Re: Why can't I buy JUST CFStudio 5?

2001-10-29 Thread Earl, George

 I have a subscription and I haven't heard anything about a
 subscription upgrade.  Am I the only one?  Did I miss something?

My sales rep said they expect subscription updates to go out around the
second week of November . . .

George
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Re: Why can't I buy JUST CFStudio 5?

2001-10-28 Thread David Hannum \(Ohio University\)

I talked to MM Sales and they told me that subscriptions will be mailed out
before the boxed version is available on the shelf.

Dave


- Original Message -
From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: Why can't I buy JUST CFStudio 5?


 I have a subscription and I haven't heard anything about a subscription
 upgrade.  Am I the only one?  Did I miss something?

 -
 Matt Robertson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
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 - Original Message -
 From: Joshua Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 1:23 PM
 Subject: RE: Why can't I buy JUST CFStudio 5?


 Wow ... I looked all over that site and couldn't find anything. THANKS

 Joshua Miller
 Web Development::Programming
 Eagle Technologies Group, Inc.
 www.eagletgi.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 4:39 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Why can't I buy JUST CFStudio 5?


 At 5:55 AM 10/25/1, Joshua Miller wrote:
  Why is it that Macromedia insists on bundling CFStudio5
  and UltraDev 4 together? Why can't I buy just CFStudio5?

 Sure you can... check out the splash page:
 http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusionstudio/

 jd





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RE: Why can't I buy JUST CFStudio 5?

2001-10-27 Thread Joshua Miller

Wow ... I looked all over that site and couldn't find anything. THANKS

Joshua Miller
Web Development::Programming
Eagle Technologies Group, Inc.
www.eagletgi.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 4:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Why can't I buy JUST CFStudio 5?


At 5:55 AM 10/25/1, Joshua Miller wrote:
 Why is it that Macromedia insists on bundling CFStudio5
 and UltraDev 4 together? Why can't I buy just CFStudio5?

Sure you can... check out the splash page:
http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusionstudio/

jd





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Re: Why can't I buy JUST CFStudio 5?

2001-10-27 Thread Matt Robertson

I have a subscription and I haven't heard anything about a subscription
upgrade.  Am I the only one?  Did I miss something?

-
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MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
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- Original Message -
From: Joshua Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: Why can't I buy JUST CFStudio 5?


Wow ... I looked all over that site and couldn't find anything. THANKS

Joshua Miller
Web Development::Programming
Eagle Technologies Group, Inc.
www.eagletgi.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 4:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Why can't I buy JUST CFStudio 5?


At 5:55 AM 10/25/1, Joshua Miller wrote:
 Why is it that Macromedia insists on bundling CFStudio5
 and UltraDev 4 together? Why can't I buy just CFStudio5?

Sure you can... check out the splash page:
http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusionstudio/

jd





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Why can't I buy JUST CFStudio 5?

2001-10-25 Thread Joshua Miller

Why is it that Macromedia insists on bundling CFStudio5 and UltraDev 4
together? Why can't I buy just CFStudio5? I can get JRun Studio, I can buy
UltraDev without CFStudio, I can buy HomeSite but I can't buy just
CFStudio5. I already own UltraDev4 and I really don't want to pay extra to
have a second copy just to get CFStudio5 ... what's the logic behind this?

Also, quit making it sound like it's one product. It's not. It's 2 separate
applications, proabably on 2 different CDs that you have to install one at a
time. What's the deal with trying to make it sound like it's one product
that has all these new features? It's the same UltraDev4 that's been around
for over a year - only Studio is new. Selling bundles is nice, but why force
customers into buying a more expensive bundle when they already paid $300
for one half of it? UltraDev is nice, but I really don't need 2 copies at
$250-$300 each for one developer.

When you make them one product, then it will make sense, but now you're just
confusing people into thinking that they're getting some hybrid of the two
in one application - and they're not getting that at all.

Why the hassle Macromedia? Just sell CFStudio as a standalone product!

