RE: [Chevelle-List] VIN #'s
My best guess is plant codes but could be some options. I'm not that up on the option codes, sorry. Dale Any idea what the numbers at the bottom are for? > ACC E 5V Thanks , Vernon - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] "Long" brand of shifters
Never used one but I've had a Hurst Comp Plus in my 67 for the past 16 years and except for an upgrade to the steel bushings 15 years ago, it's still as tight as ever. Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chevelle 69 > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:57 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Chevelle-List] "Long" brand of shifters > > > > Is anyone using the "Long" brand of shifters? I have heard many good > things about them, although finding them is harder than heck. Jegs > doesn't carry them and Summitt has stopped ..for some reason. > > I did finally find them at: > > http://www.g-forcetransmissions.com/shifter_4speeds.asp > > One thing they are not is cheap! But heard nothing but good about the > quality. Is anyone using them for street use? > > Steve > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] "Long" brand of shifters
Is anyone using the "Long" brand of shifters? I have heard many good things about them, although finding them is harder than heck. Jegs doesn't carry them and Summitt has stopped ..for some reason. I did finally find them at: http://www.g-forcetransmissions.com/shifter_4speeds.asp One thing they are not is cheap! But heard nothing but good about the quality. Is anyone using them for street use? Steve - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Headers
Anyone using Dyno-max coated headers on their big block? JEG's has a great price on them, but I am worried that I would be getting what I paid for :) How's the fit? Any troubles changing spark plugs? Any clearance problems or one pipe have to go over the frame as I have heard some do? Any recommendations on brand name ceramic coated headers and cost? Steve - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] looking for a straight answer
The best way to check is get the casting number off block in question and check it on the Mortec site.. there are definitely some casting numbers that can be either 2 or 4 bolt , 4 bolt being for the high HP version of the engine and 2 bolt for the low HP version..375hp sb a 4 boltFWIW - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] looking for a straight answer > In a message dated 8/13/2002 7:32:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Are 396 375hp all 4 bolt main blocks? Or did some come as 2bolts. I have > been told both. Just looking for clarification. > >> > All 375hp's were 4 bolt...a few 350hp's were also 4 bolt but mostly 2 bolt. > John, 67SS396 > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Vin #'s
Yes the colors are right. The title shows a 6cyl. Maybe just a mess up at the factory cause I don't see what it would help anyone to change one of them and not the other. Any idea what the numbers at the bottom are for? ACC E 5V Thanks , Vernon - Original Message - From: "396guy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 8:10 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Vin #'s > Your book matches what GM says. Looks like a foul-up on one or the other; > the trim tag does show beige paint and medium fawn interior - sound right? > Many states' title have the VIN as well. Is it on the title? > > Dale McIntosh > ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold > 67 SS/67 Elky > http://www.dalesplace.com > http://www.team67.com > http://www.midwestchevelles.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of vmckague > > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:26 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Vin #'s > > > > > > The cowl tag is as follows > > 12A > > Style 64-5680 Body VN 3288 > > Trim 763 Paint 93-8 > > ACC E-5V > > In the book I have its says the number 5680 stands for 2-dr, Deluxe 8cyl. > > and the 2nd and third Vin numbers 55 says it stands for El Camino Deluxe > > 6cyl. The book I'm am using is Chevelle, Malibu and El Camino ID > > numbers by > > Car and parts Magazine. Vernon > > - Original Message - > > From: "rocky hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:00 PM > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Vin #'s > > > > > > > What numbers on the cowl tag make you think it's an 8 > > > cyl? the cowl tag does not show what kind of engine! > > > > > > Rocky Hill > > > > > > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Vin #'s
Your book matches what GM says. Looks like a foul-up on one or the other; the trim tag does show beige paint and medium fawn interior - sound right? Many states' title have the VIN as well. Is it on the title? Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of vmckague > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:26 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Vin #'s > > > The cowl tag is as follows > 12A > Style 64-5680 Body VN 3288 > Trim 763 Paint 93-8 > ACC E-5V > In the book I have its says the number 5680 stands for 2-dr, Deluxe 8cyl. > and the 2nd and third Vin numbers 55 says it stands for El Camino Deluxe > 6cyl. The book I'm am using is Chevelle, Malibu and El Camino ID > numbers by > Car and parts Magazine. Vernon > - Original Message - > From: "rocky hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Vin #'s > > > > What numbers on the cowl tag make you think it's an 8 > > cyl? the cowl tag does not show what kind of engine! > > > > Rocky Hill > > > > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Headers and spark plug wires
