Re: [Chevelle-List] '69 El Camino photos
clint, thats a sweet ride ! Kind Regards André - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 8:24 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] '69 El Camino photos I emailed some photos of my 69 Elky to Dale McIntosh. Thanks for the help,Dale. Clint HooperLT5 Registry DirectorWichita Falls,Tx(940) 855-6636'91 ZR-1 Callaway AerobodyTX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.net/'69 El Camino Pro Street
Re: [Chevelle-List] T-56 + BB
Great looking elky Clint! Don Clint's 68 can be seen at http://www.dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm directly or http://www.dalesplace.com Friends Cars Clint Hooper. Dale McIntosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 5:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] T-56 + BB How much would a Tremec 5spd trans cost me,Mike? Is its 5th gear an OD gear or 1:1? Does it use the same type of shifter set-up as the T56? Sorry for asking so many questions but I'm really interested in using one of these behind a 502. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - Original Message - From: Michael Pell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sure, there is a GM Aftermarket T56 available for about $1976.00. It'll bolt right up to your GM bellhousing, use your clutch components (fork, linkages, 26 spline clutch, bearings, etc)! It has a 0.62 6th, is rated at 400 ft/lbs. The 6 speeds typically require more tunnel surgery, as it's a larger transmission. And the shifter location is 5-7 rearward of the Muncie shifter location. The TREMEC 5sp is rated higher at up to 525 ft/lbs,and will fit in the '68 and new GM cars without much, or any, tunnel work. The shifter is 2.75 rearward of the Muncie shifter. The 5speeds are raced regularly, drag and road racing, but I've not heard of too many 6speeds being raced. The point being that the 5sp will likely last longer behind a BB. Mike - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bed cover - was RE: [Chevelle-List] T-56 + BB
How do you like that bed cover? Does it require any hardware to be attached to the car? I want to get one but I don't want anything that requires me to drill holes. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dale McIntosh Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 11:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] T-56 + BB Clint's 68 can be seen at http://www.dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm directly or http://www.dalesplace.com Friends Cars Clint Hooper. Dale McIntosh - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Jack Stand Safety
Good point about never working under the car alone. Although if the car does fall on you, having somebody else there to watch is not necessarily going to save your life. Also, the cheapo jack stands have a triangular base and are made of bent sheet metal. Those things are an accident waiting to happen. Good jack stands have a rectangular base and are made of cast iron. I had my El Camino on 4 (good quality) jack stands for two years and there was no problem to have it sitting there. I didnt work under it though w/o putting a good hydraulic floor jack near where I was working as a failsafe. There's no such thing as being too careful in this situation. John Nasta -Original Message- john: i really think the jackstand we had as kids 30 + years ago were POS. the new style are far superior to the old ones. personally if I'm under the car i jack up the car high enough to put blocks (4 x 12 about 12 inches long) under the tires. i put as many as i need (4 x being 3 1/2 inches) and then i let the car down on jack stands just to the point where there is a load on the stands and the tires wont turn. Do not jack car up too high. I then feel pretty safe. 1) NEVER WORK UNDER A CAR ALONE! Larry (Z)
Re: [Chevelle-List] '69 El Camino photos
Can I have some pics too Clint? Thanks. cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 11:24 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] '69 El Camino photos I emailed some photos of my 69 Elky to Dale McIntosh. Thanks for the help,Dale. Clint HooperLT5 Registry DirectorWichita Falls,Tx(940) 855-6636'91 ZR-1 Callaway AerobodyTX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.net/'69 El Camino Pro Street
RE: [Chevelle-List] Jack Stand Safety
Thanks to everyone for their advice and tips on this. The four jack stand situation just didn't seem safe to me, and now I'll take steps to make sure the work safe. Tom Tomlinson -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John NastaSent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 8:54 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Jack Stand Safety Good point about never working under the car alone. Although if the car does fall on you, having somebody else there to watch is not necessarily going to save your life. Also, the cheapo jack stands have a triangular base and are made of bent sheet metal. Those things are an accident waiting to happen. Good jack stands have a rectangular base and are made of cast iron. I had my El Camino on 4 (good quality) jack stands for two years and there was no problem to have it sitting there. I didnt work under it though w/o putting a good hydraulic floor jack near where I was working as a failsafe. There's no such thing as being too careful in this situation. John Nasta -Original Message- john: i really think the jackstand we had as kids 30 + years ago were POS. the new style are far superior to the old ones. personally if I'm under the car i jack up the car high enough to put blocks (4 x 12 about 12 inches long) under the tires. i put as many as i need (4 x being 3 1/2 inches) and then i let the car down on jack stands just to the point where there is a load on the stands and the tires wont turn. Do not jack car up too high. I then feel pretty safe. 1) NEVER WORK UNDER A CAR ALONE! Larry (Z)
