Re: Weird Session Variable Problem

2003-10-02 Thread Scott Weikert
Have you checked error logs to see if, by chance, your CF service is 
crashing and restarting, and hence, killing off any active sessions? And 
are you losing just this one session variable, or *all* session variables?

--Scott

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Weird Session Variable Problem

2003-10-02 Thread E C list
I am wondering if anyone has any ideas about a Session
variable problem that cropped up today.

I have an app that has been working fine for months on
ColdFusion 5.0 and Windows 2000.  

Today it started throwing an error that a session
variable does not exist.  After initial investigation,
it seems to behave as if the timeout for session
variables was a few seconds or something like that.  I
have checked the timeout setting in the ColdFusion
administrator and the timeout in my APPLICATION.cfm
files, and both confirm much longer timeout
settings--20 minutes. But my variables seem to last
for just a few seconds (or there's something else
going wrong to destroy them prematurely)

I can click from page to page, and the variable will
continue to be defined.  I can reload the same page a
few times, but often the third or forth time the error
is thrown--session variable not defined.  It was
defined, but now its not--and there is nothing on the
pages that updates that variable, there is only output
code on these pages.

I have tried from another machine, and the same thing
happens.  There is a relatively large amount of data
being held in the session variable (its a list of
numbers), but again, this has never been an issue
before.  The machine has 200 megs of free memory, and
a couple gigs of free disk space.

I should mention that the server has done a few other
strange things lately including throwing error 26's
where none have occured before.  The only major change
on the server that I am aware of is that the
administrative password was changed recently, but
Coldfusion seems to be working fine generally
speaking, and it runs as system account on this
server.

Thanks for any ideas.



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Re: session variable problem

2000-12-12 Thread Jennifer

At 12:35 PM 12/12/00 -0600, you wrote:
>At 10:02 AM 12/12/00 -0800, you wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I am having the strangest problem with a session variable. I set it in my
> >application.cfm file and this is the code:
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> >2 out of the 3 people where I work can use the website just fine. The 3rd
> >person has their session variable set but when I try and output it,
> >nothing shows up. I know the session variable has been set because if I do
> >a  'Yes I exist' I don't
> >exist It  gives me a 'Yes, I exist'. I even deleted it by using
> > and ran the  statement again
> >and it said 'I don't exist'. When I do
> >#session.Userid# nothing shows up? My website is
> >dependent on the UserId to see certain pages so obviously it is not
> >working for this 3rd person in my group. I'm stumped. Help, please.
> >
>
>Try printing the session variable. If somehow the session variable were
>empty, it might still exist and this code would have these results if
>session.userid is "". Instead of printing "Yes I exist" print "User
>ID:"#session.userid#

After rereading your message I see that you may have already tried this. 
Sorta.

This is user tracking and it's probably hitting a database and querying for 
the logon id and password at the beginning. If there aren't any records 
returned but you don't check to see if there are records returned, and you 
set userid from the query set (which is empty), you will get this kind of 
problem. In other words, if you aren't testing for records to actually be 
returned by this query, instead of booting a bad login, you are allowing 
the person into the system with an empty userid. I'm not saying that this 
is necessarily what is happening, but it will cause the symptoms you 
mentioned. The user could be logging in incorrectly so no record is 
returned and this would be the effect.


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Re: session variable problem

2000-12-12 Thread Jennifer

At 10:02 AM 12/12/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am having the strangest problem with a session variable. I set it in my 
>application.cfm file and this is the code:
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>2 out of the 3 people where I work can use the website just fine. The 3rd 
>person has their session variable set but when I try and output it, 
>nothing shows up. I know the session variable has been set because if I do 
>a  'Yes I exist' I don't 
>exist It  gives me a 'Yes, I exist'. I even deleted it by using 
> and ran the  statement again 
>and it said 'I don't exist'. When I do 
>#session.Userid# nothing shows up? My website is 
>dependent on the UserId to see certain pages so obviously it is not 
>working for this 3rd person in my group. I'm stumped. Help, please.
>

Try printing the session variable. If somehow the session variable were 
empty, it might still exist and this code would have these results if 
session.userid is "". Instead of printing "Yes I exist" print "User 
ID:"#session.userid#


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Re: session variable problem

2000-12-12 Thread Fred T. Sanders

check to see if they've got both cookies and in memory cookies turned on or
off.


- Original Message -
From: "S R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 1:02 PM
Subject: session variable problem


> Hi,
>  
> I am having the strangest problem with a session variable. I set it
in my application.cfm file and this is the code:
>  
> <CFLOCK SCOPE="SESSION" TIMEOUT="30"
TYPE="EXCLUSIVE"><CFIF NOT
IsDefined("session.UserID")> <CFSET session.UserID =
#GetVar.UserID#></CFIF></CFLOCK>
>  
> 2 out of the 3 people where I work can use the website just fine. The
3rd person has their session variable set but when I try and output it,
nothing shows up. I know the session variable has been set because if I do a
<cfif isDefined("session.userid")> 'Yes I exist' <cfelse>I don't
exist</cfif> It  gives me a 'Yes, I exist'. I even deleted it by
using <cfset structdelete("session.userid")> and ran the <cfif>
statement again and it said 'I don't exist'. When I do
<cfoutput>#session.Userid#</cfoutput> nothing shows up? My
website is dependent on the UserId to see certain pages so obviously it is
not working for this 3rd person in my group. I'm stumped. Help,
please.
>  
> Thanks
>  
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session variable problem

2000-12-12 Thread S R

Hi,
 
I am having the strangest problem with a session variable. I set it in my 
application.cfm file and this is the code:
 
 
 
2 out of the 3 people where I work can use the website just fine. The 3rd person 
has their session variable set but when I try and output it, nothing shows up. I know 
the session variable has been set because if I do a  'Yes I exist' I don't exist 
It  gives me a 'Yes, I exist'. I even deleted it by using  and ran the  statement again and it 
said 'I don't exist'. When I do #session.Userid# 
nothing shows up? My website is dependent on the UserId to see certain pages so 
obviously it is not working for this 3rd person in my group. I'm stumped. Help, 
please.
 
