Re: [Jchat] Correspondents' names anonymised as "Programming Forum" "Chat" etc
Just to say that newly installed Thunderbird (68.3.1) on this new xmas-present-to-self laptop was manifesting the anonymising behaviour on some senders' names. The procedure described below changing a display option still works, I'm glad to say. FYI Mike On 14/05/2019 17:40, 'Mike Day' via Chat wrote: OK!!! It's easy when you see it! I'm glad I asked, if only to set this down for next time one of us needs it. Using Thunderbird's (v60.6.1) very latest fashionable menu "button", namely the three horizontal bars below the X-widget for close-window, select Options/Options to display a dialog box; in the dialog box, select the Display tab, and within its sub-dialog, select the Advanced tab. This reveals two areas, "Reading" and "DIsplay" : in the Display area, ensure the tick box, "_S_how only display names for people in my address book", does NOT have a tick, and OK the Options dialog. I had a look at but didn't try "remove self from addess book." Thanks for your ideas, Mike On 14/05/2019 15:54, 'Mike Day' via Chat wrote: Yes, I'm on 60.6.1 as well! Perhaps our T/bird set-ups got swapped I agree its behaviour is consistent in that individuals are consistently treated one way or the other! Weird, Mike On 14/05/2019 15:06, David Mitchell wrote: I have been seeing the 'anonymizing' issue for years with Tbird. Some messages showed the "From" field value as the name of the Forum. I never determined why some messages in the forums showed this and some did not. It seemed to be consistent for particular senders. Several weeks ago, this changed for me. I now see some From values as: 'Mike Day' via Chat Plus, my older messages were retroactively fixed. So, I suspect that Tbird has had some recent changes that fixed it for me. I am running Tbird 60.6.1. David Mitchell On 5/14/2019 09:22, chris burke wrote: I don't see this problem using Gmail. Is the Tbird behaviour consistent? It seems that Skip and Pascal were anonymized, but is this always the case? If so, check your address book entries for them. Also, is it possible to customize the "Correspondents" column in Tbird, so as to force showing the "From" address for the forums? On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 1:42 AM 'Mike Day' via Chat wrote: Sorry to ask this again - Chris set me right some time ago, but I can't find his advice, nor can I remember how to show myself and others, such as Skip Cave, I think, by name rather than as "Programming Forum", both in the "Correspondents" column in Mozilla Thunderbird's list of emails, and, in an individual message window, the names shown as From and To. I don't know if this is a feature of other email support software - I've always favoured T/Bird. This isn't (only!) a matter of vanity - it's a pain looking at a stream of messages listed by thread and looking for a particular person's contribution. For example, in RE Boss's recent thread on "seqfan problem", all contributors' names except mine are displayed, Boss, Hui, Alvord et al, but I'm anonymous, so not too difficult. However, in Skip Cave's thread "Largest & Smallest", both he and I are anonymous, while Roger & Nollaig are there by name. As for Piet de Jong's thread, "Passing on" monad/dyad information, I have no idea who commented: " Cliff's answer is helpful IMO," I think the answer might be something to do with the "Address Book" but can't remember. It's probably thought to be intuitive, but it beats me! J's easy by comparison... Thanks, Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jchat] Correspondents' names anonymised as "Programming Forum" "Chat" etc
OK!!! It's easy when you see it! I'm glad I asked, if only to set this down for next time one of us needs it. Using Thunderbird's (v60.6.1) very latest fashionable menu "button", namely the three horizontal bars below the X-widget for close-window, select Options/Options to display a dialog box; in the dialog box, select the Display tab, and within its sub-dialog, select the Advanced tab. This reveals two areas, "Reading" and "DIsplay" : in the Display area, ensure the tick box, "_S_how only display names for people in my address book", does NOT have a tick, and OK the Options dialog. I had a look at but didn't try "remove self from addess book." Thanks for your ideas, Mike On 14/05/2019 15:54, 'Mike Day' via Chat wrote: Yes, I'm on 60.6.1 as well! Perhaps our T/bird set-ups got swapped I agree its behaviour is consistent in that individuals are consistently treated one way or the other! Weird, Mike On 14/05/2019 15:06, David Mitchell wrote: I have been seeing the 'anonymizing' issue for years with Tbird. Some messages showed the "From" field value as the name of the Forum. I never determined why some messages in the forums showed this and some did not. It seemed to be consistent for particular senders. Several weeks ago, this changed for me. I now