Re: [Chevelle-List] Jack Stand Safety
pussys :-)
Re: [Chevelle-List] Jack Stand Safety
guys, I apologize for the last email, i dont know what just happened, but I was trying to send an email to a friend of mine and the chevelle list email address came up. thats AOL for ya, please disregard this. THIS WAS NOT MEANT TO GO TO THE CHEVELLE LIST AND HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS THREAD
Re: [Chevelle-List] Jack Stand Safety
At my job,we use jack stands and short sections of railroad ties(12" long or so) to chock and block equipment. Clint HooperLT5 Registry DirectorWichita Falls,Tx(940) 855-6636'91 ZR-1 Callaway AerobodyTX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.net/'69 El Camino Pro Street - Original Message - From: John Nasta An object falls when its center of gravity exceeds its base. The problem with jack stands is that they have a very small base, and by raising the car onto 4 jack stands, you are raising the center of gravity AND putting it on a smaller base at the same time. Also, jack stands will sink into things like asphalt, causing the weight to shift. You can get away with it if it is a level cement surface. My El Camino was on 4 jack stands for 2 years. During that time, I never got under it. It was really only on stands because the tires did not hold air and I didn't want the aluminum rims to be supporting the car for that long. Putting the front on a good set of ramps and the back on stands is MUCH safer. When I was a teenager, a guy a couple of blocks away was killed because he was under his car while it was on 4 jack stands. Sure, you might be able to get away with it, but the price you pay if it doesn't work out is way too high. I would recommend that you get a good set of heavy-duty ramps with removable inclines, and one set of jack stands. JMO, John Nasta
Re: [Chevelle-List] T-56 + BB
Most of you have probably seen my old 68 Pro Tourer that I was still building when sold. I have some photos of my new 69 pro streeter,if anyone wants to see that one. Dial-up connections be aware though,the photos are pretty large. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - Original Message - From: Dale McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clint's 68 can be seen at http://www.dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm directly or http://www.dalesplace.com Friends Cars Clint Hooper. Dale McIntosh - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Re: Bed cover
I haven't picked up the car yet,John,so I cannot answer your question. Going to get it,Wednesday. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] How do you like that bed cover? Does it require any hardware to be attached to the car? I want to get one but I don't want anything that requires me to drill holes. John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Re: Bed cover
the only bed cover i have seen that does not require drilling is a velcro attached cover in the opg catolog.not sure if it will stay put at 75mph jason pollock On Sunday, December 1, 2002, at 10:39 AM, Clint Hooper wrote: I haven't picked up the car yet,John,so I cannot answer your question. Going to get it,Wednesday. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] How do you like that bed cover? Does it require any hardware to be attached to the car? I want to get one but I don't want anything that requires me to drill holes. John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Jack Stand Safety
yea right!!! LOLOLOL!! sorry I just found it amusing. Ðäññÿ .. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Jack Stand Safety guys, I apologize for the last email, i dont know what just happened, but I was trying to send an email to a friend of mine and the chevelle list email address came up. thats AOL for ya, please disregard this. THIS WAS NOT MEANT TO GO TO THE CHEVELLE LIST AND HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS THREAD
Re: [Chevelle-List] Jack Stand Safety
That's really mature Jack. My boys views this. He already has enough bad examples in life without our society casting more of this. Smitty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Jack Stand Safety pussys :-)
Re: [Chevelle-List] Jack Stand Safety
Smitty, You must not of read the e-mail that followed that. Here it is: guys, I apologize for the last email, i dont know what just happened, but I was trying to send an email to a friend of mine and the chevelle list email address came up. thats AOL for ya, please disregard this. THIS WAS NOT MEANT TO GO TO THE CHEVELLE LIST AND HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS THREAD -Tim 1966 Chevelle
RE: [Chevelle-List] Jack Stand Safety