A matter of terms I suppose. Some mfgs list them as "straight" and some as "180". Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Emil Dusek > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 7:27 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Headers and spark plug wires > > > Hey guys, are you'll sure about your geometry? > > I've seen straight, 45 and 90 degree boots but never 135 > or 180 degree ones. 180 degree would be so extreme > that the boot would bend into a "U" shape. > > MSD wires/boots are bend-to-fit any angle you need. > > Emil Dusek:71 SS-502 > > 396guy wrote: > > > I've had the best luck with 135 degree boots with headers. > Some 90's will > > fit and some 180's will fit, but I haven't found 8 plugs yet > that will work > > with all 90's or all 180's. I have found that all 135 degree > angles will > > work. Personally, I like Taylor wires. They come in the 135 > degree boot > > and the plug boots are easy to grasp. > > > > Dale McIntosh > > ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold > > 67 SS/67 Elky > > http://www.dalesplace.com > > http://www.team67.com > > http://www.midwestchevelles.com > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Richard M. Pruett > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:19 PM > > > To: Chevelle-List > > > Subject: [Chevelle-List] Headers and spark plug wires > > > > > > > > > OK all, > > > I have installed my headers and it's time to start looking > > > for new spark > > > plug wires. I'm working on a '69 Chevelle 396 SS 4-speed and installed > > > Hooker comp headers part# 2455. I recall reading about 90 > degree and 135 > > > degree boots for the plugs and need some direction. Local > auto parts store > > > has a set of Accel 8.5 mm with straight and 90 degree boots > for about $75. > > > > > > Has anyone on the list used these? Any suggestions from any 396 guys? > > > > > > > > > - > > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] looking for a straight answer
In a message dated 8/13/2002 7:32:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Are 396 375hp all 4 bolt main blocks? Or did some come as 2bolts. I have been told both. Just looking for clarification. >> All 375hp's were 4 bolt...a few 350hp's were also 4 bolt but mostly 2 bolt. John, 67SS396 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Vin #'s
The cowl tag is as follows 12A Style 64-5680 Body VN 3288 Trim 763 Paint 93-8 ACC E-5V In the book I have its says the number 5680 stands for 2-dr, Deluxe 8cyl. and the 2nd and third Vin numbers 55 says it stands for El Camino Deluxe 6cyl. The book I'm am using is Chevelle, Malibu and El Camino ID numbers by Car and parts Magazine. Vernon - Original Message - From: "rocky hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Vin #'s > What numbers on the cowl tag make you think it's an 8 > cyl? the cowl tag does not show what kind of engine! > > Rocky Hill > > > > > = > A Man And His Chevelle, > It's A Beautiful Thing!! > > Mid America Chevelle Club #220 > Team Chevelle #1530 > MY66SS http://www.geocities.com/rocks66ss > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Headers and spark plug wires
Hey guys, are you'll sure about your geometry? I've seen straight, 45 and 90 degree boots but never 135 or 180 degree ones. 180 degree would be so extreme that the boot would bend into a "U" shape. MSD wires/boots are bend-to-fit any angle you need. Emil Dusek:71 SS-502 396guy wrote: > I've had the best luck with 135 degree boots with headers. Some 90's will > fit and some 180's will fit, but I haven't found 8 plugs yet that will work > with all 90's or all 180's. I have found that all 135 degree angles will > work. Personally, I like Taylor wires. They come in the 135 degree boot > and the plug boots are easy to grasp. > > Dale McIntosh > ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold > 67 SS/67 Elky > http://www.dalesplace.com > http://www.team67.com > http://www.midwestchevelles.com > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard M. Pruett > > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:19 PM > > To: Chevelle-List > > Subject: [Chevelle-List] Headers and spark plug wires > > > > > > OK all, > > I have installed my headers and it's time to start looking > > for new spark > > plug wires. I'm working on a '69 Chevelle 396 SS 4-speed and installed > > Hooker comp headers part# 2455. I recall reading about 90 degree and 135 > > degree boots for the plugs and need some direction. Local auto parts store > > has a set of Accel 8.5 mm with straight and 90 degree boots for about $75. > > > > Has anyone on the list used these? Any suggestions from any 396 guys? > > > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Headers and spark plug wires
I also have the MSD wires, they are rated the least resistance out there that I could find at the time. I like them & noticed a difference in response after putting on (maybe just in my head) but I'm pretty satisfied with them.
