[cfaussie] @Geoff Bowers, http://www.fullasagoog.com/ seems to be down

[Scott Thornton]

in case you didn't already know.

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RE: [cfaussie] I don't understand why the IIF function works the way it does

[Steve Onnis]

Ok

DE() is "Delay Evaluation"
Evaluate() immediately evaluates the expression

So when you do

IIF(structKeyExists(FORM, "key"), "FORM.key", DE("Empty String")) 

It delays trying to retrieve FORM.key and evaluates it only if the condition
is true

With your example of #IIF(condition,"[a]","")# it would equate to







Which is why it errors

You said "I've been interpreting 'string_expression' to mean an expression
that returns a string" which is actually correct.  The string you pass in IS
an expression but any variables you use in the expression still need to
exist.

I actually don’t use DE() inside IIF() anymore. What you can do is this...


IIF(structKeyExists(FORM, "key"), "FORM.key", "'Empty String'")

About your other question for "How do I do in-line case/switch expression?",
well you can next your IIF() functions so you could do something like..

IIF(structKeyExists(FORM, "key"), "IIF(FORM.key EQ 'hello', ""'welcome'"",
""'bye'"")", "'Empty String'")

...but then it starts to get a little cumbersome. Maybe a UDF or similar
would be better suited for what you are trying to do?

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Chris Velevitch [mailto:chris.velevi...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2010 3:07 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] I don't understand why the IIF function works the way it
does

In CF 7, the function IIF (inline IF) usage is:-

 IIf(condition, string_expression1, string_expression2)

which I initially interpreted to be the equivalent of:-

 
  
 
  
 

but when I do:-

 #IIF(condition,"[a]","")#

I get an error.

On closer inspection, it turns out that IIF is really the equivalent of:-

 
  
 
  
 

I've been interpreting 'string_expression' to mean an expression that
returns a string, but really means a string (or string variable) that
contains an expression.

Why is this? How do I do in-line case/switch expression?


Chris
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Re: [cfaussie] I don't understand why the IIF function works the way it does

[Ricardo Russon]

If you are on CF9 you could do something like

i = 1;
tmp = i == 1 ? "#i#" : "";

In this case, the expression is processed immediately.



On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Terry Sasaki  wrote:
> yeah I kinda agree. DE("[a]") needs to be used eventually.
>
> On 16 September 2010 15:06, Chris Velevitch  wrote:
>> In CF 7, the function IIF (inline IF) usage is:-
>>
>>     IIf(condition, string_expression1, string_expression2)
>>
>> which I initially interpreted to be the equivalent of:-
>>
>>     
>>          
>>     
>>          
>>     
>>
>> but when I do:-
>>
>>     #IIF(condition,"[a]","")#
>>
>> I get an error.
>>
>> On closer inspection, it turns out that IIF is really the equivalent of:-
>>
>>     
>>          
>>     
>>          
>>     
>>
>> I've been interpreting 'string_expression' to mean an expression that
>> returns a string, but really means a string (or string variable) that
>> contains an expression.
>>
>> Why is this? How do I do in-line case/switch expression?
>>
>>
>> Chris
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Re: [cfaussie] I don't understand why the IIF function works the way it does

[Terry Sasaki]

yeah I kinda agree. DE("[a]") needs to be used eventually.

On 16 September 2010 15:06, Chris Velevitch  wrote:
> In CF 7, the function IIF (inline IF) usage is:-
>
>     IIf(condition, string_expression1, string_expression2)
>
> which I initially interpreted to be the equivalent of:-
>
>     
>          
>     
>          
>     
>
> but when I do:-
>
>     #IIF(condition,"[a]","")#
>
> I get an error.
>
> On closer inspection, it turns out that IIF is really the equivalent of:-
>
>     
>          
>     
>          
>     
>
> I've been interpreting 'string_expression' to mean an expression that
> returns a string, but really means a string (or string variable) that
> contains an expression.
>
> Why is this? How do I do in-line case/switch expression?
>
>
> Chris
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[cfaussie] I don't understand why the IIF function works the way it does

[Chris Velevitch]

In CF 7, the function IIF (inline IF) usage is:-

 IIf(condition, string_expression1, string_expression2)

which I initially interpreted to be the equivalent of:-

 
  
 
  
 

but when I do:-

 #IIF(condition,"[a]","")#

I get an error.

On closer inspection, it turns out that IIF is really the equivalent of:-

 
  
 
  
 

I've been interpreting 'string_expression' to mean an expression that
returns a string, but really means a string (or string variable) that
contains an expression.

Why is this? How do I do in-line case/switch expression?


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Re: [cfaussie] Strange multiples of cookies being set

[Duncan]

Thanks Steve,

I have tried this on my dev box and it makes no difference. In fact I
removed all cfcookie tags, and then CF set the jsessionid in a cookie. When
I refresh the page it creates 3 sets of cookies. Even Google analytics is
creating a new set of cookies on each request, which I find even wierder.

I have searched all the code and there is not one cfcookie tag in the files
now.