One more thought. If you do get a good set of ramps w/ removable inclines, it is a good idea to put the incline panels on the drivers' seat after removing them. That way you'll never sit down and attempt to back the car off the stands w/o the incline panels in place. It's a good way to remind yourself that they have to be put back before you move the car. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Tomlinson Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 12:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Jack Stand Safety Thanks to everyone for their advice and tips on this. The four jack stand situation just didn't seem safe to me, and now I'll take steps to make sure the work safe. Tom Tomlinson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 8:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Jack Stand Safety Good point about never working under the car alone. Although if the car does fall on you, having somebody else there to watch is not necessarily going to save your life. Also, the cheapo jack stands have a triangular base and are made of bent sheet metal. Those things are an accident waiting to happen. Good jack stands have a rectangular base and are made of cast iron. I had my El Camino on 4 (good quality) jack stands for two years and there was no problem to have it sitting there. I didnt work under it though w/o putting a good hydraulic floor jack near where I was working as a failsafe. There's no such thing as being too careful in this situation. John Nasta -Original Message- john: i really think the jackstand we had as kids 30 + years ago were POS. the new style are far superior to the old ones. personally if I'm under the car i jack up the car high enough to put blocks (4 x 12 about 12 inches long) under the tires. i put as many as i need (4 x being 3 1/2 inches) and then i let the car down on jack stands just to the point where there is a load on the stands and the tires wont turn. Do not jack car up too high. I then feel pretty safe. 1) NEVER WORK UNDER A CAR ALONE! Larry (Z)
Re: [Chevelle-List] T-56 + BB
Guess I need to do more reading on the website and quit asking questions. Sorry,Guys. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the link and info,Mike. I prefer that shifter design as it's like a T56 or ZF. Sounds like I need to check out the gear ratio availability on the TKO as a big block is in my car's future. What about crossmember or driveshaft mods? Do they use a larger yoke? I also assume speedo compatibility will not be a problem. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - Original Message - From: Michael Pell [EMAIL PROTECTED] See here for GM conversion package prices: http://www.5speedtransmissions.com./gm_3550_package.html Basically, the 5speed choices are $1675 $1975. The latter is the TKO rated at 525 ft/lbs. Yes, the 5sp is an OD with a .68 5th! Yes, similar toploader shifter as the T56. See pics here http://www.5speedtransmissions.com./pro50shifter.html Feel free to ask all the questions you want. :-) And be sure to remind me you're a TC member if you place an order for a discount. And feel free to contact me privately, or toll free at (866) 441-8699 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] T-56 + BB
I HATE looking at pictures of green living plants in December...it's just WRONG. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 7:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] T-56 + BB Great looking elky Clint! Don Clint's 68 can be seen at http://www.dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm directly or http://www.dalesplace.com Friends Cars Clint Hooper. Dale McIntosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 5:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] T-56 + BB How much would a Tremec 5spd trans cost me,Mike? Is its 5th gear an OD gear or 1:1? Does it use the same type of shifter set-up as the T56? Sorry for asking so many questions but I'm really interested in using one of these behind a 502. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - Original Message - From: Michael Pell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sure, there is a GM Aftermarket T56 available for about $1976.00. It'll bolt right up to your GM bellhousing, use your clutch components (fork, linkages, 26 spline clutch, bearings, etc)! It has a 0.62 6th, is rated at 400 ft/lbs. The 6 speeds typically require more tunnel surgery, as it's a larger transmission. And the shifter location is 5-7 rearward of the Muncie shifter location. The TREMEC 5sp is rated higher at up to 525 ft/lbs,and will fit in the '68 and new GM cars without much, or any, tunnel work. The shifter is 2.75 rearward of the Muncie shifter. The 5speeds are raced regularly, drag and road racing, but I've not heard of too many 6speeds being raced. The point being that the 5sp will likely last longer behind a BB. Mike - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Jack Stand Safety