RE: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website
Yeah, but I workin' to solve that problem :*) Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan McIntosh > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website > > > Is there anything that Dale's site doesn't have?? > Dan McIntosh > 65 Malibu > > - Original Message - > From: "Wurzbacher, Lance" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 2:23 PM > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website > > > > thanks I thought about looking on Dale's site but didn't remember seeing > oil > > pump info there. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Craig A. Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:59 AM > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website > > > > > > Here's a start... > > > > http://www.team67.com/groups/group.001/oil_pump.htm > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wurzbacher, Lance > > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:39 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website > > > > > > Anybody know of a website where I can look up some gm part numbers? I'm > > trying to look up some oil pump numbers and find out they're > applications. > > The numbers are 3876868 & 3904826 > > > > TIA Lance > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website
http://www.team67.com/groups/group.001/oil_pump.htm The 3904826 is for 66-71 all special high performance big blocks w/mechanical cam. The 3876868 may be a superceding part number or a high performance option; the number doesn't show up in my parts book. Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wurzbacher, Lance > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:24 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website > > > thanks I thought about looking on Dale's site but didn't remember > seeing oil > pump info there. > >> > Anybody know of a website where I can look up some gm part numbers? I'm > trying to look up some oil pump numbers and find out they're applications. > The numbers are 3876868 & 3904826 > > TIA Lance > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Headers and spark plug wires
Hi Richard, I personally think you should stay away from Accel spark plug wires. I prefer MSD Super Conductor wires. They're rated at only 40 ohms per foot and you can get "bendable" boots allowing you to angle them for your specific needs. cYa- Herb Lumpp 1966 El Camino, LS6, 6 spd, Currie 9" ACES 3509, MCC 528 http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ - Original Message - From: "Richard M. Pruett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Chevelle-List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 4:18 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Headers and spark plug wires > OK all, > I have installed my headers and it's time to start looking for new spark > plug wires. I'm working on a '69 Chevelle 396 SS 4-speed and installed > Hooker comp headers part# 2455. I recall reading about 90 degree and 135 > degree boots for the plugs and need some direction. Local auto parts store > has a set of Accel 8.5 mm with straight and 90 degree boots for about $75. > > Has anyone on the list used these? Any suggestions from any 396 guys? > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Headers and spark plug wires
I've had the best luck with 135 degree boots with headers. Some 90's will fit and some 180's will fit, but I haven't found 8 plugs yet that will work with all 90's or all 180's. I have found that all 135 degree angles will work. Personally, I like Taylor wires. They come in the 135 degree boot and the plug boots are easy to grasp. Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard M. Pruett > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:19 PM > To: Chevelle-List > Subject: [Chevelle-List] Headers and spark plug wires > > > OK all, > I have installed my headers and it's time to start looking > for new spark > plug wires. I'm working on a '69 Chevelle 396 SS 4-speed and installed > Hooker comp headers part# 2455. I recall reading about 90 degree and 135 > degree boots for the plugs and need some direction. Local auto parts store > has a set of Accel 8.5 mm with straight and 90 degree boots for about $75. > > Has anyone on the list used these? Any suggestions from any 396 guys? > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Vin #'s
The model series will show if it was V8 or 6 but not what size V8 or 6. Example for a base '64 Elky, 45380 was a 6-cyl and 45480 was V8 - the Custom El Camino got a 45580 for a 6-cyl and 45680 for a V-8. The trim tag model series should match that portion of the VIN. Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of rocky hill > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:01 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Vin #'s > > > What numbers on the cowl tag make you think it's an 8 > cyl? the cowl tag does not show what kind of engine! > > Rocky Hill > > > > > = > A Man And His Chevelle, > It's A Beautiful Thing!! > > Mid America Chevelle Club #220 > Team Chevelle #1530 > MY66SS http://www.geocities.com/rocks66ss > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Restoration Parts (Best sources)
My brother & I recently placed an order for 7 items from OPG. While the order was billed correctly, 4 items shipped were wrong, & 1 wasn't shipped at all. In addition, the shipping address was incorrect, & the stuff traveled all over Tucson for several days before it was located & delivered. When Bruce called OPG to report the mistakes, the sales rep on the telephone insisted it was his fault & OPG had no responsibility to correct THEIR mistakes! That was over 6 wks. Ago & it still isn't resolved. JOE BANKS AZTECH TOOL CO. AZTECH MOLD & DIE STEEL 602-257-2300 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Spencer, Darrell Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 12:31 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject:[Chevelle-List] Restoration Parts (Best sources) I know this topic has been beat in the past, but I wanted to get a feel for where people are buying their parts and who's getting the best prices. I was in Huntington Beach, CA last week and was able to visit both Original Parts Group's and Classic Industries' showrooms. They both charge outrageous shipping rates and I though I might save some freight charges on some door panels. I ended up not getting the panels (although I picked up a few other odds and ends). Anyway, has anyone done a recent interior restoration and shopped around for the best prices? I've pretty much spent money at all the big ones over the years: Year One, Ausley's, Ted Williams, OPG, NPD. Are there any new kids on the block hungry for our business selling PUI stuff for less? I haven't shopped around lately and was hoping someone could share their recent experiences. I'm also looking for bumpers. Who's best for repro bumpers? Thanks in advance for any insight! Darrell Spencer Cave Creek, Arizona '70 BBC Malibu '66 SBC El Camino '75 BBC GMC 2WD 3/4 ton (cherry all original...dang I'm proud of that thing) - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website
