RE: XML Parser for CF
Hi Rob, I ran some tests on CFX_XMLPARSER vs MSXML, and found that while the MSXML parser was only around twice as slow on average when run once, if you ran it 10/100/1000 times the MSXML parser started to get a factor of 10 to 100 times slower (sometimes taking nearly 2 seconds to parse a packet that could be parsed in around 20ms in CFX_XMLPARSER HTH Dan -Original Message- From: Rob Gilchrist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 September 2001 17:35 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: XML Parser for CF Hi Gary I have a site that is about to go live that uses the MSXML parser and I am a bit concerned by your statement that it buckles under load. Do you know what sort of load causes it to fail? and what are the effects when it does fail? Can your CFX_XMLPARSER convert CF Structures into XML? Thanks Rob -Original Message- From: Gary Kraeger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 September 2001 15:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: XML Parser for CF We have a free one at http://www.cfdev.com here is a description of it. CFX_XMLParser is a Fast Java CFX tag that takes an XML document and returns a ColdFusion structure containing the XML document. Our tests show this parser to be about 1000% faster than the MSXML Parser invoked through CFOBJECT. CFOBJECT based parsers also tend to buckle under load. Gary cfdev.com - Original Message - From: "Critter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 12:59 PM Subject: XML Parser for CF > Hello CF-Talk, > > anyone have any suggestions for a decent one? > > -- > Best regards, > > Critter, MMCP > Certified ColdFusion Developer > > Crit[s2k] - > ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: XML Parser for CF
This might be a good feature to add. CFWDDX doesn't convert into a user-defined XML packet; it converts it into a WDDX packet (which is an implementation of XML). I can think of many instances where you would want to be able to define the XML structure. (there's nothing to keep you from using the CFDev parser to pull, and MSXML to push, however) --- Billy Cravens Web Development, EDS [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Gary Kraeger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 1:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: XML Parser for CF Rob: Well we ran some tests using our XML parser and the MSXML parser. We found that the average parsing times differed by quite a bit when parsing the same XML file: 133.454545454545 (Ours) and 1140.68421052632 (MSXML). Min Times: ours: 93 msxml: 1109 Max Times: ours: 313 msxml: 1172 When you add concurrent requests into the mix the response times get very large, thus "buckling" under the load. Our XML parser does not convert CF structures into XML, it simply parses XML into coldfusion structures. CFWDDX will convert a structure into XML! Gary http://www.cfdev.com - Original Message - From: "Rob Gilchrist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 12:34 PM Subject: RE: XML Parser for CF > Hi Gary > I have a site that is about to go live that uses the MSXML parser and > I am a > bit concerned by your statement that it buckles under load. Do you > know what > sort of load causes it to fail? and what are the effects when it does fail? > > Can your CFX_XMLPARSER convert CF Structures into XML? > > Thanks > > Rob > > -Original Message- > From: Gary Kraeger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 20 September 2001 15:09 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: XML Parser for CF > > > We have a free one at http://www.cfdev.com here is a description of > it. > > CFX_XMLParser is a Fast Java CFX tag that takes an XML document and returns > a ColdFusion structure containing the XML document. Our tests show > this parser to be about 1000% faster than the MSXML Parser invoked > through CFOBJECT. CFOBJECT based parsers also tend to buckle under > load. > > Gary > cfdev.com > > > - Original Message - > From: "Critter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 12:59 PM > Subject: XML Parser for CF > > > > Hello CF-Talk, > > > > anyone have any suggestions for a decent one? > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > > > Critter, MMCP > > Certified ColdFusion Developer > > > > Crit[s2k] - > > > > ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: XML Parser for CF
Is this a Full DOM parser or just a SAX parsing. Using SAX would make a world of difference in your parsing speed. Do you really need the full DOM? I have done rather fast XML parsing using Java and SAX. YMMV, but its not that hard at all to write a CFX of your own getting the speed you need even using Xerces C++ if you must, which would probably be a bit faster than the Java version. Jeremy Allen elliptIQ Inc. -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software >-Original Message- >From: Gary Kraeger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 2:41 PM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: Re: XML Parser for CF > > >Rob: > >Well we ran some tests using our XML parser and the MSXML parser. We found >that the average parsing times differed by quite a bit when >parsing the same >XML file: 133.454545454545 (Ours) and 1140.68421052632 (MSXML). > >Min Times: > ours: 93 > msxml: 1109 > >Max Times: > ours: 313 > msxml: 1172 > >When you add concurrent requests into the mix the response times get very >large, thus "buckling" under the load. > >Our XML parser does not convert CF structures into XML, it simply >parses XML >into coldfusion structures. CFWDDX will convert a structure into XML! > >Gary >http://www.cfdev.com > >- Original Message - >From: "Rob Gilchrist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 12:34 PM >Subject: RE: XML Parser for CF > > >> Hi Gary >> I have a site that is about to go live that uses the MSXML >parser and I am >a >> bit concerned by your statement that it buckles under load. Do you know >what >> sort of load causes it to fail? and what are the effects when it does >fail? >> >> Can your CFX_XMLPARSER convert CF Structures into XML? >> >> Thanks >> >> Rob >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Gary Kraeger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: 20 September 2001 15:09 >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: Re: XML Parser for CF >> >> >> We have a free one at http://www.cfdev.com here is a description of it. >> >> CFX_XMLParser is a Fast Java CFX tag that takes an XML document and >returns >> a ColdFusion structure containing the XML document. Our tests show this >> parser to be about 1000% faster than the MSXML Parser invoked through >> CFOBJECT. CFOBJECT based parsers also tend to buckle under load. >> >> Gary >> cfdev.com >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Critter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 12:59 PM >> Subject: XML Parser for CF >> >> >> > Hello CF-Talk, >> > >> > anyone have any suggestions for a decent one? >> > >> > -- >> > Best regards, >> > >> > Critter, MMCP >> > Certified ColdFusion Developer >> > >> > Crit[s2k] - >> > >> >> > ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: XML Parser for CF