Call me paranoid, but I use four jacksstands and double up with two more at the end of the car I working on and put the floor jack on the other end. E -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John NastaSent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 8:54 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Jack Stand Safety Good point about never working under the car alone. Although if the car does fall on you, having somebody else there to watch is not necessarily going to save your life. Also, the cheapo jack stands have a triangular base and are made of bent sheet metal. Those things are an accident waiting to happen. Good jack stands have a rectangular base and are made of cast iron. I had my El Camino on 4 (good quality) jack stands for two years and there was no problem to have it sitting there. I didnt work under it though w/o putting a good hydraulic floor jack near where I was working as a failsafe. There's no such thing as being too careful in this situation. John Nasta -Original Message- john: i really think the jackstand we had as kids 30 + years ago were POS. the new style are far superior to the old ones. personally if I'm under the car i jack up the car high enough to put blocks (4 x 12 about 12 inches long) under the tires. i put as many as i need (4 x being 3 1/2 inches) and then i let the car down on jack stands just to the point where there is a load on the stands and the tires wont turn. Do not jack car up too high. I then feel pretty safe. 1) NEVER WORK UNDER A CAR ALONE! Larry (Z)
Re: [Chevelle-List] T-56 +BB
Thanks,Dale. I didn't think the photos would be up so soon. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - Original Message - From: Dale McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did you click on the link or type the url? There's a space between ~clint~ and ~hooper~. I just checked both and worked like a champ. The OS shouldn't make any difference and should work with Netscape v4.7x and IE 5.x or higher. Dale McIntosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Smith Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] T-56 + BB High guy. I tried to view your site but could not access either of them. I use windows98 series, if that adds you. Smitty - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] T-56 + BB Most of you have probably seen my old 68 Pro Tourer that I was still building when sold. I have some photos of my new 69 pro streeter,if anyone wants to see that one. Dial-up connections be aware though,the photos are pretty large. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - Original Message - From: Dale McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clint's 68 can be seen at http://www.dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm directly or http://www.dalesplace.com Friends Cars Clint Hooper. Dale McIntosh - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] '69 El Camino photos
Clint, I just looked at the pictures you sent of your new Elky and I wanted to say congrats and let everyone that hasn't seen the pics, Clint found a sweet lookin' ride!!! cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 11:24 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] '69 El Camino photos I emailed some photos of my 69 Elky to Dale McIntosh. Thanks for the help,Dale. Clint HooperLT5 Registry DirectorWichita Falls,Tx(940) 855-6636'91 ZR-1 Callaway AerobodyTX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.net/'69 El Camino Pro Street
RE: [Chevelle-List] '69 El Camino photos
Where are these pics? I've only seen pics of a '68. John Nasta -Original Message- Clint, I just looked at the pictures you sent of your new Elky and I wanted to say congrats and let everyone that hasn't seen the pics, Clint found a sweet lookin' ride!!!
Re: [Chevelle-List] Jack Stand Safety
In a message dated 12/1/2002 3:59:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's really mature Jack. My boys views this. He already has enough bad examples in life without our society casting more of this. Smitty read the second email i sent immediatley after that. By no means would I ever consider a something to be a safety measure in that manner. That was a response to a personal email to a friend of mine and should not have been sent to the list. I plan on going back into my AOL address book and removing all of the addresses so this doesn't happen again. I still don't know how it happened. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] '69 El Camino photos
Thank you,Herb. Maybe I can end up with an Elky that's 1/2 as nice as your '66. Just wondering out loud but has anyone seen or read of a ProTourer with four link coilovers? I'm just wondering what mods,if any,I will have to make to convert this car to one. Clint HooperLT5 Registry DirectorWichita Falls,Tx(940) 855-6636'91 ZR-1 Callaway AerobodyTX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.net/'69 El Camino Pro Street - Original Message - From: Herbert Lumpp Clint, I just looked at the pictures you sent of your new Elky and I wanted to say congrats and let everyone know that hasn't seen the pics, Clint found a sweet lookin' ride!!! cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 11:24 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] '69 El Camino photos I emailed some photos of my 69 Elky to Dale McIntosh. Thanks for the help,Dale. Clint HooperLT5 Registry DirectorWichita Falls,Tx(940) 855-6636'91 ZR-1 Callaway AerobodyTX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.net/'69 El Camino Pro Street
[Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street
Here you go,John. http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] New GW parts...
