Re: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning
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RE: [Chevelle-list] 454 serpentine truck?
Yeah, I know the water pump runs backwards in a completely stock 454 serpentine setup ..that's where I HOPE to be able to modify mine to run forwards. I think I have it figured out, but need to make sure of some things. I had heard that when you run the water pump backwards that you lose some efficiency. That's one reason I'd like to go with a normal rotation pump. Another is that I already have a normal rotation chrome pump I'd like to use :) I finally found a water pump serpentine pulley that will work because it's grooved and made for an aftermarket system. Here's a pic of what I am working on, and the string is to simulate the serpentine belt just for a visual and for testing. http://home.earthlink.net/~csmartin33/images/belts2.jpg
Re: [Chevelle-list] 454 serpentine truck?
Don't forget the fan blades are also reversed :-). Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] yep! another rocker arm question...
Hi Bill,my two cents,,you've got the cover off,,do it the safe way,,start the car,,back off adjustment until it starts to clatter,, then tighten the nut until the clatter just stops,,then you have the option to tighten it from1/4-1/2-3/4-to 1 full revolution,,but I would,, and have adj. mine at 1/2 turn,,mine being a 70 Chevelle big block,,the theory is for more low end power,,adj. at 1/2-3/4 turn,,for more upper power,,go for zero lash[adj. till clatter JUST stops] to1/4 turn,, don't just crank her down! - Original Message - From: "Bill Lessenberry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] yep! another rocker arm question... > > >I pulled the valve cover tonite and noticed the > >exhaust valve on #3 seemed a little sloppy, so I > >cranked her down- But here's my main question.. I > >noticed that some of the other rockers seemed tight, > >but if I held them at the tip (bottom)where they are > >over the valve spring, they would still wiggle a bit > >to the left and right over the spring.. Shouldn't they > >be tight enough that they can't shift from left to > >right at that point? > > Hydraulic cam?? If so, you will be able to wiggle them with the motor > off. When it's running, then the lifters fill with oil & take out the slack. > > BL > > >
Re: [Chevelle-list] Header removal
heck buy both :)
Re: [Chevelle-list] 454 serpentine truck?
Steve: I hope you realize that the water pump runs backwards with the 454 serpentine system ? I have a 98 gmc 1 ton with 454 and if you want I will send you some pictures of system. Let me know . Larry (Z)
RE: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning
At 07:56 PM 2/19/2004, you wrote: Guys, Forty is the old age of youth, and fifty is the youth of old age. Rich Did you just make that up??? Vey insightful & cool. :-))) Thanks. BL
Re: [Chevelle-list] 454 serpentine truck?
I have a 93 Suburban with a 454 in it, serpentine setup. I'll take some pictures in the daylight and send em on over to you. Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] 454 serpentine truck?
At 08:03 PM 2/19/2004, you wrote: Hi guys, I am trying to put on a modified serpentine system on my 396. I have some modern Chevy Truck 454 serpentine parts on there now. Would one of you happen to have pictures or can you take pictures of the setup on a 454 truck serpentine system? Be sure that you use the reverse rotation water pump if your system requires it. BL
[Chevelle-list] 454 serpentine truck?
Hi guys, I am trying to put on a modified serpentine system on my 396. I have some modern Chevy Truck 454 serpentine parts on there now. Would one of you happen to have pictures or can you take pictures of the setup on a 454 truck serpentine system? Thanks! Steve
RE: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning
Guys, Forty is the old age of youth, and fifty is the youth of old age. Rich -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Lessenberry Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 1:16 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning At 11:02 AM 2/19/2004, you wrote: >OMG, I remember S&H and I am only 41. Is that considered "old"??? It won't be when you're 52!!