I put some logging in to my on session start and on app start, and here is
what I found:

-- empty on sessionstart()
application set as follows:






creates one jsessionid cookie & 4 x GA cookies _utma _utmb _utmc _utmz (all
in lowercase)

go to a sub page

get an extra 2 x jsessionid cookies, 2 more sets of GA cookies but this time
the names are in uppercase

go to a third page

I get 3 more jsessionid cookies (now a total of 6, and now have a set of 8
utma cookies.

The logging suggests that the session stays, and that the onsessionstart is
only called once.

"Information","jrpp-11","09/16/10","13:06:45","LOCAL.BIOWISH.LOCAL","running
app new session"
"Information","jrpp-11","09/16/10","13:06:45","LOCAL.BIOWISH.LOCAL","running
app on req start"

"Information","jrpp-11","09/16/10","13:07:35","LOCAL.BIOWISH.LOCAL","running
app on req start"

"Information","jrpp-11","09/16/10","13:08:29","LOCAL.BIOWISH.LOCAL","running
app on req start"

-- 

The exact same thing is happening on live with the GA cookies too. This
leads me to think its not about the CF code. Why would the GA cookies be
replicated and increased each request?


Is it me or is this super odd??



On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Steve Onnis  wrote:

>  It seems to be creating a cookie for each page you visit
>
> try
>
> 
>  path="">
>
> Also just put it in your onSessionStart() method. You only need to do it
> once
>
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> *From:* Duncan [mailto:duncan.lox...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 15 September 2010 5:44 PM
> *To:* cfaussie
> *Subject:* [cfaussie] Strange multiples of cookies being set
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I have a cookie related problem that I cannot get my head around.
>
> See this page for example.
>
>
> http://www.biowishtechnologies.com/au/information/our-company1/senior-management-team/lorenzo-gella/
>
> If you click through a few pages on this site, then view the cookies that
> have been set for it you will see they have been multiplied a lot of times,
> I am guessing unnecessarily. I believe these cookies should be set only once
> in the root of the site.
>
> This issue appears to occur on CF9 in development and in CF8 on live. I
> have tried different combinations of cfcookie and settings but nothing seems
> to stop it happening.
>
> In our application.cfc we have used this code in onRequestStart() to set
> UID 
>
> and we have these lines in there too.
>
> 
> 
>
> The application is set out like this:
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> Can anyone help me find out why we are seeing so many cookies, when really
> I believe there should only be one CFID, CFTOKEN and UID cookie?
>
> Thanks!
>
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[cfaussie] Re: CF Contractor Rates

[Pat]

I'd also think that if you are contracting in the US, you have make up
for the health package you would get on salary? Hence rates would be
more?

On Sep 15, 11:54 pm, "M@ Bourke" 
wrote:
> I'd say Oz isn't very far behind Europe,
>
> I'm from oz but now in the for the last UK 4.5 years
> avg for the UK is £35ph,
> £35 = $58aud
> the Aussie $ is quite high, 4 years ago
> £35 = $91aud
>
> during the recession (we had one here, a proper one) some good developers I
> know had to take lower rates like £30
> 95% of all cf devs wouldn't be able to get over £40
> £40 = $66aud
> even now £40 would be quite high,
> Most good devs that I've worked with here that have gone over to mainland
> europe aren't on much more.
> If anything I'd say Australia is a much more cheaper place to live and has
> higher wages (due to the strong $AUD)

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Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Melbourne for September: Don't Miss It! Tomorrow Night (16 Sept)

[Steve Armstrong]

Count me in

On 15 September 2010 13:36, Peter Robertson  wrote:

> If you are attending, (and we hope that you will be), please RSVP so
> that Steve can organise catering.
> This is a not-to-be-missed event, especially for those responsible for
> web application security!
>
> Details:
>
> A look at securing your ColdFusion servers using the ColdFusion
> Server
> Lock Down Guide and other practical tips to ensure your servers are
> best protected against unknown future vulnerabilities and attacks.
> * A look at the technical reasons behind the ColdFusion Server Lock
> Down Guide
> * Running ColdFusion with minimal privileges
> * Stopping the world from accessing the CF Administrator
> * ColdFusion Administrator secure settings
> * Making use of Security Sandboxes
> * Disabling unused services
> * Security Issues in your code
> * The recent CF8/9 Security Hot Fix, how to hack an unpatched CF
> server and why you should have already patched your server
>
> Phil is a long-time ColdFusion developer and administrator and has a
> deep understanding of how ColdFusion does what it does.  He consults
> to many varied organisations around ColdFusion, Flex and the larger
> Adobe product stack and advocates best practice approaches to
> development methodologies, testing and deployment security.  He is a
> long time RocketBoots partner and CodeWar quizmaster.
>
> Date: Thursday 16 September 2010
> Time: 6:30 PM
> Location:
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>A note on the door will provide a number to ring for access.
>
> RSVP:  Please reply to this post if you are planning to attend so we
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> As always, many thanks to Dale Fraser and CogState for their
> hospitality.  We look forward to seeing you all there.
>
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Re: [cfaussie] Migrate CF from CF 5 to CF9

[Simon Haddon]

I would jump straight to 9 too. Since the code was written in 5 it probably
would be a quicker process to go to 9 and a smoother transition too. Setting
up data sources and custom tags shouldn't be a problem.