Rob: Well we ran some tests using our XML parser and the MSXML parser. We found that the average parsing times differed by quite a bit when parsing the same XML file: 133.454545454545 (Ours) and 1140.68421052632 (MSXML). Min Times: ours: 93 msxml: 1109 Max Times: ours: 313 msxml: 1172 When you add concurrent requests into the mix the response times get very large, thus "buckling" under the load. Our XML parser does not convert CF structures into XML, it simply parses XML into coldfusion structures. CFWDDX will convert a structure into XML! Gary http://www.cfdev.com - Original Message - From: "Rob Gilchrist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 12:34 PM Subject: RE: XML Parser for CF > Hi Gary > I have a site that is about to go live that uses the MSXML parser and I am a > bit concerned by your statement that it buckles under load. Do you know what > sort of load causes it to fail? and what are the effects when it does fail? > > Can your CFX_XMLPARSER convert CF Structures into XML? > > Thanks > > Rob > > -Original Message- > From: Gary Kraeger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 20 September 2001 15:09 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: XML Parser for CF > > > We have a free one at http://www.cfdev.com here is a description of it. > > CFX_XMLParser is a Fast Java CFX tag that takes an XML document and returns > a ColdFusion structure containing the XML document. Our tests show this > parser to be about 1000% faster than the MSXML Parser invoked through > CFOBJECT. CFOBJECT based parsers also tend to buckle under load. > > Gary > cfdev.com > > > - Original Message - > From: "Critter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 12:59 PM > Subject: XML Parser for CF > > > > Hello CF-Talk, > > > > anyone have any suggestions for a decent one? > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > > > Critter, MMCP > > Certified ColdFusion Developer > > > > Crit[s2k] - > > > > ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: XML Parser for CF
Hi Gary I have a site that is about to go live that uses the MSXML parser and I am a bit concerned by your statement that it buckles under load. Do you know what sort of load causes it to fail? and what are the effects when it does fail? Can your CFX_XMLPARSER convert CF Structures into XML? Thanks Rob -Original Message- From: Gary Kraeger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 September 2001 15:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: XML Parser for CF We have a free one at http://www.cfdev.com here is a description of it. CFX_XMLParser is a Fast Java CFX tag that takes an XML document and returns a ColdFusion structure containing the XML document. Our tests show this parser to be about 1000% faster than the MSXML Parser invoked through CFOBJECT. CFOBJECT based parsers also tend to buckle under load. Gary cfdev.com - Original Message - From: "Critter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 12:59 PM Subject: XML Parser for CF > Hello CF-Talk, > > anyone have any suggestions for a decent one? > > -- > Best regards, > > Critter, MMCP > Certified ColdFusion Developer > > Crit[s2k] - > ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: XML Parser for CF
We have a free one at http://www.cfdev.com here is a description of it. CFX_XMLParser is a Fast Java CFX tag that takes an XML document and returns a ColdFusion structure containing the XML document. Our tests show this parser to be about 1000% faster than the MSXML Parser invoked through CFOBJECT. CFOBJECT based parsers also tend to buckle under load. Gary cfdev.com - Original Message - From: "Critter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 12:59 PM Subject: XML Parser for CF > Hello CF-Talk, > > anyone have any suggestions for a decent one? > > -- > Best regards, > > Critter, MMCP > Certified ColdFusion Developer > > Crit[s2k] - > ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: XML Parser for CF
Check out cf_soxml at www.siteobjects.com. If you have any questions, Brett is very helpful on their support forums. Nelson - Original Message - From: "Critter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 12:59 PM Subject: XML Parser for CF > Hello CF-Talk, > > anyone have any suggestions for a decent one? > > -- > Best regards, > > Critter, MMCP > Certified ColdFusion Developer > > Crit[s2k] - > ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: XML Parser for CF
Try downloading the XML toolkit form the devexhange. Rich -Original Message- From: Critter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: XML Parser for CF Hello CF-Talk, anyone have any suggestions for a decent one? -- Best regards, Critter, MMCP Certified ColdFusion Developer Crit[s2k] - ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: XML Parser for CF
CFX_XMLParser at http://www.cfdev.com/xml + Pete Freitag ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) CFDEV.COM ColdFusion Developer Resources http://www.cfdev.com/ -Original Message- From: Critter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: XML Parser for CF Hello CF-Talk, anyone have any suggestions for a decent one? -- Best regards, Critter, MMCP Certified ColdFusion Developer Crit[s2k] - ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
XML Parser for CF
Hello CF-Talk, anyone have any suggestions for a decent one? -- Best regards, Critter, MMCP Certified ColdFusion Developer Crit[s2k] - ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