RE: [Chevelle-list] Header removal
Torch. Sawzall with a metal blade. Cut off wheel for a high speed air powered cut off tool. Hand held high speed grinder. Jigsaw with a metal blade There is more than one way to destroy a header! This also gives you an excuse to buy another tool. If you are into carpentry stuff most, get the sawzall (cutoff saw). If you are into cars and stuff get the 4 or 5" high speed grinder :-) Mark -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of LandMMilanoSent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 4:46 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Header removal Believe me I have thought that many times, but I don't have a cutting torch available. I guess I could rent one. - Original Message - From: Mark Weber To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 4:34 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Header removal Maybe you should cut them up to get them off, if they are old crap? Perhaps your new headers are a different shape and might slide in? Just an idea. Don't kill yourself trying to get aftermarket cheap crap headers off! Mark -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of LandMMilanoSent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 4:28 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Fw: [Chevelle-list] Header removal Tried removing the old filter and still no luck. It appears that it may come out from the bottom the best. The clutch linkage is the only thing I can see holding it back. I am def. not a pro with anything to do with clutches so is there anything I should look out for taking the linkage apart. You are right, I do NOT want to have to take the head off. They are some kind of aftermarket cheap crap header, two of the four pipes were smashed about half closed so I have some Hooker's in the box waiting to go on it. - Original Message - From: LandMMilano To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 3:32 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Header removal I have a 69 4spd big block and I am having a rough time getting the driver's side header off. The passenger side came out from the bottom, but the driver's side hits the clutch, steering, etc. so, unbolted motor and moved steering column out of way and it still will not come out the top. Any secrets I am missing?
Re: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning
You learn something every day on this list. - Original Message - From: Dale McIntosh To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 7:14 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning Interesting stuff at Exxon's site about the Tiger mascot. http://www2.exxonmobil.com/Corporate/About/History/Corp_A_H_Tiger.asp Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709/NECOA #41 67SS/67 Elky DalesPlace My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team67 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific MidwestChevelles Midwest Chevelle Show Information I've stopped 1,333 spam messages. You can too!One month FREE spam protection at www.cloudmark.com
RE: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning
Interesting stuff at Exxon's site about the Tiger mascot. http://www2.exxonmobil.com/Corporate/About/History/Corp_A_H_Tiger.asp Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709/NECOA #41 67SS/67 Elky DalesPlace My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team67 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific MidwestChevelles Midwest Chevelle Show Information I've stopped 1,333 spam messages. You can too!One month FREE spam protection at www.cloudmark.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] Help....need a picture of a '68 Chevelle bucketseat back bracket - Resend
Donnie, Contact me off the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will help. Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 (virgin engine :) ACES #5102 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 4:51 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Helpneed a picture of a '68 Chevelle bucketseat back bracket - Resend With all the tests and "are you there" emails, figured I should post this one againmaybe it didnt go through... Does anyone out there have a set of bucket seats from a 68 (maybe even 68-72) Chevelle/GTO/OLDs laying around that they can remove the back cover and send me a digital picture of the top brackets that hold the top of the seat back to the seat frame? I have acquired a set of '68 buckets and these are missing. I've been trying to find a set of the brackets, but dont really know what I am looking for. Would be nice to have a visualheck maybe then I can even make a set. I'm told these were welded to the frame?? Mine look like they were screwed on??? Thanks in advance. Donnie
Re: [Chevelle-list] glove box door
I will look Saturday. No problem - Original Message - From: Debra Rockwell To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:42 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] glove box door That sounds like a deal to me. If you find it, let me know, and I will figure out how much it will be to send it here. Thanks again.
[Chevelle-list] glove box door
That sounds like a deal to me. If you find it, let me know, and I will figure out how much it will be to send it here. Thanks again.