see some From values as: 'Mike Day' via Chat Plus, my older messages were retroactively fixed. So, I suspect that Tbird has had some recent changes that fixed it for me. I am running Tbird 60.6.1. David Mitchell On 5/14/2019 09:22, chris burke wrote: I don't see this problem using Gmail. Is the Tbird behaviour consistent? It seems that Skip and Pascal were anonymized, but is this always the case? If so, check your address book entries for them. Also, is it possible to customize the "Correspondents" column in Tbird, so as to force showing the "From" address for the forums? On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 1:42 AM 'Mike Day' via Chat wrote: Sorry to ask this again - Chris set me right some time ago, but I can't find his advice, nor can I remember how to show myself and others, such as Skip Cave, I think, by name rather than as "Programming Forum", both in the "Correspondents" column in Mozilla Thunderbird's list of emails, and, in an individual message window, the names shown as From and To. I don't know if this is a feature of other email support software - I've always favoured T/Bird. This isn't (only!) a matter of vanity - it's a pain looking at a stream of messages listed by thread and looking for a particular person's contribution. For example, in RE Boss's recent thread on "seqfan problem", all contributors' names except mine are displayed, Boss, Hui, Alvord et al, but I'm anonymous, so not too difficult. However, in Skip Cave's thread "Largest & Smallest", both he and I are anonymous, while Roger & Nollaig are there by name. As for Piet de Jong's thread, "Passing on" monad/dyad information, I have no idea who commented: " Cliff's answer is helpful IMO," I think the answer might be something to do with the "Address Book" but can't remember. It's probably thought to be intuitive, but it beats me! J's easy by comparison... Thanks, Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jchat] Correspondents' names anonymised as "Programming Forum" "Chat" etc
Can you check your address book for entries like "Programming Forum" and "Pascal Jasmin"? Very likely they are associated in some way. On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 7:54 AM 'Mike Day' via Chat wrote: > Yes, I'm on 60.6.1 as well! Perhaps our T/bird set-ups got swapped > > I agree its behaviour is consistent in that individuals are consistently > treated > > one way or the other! > > Weird, > > Mike > > On 14/05/2019 15:06, David Mitchell wrote: > > I have been seeing the 'anonymizing' issue for years with Tbird. Some > > messages showed the "From" field value as the name of the Forum. I > > never determined why some messages in the forums showed this and some > > did not. It seemed to be consistent for particular senders. > > > > Several weeks ago, this changed for me. I now see some From values as: > > 'Mike Day' via Chat > > > > Plus, my older messages were retroactively fixed. > > > > So, I suspect that Tbird has had some recent changes that fixed it for > > me. I am running Tbird 60.6.1. > > > > David Mitchell > > > > > > On 5/14/2019 09:22, chris burke wrote: > >> I don't see this problem using Gmail. > >> > >> Is the Tbird behaviour consistent? It seems that Skip and Pascal were > >> anonymized, but is this always the case? If so, check your address book > >> entries for them. > >> > >> Also, is it possible to customize the "Correspondents" column in > >> Tbird, so > >> as to force showing the "From" address for the forums? > >> > >> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 1:42 AM 'Mike Day' via Chat > > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Sorry to ask this again - Chris set me right some time ago, but I > >>> can't > >>> find his advice, nor can I remember how to show myself and others, such > >>> as Skip Cave, I think, by name rather than as "Programming Forum", both > >>> in the "Correspondents" column in Mozilla Thunderbird's list of emails, > >>> and, in an individual message window, the names shown as From and To. > >>> > >>> I don't know if this is a feature of other email support software - > >>> I've > >>> always favoured T/Bird. > >>> > >>> This isn't (only!) a matter of vanity - it's a pain looking at a stream > >>> of messages listed by thread and looking for a particular person's > >>> contribution. > >>> > >>> For example, in RE Boss's recent thread on "seqfan problem", all > >>> contributors' names except mine are displayed, Boss, Hui, Alvord et al, > >>> but I'm anonymous, so not too difficult. However, in Skip Cave's > >>> thread > >>> "Largest & Smallest", both he and I are anonymous, while Roger & > >>> Nollaig > >>> are there by name. As for Piet de Jong's thread, "Passing on" > >>> monad/dyad > >>> information, I have no idea who commented: " Cliff's answer is helpful > >>> IMO," > >>> > >>> I think the answer might be something to do with the "Address Book" but > >>> can't remember. It's probably thought to be intuitive, but it beats > >>> me! J's easy by comparison... > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> Mike > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --- > >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus > >>> > >>> -- > >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >>> > >> -- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> > > -- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jchat] Correspondents' names anonymised as "Programming Forum" "Chat" etc