It's true. Whenever I want to find something out, i go to dales site! :-) - Original Message - From: "Dan McIntosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website > Is there anything that Dale's site doesn't have?? > Dan McIntosh > 65 Malibu > > - Original Message - > From: "Wurzbacher, Lance" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 2:23 PM > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website > > > > thanks I thought about looking on Dale's site but didn't remember seeing > oil > > pump info there. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Craig A. Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:59 AM > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website > > > > > > Here's a start... > > > > http://www.team67.com/groups/group.001/oil_pump.htm > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wurzbacher, Lance > > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:39 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website > > > > > > Anybody know of a website where I can look up some gm part numbers? I'm > > trying to look up some oil pump numbers and find out they're applications. > > The numbers are 3876868 & 3904826 > > > > TIA Lance > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] A note on GM and their licensing
Sounds realistic enough! Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com - Original Message - From: Craig A. Ellis To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:58 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] A note on GM and their licensing Josh, I agree pretty much 100%. But I think a big part of the problem is the way these parts are manufactured. For example, let's say you've got a set of trim forming dies - one for each wheel lip molding. You send them out to a supplier in the stamping business - even a very good one like Cosma - and tell them to run 6,000 sets of trim. They mount the tools, feed in some material and start banging them out. They get to part number 4,869 and some dork closes the press with a screwdriver between the die set and destroys the left rear lip tool. The plant superintendent comes out, looks things over, and tells the operator to yank the tools and put them back on the rack until he can get the GM guy out there. So, they pull the tools and ship the 4,868 sets they've cranked out up to that point. A couple weeks later the GM guy shows up, eyeballs the tool and mentally figures it'll cost $275,000 to build a new one or $52,000 to fix the old one. Either number is out of line with the profitability of the part so they drop the set of rear lip moldings and continue to offer the fronts. I'm not saying this happened, I'm saying that the tooling is getting swapped in and out of presses constantly and that the operators make mistakes, tools get busted, or even suppliers tell GM that they don't want to run the tools anymore because GM is not ordering an economically feasible quantity. It's not that you can't make money on the part - heck, we'll pay just about any price they name. It's that the plant can not justify interrupting the flow of Toyota Camry bumper beams just to load the tooling to run 1500 Chevelle bumpers. And you're right - GM does not spend a lot of time looking for somebody to run the part - it's just too far outside the mainstream of their business. E [Craig A. Ellis] [Craig A. Ellis] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of NoNeckSent: Monday, August 12, 2002 7:31 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] A note on GM and their licensing Personally Craig, I don't see GM as being very supportive of our hobby. They continue the practice of discontinuing parts for our cars. Even worse, they will discontinue a part from a set of parts. For intance wheel opening moldings. They make fronts and discontinue the rears and vice versa. If they were truly interested in supporting our hobby, they would do some research and provide us with crucial VIN info for our cars and make a catalog of parts that are still available for our cars. To take it further, I believe they should bring back some or all of their parts for these cars and put the Taiwan reproduction buisinesses out of the game completely. I believe they have a hughe untapped resource that they fail to take advantage of. I don't know about you but I'd be willing to pay more money for parts that came from GM and fit and finish was correct, not just "GM Licensed". Not trying to argue with you, just giving my perspective. Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com - Original Message - From: Craig A. Ellis To: Chevelle (E-mail) Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 8:07 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] A note on GM and their licensing It is worth mentioning that GM is the largest corporation in the world. I'm not sure of the exact numbers, but I think we're talking about a $250 billion dollar organization. I think what happens is that small manufacturers and distributors are not even on their radar screen. GM does not have a whole lot of people assigned to the task of seeking out small companies infringing on their copyrights and patents. I'm not trying to start a bunch of hoopla here but we work with GM guys all day long. It is not a flawless company but there are a lot of very good people that work there. I'm just a bit reluctant to bash them for being GM. When the day is done, they flat out own the rights to every product they ever built. That they support our hobby at all is pretty remarkable - they sure don't make any money on it. Seriously - you're talking about maybe a few tens of millions of dollars at the absolute most in a company of 250 billion. It's like one one-hundreth of one percent. The only reason they bother with resto parts and crate engines and other stuff is because there are a bunch of gearheads in the company and, frankly,
[Chevelle-List] looking for a straight answer
Are 396 375hp all 4 bolt main blocks? Or did some come as 2bolts. I have been told both. Just looking for clarification. JD
Re: [Chevelle-List] Restoration Parts (Best sources)
Darrell, Try Muscle Factory. http://musclefact.com They have very well priced complete kits. Door panels (un-assembled) are priced $125.00 a set, includes front and back. They also offer alot of thing I haven't seen elsewhere. Hope it helps. Dan McIntosh 65 Malibu - Original Message - From: "Spencer, Darrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 3:30 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Restoration Parts (Best sources) > I know this topic has been beat in the past, but I wanted to get a feel for > where people are buying their parts and who's getting the best prices. > > I was in Huntington Beach, CA last week and was able to visit both Original > Parts Group's and Classic Industries' showrooms. They both charge > outrageous shipping rates and I though I might save some freight charges on > some door panels. I ended up not getting the panels (although I picked up a > few other odds and ends). > > Anyway, has anyone done a recent interior restoration and shopped around for > the best prices? I've pretty much spent money at all the big ones over the > years: Year One, Ausley's, Ted Williams, OPG, NPD. Are there any new kids > on the block hungry for our business selling PUI stuff for less? I haven't > shopped around lately and was hoping someone could share their recent > experiences. I'm also looking for bumpers. Who's best for repro bumpers? > > Thanks in advance for any insight! > > Darrell Spencer > Cave Creek, Arizona > '70 BBC Malibu > '66 SBC El Camino > '75 BBC GMC 2WD 3/4 ton (cherry all original...dang I'm proud of that thing) > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website