[Chevelle-list] 1/4 mile ET and Speed
You guys and gals who have 502/502's What was you 1/4 mile times. Thanks Jack Jack Thorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-list] Re: tail out of the trunk meaning
we would ride our bikes over the rubber hoses to make the bell ring - gaswas .68 a gallon then. I'm 44 and I remember when I was a kid gas was .28 a gallon. Must have been around 1967 or 1968?, since I got .50 a week in allowance for my chores, and I could almost buy two gallons of the 'red' gas for my minibike. A bunch of us would ride all over on the old fire roads in the woods behind our house. Dad usually gassed up on Sunday, and you better have been ready with the gas can when he left or you weren't riding that week. He had a white 64 Impala with a blue interior with that damned speaker cover? with the Impala on it in the middle of the back seat. It was mighty uncomfortable as I recall. When you are the youngest you always get stuck in the middle. Well, by Wednesday the gas was long gone... B-( Kurt Ehrhardt66 Chevelle Malibu66 Chevelle SSACES #1280TC Gold #263Enfield, CT
Re: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning
Yep, Sperry & Hutchinson. That "wish book" was great, I even remember there was a Cessna aircraft in one of 'em... probably a 150 but my memory ain't that good. It was better than the Sears catalog because everything in there was "free"! -= Gunner =- -= Jacksonville FL =- -= www.tail-gunner.net =- ---Original Message--- From: The Chevelle Mailing List Date: 02/19/04 11:49:33 To: The Chevelle Mailing List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning S & H Green Stamps.anyone remember what the S & H stood for? I think that it was Sperry and Hutchinson or something like that. Geez are we that old. Gene
RE: [Chevelle-list] Header removal
Title: Message With a BB, it may actually be better to remove the head. I just had both of mine off, and pulling the header would have been a breeze. Taking the heads off, and reinstalling them isn't that big of a deal, it just costs a few extra $$'s. Gaskets alone were about $125 for me. I know they were alot cheaper down in Georgia, but Anchorage is a bit higher cost bracket. Also, I bought the only ones in the state. I sure hope I don't have to replace them again for a while! SARGE 69SS/Clone-Original Message-From: Graham Wooden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 1:58 PMTo: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Header removal Hi, That was post back in Dec was from me. I was in the same boat ... you will have to take the clutch linkage out; I had to. I don't think there is a way without doing it. Then I had to motor mount bolt out from the drivers side and tilt the motor towards the passenger side. The header will side out ever so slightly from the bottom. To get the header in I had to tap it in with a hammer (Carefully ;-) This was done on a SB ... not sure of the dimensions on the BB, but probably very similar. Hope this helps. -Graham. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fruhauf Kerry A SSgt 3 CS/SCBSSent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 5:49 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Header removal http://host.chevyteam.com/pipermail/chevelle-list_chevelles.net/2003-December/subject.html The thread is [Chevelle-list] Best way to install the driver side Exhaust Header It's right near the top of the page. I hope it helps. Looks like the answer was to lift the motor up a bit, like I posted earlier. Good luck. SARGE 69SS/Clone -Original Message-From: LandMMilano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 1:46 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Header removal Believe me I have thought that many times, but I don't have a cutting torch available. I guess I could rent one. - Original Message - From: Mark Weber To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 4:34 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Header removal Maybe you should cut them up to get them off, if they are old crap? Perhaps your new headers are a different shape and might slide in? Just an idea. Don't kill yourself trying to get aftermarket cheap crap headers off! Mark -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of LandMMilanoSent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 4:28 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Fw: [Chevelle-list] Header removal Tried removing the old filter and still no luck. It appears that it may come out from the bottom the best. The clutch linkage is the only thing I can see holding it back. I am def. not a pro with anything to do with clutches so is there anything I should look out for taking the linkage apart. You are right, I do NOT want to have to take the head off. They are some kind of aftermarket cheap crap header, two of the four pipes were smashed about half closed so I have some Hooker's in the box waiting to go on it. - Original Message - From: LandMMilano To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 3:32 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Header removal I have a 69 4spd big block and I am having a rough time getting the driver's side header off. The passenger side came out from the bottom, but the driver's side hits the clutch, steering, etc. so, unbolted motor and moved steering column out of way and it still will not come out the top. Any secrets I am missing?