I have no experience with TBird, so take this idea with that in mind. One questioner on the support link suggested that the following advice worked. "try removing yourself from the address book." However, the problem was different. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1175671 -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jchat] Correspondents' names anonymised as "Programming Forum" "Chat" etc
I have been using Thunderbird under Win10 since the fall of 2016 and do not have your problem. I display From and Recipient (Expéditeur and Destinataire for me). Have you checked the source of emails to see what the From field looks like? v.g. Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 15:00:21 +0100 From: 'Mike Day' via Chat Then in the From column, I see 'Mike Day' via Chat. See also on the Contact tab of the Correspondent record the option regarding what to display. ~ Gilles Le 2019-05-14 à 10:06, David Mitchell a écrit : > I have been seeing the 'anonymizing' issue for years with Tbird. Some > messages showed the "From" field value as the name of the Forum. I > never determined why some messages in the forums showed this and some > did not. It seemed to be consistent for particular senders. > > Several weeks ago, this changed for me. I now see some From values as: > 'Mike Day' via Chat > > Plus, my older messages were retroactively fixed. > > So, I suspect that Tbird has had some recent changes that fixed it for > me. I am running Tbird 60.6.1. > > David Mitchell > > > On 5/14/2019 09:22, chris burke wrote: >> I don't see this problem using Gmail. >> >> Is the Tbird behaviour consistent? It seems that Skip and Pascal were >> anonymized, but is this always the case? If so, check your address book >> entries for them. >> >> Also, is it possible to customize the "Correspondents" column in >> Tbird, so >> as to force showing the "From" address for the forums? >> >> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 1:42 AM 'Mike Day' via Chat >> wrote: >> >>> Sorry to ask this again - Chris set me right some time ago, but I >>> can't >>> find his advice, nor can I remember how to show myself and others, such >>> as Skip Cave, I think, by name rather than as "Programming Forum", both >>> in the "Correspondents" column in Mozilla Thunderbird's list of emails, >>> and, in an individual message window, the names shown as From and To. >>> >>> I don't know if this is a feature of other email support software - >>> I've >>> always favoured T/Bird. >>> >>> This isn't (only!) a matter of vanity - it's a pain looking at a stream >>> of messages listed by thread and looking for a particular person's >>> contribution. >>> >>> For example, in RE Boss's recent thread on "seqfan problem", all >>> contributors' names except mine are displayed, Boss, Hui, Alvord et al, >>> but I'm anonymous, so not too difficult. However, in Skip Cave's >>> thread >>> "Largest & Smallest", both he and I are anonymous, while Roger & >>> Nollaig >>> are there by name. As for Piet de Jong's thread, "Passing on" >>> monad/dyad >>> information, I have no idea who commented: " Cliff's answer is helpful >>> IMO," >>> >>> I think the answer might be something to do with the "Address Book" but >>> can't remember. It's probably thought to be intuitive, but it beats >>> me! J's easy by comparison... >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> >>> -- >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>> >> -- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > -- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jchat] Correspondents' names anonymised as "Programming Forum" "Chat" etc
Yes, I'm on 60.6.1 as well! Perhaps our T/bird set-ups got swapped I agree its behaviour is consistent in that individuals are consistently treated one way or the other! Weird, Mike On 14/05/2019 15:06, David Mitchell wrote: I have been seeing the 'anonymizing' issue for years with Tbird. Some messages showed the "From" field value as the name of the Forum. I never determined why some messages in the forums showed this and some did not. It seemed to be consistent for particular senders. Several weeks ago, this changed for me. I now see some From values as: 'Mike Day' via Chat Plus, my older messages were retroactively fixed. So, I suspect that Tbird has had some recent changes that fixed it for me. I am running Tbird 60.6.1. David Mitchell On 