I've been looking at those,Herb. Seems like the price was around $450. Clint HooperLT5 Registry DirectorWichita Falls,Tx(940) 855-6636'91 ZR-1 Callaway AerobodyTX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.net/'69 El Camino Pro Street - Original Message - From: Herbert Lumpp Has anyone seen the new lower control arms w/ coil-overs from Global West? http://www.globalwest.net/new%20tubular%20control%20arm%20for%20a-body.htm I remember a while back someone on the list wanted to convert their Chevelle to coil-overs, this kit might save a lot of work. cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
RE: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street
Thanks Clint. I did see the pics and it looks beautiful. The subject says it's a 69 but it's a 68. I thought I was not looking at the right pictures. John Nasta -Original Message- Here you go,John. http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street
It's a '69, John. It just has a '68 grille in it. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Clint. I did see the pics and it looks beautiful. The subject says it's a 69 but it's a 68. I thought I was not looking at the right pictures. John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street
Looks like it also has 68 headlight bezels and a 68 front bumper. Also no rear side marker lights, which I know 69s have. Somebody sure went out of their way to make it look like a 68. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 9:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street It's a '69, John. It just has a '68 grille in it. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Clint. I did see the pics and it looks beautiful. The subject says it's a 69 but it's a 68. I thought I was not looking at the right pictures. John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street
What are the first four digits in a '69's VIN? Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street
Are you sure they were shaved? Maybe the entire quarter panels were replaced. The replacement panels do not come w/ the marker light holes cut out. Note that the original panel has the hole in: http://johnnasta.com/elcamino/pages/MVC-633S.htm and the replacement panel does not in: http://johnnasta.com/elcamino/pages/MVC-637S.htm In my case, the hole will be cut in the new panel to match the original. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 9:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street The side marker lights were shaved when the car was painted. It does have a '69 rear bumper and tailgate. I always liked the '68's metal grille better,though. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Looks like it also has 68 headlight bezels and a 68 front bumper. Also no rear side marker lights, which I know 69s have. Somebody sure went out of their way to make it look like a 68. John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street
'68 bumpers have the back-up lights in them. 1969-72 have them in the tailgate. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] The rear bumper is the same from 68 to 72. I'm actually not sure off-hand what the difference is between a 68 and 69-72 tailgate. Is it the backup lights? John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Need help with Bellhousing Number
A buddy of mine has a GM bellhousing with the following number 468485 on it. Can anyone tell me what this is for? Any help would be appreciated! ---Eric Senior - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street
Thanks. That's what I thought. 69-72s have reflectors in the bumper where the 68 backup lights are, but it is the same bumper. The 69-72 tailgate is a different p/n from the 68 because of the backup lights (or absence thereof respectively). John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 10:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street '68 bumpers have the back-up lights in them. 1969-72 have them in the tailgate. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] The rear bumper is the same from 68 to 72. I'm actually not sure off-hand what the difference is between a 68 and 69-72 tailgate. Is it the backup lights? John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street
Heck,I don't know,John. I just assumed they were shaved. I wasn't trying to buy a numbers-matching example. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you sure they were shaved? Maybe the entire quarter panels were replaced. The replacement panels do not come w/ the marker light holes cut out. Note that the original panel has the hole in: http://johnnasta.com/elcamino/pages/MVC-633S.htm and the replacement panel does not in: http://johnnasta.com/elcamino/pages/MVC-637S.htm In my case, the hole will be cut in the new panel to match the original. John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street
You really need the 6th number in the VIN. That's the one that indicates the model year. The first five would be 13380, 13480, 13580 or 13680 depending on a standard or custom Elky and 6-Cyl or V-8. Dale McIntosh -Original Message- Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street What are the first four digits in a '69's VIN? Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical problem...UPDATE
