[freenet-chat] PGP signatures

2001-05-11 Thread Aaron P Ingebrigtsen

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Hash: SHA1

Could people just kind of post thier PGP signatures here?  It would
be nice to have a list of everyone's PGP signatures under one
subject.  Or you could just put your PGP signature on all your
messages. :)

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Re: [freenet-chat] Legal vulnerabilities (was: JRE License)

2001-05-11 Thread Aaron P Ingebrigtsen


On Thu, 10 May 2001 19:45:02 -0400 Greg Wooledge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 Aaron P Ingebrigtsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
  Bush is about to cross the line with his activities.  Soon he may 
 actualy
  hurt some or many americans, maybe even kill them.
 
 In what way would this be new?  The US government kills its citizens 
 all
 the time, many of them in the name of the War on Drugs.  Since 
 this
 War is being carried out by the agencies of the executive branch,
 the president is responsible for it.

Ah, but the President is not all powerfull.  If he tries his best to stop
the drug war, then I cannot fault him on that.  But if he supports it, or
does nothing to stop it, then yes, he is at least partialy at fault.

 
 (And don't even think for a moment that it's acceptable because the 
 people
 who are murdered are just drug users.  Many of the people killed 
 weren't
 even drug users; they were innocent people who just happened to be 
 in
 the wrong place at the wrong time.  You can find several incidents 
 with
 a properly worded web search -- the first one I stumbled across was 
 the
 death of Patrick Dorismond, 
 http://www.cato.org/dailys/04-07-00.html.)

Oh I don't think it is acceptable even if they are just drug users. 
Drug Users are not the true criminals in the drug war, it is the
government and the big drug cartels who are the true criminals.

I think it is totaly wrong that bounty hunters have the powers of police,
but none of the checks and balances that keep them in line.  A bounty
hunter can just break into your house without knocking, or anouncing
themselves, without any warrants for entry, searching, or arrest, and you
cannot legaly do anything to protect yourself or your home from them.  It
is totaly wrong in every way that I can think of.

Putting up a bounty for someone is the same as putting out a mob hit on
someone.  Only it is somehow more legal because it is the government that
does it.

 
 http://www.stopthedrugwar.org/
 http://www.drcnet.org/
 http://www.cato.org/

I fully support stopping the drug war.

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Re: [freenet-chat] David and Aaron!

2001-05-11 Thread Aaron P Ingebrigtsen


On Thu, 10 May 2001 19:22:20 -0400 frankg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 ATTENTION: David McNab and Aaron P Ingebrigtsen
  
 Do freenetproject.org a favor and keep your pirate
 warez chit chat OFF this list. Don't post links to
 pirated software here.
  
 Here is David McNab advising node operators to 'take
 precautions', and in the next sentence he's giving out
 a link to pirated software on a public mailing list.
  
 Brilliant. Any other sage security advice?

Why?  They have all the facts they need to launch an attack against
freenet, simply because of the nature of freenet.  Not even because of
the stuff you can get on freenet.

How is talking only about the good things on freenet going to change
that?  It won't.

As for advertiseing pirated software on a public email list, that is a
risk the advertiser takes.  We all know this.  By saying you have pirated
software in public, you take the risk of being hunted down and punished
by the government.  It is not your risk, nor freenet's, but David's and
anyone else's who chooses to do what David did.

And anyone who sais that they are haveing trouble with PGP Disk, such as
I have, is not necessarily saying that they have pirated software.  Did I
say I downloaded and installed pirated software?  No.  How do you know
that I haven't purchased it?  You don't, do you?

Do you have to give proof of purchase for a piece of software before you
can talk about that piece of software?  I sure hope not, that would be a
huge pain in the neck.  Most of my software is shareware, freeware, or
purchased.  I freely admit here and now that I do have abandonware.  If I
go down in flames for haveing Doom or something, oh well.  As for pirated
software, well, if I can't pay for it because I have no money, then I'm
not STEALING money from the authors of the programs.  If I do get enough
money to pay my debt I will concider any pirated software I have to be
part of that debt and will pay for them.  Otherwise, I can't pay when I
have no money, so, back off.