RE: [Chevelle-list] Header removal
Title: Message Hi, That was post back in Dec was from me. I was in the same boat ... you will have to take the clutch linkage out; I had to. I don't think there is a way without doing it. Then I had to motor mount bolt out from the drivers side and tilt the motor towards the passenger side. The header will side out ever so slightly from the bottom. To get the header in I had to tap it in with a hammer (Carefully ;-) This was done on a SB ... not sure of the dimensions on the BB, but probably very similar. Hope this helps. -Graham. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fruhauf Kerry A SSgt 3 CS/SCBSSent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 5:49 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Header removal http://host.chevyteam.com/pipermail/chevelle-list_chevelles.net/2003-December/subject.html The thread is [Chevelle-list] Best way to install the driver side Exhaust Header It's right near the top of the page. I hope it helps. Looks like the answer was to lift the motor up a bit, like I posted earlier. Good luck. SARGE 69SS/Clone -Original Message-From: LandMMilano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 1:46 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Header removal Believe me I have thought that many times, but I don't have a cutting torch available. I guess I could rent one. - Original Message - From: Mark Weber To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 4:34 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Header removal Maybe you should cut them up to get them off, if they are old crap? Perhaps your new headers are a different shape and might slide in? Just an idea. Don't kill yourself trying to get aftermarket cheap crap headers off! Mark -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of LandMMilanoSent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 4:28 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Fw: [Chevelle-list] Header removal Tried removing the old filter and still no luck. It appears that it may come out from the bottom the best. The clutch linkage is the only thing I can see holding it back. I am def. not a pro with anything to do with clutches so is there anything I should look out for taking the linkage apart. You are right, I do NOT want to have to take the head off. They are some kind of aftermarket cheap crap header, two of the four pipes were smashed about half closed so I have some Hooker's in the box waiting to go on it. - Original Message - From: LandMMilano To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 3:32 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Header removal I have a 69 4spd big block and I am having a rough time getting the driver's side header off. The passenger side came out from the bottom, but the driver's side hits the clutch, steering, etc. so, unbolted motor and moved steering column out of way and it still will not come out the top. Any secrets I am missing?
[Chevelle-list] Help....need a picture of a '68 Chevelle bucket seat back bracket - Resend
With all the tests and "are you there" emails, figured I should post this one againmaybe it didnt go through... Does anyone out there have a set of bucket seats from a 68 (maybe even 68-72) Chevelle/GTO/OLDs laying around that they can remove the back cover and send me a digital picture of the top brackets that hold the top of the seat back to the seat frame? I have acquired a set of '68 buckets and these are missing. I've been trying to find a set of the brackets, but dont really know what I am looking for. Would be nice to have a visualheck maybe then I can even make a set. I'm told these were welded to the frame?? Mine look like they were screwed on??? Thanks in advance. Donnie
RE: [Chevelle-list] Header removal
Title: Message http://host.chevyteam.com/pipermail/chevelle-list_chevelles.net/2003-December/subject.html The thread is [Chevelle-list] Best way to install the driver side Exhaust Header It's right near the top of the page. I hope it helps. Looks like the answer was to lift the motor up a bit, like I posted earlier. Good luck. SARGE 69SS/Clone -Original Message-From: LandMMilano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 1:46 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Header removal Believe me I have thought that many times, but I don't have a cutting torch available. I guess I could rent one. - Original Message - From: Mark Weber To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 4:34 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Header removal Maybe you should cut them up to get them off, if they are old crap? Perhaps your new headers are a different shape and might slide in? Just an idea. Don't kill yourself trying to get aftermarket cheap crap headers off! Mark -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of LandMMilanoSent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 4:28 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Fw: [Chevelle-list] Header removal Tried removing the old filter and still no luck. It appears that it may come out from the bottom the best. The clutch linkage is the only thing I can see holding it back. I am def. not a pro with anything to do with clutches so is there anything I should look out for taking the linkage apart. You are right, I do NOT want to have to take the head off. They are some kind of aftermarket cheap crap header, two of the four pipes were smashed about half closed so I have some Hooker's in the box waiting to go on it. - Original Message - From: LandMMilano To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 3:32 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Header removal I have a 69 4spd big block and I am having a rough time getting the driver's side header off. The passenger side came out from the bottom, but the driver's side hits the clutch, steering, etc. so, unbolted motor and moved steering column out of way and it still will not come out the top. Any secrets I am missing?