Joshua Miller
Web Development::Programming
Eagle Technologies Group, Inc.
www.eagletgi.com
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Re: Why can't I buy JUST CFStudio 5?

2001-10-25 Thread Todd Ashworth

http://dynamic.macromedia.com/bin/MM/store/US/product.jsp?category=/Software
/Development/StandAlones/ColdFusionStudiotype=FULL

Todd

- Original Message -
From: Joshua Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:55 AM
Subject: Why can't I buy JUST CFStudio 5?


 Why is it that Macromedia insists on bundling CFStudio5 and UltraDev 4
 together? Why can't I buy just CFStudio5? I can get JRun Studio, I can buy
 UltraDev without CFStudio, I can buy HomeSite but I can't buy just
 CFStudio5. I already own UltraDev4 and I really don't want to pay extra to
 have a second copy just to get CFStudio5 ... what's the logic behind this?

 Also, quit making it sound like it's one product. It's not. It's 2
separate
 applications, proabably on 2 different CDs that you have to install one at
a
 time. What's the deal with trying to make it sound like it's one product
 that has all these new features? It's the same UltraDev4 that's been
around
 for over a year - only Studio is new. Selling bundles is nice, but why
force
 customers into buying a more expensive bundle when they already paid $300
 for one half of it? UltraDev is nice, but I really don't need 2 copies at
 $250-$300 each for one developer.

 When you make them one product, then it will make sense, but now you're
just
 confusing people into thinking that they're getting some hybrid of the two
 in one application - and they're not getting that at all.

 Why the hassle Macromedia? Just sell CFStudio as a standalone product!

 Joshua Miller
 Web Development::Programming
 Eagle Technologies Group, Inc.
 www.eagletgi.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: Why can't I buy JUST CFStudio 5?

2001-10-25 Thread Jeffry Houser

  I assumed ( although do not know for a fact ) that the CF Studio 5 
Ultradev 4 was just a first out the door thing.  The product won't be 
available in a 'boxed' form until sometime in November.  I suspect that we 
will be getting a single CF Studio package sometime soon.

  People with CF Studio 5 subscriptions will be receiving their CF Studio 5 
upgrades, but not a free copy of Ultradev.

At 08:55 AM 10/25/2001 -0400, you wrote:
Why is it that Macromedia insists on bundling CFStudio5 and UltraDev 4
together? Why can't I buy just CFStudio5? I can get JRun Studio, I can buy
UltraDev without CFStudio, I can buy HomeSite but I can't buy just
CFStudio5. I already own UltraDev4 and I really don't want to pay extra to
have a second copy just to get CFStudio5 ... what's the logic behind this?

  The guess is that their long term plan is to merge the two into 
one.  Yes, all word from Macromedia has said that this is not the case, 
but... time will tell.  I spoke to a publisher about doing a CF Studio 
book.  They didn't seem to think that CF Studio had much of a future 
because Why waste resources on two different editors.


Also, quit making it sound like it's one product. It's not. It's 2 separate
applications, proabably on 2 different CDs that you have to install one at a
time.

  That is actually documented in the FAQ section of the product.  I'm 
pretty sure I saw it, at least.


When you make them one product, then it will make sense, but now you're just
confusing people into thinking that they're getting some hybrid of the two
in one application - and they're not getting that at all.

Why the hassle Macromedia? Just sell CFStudio as a standalone product!

  My guess ( I sort of stated before ) is that they are trying to blur the 
line between the two products, so when CF Studio goes away... it will cause 
less of a stir.




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Re: Why can't I buy JUST CFStudio 5?

2001-10-25 Thread Jeffry Houser

  Forget everything I said in my last email.  : ha, ha:  They don't make it 
obvious, though.

At 09:02 AM 10/25/2001 -0400, you wrote:
http://dynamic.macromedia.com/bin/MM/store/US/product.jsp?category=/Software
/Development/StandAlones/ColdFusionStudiotype=FULL

Todd

- Original Message -
From: Joshua Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:55 AM
Subject: Why can't I buy JUST CFStudio 5?