If I get arrested and imprisoned for what I am doing, oh well.  I'm
willing to take that risk if it means helping other people to have TRUE
freedom of speech and freedom of expression.  And I'm willing to take the
risk if it means getting what I need in order to keep my computer working
and to protect it from hackers, viruses, and damage and stuff.  The games
aren't really worth the risk, but, as long as I'm risking it for a good
cause, why not have some fun too?! :)

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Re: [freenet-chat] Re: David and Aaron!

2001-05-11 Thread Aaron P Ingebrigtsen


On Fri, 11 May 2001 13:43:04 -0400 frankg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 I wasn't trying to start a debate about copying
 software.
 
 That wasn't the point. Do we really need the SPA's
 attention or PGP's lawyers fucking with Freenet?
 
 You didn't see the irony about a guy posting a msg
 about being secure by posting a link to a pirated
 (oops that bad word again) version of PGP on this list.

Oh, yes, I see the irony.  It was an insecure message which exposed David
to the risk of legal action being taken against him.  His mistake.  But
how does that effect you in any way?  They are going to attack freenet
anyway, they have all the amunition they need.  Nothing we do or say on
here or on freenet will change that.

 
 
 Ok Mark, start posting your warez links d00D. Threaten
 the U.S. president like that other dork. Freenet really
 needs this type of publicity.

Ok, you know nothing about me, and you are calling me a dork.  Are you
still in grade school or something?

 
 People have been *oh my* censored on this list. Yes, I remember at 
 least
 one guy was blocked from these mailing lists.

Hmm, I have never seen you before, and never known anyone to be blocked
from the list, but I think people who go around calling people nasty
names and getting into stupid online arguments for no good reason might
become a candicate for censure.  Not that I like censorship, I hate it,
but I also don't really like being called an idiot or a dork.

 
 So don't call me the thought police. I told those idiots to shut
 up. I didn't block them from Freenet's mailing lists, which has
 been done by Freenet official members.

So if we choose to ignore you and not shut up, you would be unable to
control us, right?  You can ignore David and me if you like.  I have no
problem with that.  In fact, lets just ignore each other from now on.  I
won't read anymore messages from you, and you won't read messages from
David or me. :)  Ok, problem solved.

 
 Everyone loves censorship. Its a bitch deciding when its wrong
 or right huh?
 
 Remember the kid on the dev list who tried to remove the pedophile
 picture test.jpg with htl 1 attacks? Tavin Cole had problems with 
 him
 try removing pedophile pictures.
 
 Then we see Tavin talking about Think Cash, a way to prevent 
 spammers
 from posting to Freenet. I know spammers are worse than pedophiles,
 but... nah that isn't censorship. Nah.
 
 We all love censorship.

I don't like censorship, in fact, I would rather communicate with people
on this list securely useing PGP.  But, unless other people want to do
it, it will never happen will it?

The only kind of censorship I will ever support is the right and ability
to ignore anyone you want to.

So, I will now excercise that right and ignore any messages from you,
good day. :)

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Re: [freenet-chat] Re: David and Aaron!

2001-05-11 Thread Tavin Cole

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 02:06:26PM -0400, frankg wrote:
 Quoting Tavin Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:43:04PM -0400, frankg wrote:
   Remember the kid on the dev list who tried to remove the pedophile
   picture test.jpg with htl 1 attacks? Tavin Cole had problems with him
   try removing pedophile pictures.
  
   Then we see Tavin talking about Think Cash, a way to prevent spammers
   from posting to Freenet. I know spammers are worse than pedophiles,
   but... nah that isn't censorship. Nah.
  
   We all love censorship.
 
  Excuse me, but where do you get off misconstruing my statements, out of
  context, in an argument that I am completely uninvolved in?
 