Well.. thanks for all the help so far.. I seem to have isolated the problem to the wiring harness that runs to the back of the car... I unplug that and the dash lights work.. I unplugged the rear lights from the other side of the harness and the fuse still blows... So if my logic is correct the problem is in that wire somewhere The bummer thing is that I have sound deadening material and it could be nasty finding the problem :) Larry - Original Message - From: Richard Milkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical problem... Danny, that's a great idea. I would never have thought of that. I'm going to try it out the next time I have a problem. Rich 66 Malibu ACES # 5066 - Original Message - From: Danny Wilsher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 3:41 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical problem... A good tip to save fuses is to get a flasher (like the one that goes in the fuse block or hangs somewhere under the dash) and wire some spade lugs to it and make it where it can be attached to the two ends where the fuse plugs into. This will make the flasher click if there is a short. When the short is found, (by unplugging different harnesses), the flasher will go silent and you will know that you have located the place where the short was. And you saved a lot of blown fuses.. Ðäññÿ .. - Original Message - From: Dave Benjamin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Electrical problem... : One of the ways I track stuff down is to unplug the harnesses. : : 1.Most have a plug that goes to the harness under the carpet which feeds the : trunk, try that first and put in fuse. : : 2. If it holds try the plug in the trunk (plug the one under dash back : together). : Unplug and put in fuse. If fuse holds then check out back harness. Light : bulbs can also short out if they quit the wrong way. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street
Just curious. I know it's not meant to be original. Doesn't the term Heavy Chevy usually apply to 1970-72 Chevelles? Again, just curious. John Nasta (my 69 El Camino is not all-original either) http://johnnasta.com/elcamino -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 10:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street Heck,I don't know,John. I just assumed they were shaved. I wasn't trying to buy a numbers-matching example. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you sure they were shaved? Maybe the entire quarter panels were replaced. The replacement panels do not come w/ the marker light holes cut out. Note that the original panel has the hole in: http://johnnasta.com/elcamino/pages/MVC-633S.htm and the replacement panel does not in: http://johnnasta.com/elcamino/pages/MVC-637S.htm In my case, the hole will be cut in the new panel to match the original. John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street
We both have 136809s. My 7th digit is a B and Clint's is a K. What does the 7th digit (letter) mean? Does that indicate which plant it was made in? I would assume that the last 6 digits are the plant sequential number. For that matter, what do the 3, 4, 5, and 6 in the third digit mean? I looked into all of this on my Oldsmobiles but am still not familiar with all the ins outs of the VIN body tag on my El Camino yet. Mine originally cane w/ a 350, but I honestly don't know if it was a standard or custom, and what the differences are between the two. That info would be helpful. Thanks, John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dale McIntosh Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 10:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street You really need the 6th number in the VIN. That's the one that indicates the model year. The first five would be 13380, 13480, 13580 or 13680 depending on a standard or custom Elky and 6-Cyl or V-8. Dale McIntosh -Original Message- Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street What are the first four digits in a '69's VIN? Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street
Yeah and I hate those darn decals,John. That's the first thing that comes off the car when I get it home.g Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just curious. I know it's not meant to be original. Doesn't the term Heavy Chevy usually apply to 1970-72 Chevelles? Again, just curious. John Nasta (my 69 El Camino is not all-original either) http://johnnasta.com/elcamino - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street
I know I'm asking lots of questions. Sorry if I'm being a pain. Part of it is the anticipation of getting my own 69 El Camino back. Looking forward to it. I hope we both get lots of enjoyment out of them. That's the main thing. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 10:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street Yeah and I hate those darn decals,John. That's the first thing that comes off the car when I get it home.g Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just curious. I know it's not meant to be original. Doesn't the term Heavy Chevy usually apply to 1970-72 Chevelles? Again, just curious. John Nasta (my 69 El Camino is not all-original either) http://johnnasta.com/elcamino - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street