Re: [Chevelle-list] Header removal
Believe me I have thought that many times, but I don't have a cutting torch available. I guess I could rent one. - Original Message - From: Mark Weber To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 4:34 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Header removal Maybe you should cut them up to get them off, if they are old crap? Perhaps your new headers are a different shape and might slide in? Just an idea. Don't kill yourself trying to get aftermarket cheap crap headers off! Mark -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of LandMMilanoSent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 4:28 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Fw: [Chevelle-list] Header removal Tried removing the old filter and still no luck. It appears that it may come out from the bottom the best. The clutch linkage is the only thing I can see holding it back. I am def. not a pro with anything to do with clutches so is there anything I should look out for taking the linkage apart. You are right, I do NOT want to have to take the head off. They are some kind of aftermarket cheap crap header, two of the four pipes were smashed about half closed so I have some Hooker's in the box waiting to go on it. - Original Message - From: LandMMilano To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 3:32 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Header removal I have a 69 4spd big block and I am having a rough time getting the driver's side header off. The passenger side came out from the bottom, but the driver's side hits the clutch, steering, etc. so, unbolted motor and moved steering column out of way and it still will not come out the top. Any secrets I am missing?
RE: [Chevelle-list] Header removal
Maybe you should cut them up to get them off, if they are old crap? Perhaps your new headers are a different shape and might slide in? Just an idea. Don't kill yourself trying to get aftermarket cheap crap headers off! Mark -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of LandMMilanoSent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 4:28 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Fw: [Chevelle-list] Header removal Tried removing the old filter and still no luck. It appears that it may come out from the bottom the best. The clutch linkage is the only thing I can see holding it back. I am def. not a pro with anything to do with clutches so is there anything I should look out for taking the linkage apart. You are right, I do NOT want to have to take the head off. They are some kind of aftermarket cheap crap header, two of the four pipes were smashed about half closed so I have some Hooker's in the box waiting to go on it. - Original Message - From: LandMMilano To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 3:32 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Header removal I have a 69 4spd big block and I am having a rough time getting the driver's side header off. The passenger side came out from the bottom, but the driver's side hits the clutch, steering, etc. so, unbolted motor and moved steering column out of way and it still will not come out the top. Any secrets I am missing?
Re: [Chevelle-list] Header removal
How do you search prev. topics? - Original Message - From: LandMMilano To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 3:32 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Header removal I have a 69 4spd big block and I am having a rough time getting the driver's side header off. The passenger side came out from the bottom, but the driver's side hits the clutch, steering, etc. so, unbolted motor and moved steering column out of way and it still will not come out the top. Any secrets I am missing?
Fw: [Chevelle-list] Header removal
Tried removing the old filter and still no luck. It appears that it may come out from the bottom the best. The clutch linkage is the only thing I can see holding it back. I am def. not a pro with anything to do with clutches so is there anything I should look out for taking the linkage apart. You are right, I do NOT want to have to take the head off. They are some kind of aftermarket cheap crap header, two of the four pipes were smashed about half closed so I have some Hooker's in the box waiting to go on it. - Original Message - From: LandMMilano To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 3:32 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Header removal I have a 69 4spd big block and I am having a rough time getting the driver's side header off. The passenger side came out from the bottom, but the driver's side hits the clutch, steering, etc. so, unbolted motor and moved steering column out of way and it still will not come out the top. Any secrets I am missing?