 
 Everything I said was true. What did I take out of context?
 I was making the point that everyone loves censorship in one
 form or another. You're an excellent example that came to mind.

I once expressed irritation with some of Mr. Todd's activities.  I never
said I had problems with him try removing pedophile pictures (sic).

I have discussed think cash on the list.  How do you get from there to
saying I'm advocating censorship?

 You have a problem with me talking about things you have said
 on a public mailing list?

No, but civility recommends that you not misquote me, nor draw ungrounded
conclusions, nor make unpleasant insinuations about my character.

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Re: [freenet-chat] David and Aaron!

2001-05-11 Thread frankg

Quoting Aaron P Ingebrigtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 As for advertiseing pirated software on a public email list, that is a
 risk the advertiser takes.  We all know this.  By saying you have
pirated
 software in public, you take the risk of being hunted down and punished
 by the government.  It is not your risk, nor freenet's, but David's and
 anyone else's who chooses to do what David did.

 And anyone who sais that they are haveing trouble with PGP Disk, such
as
 I have, is not necessarily saying that they have pirated software.  Did
I
 say I downloaded and installed pirated software?  No.  How do you know
 that I haven't purchased it?  You don't, do you?


I don't care about you Aaron. I care about Freenet. I care about bad
publicity for Freenet.

You are talking about pirating software and this isn't the place for it.
You in particular did encourage other people to create a link from a
pirated piece of software in the KSK form to a more secure SSK form.

I did not mention my opinion about pirating being bad or good. It is
bad for Freenet if people use these lists for pirating talk.

Why are you putting freenetproject.org in jeapordy?

Talk about PGP all you want. Don't post links to pirated
copies of it here or encourage others to do illegal acts
on this list.

I didn't accuse you of owning pirated software.


 Do you have to give proof of purchase for a piece of software before
you
 can talk about that piece of software?  I sure hope not, that would be
a
 huge pain in the neck.  Most of my software is shareware, freeware, or
 purchased.  I freely admit here and now that I do have abandonware.  If
I
 go down in flames for haveing Doom or something, oh well.  As for
pirated
 software, well, if I can't pay for it because I have no money, then I'm
 not STEALING money from the authors of the programs.  If I do get
enough
 money to pay my debt I will concider any pirated software I have to be
 part of that debt and will pay for them.  Otherwise, I can't pay when I
 have no money, so, back off.

 If I get arrested and imprisoned for what I am doing, oh well.  I'm
 willing to take that risk if it means helping other people to have TRUE
 freedom of speech and freedom of expression.  And I'm willing to take
the
 risk if it means getting what I need in order to keep my computer
working
 and to protect it from hackers, viruses, and damage and stuff.  The
games
 aren't really worth the risk, but, as long as I'm risking it for a good
 cause, why not have some fun too?! :)
 
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Re: [freenet-chat] Legal vulnerabilities (was: JRE License)

2001-05-11 Thread Aaron Guy Davies

On Fri, 11 May 2001, Aaron P Ingebrigtsen wrote:

 Aaron Davies wrote:
 
  What exactly is Bush doing that's going to kill so many people?
 
 Hmm, lets see, for starters he supports the death penalty in a system
 that kills innocent people for crimes they didn't commit.  He is trying
 to get rid of a new Clean Water rule that drops the threshold of arsenic
 in the water from 50 ppb to like 10 ppb, which is what it is in the rest
 of the civilised world.  Arsenic can cause cancer by the way, and oh
 yeah, IT'S POISON!  He supports the drug war, I think.  That in
 itself is bad enough.  He supports the destruction of our environment in
 so many ways that affect us directly, and very very badly.
 
 I wouldn't be surprised if Big Oil, Big Auto, and Big Tobacco all have
 him in thier collective pockets.
 
 I'm sure there many more things that he is doing, but I can't remember
 them.  I'll list them when I remember them.
 
 I think I have listed enough reasons to dislike him, even to hate him. 
 And I think I have enough cause to hope he gets removed from office soon,
 by any means necessary.