13680 8cyl custom. 7th digit is asembley plant baltimore jason pollock We both have 136809s. My 7th digit is a B and Clint's is a K. What does the 7th digit (letter) mean? Does that indicate which plant it was made in? I would assume that the last 6 digits are the plant sequential number. For that matter, what do the 3, 4, 5, and 6 in the third digit mean? I looked into all of this on my Oldsmobiles but am still not familiar with all the ins outs of the VIN body tag on my El Camino yet. Mine originally cane w/ a 350, but I honestly don't know if it was a standard or custom, and what the differences are between the two. That info would be helpful. Thanks, John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dale McIntosh Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 10:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street You really need the 6th number in the VIN. That's the one that indicates the model year. The first five would be 13380, 13480, 13580 or 13680 depending on a standard or custom Elky and 6-Cyl or V-8. Dale McIntosh -Original Message- Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street What are the first four digits in a '69's VIN? Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street
Nahh,you're not being a pain,John. It's great to talk to someone with the same interests. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know I'm asking lots of questions. Sorry if I'm being a pain. Part of it is the anticipation of getting my own 69 El Camino back. Looking forward to it. I hope we both get lots of enjoyment out of them. That's the main thing. John Nasta - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street
Well, this was already answered. Time to call it a night. Lots of work to do tomorrow. Thanks everybody. John Nasta -Original Message- Thanks Jason. Do you know what the differences are between the standard and custom models? - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] 454 Questions
I was cleaning up the motor today and it was originally blue? Did they come in blue? I am curious what all the stats are? I also found another set of numbers above timing chain cover? Front of motor 79B530317 Back of block 14015445 Above timing chain 10615 TRU Heads 346236 It was also casted into the block on the back(transmissionarea). HIGH PER PASS Please forgive me for stupid Questions, but first time doing a BB. Thank you DaveIngersoll,OntarioMy web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/
Re: [Chevelle-List] 454 Questions
Most likely a truck motor. Tom B. - Original Message - From: Dave Benjamin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 11:36 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] 454 Questions I was cleaning up the motor today and it was originally blue? Did they come in blue? I am curious what all the stats are? I also found another set of numbers above timing chain cover? Front of motor 79B530317 Back of block 14015445 Above timing chain 10615 TRU Heads 346236 It was also casted into the block on the back(transmissionarea). HIGH PER PASS Please forgive me for stupid Questions, but first time doing a BB. Thank you DaveIngersoll,OntarioMy web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/
RE: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street
B is for Baltimore and K is for Kansas City. 1 = Chevrolet 33 = Std 6-cyl Elky 34 = Std V-8 Elky 35 = Custom 6-cyl Elky 36 = Custom V-8 Elky 80 = 2-dr sedan pickup (Elky) 0-9 = Year Letter = Assembly plant Next numbers in VIN are sequential plant numbers Custom Elkys had better trim and interior - like the difference between a 300/300 Deluxe and Malibu. Custom got the wood grain tailgate, wood grain dash strip, better seats, etc. See http://www.team67.com/1967/gallery/brochures/ec-5.jpg for an Elky brochure Dale McIntosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 9:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street We both have 136809s. My 7th digit is a B and Clint's is a K. What does the 7th digit (letter) mean? Does that indicate which plant it was made in? I would assume that the last 6 digits are the plant sequential number. For that matter, what do the 3, 4, 5, and 6 in the third digit mean? I looked into all of this on my Oldsmobiles but am still not familiar with all the ins outs of the VIN body tag on my El Camino yet. Mine originally cane w/ a 350, but I honestly don't know if it was a standard or custom, and what the differences are between the two. That info would be helpful. Thanks, John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dale McIntosh Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 10:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street You really need the 6th number in the VIN. That's the one that indicates the model year. The first five would be 13380, 13480, 13580 or 13680 depending on a standard or custom Elky and 6-Cyl or V-8. Dale McIntosh -Original Message- Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] '69 Elky Pro Street What are the first four digits in a '69's VIN? Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director Wichita Falls,Tx (940) 855-6636 '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody TX TAGS: USA ZR1 http://www.LT5Registry.net/ '69 El Camino Pro Street - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