Is there anything that Dale's site doesn't have?? Dan McIntosh 65 Malibu - Original Message - From: "Wurzbacher, Lance" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 2:23 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website > thanks I thought about looking on Dale's site but didn't remember seeing oil > pump info there. > > -Original Message- > From: Craig A. Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:59 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website > > > Here's a start... > > http://www.team67.com/groups/group.001/oil_pump.htm > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wurzbacher, Lance > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:39 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website > > > Anybody know of a website where I can look up some gm part numbers? I'm > trying to look up some oil pump numbers and find out they're applications. > The numbers are 3876868 & 3904826 > > TIA Lance > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Headers and spark plug wires
OK all, I have installed my headers and it's time to start looking for new spark plug wires. I'm working on a '69 Chevelle 396 SS 4-speed and installed Hooker comp headers part# 2455. I recall reading about 90 degree and 135 degree boots for the plugs and need some direction. Local auto parts store has a set of Accel 8.5 mm with straight and 90 degree boots for about $75. Has anyone on the list used these? Any suggestions from any 396 guys? - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Vin #'s
What numbers on the cowl tag make you think it's an 8 cyl? the cowl tag does not show what kind of engine! Rocky Hill = A Man And His Chevelle, It's A Beautiful Thing!! Mid America Chevelle Club #220 Team Chevelle #1530 MY66SS http://www.geocities.com/rocks66ss __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Vin #'s
I have a 64 El Camino and have been checking out the numbers and have run in to a problem. On my vin number it says it came out with a 6 cyl and on the cowl tag it says 8 cyl. Any ideas. It doesn't look like either of them has been changed. Also on my cowl tag on the bottom line it says ACC E 5V. Are these some of the numbers that can't be identifed? Thanks Vernon ACES # 05503
Re: [Chevelle-List] Restoration Parts (Best sources)
Yeah... what John said! John and I both run similar businesses and we try to help eachother out when we can. We're in Southern California and try to offer the best prices and service available. Please check out our website at http://www.autoobsession.com/";>www.AutoObsession.com. In a message dated 8/13/02 12:39:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I guess I have to humbly throw my hat into the ring here. We have all the stuff you are talking about and try to keep the shipping vharges reasonable. We also make special deals on larger orders, especially for list members and/or repeat customers. We carry all the stuff you mentioned. I try not to advertise on the list, but since you asked... Check out Old Car Network - http://oldcarnetwork.com or call 718-349-9311 (or 7511 if 9311 is busy - you will get the voicemail if it's busy and we always return calls) Thanks, John Nasta >> Sincerely, Trevor Baker http://www.autoobsession.com/";>Auto Obsession 805-306-0795 Shop 805-660-2253 Cell To subscribe to our email group and be notified when we acquire more parts or parts cars, and to find out about upcoming shows and swap meets, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] A note on GM and their licensing
Josh, Couldn't have said it better myself. Dan McIntosh65 Malibu - Original Message - From: NoNeck To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] A note on GM and their licensing Personally Craig, I don't see GM as being very supportive of our hobby. They continue the practice of discontinuing parts for our cars. Even worse, they will discontinue a part from a set of parts. For intance wheel opening moldings. They make fronts and discontinue the rears and vice versa. If they were truly interested in supporting our hobby, they would do some research and provide us with crucial VIN info for our cars and make a catalog of parts that are still available for our cars. To take it further, I believe they should bring back some or all of their parts for these cars and put the Taiwan reproduction buisinesses out of the game completely. I believe they have a hughe untapped resource that they fail to take advantage of. I don't know about you but I'd be willing to pay more money for parts that came from GM and fit and finish was correct, not just "GM Licensed". Not trying to argue with you, just giving my perspective. Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com - Original Message - From: Craig A. Ellis To: Chevelle (E-mail) Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 8:07 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] A note on GM and their licensing It is worth mentioning that GM is the largest corporation in the world. I'm not sure of the exact numbers, but I think we're talking about a $250 billion dollar organization. I think what happens is that small manufacturers and distributors are not even on their radar screen. GM does not have a whole lot of people assigned to the task of seeking out small companies infringing on their copyrights and patents. I'm not trying to start a bunch of hoopla here but we work with GM guys all day long. It is not a flawless company but there are a lot of very good people that work there. I'm just a bit reluctant to bash them for being GM. When the day is done, they flat out own the rights to every product they ever built. That they support our hobby at all is pretty remarkable - they sure don't make any money on it. Seriously - you're talking about maybe a few tens of millions of dollars at the absolute most in a company of 250 billion. It's like one one-hundreth of one percent. The only reason they bother with resto parts and crate engines and other stuff is because there are a bunch of gearheads in the company and, frankly, it helps them sell cars and trucks to the public. We need to hope that they never get an eco-freak car hater at the top because you can bet your last dollar it will all be over in the blink of an eye. CAE
[Chevelle-List] Austin TX. Cruising
Going to hit the streets of Austin this weekend. Anyone else on the List up to it. Skip 68SCBB - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] hi from Myrtle Beach!