And with the possible exception of the arsenic thing, what of this is
different from Clinton? Or Gore?
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Re: [freenet-chat] Re: David and Aaron!

2001-05-11 Thread frankg

Quoting Tavin Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 02:06:26PM -0400, frankg wrote:
  Quoting Tavin Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:43:04PM -0400, frankg wrote:
Remember the kid on the dev list who tried to remove the
pedophile
picture test.jpg with htl 1 attacks? Tavin Cole had problems with
him
try removing pedophile pictures.
   
Then we see Tavin talking about Think Cash, a way to prevent
spammers
from posting to Freenet. I know spammers are worse than
pedophiles,
but... nah that isn't censorship. Nah.
   
We all love censorship.
  
   Excuse me, but where do you get off misconstruing my statements,
out of
   context, in an argument that I am completely uninvolved in?
  
 
  Everything I said was true. What did I take out of context?
  I was making the point that everyone loves censorship in one
  form or another. You're an excellent example that came to mind.

 I once expressed irritation with some of Mr. Todd's activities.  I
never
 said I had problems with him try removing pedophile pictures (sic).

 I have discussed think cash on the list.  How do you get from there to
 saying I'm advocating censorship?

  You have a problem with me talking about things you have said
  on a public mailing list?

 No, but civility recommends that you not misquote me, nor draw
ungrounded
 conclusions, nor make unpleasant insinuations about my character.

 --


I didn't quote you so I couldn't have misquoted you. I explained
that you 'had problems with him trying to remove...' , and it was true. 

Go look at that thread and you will see the 'activities' you were
irritated about were in fact trying to remove test.jpg which he said was
child porno and child porno was the only thing he was trying to remove. 

It was a sensational example and I didn't mean to imply anything about
your character. I appologize.

The purpose of think cash is to censor spammers. It is not a big leap.
Censorship is censorship and it is good.



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Re: [freenet-chat] Re: David and Aaron!

2001-05-11 Thread Tavin Cole

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 03:40:36PM -0400, frankg wrote:
 Quoting Tavin Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 02:06:26PM -0400, frankg wrote:
   Quoting Tavin Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:43:04PM -0400, frankg wrote:
 Remember the kid on the dev list who tried to remove the
 pedophile
 picture test.jpg with htl 1 attacks? Tavin Cole had problems with
 him
 try removing pedophile pictures.

 Then we see Tavin talking about Think Cash, a way to prevent
 spammers
 from posting to Freenet. I know spammers are worse than
 pedophiles,
 but... nah that isn't censorship. Nah.

 We all love censorship.
   
Excuse me, but where do you get off misconstruing my statements,
 out of
context, in an argument that I am completely uninvolved in?
   
  
   Everything I said was true. What did I take out of context?
   I was making the point that everyone loves censorship in one
   form or another. You're an excellent example that came to mind.
 
  I once expressed irritation with some of Mr. Todd's activities.  I
 never
  said I had problems with him try removing pedophile pictures (sic).
 
  I have discussed think cash on the list.  How do you get from there to
  saying I'm advocating censorship?
 
   You have a problem with me talking about things you have said
   on a public mailing list?
 
  No, but civility recommends that you not misquote me, nor draw
 ungrounded
  conclusions, nor make unpleasant insinuations about my character.
 
  --
 
 
 I didn't quote you so I couldn't have misquoted you. I explained
 that you 'had problems with him trying to remove...' , and it was true. 
 
 Go look at that thread and you will see the 'activities' you were
 irritated about were in fact trying to remove test.jpg which he said was
 child porno and child porno was the only thing he was trying to remove. 

Actually, what irritated me was the fproxy web bugs he was distributing.
Someone had posted a rather obfuscated message about it and I followed a
link to see what they were talking about, and realized I'd just managed
to get my I.P. address on a shit list of alleged pedophiles.  Wonderful.

As for the replacement attack on test.jpg, I must say that I don't agree
with the approach of artificially concealing the evils of our society.