  Why is it that Macromedia insists on bundling CFStudio5 and UltraDev 4
  together? Why can't I buy just CFStudio5? I can get JRun Studio, I can buy
  UltraDev without CFStudio, I can buy HomeSite but I can't buy just
  CFStudio5. I already own UltraDev4 and I really don't want to pay extra to
  have a second copy just to get CFStudio5 ... what's the logic behind this?
 
  Also, quit making it sound like it's one product. It's not. It's 2
separate
  applications, proabably on 2 different CDs that you have to install one at
a
  time. What's the deal with trying to make it sound like it's one product
  that has all these new features? It's the same UltraDev4 that's been
around
  for over a year - only Studio is new. Selling bundles is nice, but why
force
  customers into buying a more expensive bundle when they already paid $300
  for one half of it? UltraDev is nice, but I really don't need 2 copies at
  $250-$300 each for one developer.
 
  When you make them one product, then it will make sense, but now you're
just
  confusing people into thinking that they're getting some hybrid of the two
  in one application - and they're not getting that at all.
 
  Why the hassle Macromedia? Just sell CFStudio as a standalone product!
 
  Joshua Miller
  Web Development::Programming
  Eagle Technologies Group, Inc.
  www.eagletgi.com
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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RE: Why can't I buy JUST CFStudio 5?

2001-10-25 Thread Mark Stewart

Not obvious at all. They're going to become another Microsoft, just wait
and see.

Mark



-Original Message-
From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Why can't I buy JUST CFStudio 5?


  Forget everything I said in my last email.  : ha, ha:  They don't make
it 
obvious, though.

At 09:02 AM 10/25/2001 -0400, you wrote:
http://dynamic.macromedia.com/bin/MM/store/US/product.jsp?category=/So
f
tware
/Development/StandAlones/ColdFusionStudiotype=FULL

Todd

- Original Message -
From: Joshua Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:55 AM
Subject: Why can't I buy JUST CFStudio 5?


  Why is it that Macromedia insists on bundling CFStudio5 and UltraDev
4
  together? Why can't I buy just CFStudio5? I can get JRun Studio, I
can buy
  UltraDev without CFStudio, I can buy HomeSite but I can't buy just
  CFStudio5. I already own UltraDev4 and I really don't want to pay
extra to
  have a second copy just to get CFStudio5 ... what's the logic behind
this?
 
  Also, quit making it sound like it's one product. It's not. It's 2
separate
  applications, proabably on 2 different CDs that you have to install
one at
a
  time. What's the deal with trying to make it sound like it's one
product
  that has all these new features? It's the same UltraDev4 that's been
around
  for over a year - only Studio is new. Selling bundles is nice, but
why
force
  customers into buying a more expensive bundle when they already paid
$300
  for one half of it? UltraDev is nice, but I really don't need 2
copies at
  $250-$300 each for one developer.
 
  When you make them one product, then it will make sense, but now
you're
just
  confusing people into thinking that they're getting some hybrid of
the two
  in one application - and they're not getting that at all.
 
  Why the hassle Macromedia? Just sell CFStudio as a standalone
product!
 
  Joshua Miller
  Web Development::Programming
  Eagle Technologies Group, Inc.
  www.eagletgi.com
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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Re: Why can't I buy JUST CFStudio 5?

2001-10-25 Thread Stephen Hait

According to Macromedia's website they are offering an 
UPGRADE to CF Studio 5 for $169 if you currently own 4.X. Only 
a downloadable version is currently available.

Stephen

 Why is it that Macromedia insists on bundling CFStudio5 and UltraDev
 4 together? Why can't I buy just CFStudio5? I can get JRun Studio, I

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Re: Why can't I buy JUST CFStudio 5?

2001-10-25 Thread John Dowdell

At 5:55 AM 10/25/1, Joshua Miller wrote:
 Why is it that Macromedia insists on bundling CFStudio5
 and UltraDev 4 together? Why can't I buy just CFStudio5?

Sure you can... check out the splash page:
http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusionstudio/

jd





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