5/14/2019 09:22, chris burke wrote: I don't see this problem using Gmail. Is the Tbird behaviour consistent? It seems that Skip and Pascal were anonymized, but is this always the case? If so, check your address book entries for them. Also, is it possible to customize the "Correspondents" column in Tbird, so as to force showing the "From" address for the forums? On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 1:42 AM 'Mike Day' via Chat wrote: Sorry to ask this again - Chris set me right some time ago, but I can't find his advice, nor can I remember how to show myself and others, such as Skip Cave, I think, by name rather than as "Programming Forum", both in the "Correspondents" column in Mozilla Thunderbird's list of emails, and, in an individual message window, the names shown as From and To. I don't know if this is a feature of other email support software - I've always favoured T/Bird. This isn't (only!) a matter of vanity - it's a pain looking at a stream of messages listed by thread and looking for a particular person's contribution. For example, in RE Boss's recent thread on "seqfan problem", all contributors' names except mine are displayed, Boss, Hui, Alvord et al, but I'm anonymous, so not too difficult. However, in Skip Cave's thread "Largest & Smallest", both he and I are anonymous, while Roger & Nollaig are there by name. As for Piet de Jong's thread, "Passing on" monad/dyad information, I have no idea who commented: " Cliff's answer is helpful IMO," I think the answer might be something to do with the "Address Book" but can't remember. It's probably thought to be intuitive, but it beats me! J's easy by comparison... Thanks, Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jchat] Correspondents' names anonymised as "Programming Forum" "Chat" etc
I have been seeing the 'anonymizing' issue for years with Tbird. Some messages showed the "From" field value as the name of the Forum. I never determined why some messages in the forums showed this and some did not. It seemed to be consistent for particular senders. Several weeks ago, this changed for me. I now see some From values as: 'Mike Day' via Chat Plus, my older messages were retroactively fixed. So, I suspect that Tbird has had some recent changes that fixed it for me. I am running Tbird 60.6.1. David Mitchell On 5/14/2019 09:22, chris burke wrote: I don't see this problem using Gmail. Is the Tbird behaviour consistent? It seems that Skip and Pascal were anonymized, but is this always the case? If so, check your address book entries for them. Also, is it possible to customize the "Correspondents" column in Tbird, so as to force showing the "From" address for the forums? On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 1:42 AM 'Mike Day' via Chat wrote: Sorry to ask this again - Chris set me right some time ago, but I can't find his advice, nor can I remember how to show myself and others, such as Skip Cave, I think, by name rather than as "Programming Forum", both in the "Correspondents" column in Mozilla Thunderbird's list of emails, and, in an individual message window, the names shown as From and To. I don't know if this is a feature of other email support software - I've always favoured T/Bird. This isn't (only!) a matter of vanity - it's a pain looking at a stream of messages listed by thread and looking for a particular person's contribution. For example, in RE Boss's recent thread on "seqfan problem", all contributors' names except mine are displayed, Boss, Hui, Alvord et al, but I'm anonymous, so not too difficult. However, in Skip Cave's thread "Largest & Smallest", both he and I are anonymous, while Roger & Nollaig are there by name. As for Piet de Jong's thread, "Passing on" monad/dyad information, I have no idea who commented: " Cliff's answer is helpful IMO," I think the answer might be something to do with the "Address Book" but can't remember. It's probably thought to be intuitive, but it beats me! J's easy by comparison... Thanks, Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jchat] Correspondents' names anonymised as "Programming Forum" "Chat" etc
Yes, I think it is a Thunderbird “feature”, and something to do with the address book, or perhaps message display options, but how to control it escapes me. I can indeed see my name on my message (to which you’re replying here) in the Inbox on this iPad, but that’s only ephemeral. I expect it to become “chat forum” when I read it into tbird later on. (I retain emails on the laptop rather than TalkTalk’s server.) I’m sure you came up with a solution a year or two back, but I can’t find it; so much for keeping old emails! Not the end of the world anyway, Cheers Mike Sent from my iPad > On 14 May 2019, at 14:22, chris burke wrote: > > I don't see this problem using Gmail. > > Is the Tbird behaviour consistent? It seems that Skip and Pascal were > anonymized, but is this always the case? If so, check your