However, your recent retelling of this was indeed sensationalized and
rather libelous as far as the implicit accusation of pedophilia.  I
think the exploitation of children is terrible, thank you very much.

 It was a sensational example and I didn't mean to imply anything about
 your character. I appologize.

Thank you.

 The purpose of think cash is to censor spammers. It is not a big leap.
 Censorship is censorship and it is good.

I don't think you can really equate the effort to protect one's electronic
mailbox from spam with the abrogation of an individual's rights to free
speech.  Think cash doesn't even stop posts, it justs slows them down.
Completely blocking someone from posting messages to a public forum would
be censorship.

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Re: [freenet-chat] Re: David and Aaron!

2001-05-11 Thread frankg

Quoting Tavin Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  The purpose of think cash is to censor spammers. It is not a big
leap.
  Censorship is censorship and it is good.

 I don't think you can really equate the effort to protect one's
electronic
 mailbox from spam with the abrogation of an individual's rights to free
 speech.  Think cash doesn't even stop posts, it justs slows them down.
 Completely blocking someone from posting messages to a public forum
would
 be censorship.


I used the words censorship and spammer. Think cash will stop
spammers by not allowing them to post information automatically.

I applaud you for attempting to censor spammers. You rock. Screw the bad
guys. Some censorship is good, like think cash.

When your flight gets delayed because somebody wants to exercise
their individual rights by joking they have a bomb in their coat
don't you wish they were censorsed or punished for that free 
speech?

Stop answering these emails and go code. You are good at that.


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Re: [freenet-chat] Re: David and Aaron!

2001-05-11 Thread Tavin Cole

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:21:58PM -0400, frankg wrote:
 Quoting Tavin Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Actually, what irritated me was the fproxy web bugs he was
 distributing.
  Someone had posted a rather obfuscated message about it and I followed
 a
  link to see what they were talking about, and realized I'd just managed
  to get my I.P. address on a shit list of alleged pedophiles. 
 Wonderful.
 
 
 
 The post I have mentioned every time so far involved test.jpg, child
 porno. If you were talking about web bugs, you sure didn't show
 it by replying to this message:

What are you trying to prove with this?  In any case you will note
my reply did not specifically mention anything about test.jpg, therefore
the most you can say is it is unclear what I was referring to.  I am
very sorry if anyone interpreted this as some kind of defense of
child exploitation.  I hope I have adequately explained the actual
nature of my commentary.

Why are you so concerned with people restraining their comments so as
not to incriminate freenetproject, while you're not concerned with
ensuring the accuracy of your own statements so as not to slander
a project volunteer?


 Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 04:36:44 -0400
 From: Tavin Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] Flaw Exposed
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 11:58:30PM -0400, Peter Todd wrote:
  I'm thinking of running this attack against test.jpg (!@#$ childporn,
  as a *test* key? makes us look real bad) It should work. If it does
  any other keys you want dead? test.html might be a good target, again
  makes us look bad. (hey Freenet is anarchy, use a SSK)
 
 
 I'm personally a little irritated with you appointing yourself the
 policeman of Freenet.  Censorship and monitoring sucks, period.
 
 just my humble $.02.  no offense meant.

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Re: [freenet-chat] PGP signatures

2001-05-11 Thread Leo Howell

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:30:46AM -0700, Aaron P Ingebrigtsen wrote:
 Could people just kind of post thier PGP signatures here?  It would
 be nice to have a list of everyone's PGP signatures under one
 subject.  Or you could just put your PGP signature on all your
 messages. :)

Umm, what would we be signing if we posted pgp sigs here? Do you mean
public keys?

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Re: [freenet-chat] Re: David and Aaron!

2001-05-11 Thread frankg

Quoting Tavin Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:21:58PM -0400, frankg wrote:
  Quoting Tavin Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
   Actually, what irritated me was the fproxy web bugs he was
  distributing.
   Someone had posted a rather obfuscated message about it and I
followed
  a
   link to see what they were talking about, and realized I'd just
managed
   to get my I.P. address on a shit list of alleged pedophiles.
  Wonderful.
  
