RE: no caching pages.

2005-01-14 Thread Munson, Jacob
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From: Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 12:12 PM

> One thing I've never been able to accomplish is make a page, like some
> pages on banking sites will do, that will put up a "This page has
> expired, please click here to start over." message. I've always
> wondered how they accomplish that.

I always thought they did that with expiring cookies.  Sometimes someone will 
send me a link and I get that message, and its because I didn't visit some 
previous page that set a cookie.


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Re: no caching pages.

2005-01-14 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
Oi... so it's got nothing to do with caching, and everything to do with content.

Duh... now that you say that it make perfect sense. And gives me a TON
of new ideas for handling things on a client/server basis within pages
and CF.

DAMN, is that ever cool!

Thanks, dude!

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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:28:37 -0800, Ian Skinner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...From: Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ...One thing I've never been able to accomplish is make a page, like some
> ...pages on banking sites will do, that will put up a "This page has
> ...expired, please click here to start over." message. I've always
> ...wondered how they accomplish that.
> 
> When I explored that, at least my bank, uses JavaScript.  You initialize a 
> time object, and when that object is fired it calls a function that opens a 
> window with the desired content.  I've got a simple version, that just 
> relocates that page, but you can do anything you want in to triggered 
> function.
> 
> --
> Ian Skinner
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> BloodSource
> www.BloodSource.org
> Sacramento, CA
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RE: no caching pages.

2005-01-14 Thread Ian Skinner
...From: Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
...One thing I've never been able to accomplish is make a page, like some
...pages on banking sites will do, that will put up a "This page has
...expired, please click here to start over." message. I've always
...wondered how they accomplish that.

When I explored that, at least my bank, uses JavaScript.  You initialize a time 
object, and when that object is fired it calls a function that opens a window 
with the desired content.  I've got a simple version, that just relocates that 
page, but you can do anything you want in to triggered function.

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Re: no caching pages.

2005-01-14 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
I've always used 

But that's that I've always done, and it's always worked fairly well...

One thing I've never been able to accomplish is make a page, like some
pages on banking sites will do, that will put up a "This page has
expired, please click here to start over." message. I've always
wondered how they accomplish that.

I know IE has some trouble with caching in that it ignores some of the
meta tags that control local page caching... ahh, here's the link. Old
new, dunno if it still applies:
http://www.netobjects.com/workbench/metaexpires.html

Laterz!

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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:43:17 -0800, Ian Skinner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a couple of questions about applying code to not cache pages.
> 
> As recommended by the austere group, the following code should prevent data 
> being stored in the browser's cache.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> First question is how robust is this across the wide verity of browsers?  I 
> have implemented this and experimented with IE and Firefox and it seems to 
> work well, but I know I will be questioned on this by our technically 
> illiterate quality assurance watch dogs and I really don't have much 
> knowledge on this functionality.  Links to resources always welcome.
> 
> Second question, are these the equivalent of writing Meta tags?  This could 
> be useful when creating pure HTML content.
> 
>  for example>
> 
> 
> 
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no caching pages.

2005-01-14 Thread Ian Skinner
I have a couple of questions about applying code to not cache pages.
 
As recommended by the austere group, the following code should prevent data 
being stored in the browser's cache.  
 



 
First question is how robust is this across the wide verity of browsers?  I 
have implemented this and experimented with IE and Firefox and it seems to work 
well, but I know I will be questioned on this by our technically illiterate 
quality assurance watch dogs and I really don't have much knowledge on this 
functionality.  Links to resources always welcome.
 
Second question, are these the equivalent of writing Meta tags?  This could be 
useful when creating pure HTML content.
 
 for example>


 

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RE: CFHeader or Meta Tags (no caching pages)

2000-12-18 Thread Michael She



Thanks for clearing it up.


I read some of the archived messages about preventing caching of webpages.
Is it better to do this via CFheaders, metatags, or both?







"Aaron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 12/18/2000 12:17:22 PM

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cc:   Michael She/TOR/PBC

Subject:  RE: CFHeader




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Hi Michael,

I'm assuming that you are talking about the  tag and not
the  tag... totally different monsters.

 does not generate meta tags, but rather enables you to
write custom response headers to the client:

If you have a network packet sniffer of some sort you can check this
out...

I created a test script and then view the HTTP response from the
server using Microsofts Network Monitor, which comes with MS 2000
Server & NT 4.0.

My code was as follows:





 
  test of cfheader
 


This is the body of my page.





When I view the response from the server using NM, I see this:


**

Content-type: text/html
Page-Completion-Status: Normal
test: 1
Page-Completion-Status: Normal



 
  test of cfheader
 


This is the body of my page.



*

The  does allow you to write text into the  portion
of your HTML document, which would provide your meta tag
functionality.

HTH!

Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I
Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer
MINDSEYE, Inc.
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- -Original Message-
From: Michael She [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 10:50 AM
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Subject: CFHeader





Does CF header generate meta tags, or are HTTP responses something
  different?



Thanks.



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