Thanks
 
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Re: Session variable problem

2000-05-12 Thread Stephen M. Aylor

A little birdie told me that a cool one is coming called eForums - keep an
eye peeled for it!

No I didnt work on it.

Steve

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 07:37 AM
Subject: Re: Session variable problem


> Hi,
>
> Does someone know some good Forums written in Cold Fusion ?
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: Session variable problem

2000-05-12 Thread Frederic COLLIN

Hi,

Does someone know some good Forums written in Cold Fusion ? 

Thanks.

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Re: Session variable problem

2000-05-12 Thread Deanna L. Schneider

We had this problem on one of our development servers when we did an upgrade
without doing an uninstall first. Essentially, every session variable had to
be set twice or deleted twice. Something to look into.

-d




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Re: Session variable problem

2000-05-11 Thread B.Cravens

Sounds like an internal network issue.  Are you running any kind of shared
ip addressing?  (ie proxy server, etc.)  That could cause the problem.

Billy

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From: "David Berger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 12:08 PM
Subject: Session variable problem


> OK, I'm running CF4.5, on WinNT4.0, IIS4.0...  We are using session
> management on a particular application.  There are 5 developers
> working/helping on this project.  Everything has been working fine for the
> past 4+ weeks, until today.
>
> Whomever logs in first, between me and one other specific developer, well
we
> end up sharing the same session variable.  None of the other developers
are
> experiencing this problem.  I myself have never seen this before.  It
seems
> that ColdFusion believe's we are the same user.  What could be causing
this?
>   --Any help, would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> David J. Berger
> Web Developer - Consultant
> Cornell Techinical Services
> 
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Re: Session variable problem

2000-05-11 Thread Joshua Miller

Possibly using the same copy of studio?

- Original Message -
From: David Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 10:08 AM
Subject: Session variable problem


> OK, I'm running CF4.5, on WinNT4.0, IIS4.0...  We are using session
> management on a particular application.  There are 5 developers
> working/helping on this project.  Everything has been working fine for the
> past 4+ weeks, until today.
>
> Whomever logs in first, between me and one other specific developer, well
we
> end up sharing the same session variable.  None of the other developers
are
> experiencing this problem.  I myself have never seen this before.  It
seems
> that ColdFusion believe's we are the same user.  What could be causing
this?
>   --Any help, would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> David J. Berger
> Web Developer - Consultant
> Cornell Techinical Services
> 
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Re: Session variable problem -- High level question!

2000-05-11 Thread David Berger

Well, the problem is gone but not exactly sure what caused it.  Here is a 
more detailed explanation of what was happening and how/when it went away.

What is supposed to happen
1) When a user calls up an application from within .../dev_helpdesk 
directory, the application.cfm file checks for session.loggedin, if not 
defined it queries our Census database using cgi.remote_user, then sets two 
session variables, one with the primary key from the census database and one 
with the user's name.

2) I noticed that when I entered the application this morning, that it 
thought that I was another developer (frank - using IE4.0).  Well, I'm 
working off of a laptop (NT workstation, IE 4.0), that Frank has used in the 
past.  So, we tried clearing the history, cache, deleting cookies from both 
machines... running this statement.
  StructClear(session);
...and nothing seemed to change the fact that our server thought we were the 
same person.

3) So, finally I rebooted and Frank ran
StructClear(session);.  Then when I re-entered the 
system, I did it through Netscape and the problem went away on both 
browsers.

4)  None of the other 3 developers were experiencing this problem.  If 
anybody has any incite into why this fixed the problem, I would really 
appreciate.  ---Just can't accept that it was "black magic".

David J. Berger
Web Developer - Consultant
Cornell Techinical Services


Thanks again!
>From: "David Berger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Session variable problem
>Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 10:08:08 PDT
>
>OK, I'm running CF4.5, on WinNT4.0, IIS4.0...  We are using session
>management on a particular application.  There are 5 developers
>working/helping on this project.  Everything has been working fine for the
>past 4+ weeks, until today.
>
>Whomever logs in first, between me and one other specific developer, well 
>we
>end up sharing the same session variable.  None of the other developers are
>experiencing this problem.  I myself have never seen this before.  It seems
>that ColdFusion believe's we are the same user.  What could be causing 
>this?
>   --Any help, would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>David J. Berger
>Web Developer - Consultant
>Cornell Techinical Services
>
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Session variable problem

2000-05-11 Thread David Berger

OK, I'm running CF4.5, on WinNT4.0, IIS4.0...  We are using session 
management on a particular application.  There are 5 developers 
working/helping on this project.  Everything has been working fine for the 
past 4+ weeks, until today.

Whomever logs in first, between me and one other specific developer, well we 
end up sharing the same session variable.  None of the other developers are 
experiencing this problem.  I myself have never seen this before.  It seems 
that ColdFusion believe's we are the same user.  What could be causing this? 
  --Any help, would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
David J. Berger
Web Developer - Consultant
Cornell Techinical Services

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