> > (FYI:  I'm new at this CFC stuff and Dreamweaver too.)
> > Where am I suppose to copy the CFC's too?
> > I've read various things.
> > Some put them under the wwwroot.
> > Others put them outside the wwwroot and create a mapping.
>
> If you want to invoke them as Web Services or via Flash Remoting, you
> need to make your CFCs web-accessible. Otherwise, you can put them
> wherever you want.
>
> Here's what my team does (partial credit to Mike Nimer for the seed of
> this):
>
> {cfmx}/
> extensions/
> components/
> {appname}/
> {file}.cfc
> customtags/
> {appname}/
> {file}.cfm
> includes/
> {appname}/
> {file}.cfm
> wwwroot/
> {appname}/
> {file}.cfm
>
> Where {cfmx} is the install directory, {appname} is an application name
> (e.g., store, membership) and {file} is any filename.
>
> Then we add these to the custom tag / components path in the CF Admin:
> {cfmx}/extensions/components/
> {cfmx}/extensions/customtags/
>
> And we add a mapping for the includes:
> /cfinclude  {cfmx}/extensions/includes/
>
> Typically, each application has an Application.cfm under
> wwwroot/{appname}/ which also cfinclude's /Application.cfm which
> contains our 'global' stuff.
>
> This is all part of our coding guidelines - but I can't remember
> whether I left this in the public domain version:
> http://www.corfield.org/coldfusion/codingStandards.htm
>
> I can't answer your RDS question I'm afraid!
>
> Sean A Corfield -- Director, Architecture
> Web Technology Group -- Macromedia, Inc.
> tel: (415) 252-2287 -- cell: (415) 717-8473
> fax: (415) 865-3113 -- http://www.macromedia.com
> An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
>
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Re: Where do CFC's go?

2002-10-25 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Friday, Oct 25, 2002, at 16:30 US/Pacific, Troy Simpson wrote:
> I'm using Dreamweaver MX to create some CFC's and trying to figure out
> how to layout the file system on the ColdFusionMX App server.
> (FYI:  I'm new at this CFC stuff and Dreamweaver too.)
> Where am I suppose to copy the CFC's too?
> I've read various things.
> Some put them under the wwwroot.
> Others put them outside the wwwroot and create a mapping.

If you want to invoke them as Web Services or via Flash Remoting, you 
need to make your CFCs web-accessible. Otherwise, you can put them 
wherever you want.

Here's what my team does (partial credit to Mike Nimer for the seed of 
this):

{cfmx}/
extensions/
components/
{appname}/
{file}.cfc
customtags/
{appname}/
{file}.cfm
includes/
{appname}/
{file}.cfm
wwwroot/
{appname}/
{file}.cfm

Where {cfmx} is the install directory, {appname} is an application name 
(e.g., store, membership) and {file} is any filename.

Then we add these to the custom tag / components path in the CF Admin:
{cfmx}/extensions/components/
{cfmx}/extensions/customtags/

And we add a mapping for the includes:
/cfinclude  {cfmx}/extensions/includes/

Typically, each application has an Application.cfm under 
wwwroot/{appname}/ which also cfinclude's /Application.cfm which 
contains our 'global' stuff.

This is all part of our coding guidelines - but I can't remember 
whether I left this in the public domain version:
http://www.corfield.org/coldfusion/codingStandards.htm

I can't answer your RDS question I'm afraid!

Sean A Corfield -- Director, Architecture
Web Technology Group -- Macromedia, Inc.
tel: (415) 252-2287 -- cell: (415) 717-8473
fax: (415) 865-3113 -- http://www.macromedia.com
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Re: Where do CFC's go?

2002-10-25 Thread Gyrus
- Original Message -
From: "Troy Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I'm using Dreamweaver MX to create some CFC's and trying to figure out
> how to layout the file system on the ColdFusionMX App server.
> (FYI:  I'm new at this CFC stuff and Dreamweaver too.)
> Where am I suppose to copy the CFC's too?
---

I've not yet used CFC's or Dreamweaver, so I'm not really qualified... But I
did notice some interesting ideas for structuring storage of app files in
Benoit Hediard's CFMX framework material:

http://www.benorama.com/coldfusion/index.htm

Specifically, here:

http://www.benorama.com/coldfusion/patterns/part8.htm

It does depend on his 'design pattern', but maybe of use to you.

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Where do CFC's go?

2002-10-25 Thread Troy Simpson
I'm using Dreamweaver MX to create some CFC's and trying to figure out
how to layout the file system on the ColdFusionMX App server.
(FYI:  I'm new at this CFC stuff and Dreamweaver too.)
Where am I suppose to copy the CFC's too?
I've read various things.
Some put them under the wwwroot.
Others put them outside the wwwroot and create a mapping.

I've done it like this:
/websites/www.domain.com/CustomTags/com/domain/
and this:
/websites/www.domain.com/wwwroot/com/domain/
and application CFC in various directories under wwwroot.

Is there a preferred method?
It would seem that by putting the CFC under wwwroot, this could make the
CF Server search the whole wwwroot directory for CFC.  This would seem
to be inefficient for the CF Server to have to go though all those
*.html, *.gif, *.etc files to pick out the CFC, right?

I'm also accessing the files via RDS in DWMX.
When I try to edit the CFC via the Component Tab in DWMX, I get a dialog
box that says:

"This panel only facilitates editing CFCs if the local path to this
site's files is the same as the path defined for the testing server for
this site.  Furthermore, the access to the testing server must be
local/network.  You can examine and change these path by using the
Define Sites item in the Site Menu.  The current settings are: Testing
Server access type: source_control"

I guess this means that I can not develop CFC remotely via RDS, right?
Auggg!  Can't I get anything right today?  ;-)

Thanks,
Troy

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