Hey all just wanted to say howdy from the sandy beaches of SC! See yall when I get back JJ Fig - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Restoration Parts (Best sources)
I guess I have to humbly throw my hat into the ring here. We have all the stuff you are talking about and try to keep the shipping vharges reasonable. We also make special deals on larger orders, especially for list members and/or repeat customers. We carry all the stuff you mentioned. I try not to advertise on the list, but since you asked... Check out Old Car Network - http://oldcarnetwork.com or call 718-349-9311 (or 7511 if 9311 is busy - you will get the voicemail if it's busy and we always return calls) Thanks, John Nasta -Original Message- I know this topic has been beat in the past, but I wanted to get a feel for where people are buying their parts and who's getting the best prices. I was in Huntington Beach, CA last week and was able to visit both Original Parts Group's and Classic Industries' showrooms. They both charge outrageous shipping rates and I though I might save some freight charges on some door panels. I ended up not getting the panels (although I picked up a few other odds and ends). Anyway, has anyone done a recent interior restoration and shopped around for the best prices? I've pretty much spent money at all the big ones over the years: Year One, Ausley's, Ted Williams, OPG, NPD. Are there any new kids on the block hungry for our business selling PUI stuff for less? I haven't shopped around lately and was hoping someone could share their recent experiences. I'm also looking for bumpers. Who's best for repro bumpers? Thanks in advance for any insight! Darrell Spencer Cave Creek, Arizona '70 BBC Malibu '66 SBC El Camino '75 BBC GMC 2WD 3/4 ton (cherry all original...dang I'm proud of that thing) - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Restoration Parts (Best sources)
I know this topic has been beat in the past, but I wanted to get a feel for where people are buying their parts and who's getting the best prices. I was in Huntington Beach, CA last week and was able to visit both Original Parts Group's and Classic Industries' showrooms. They both charge outrageous shipping rates and I though I might save some freight charges on some door panels. I ended up not getting the panels (although I picked up a few other odds and ends). Anyway, has anyone done a recent interior restoration and shopped around for the best prices? I've pretty much spent money at all the big ones over the years: Year One, Ausley's, Ted Williams, OPG, NPD. Are there any new kids on the block hungry for our business selling PUI stuff for less? I haven't shopped around lately and was hoping someone could share their recent experiences. I'm also looking for bumpers. Who's best for repro bumpers? Thanks in advance for any insight! Darrell Spencer Cave Creek, Arizona '70 BBC Malibu '66 SBC El Camino '75 BBC GMC 2WD 3/4 ton (cherry all original...dang I'm proud of that thing) - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website
Lance, Try this site: www.gmpartsdirect.com Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) ACES #5102 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website
thanks I thought about looking on Dale's site but didn't remember seeing oil pump info there. -Original Message- From: Craig A. Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:59 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website Here's a start... http://www.team67.com/groups/group.001/oil_pump.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wurzbacher, Lance Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website Anybody know of a website where I can look up some gm part numbers? I'm trying to look up some oil pump numbers and find out they're applications. The numbers are 3876868 & 3904826 TIA Lance - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Power steering leak
Rich, I would gladly have one, not that I'm planning a rebuild soon, but nobody knows. Kind Regards André - Original Message - From: Richard Milkiewicz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 5:57 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Power steering leak While looking for an article on clutch vibrations I ran across an article on rebuilding the steering box. The whole 9 yards. Pictures and text. I'll scan it if anyone is interested. I'll scan in paint. Smaller file and everyone should be able to open it. Send your E-mail address to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rich
RE: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website
Here's a start... http://www.team67.com/groups/group.001/oil_pump.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wurzbacher, Lance Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website Anybody know of a website where I can look up some gm part numbers? I'm trying to look up some oil pump numbers and find out they're applications. The numbers are 3876868 & 3904826 TIA Lance - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Chevrolet part numbers website
Anybody know of a website where I can look up some gm part numbers? I'm trying to look up some oil pump numbers and find out they're applications. The numbers are 3876868 & 3904826 TIA Lance - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Driveline vibes, baaaad vibes.