RE: [Chevelle-list] Header removal
Title: Message I'm pretty sure we covered this one a while back. You could do a search through the archives for it, if you don't get an answer soon. I couldn't tell you about a BB, I have a SB383. Mine are even a PITA, but if I take the engine mount bolts out, and lift the motor just a bit, I can barely squeak them outta there. I'm fairly certain, that if you take the head off, it will come outta there, but you probably don't want to go through all that! ;-) SARGE 69SS/Clone -Original Message-From: LandMMilano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:32 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-list] Header removal I have a 69 4spd big block and I am having a rough time getting the driver's side header off. The passenger side came out from the bottom, but the driver's side hits the clutch, steering, etc. so, unbolted motor and moved steering column out of way and it still will not come out the top. Any secrets I am missing?
RE: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning
Thanks to all who responded! It was great to see so much information get dug up on the question. The spin off topics were good to. I'm 39, so I can't say I recall the "Put a Tiger in Your Tank" ads. I do remember the "S&H" stamps - we called them "Green H stamps" and full service stations as we would ride our bikes over the rubber hoses to make the bell ring - gas was .68 a gallon then. Where are those "care free" days? I put in "Tiger Tail" on Ebay - found one for sale at $10.00 - no bids yet. Thanks again, Krister
[Chevelle-list] Header removal
I have a 69 4spd big block and I am having a rough time getting the driver's side header off. The passenger side came out from the bottom, but the driver's side hits the clutch, steering, etc. so, unbolted motor and moved steering column out of way and it still will not come out the top. Any secrets I am missing?
Re: [Chevelle-list] Looking for radio to fit.
This link will take you to a page for all Kenwood mobile products with the word "shaft" in their description: http://www.kenwoodusa.com/search/search_specific.jsp?query=shaft+&category=DIV-CA&x=10&y=10 I often download the manuals for things I am interested in to get a better idea of the specs. You will see that this link has product pictures, specs and manuals that can be downloaded. Let me know if I can help in any other way. - Original Message - From: Dan Knutson To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Looking for radio to fit. Ron , thats great information, but I cant seem to find the shaft radios on that web site. Can you help? Ron Griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kenwood still makes several shaft models that will fit. I had one in my 71'Elky. You can research them at www.kenwoodusa.com. Decent units, reasonably priced. Custom Auto Sound makes direct replacements systems designed to look a lot like original. These are very expensive and appear to be quality high-end units. Check www.custom-autosound.com. Hope this helps, Ron Griffith - Original Message - From: Craig & Cerena Robertson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:59 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Looking for radio to fit. Can anyone tell me of an aftermarket am/fm cassette radio, shaft model of course, that will fit the dash of a 69 Chevelle without cutting it? Thanks. Holes look to be a hair over 6 ¼ inches. Craig
Re: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning
I like your answer. Just turned 59, 41, that was a mighty fine year! Bob 71 Elky
RE: Re: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning
We have Esso here in Europe. But for tiger tails we have to go to the Zoo :o) Full Revs!!! :o) André -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19. februar 2004 21:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning From: "Mike Holleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I guess I forgot the original post. The GTO was Pontiacs tiger. As far > as the tail I believe you are right to that being Esso's trademark. So why did they change to Exxon anyhow? I think in the rest of the world it's still Esso. Pete Geurds Douglassville, PA
Re: Re: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning
From: "Mike Holleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I guess I forgot the original post. The GTO was Pontiacs tiger. As far > as the tail I believe you are right to that being Esso's trademark. So why did they change to Exxon anyhow? I think in the rest of the world it's still Esso. Pete Geurds Douglassville, PA
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Re: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning
At 11:02 AM 2/19/2004, you wrote: OMG, I remember S&H and I am only 41. Is that considered "old"??? It won't be when you're 52!!
Re: [Chevelle-list] Any one receiving this?