 
 
  The post I have mentioned every time so far involved test.jpg, child
  porno. If you were talking about web bugs, you sure didn't show
  it by replying to this message:

 What are you trying to prove with this?  In any case you will note
 my reply did not specifically mention anything about test.jpg,
therefore
 the most you can say is it is unclear what I was referring to.  I am
 very sorry if anyone interpreted this as some kind of defense of
 child exploitation.  I hope I have adequately explained the actual
 nature of my commentary.

 Why are you so concerned with people restraining their comments so as
 not to incriminate freenetproject, while you're not concerned with
 ensuring the accuracy of your own statements so as not to slander
 a project volunteer?


I'm trying to prove that I didn't slander you.
I quoted you one time. Everything I said was 100% accurate.
You replied to a post about removing child pornography
by responding 'Censorship and monitoring sucks, period.'

I congratulate Mr. Todd for trying to remove child pornograpy.


  Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 04:36:44 -0400
  From: Tavin Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] Flaw Exposed
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 11:58:30PM -0400, Peter Todd wrote:
   I'm thinking of running this attack against test.jpg (!@#$
childporn,
   as a *test* key? makes us look real bad) It should work. If it does
   any other keys you want dead? test.html might be a good target,
again
   makes us look bad. (hey Freenet is anarchy, use a SSK)
 
 
  I'm personally a little irritated with you appointing yourself the
  policeman of Freenet.  Censorship and monitoring sucks, period.
 
  just my humble $.02.  no offense meant.

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Re: [freenet-chat] Re: David and Aaron!

2001-05-11 Thread Tavin Cole

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:57:50PM -0400, frankg wrote:
  What are you trying to prove with this?  In any case you will note
  my reply did not specifically mention anything about test.jpg,
 therefore
  the most you can say is it is unclear what I was referring to.  I am
  very sorry if anyone interpreted this as some kind of defense of
  child exploitation.  I hope I have adequately explained the actual
  nature of my commentary.
 
  Why are you so concerned with people restraining their comments so as
  not to incriminate freenetproject, while you're not concerned with
  ensuring the accuracy of your own statements so as not to slander
  a project volunteer?
 
 
 I'm trying to prove that I didn't slander you.
 I quoted you one time. Everything I said was 100% accurate.

No, it wasn't.

 You replied to a post about removing child pornography
 by responding 'Censorship and monitoring sucks, period.'

That is true, but it's not what you said the first time.

 I congratulate Mr. Todd for trying to remove child pornograpy.

Yea.. if I was going to support censorship at all I'd support that.

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Re: [freenet-chat] David and Aaron!

2001-05-11 Thread Greg Wooledge

Aaron P Ingebrigtsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 As for advertiseing pirated software on a public email list, that is a
 risk the advertiser takes.  We all know this.  By saying you have pirated
 software in public, you take the risk of being hunted down and punished
 by the government.  It is not your risk, nor freenet's, but David's and
 anyone else's who chooses to do what David did.

I don't recall that David actually said he had commited an act of
copyright infringement.  He merely posted a Freenet key, without claiming
that he had inserted that key.  For all we know, he might have stumbled
across it on one of the key indices.

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Re: [freenet-chat] PGP signatures

2001-05-11 Thread Greg Wooledge

Aaron P Ingebrigtsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 Could people just kind of post thier PGP signatures here?  It would
 be nice to have a list of everyone's PGP signatures under one
 subject.

*Why*?  That's what your public key ring is for!  (Not to mention the
public key servers)

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[freenet-chat] Can you help me?

2001-05-11 Thread Dinh Nguyen huy



I'm a student in Vietnam. I want to programming to play mp4 
format files. Can you help me about this ? Can you send me or talk me a url to 
download a source of mp4 player ? I'm programming with VB6. 
Please reply me soon.
Thank you,

Tran Quang Huy