Thanks, Herb. Jim V. at Dynotech instructed me as follows: Install the driveshaft and with the car at ride height disconnect at the rear u joint and push the shaft as far into the trans as it will go. Mark the splined shaft at the trans at then pull it back until the u joint seats. measure the amount that it withdrew from the trans and if it is less than 3/4" the shaft is too long, if more than 1" it is too short. BTW, he confirmed that too long a driveshaft will cause a serious vibration at speed. Craig -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Herbert Lumpp Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 10:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Driveline vibes, bd vibes. Go to this link and it has instructions on how to properly measure for a driveshaft. There are three choices so you'll have to look at all three to decide which set of instructions apply to your setup. http://www.dennysdriveshaft.com/html/how_to_measure.html cYa- Herb Lumpp 1966 El Camino, LS6, 6 spd, Currie 9" ACES 3509, MCC 528 http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ > Excellent suggestion. I just called my mechanic and he's pulling the shaft > right now and taking to CCI in the morning. The question of the moment is: > What is the CORRECT length of the driveshaft for a 1970 Chevelle SS, 396, > M21??? IF anyone knows, it sure would be a huge help to me. Also, where do > you take the measurement? > > You know, it is just possible that sometime in this car's life the wrong > driveshaft was installed and that the NEW driveshaft was made to the same > length - thus, BOTH are wrong... > > Thanks - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] A note on GM and their licensing
At 11:58 AM 08/13/2002 -0400, you wrote: >price they name. It's that the plant can not justify interrupting the flow >of Toyota Camry bumper beams just to load the tooling to run 1500 Chevelle >bumpers. Yep, & we all know how those Toy-YO-YO's go through bumper's . In Dallas they play ping-pong with each other on the freeways. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] A note on GM and their licensing
Josh, I agree pretty much 100%. But I think a big part of the problem is the way these parts are manufactured. For example, let's say you've got a set of trim forming dies - one for each wheel lip molding. You send them out to a supplier in the stamping business - even a very good one like Cosma - and tell them to run 6,000 sets of trim. They mount the tools, feed in some material and start banging them out. They get to part number 4,869 and some dork closes the press with a screwdriver between the die set and destroys the left rear lip tool. The plant superintendent comes out, looks things over, and tells the operator to yank the tools and put them back on the rack until he can get the GM guy out there. So, they pull the tools and ship the 4,868 sets they've cranked out up to that point. A couple weeks later the GM guy shows up, eyeballs the tool and mentally figures it'll cost $275,000 to build a new one or $52,000 to fix the old one. Either number is out of line with the profitability of the part so they drop the set of rear lip moldings and continue to offer the fronts. I'm not saying this happened, I'm saying that the tooling is getting swapped in and out of presses constantly and that the operators make mistakes, tools get busted, or even suppliers tell GM that they don't want to run the tools anymore because GM is not ordering an economically feasible quantity. It's not that you can't make money on the part - heck, we'll pay just about any price they name. It's that the plant can not justify interrupting the flow of Toyota Camry bumper beams just to load the tooling to run 1500 Chevelle bumpers. And you're right - GM does not spend a lot of time looking for somebody to run the part - it's just too far outside the mainstream of their business. E [Craig A. Ellis] [Craig A. Ellis] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of NoNeckSent: Monday, August 12, 2002 7:31 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] A note on GM and their licensing Personally Craig, I don't see GM as being very supportive of our hobby. They continue the practice of discontinuing parts for our cars. Even worse, they will discontinue a part from a set of parts. For intance wheel opening moldings. They make fronts and discontinue the rears and vice versa. If they were truly interested in supporting our hobby, they would do some research and provide us with crucial VIN info for our cars and make a catalog of parts that are still available for our cars. To take it further, I believe they should bring back some or all of their parts for these cars and put the Taiwan reproduction buisinesses out of the game completely. I believe they have a hughe untapped resource that they fail to take advantage of. I don't know about you but I'd be willing to pay more money for parts that came from GM and fit and finish was correct, not just "GM Licensed". Not trying to argue with you, just giving my perspective. Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com - Original Message - From: Craig A. Ellis To: Chevelle (E-mail) Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 8:07 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] A note on GM and their licensing It is worth mentioning that GM is the largest corporation in the world. I'm not sure of the exact numbers, but I think we're talking about a $250 billion dollar organization. I think what happens is that small manufacturers and distributors are not even on their radar screen. GM does not have a whole lot of people assigned to the task of seeking out small companies infringing on their copyrights and patents. I'm not trying to start a bunch of hoopla here but we work with GM guys all day long. It is not a flawless company but there are a lot of very good people that work there. I'm just a bit reluctant to bash them for being GM. When the day is done, they flat out own the rights to every product they ever built. That they support our hobby at all is pretty remarkable - they sure don't make any money on it. Seriously - you're talking about maybe a few tens of millions of dollars at the absolute most in a company of 250 billion. It's like one one-hundreth of one percent. The only reason they bother with resto parts and crate engines and other stuff is because there are a bunch of gearheads in the company and, frankly, it helps them sell cars and trucks to the public. We need to hope that they never get an eco-freak car hater at the top because you can bet your last dollar it will all be over in the blink of an eye. CAE
[Chevelle-List] Power steering leak
While looking for an article on clutch vibrations I ran across an article on rebuilding the steering box. The whole 9 yards. Pictures and text. I'll scan it if anyone is interested. I'll scan in paint. Smaller file and everyone should be able to open it. Send your E-mail address to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rich
Re: [Chevelle-List] Driveline vibes, baaaad vibes.