address book > entries for them. > > Also, is it possible to customize the "Correspondents" column in Tbird, so > as to force showing the "From" address for the forums? > > On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 1:42 AM 'Mike Day' via Chat > wrote: > >> Sorry to ask this again - Chris set me right some time ago, but I can't >> find his advice, nor can I remember how to show myself and others, such >> as Skip Cave, I think, by name rather than as "Programming Forum", both >> in the "Correspondents" column in Mozilla Thunderbird's list of emails, >> and, in an individual message window, the names shown as From and To. >> >> I don't know if this is a feature of other email support software - I've >> always favoured T/Bird. >> >> This isn't (only!) a matter of vanity - it's a pain looking at a stream >> of messages listed by thread and looking for a particular person's >> contribution. >> >> For example, in RE Boss's recent thread on "seqfan problem", all >> contributors' names except mine are displayed, Boss, Hui, Alvord et al, >> but I'm anonymous, so not too difficult. However, in Skip Cave's thread >> "Largest & Smallest", both he and I are anonymous, while Roger & Nollaig >> are there by name. As for Piet de Jong's thread, "Passing on" monad/dyad >> information, I have no idea who commented: " Cliff's answer is helpful >> IMO," >> >> I think the answer might be something to do with the "Address Book" but >> can't remember. It's probably thought to be intuitive, but it beats >> me! J's easy by comparison... >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> -- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > -- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jchat] Correspondents' names anonymised as "Programming Forum" "Chat" etc
I don't see this problem using Gmail. Is the Tbird behaviour consistent? It seems that Skip and Pascal were anonymized, but is this always the case? If so, check your address book entries for them. Also, is it possible to customize the "Correspondents" column in Tbird, so as to force showing the "From" address for the forums? On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 1:42 AM 'Mike Day' via Chat wrote: > Sorry to ask this again - Chris set me right some time ago, but I can't > find his advice, nor can I remember how to show myself and others, such > as Skip Cave, I think, by name rather than as "Programming Forum", both > in the "Correspondents" column in Mozilla Thunderbird's list of emails, > and, in an individual message window, the names shown as From and To. > > I don't know if this is a feature of other email support software - I've > always favoured T/Bird. > > This isn't (only!) a matter of vanity - it's a pain looking at a stream > of messages listed by thread and looking for a particular person's > contribution. > > For example, in RE Boss's recent thread on "seqfan problem", all > contributors' names except mine are displayed, Boss, Hui, Alvord et al, > but I'm anonymous, so not too difficult. However, in Skip Cave's thread > "Largest & Smallest", both he and I are anonymous, while Roger & Nollaig > are there by name. As for Piet de Jong's thread, "Passing on" monad/dyad > information, I have no idea who commented: " Cliff's answer is helpful > IMO," > > I think the answer might be something to do with the "Address Book" but > can't remember. It's probably thought to be intuitive, but it beats > me! J's easy by comparison... > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > -- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
[Jchat] Correspondents' names anonymised as "Programming Forum" "Chat" etc
Sorry to ask this again - Chris set me right some time ago, but I can't find his advice, nor can I remember how to show myself and others, such as Skip Cave, I think, by name rather than as "Programming Forum", both in the "Correspondents" column in Mozilla Thunderbird's list of emails, and, in an individual message window, the names shown as From and To. I don't know if this is a feature of other email support software - I've always favoured T/Bird. This isn't (only!) a matter of vanity - it's a pain looking at a stream of messages listed by thread and looking for a particular person's contribution. For example, in RE Boss's recent thread on "seqfan problem", all contributors' names except mine are displayed, Boss, Hui, Alvord et al, but I'm anonymous, so not too difficult. However, in Skip Cave's thread "Largest & Smallest", both he and I are anonymous, while Roger & Nollaig are there by name. As for Piet de Jong's thread, "Passing on" monad/dyad information, I have no idea who commented: " Cliff's answer is helpful IMO," I think the answer might be something to do with the "Address Book" but can't remember. It's probably thought to be intuitive, but it beats me! J's easy by comparison... Thanks, Mike --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