If you go through all the levels then it would be more labour intensive with
no visible benefits.

Run the code through the code checker. It will help heaps and make sure your
testing thorough.

I have migrated apps before if you (as I am sure most of us have) if you
want some help.

Cheers,
Simon

On 13 September 2010 17:23, Kai Koenig  wrote:

> Well - you probably would have to manually recreate the datasources.
> Copying custom tags across by hand can't be that bad either. Have a look at
> what the custom tag paths are and how they're stored.
>
> You _will_ have to look into a bunch of issues.
>
> Cheers
> Kai
>
> When I did so on the test server none of the odbc connections transferred
> across from cf5 to cf9 non of the only some of the cftags came across and
> those that did they did not work as cf9 appears to place the cf tags related
> files in a totally different directory path to cf5. Hence my thought of
> taking smaller migratory steps
>
>
> Regards
>
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> *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Dale Fraser
> *Sent:* Monday, 13 September 2010 4:39 PM
> *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [cfaussie] Migrate CF from CF 5 to CF9
>
> I’d jump straight to CF9 I don’t see any issues that can’t be solved.
>
> If something doesn’t work there will be a simple or better solution in CF9
>
> Regards
> Dale Fraser
>
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>
> *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] *On
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> *Subject:* [cfaussie] Migrate CF from CF 5 to CF9
>
> Hi,
>
> I am needing to migrate from CF5 server to CF9
>
> I am aware that the jump from cf5 to cf9 is considerable given the
> structural changes between cf5 and cf9.
>
> I am wondering if the safest option for the smoothest migration be to
> migrate the server from cf5 to cf6 then to cf7 and then migrate from cf7 to
> cf9
>
> The only issue I have is finding install files for cf6 and cf7 if anyone is
> able to point me in the right direction where I am able to download the dev
> version of cf6 and cf7 I would appreciate your assistance.
>
> Regards
>
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: CF Contractor Rates

[M@ Bourke]

I'd say Oz isn't very far behind Europe,

I'm from oz but now in the for the last UK 4.5 years
avg for the UK is £35ph,
£35 = $58aud
the Aussie $ is quite high, 4 years ago
£35 = $91aud

during the recession (we had one here, a proper one) some good developers I
know had to take lower rates like £30
95% of all cf devs wouldn't be able to get over £40
£40 = $66aud
even now £40 would be quite high,
Most good devs that I've worked with here that have gone over to mainland
europe aren't on much more.
If anything I'd say Australia is a much more cheaper place to live and has
higher wages (due to the strong $AUD)

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[cfaussie] Re: CF Contractor Rates

[Chong]

I think when comparing rates region to region, one would also have to
keep in mind that we have varying tax structures... i think it is best
to compare what ones after tax income/rate in relation to the region's
standard of living rather than the dollar amount of the charge
rate...

Also I reckon Kai is right, it depends on what sort of projects you
would tackle, will directly relate to how much you can charge ...

Just my 2 cents,
Chong

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RE: [cfaussie] Strange multiples of cookies being set

[Steve Onnis]

It seems to be creating a cookie for each page you visit
 
try
 


 
Also just put it in your onSessionStart() method. You only need to do it
once


  _  

From: Duncan [mailto:duncan.lox...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2010 5:44 PM
To: cfaussie
Subject: [cfaussie] Strange multiples of cookies being set


Hi Folks,

I have a cookie related problem that I cannot get my head around.

See this page for example. 

http://www.biowishtechnologies.com/au/information/our-company1/senior-manage
ment-team/lorenzo-gella/ 

If you click through a few pages on this site, then view the cookies that
have been set for it you will see they have been multiplied a lot of times,
I am guessing unnecessarily. I believe these cookies should be set only once
in the root of the site. 

This issue appears to occur on CF9 in development and in CF8 on live. I have
tried different combinations of cfcookie and settings but nothing seems to
stop it happening.

In our application.cfc we have used this code in onRequestStart() to set UID
 

and we have these lines in there too.




The application is set out like this:







Can anyone help me find out why we are seeing so many cookies, when really I
believe there should only be one CFID, CFTOKEN and UID cookie?

Thanks!

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duncan.lox...@gmail.com


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[cfaussie] Strange multiples of cookies being set

[Duncan]

Hi Folks,

I have a cookie related problem that I cannot get my head around.

See this page for example.

http://www.biowishtechnologies.com/au/information/our-company1/senior-management-team/lorenzo-gella/

If you click through a few pages on this site, then view the cookies that
have been set for it you will see they have been multiplied a lot of times,
I am guessing unnecessarily. I believe these cookies should be set only once
in the root of the site.

This issue appears to occur on CF9 in development and in CF8 on live. I have
tried different combinations of cfcookie and settings but nothing seems to
stop it happening.

In our application.cfc we have used this code in onRequestStart() to set UID


and we have these lines in there too.




The application is set out like this:







Can anyone help me find out why we are seeing so many cookies, when really I
believe there should only be one CFID, CFTOKEN and UID cookie?

Thanks!

-- 
Duncan Loxton
duncan.lox...@gmail.com

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