Craig, sorry, I'm not able to find the article on the clutch vibration. But like you, this guy changed his whole drive line and still had bad vibes. The article dealt with the whole clutch. Linkage to the pressure plate. Long story short, he replaced the pressure plate and clutch disc. No more vibration. I'm going as a spectator because my ride is a least a year away from being finished. In the morning I'll be at 12 mile and Woodward, north side of Woodward. I have a friend who is parking there with his wife. She bought my Nova and he has a 36 Chevy. Biggest mistake I ever made was selling that Nova. The Nova will be there and I want to see it again so I can get sick. Rich - Original Message - From: Craig A. Ellis To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 11:13 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Driveline vibes, bd vibes. Rich, I'm keen to see the article. U-joints are new and we've had them apart three times. In fact, I've got the car sitting on the alignment hoist of a friends garage right now with the driveshaft out and on it's way to CCI to make sure it's true & perfectly balanced. They built it, BTW, and insisted I replace the pinion flange. No change when the flange went in except the car was lighter by $200... Why as a spectator? If I can get this car squared away, I'm going down there Wednesday night - much nicer cruise than the Tokyo subway conditions on Saturday. Craig -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard MilkiewiczSent: Monday, August 12, 2002 11:48 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Driveline vibes, bd vibes. Craig, I read in CAR CRAFT one time that this can be caused by the clutch. I'll try and find the article. Have you checked the U joints? May have a cracked one. I'll be at the cruise, but as a spectator this year. :o( Rich"66 MalibuACES # 5066 - Original Message - From: Craig A. Ellis To: Chevelle (E-mail) Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 9:46 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Driveline vibes, bd vibes. I have what feels like a driveline vibration that comes in about 45 miles per hour and increases in intensity until about 65 MPH when you're actually going so fast that the frequency becomes so rapid it seems to go away. I don't think it actually goes away, just feels not-so-bad, if you know what I mean. It is not engine RPM related - it occurs in second, third or fourth at the same speed and continues if you disengage the clutch and put the trans in neutral. So, it is not engine balance related. I have new Moser axles, US Gear ring & pinion (3.42), new posi clutch pack, new pinion flange, new driveshaft and it has done the exact same thing with two completely different sets of tires and wheels. Also, it is not in the front end. I'm really at a loss here - the Detroit Dreamcruise is spooling up to max output right now and I can't motor down the highway. (By the way, the cruising is so heavy every night this week that the police will shut Woodward Avenue down on some nights. On Saturday, you're talking a million spectators minimum. It is said to be the largest motorsports event in the world, bar none, and it's all muscle cars, hotrods, and other gearhead doodah.) If anyone has any ideas, I am sure enough ready to listen. Craig E.
Re: [Chevelle-List] Driveline vibes, baaaad vibes.
Not to bad mouth a product line. but freind put in Hays clutch and preasure platw in his BB 71 El-Camino. On the frist test drive it felt as if you were sitting on a washing machine in spin cycle with only 3 out of 4 legs on. replaced the Drive shaft- bad vibes replaces the trans M21- bad vibes bought anothe clutch disj and preasure plate- Centerforce problem went AWAY.. It took him about 6 weeks for the jober to get feed back from Hays that it was out of " there balance specifacation", - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Driveline vibes, bd vibes. > I had a new Hays clutch and pressure plate in my 67 that gave me vibration at > over 3400rpm. Turns out the unit was out of balance from the factory. > Something to think about. John,67SS396 http//www.geocities.com/grepr > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
