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2002-01-30 Thread kre...@juno.com

On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 07:15:53 -0500 David T-G
 writes:

>   http://www.tfccs.com/
> 
> or
> 
>   http://www.spirituality.com/

Ok, I looked at tfccs, "The Church of Christ, Scientist", and read a
little about the theology and stuff.  But when I got to the part where
they explain why they use the word "Science", thats when I disconnected. 
I don't mean this as any kind of insult to anyone, but in my opinion
Christ was no scientist, and neither were most of the people on the
planet at the time.  My definition of Science is the use of LOGIC and
detailed analysis and experimentation to find answers to problems and
create new ways of doing things.  And in my opinion Religion in general
and Jesus Christ himself did not use Logic very much, and when they did
it was only very superficial.

I cannot accept the idea of Jesus Christ being a scientist and I cannot
accept the definition of Science that was given on that site, which is
the strict application of a set of rules, or laws.  Anyone can make rules
or laws and enforce them, but that doesn't mean it is a logical or
analytical process.

I'm a very analytical person, and even though I strugle with an emotional
handicap, I adhere to logic because it is the only thing that keeps me
sane.  If something doesn't make sense to ME, I can't work with it.  I
have to either try over and over again to find a way to MAKE it make
sense, or abandon it completely.

Again, I don't mean this as an insult to anyone, just my personal
reaction to two of the things that are most important in my life,
religion and logic.

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2002-01-30 Thread kre...@juno.com

On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 07:15:53 -0500 David T-G
 writes:

> % I don't know much, if anything, about Christian Science, but this 
> is
> 
> If you're interested in finding out, surf over to
> 
>   http://www.tfccs.com/
> 
> or
> 
>   http://www.spirituality.com/
> 
> and look around.

Hmm, I don't usualy trust mixtures of Religion, Politics and Science, I
think they all work best as totaly seperate entities.  However, I am
curious.  When I first heard about The Church of Scientology, I thought
it was a Christian Science thing.  A combination of Christian religious
beliefs and Scientific, logical, analytical ideas and ideals.  But I
found out that it claims that Christ was nothing but a brainwashed
trapped soul.  Grr!

I'll check out your websites.

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2002-01-30 Thread David McNab
To misappropriate George Orwell:
"If there is hope, it lies with the actuaries".

You can almost bless those cloistered mathematical priests of the
insurance companies. They're so morally neutral, and you can always
trust them to stick to the statistical tables of What Actually
Happens, as opposed to the prevailing politics of the day.

Actuaries will do *anything* to save their insurance employers a buck.
For example, the actuaries who now instruct their companies to charge
more for 'hacker' insurance if the client uses Windows than if they
use Linux.

DTG> As an added bonus, Christian Science treatment is covered under many
DTG> health insurance plans.

I don't know much, if anything, about Christian Science, but this is
probably the strongest endorsement of Christian Science that can be
got from the mainstream system at present.

David


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2002-01-30 Thread David T-G
David, et al --

...and then David McNab said...
% 
% To misappropriate George Orwell:
% "If there is hope, it lies with the actuaries".

*grin*


% 
% You can almost bless those cloistered mathematical priests of the
% insurance companies. They're so morally neutral, and you can always
% trust them to stick to the statistical tables of What Actually
% Happens, as opposed to the prevailing politics of the day.

Right.  Morally neutral and completely unemotional.  There are times when
it's good :-)


% 
% Actuaries will do *anything* to save their insurance employers a buck.
% For example, the actuaries who now instruct their companies to charge
% more for 'hacker' insurance if the client uses Windows than if they
% use Linux.

Absolutely.


% 
% DTG> As an added bonus, Christian Science treatment is covered under many
% DTG> health insurance plans.
% 
% I don't know much, if anything, about Christian Science, but this is

If you're interested in finding out, surf over to

  http://www.tfccs.com/

or

  http://www.spirituality.com/

and look around.


% probably the strongest endorsement of Christian Science that can be
% got from the mainstream system at present.

Heh.  Good point!


% 
% David


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