Load and clear, good buddy. - Original Message - From: Jack Thorpe To: Chevelle-list Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 10:07 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Any one receiving this? Trying out the list. Just joined. Thanks Jack Jack Thorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning
I believe you are right, Gene, you don't look that old.
Re: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning
OMG, I remember S&H and I am only 41. Is that considered "old"??? - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning > S & H Green Stamps.anyone remember what the S & H stood for? I think that it was Sperry and Hutchinson or something like that. Geez are we that old. > > Gene
Re: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning
S & H Green Stamps.anyone remember what the S & H stood for? I think that it was Sperry and Hutchinson or something like that. Geez are we that old. Gene
Re: [Chevelle-list] Body OFF
That's exactly how I did my '66 Dave. It sure was scary till I got my dolly under the body. I had 6 guys help me put it back on. It took 2 minutes to put on and all day to take it off by myself. What an experience that was. Rich - Original Message - From: Dave Benjamin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 10:10 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Body OFF I Removed the body from the frame on the 1968 chevelle I am doing right now. There was questions on how to do it before so I took some step by step pictures. The only tools used are heavy duty jack stands, 4x4 posts, some other wood, 3 ton floor jack and taking your time doing it.When done I also tie the 4x4 together. I only have a double garage. If wanting to see the pictures they are on the 1968 chevelle restoration under frame. DaveIngersoll,OntarioMy web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/
Re: [Chevelle-list] Looking for radio to fit.
Ron , thats great information, but I cant seem to find the shaft radios on that web site. Can you help? Ron Griffith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kenwood still makes several shaft models that will fit. I had one in my 71'Elky. You can research them at www.kenwoodusa.com. Decent units, reasonably priced. Custom Auto Sound makes direct replacements systems designed to look a lot like original. These are very expensive and appear to be quality high-end units. Check www.custom-autosound.com. Hope this helps, Ron Griffith - Original Message - From: Craig & Cerena Robertson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:59 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Looking for radio to fit. Can anyone tell me of an aftermarket am/fm cassette radio, shaft model of course, that will fit the dash of a 69 Chevelle without cutting it? Thanks. Holes look to be a hair over 6 ¼ inches. Craig
Re: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning
How about "green stamps" with your gas, dishs, glassware,etc. Not that I remember cheap gas, or "Check your oil?" leaded gas, or courtious service at the pump. Naw, not in my life time
Re: RE: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning
Mike, I got my BFG Radial T/A's (245x60x14's) for about $76.00 each at a local Costco. I know Sams Club, Big-O, and Discount tires has them too. Steve > > From: "Mike Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2004/02/19 Thu AM 09:52:44 EST > To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning > > Yep, Back in 66 I had a 66 GTO 360hp with redline Tigerpaws. New then low > profile > tires to be a bit more "sticky". Tigerpaws were IT in those days and red > lines were the > thing for MUSCLE. Obviously Tigerpaws were advertised with the big Tiger > with outstretched > paws that were huge compared to the Tiger behind them. > And as mentioned before with great detail the Tiger in your tank came from > ESSO. > > Now my question regarding tires. These days it is easy to find a Goodyear > dealer but I am > not sure about a Goodrich seller. Did the Goodrich tires come out on > Chevelles from the factory? > 1970? What are the opinions about performance in use on the street, > durability and longevity > between the two tires? I am going to buy a new set of tires for my 70 Malibu > Sport Coupe > and can get Goodyear easily. It may take some hunting to find Goodrich in my > area. Would it > be worth it? Thanks, Mike > > Justa 70 Malibu with RWL (I think...but maybeor.) > > K0AZ > Mike Sanders 18169 Highway 174 >MT Vernon, MO 65712-9171 > Emergency Coordinator > Lawrence County Missouri > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >6 Meter DXCC #436 WAZ #27 > WAS #1094 WAC WAJD VUCC > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 6:34 PM > To: The Chevelle Mailing List > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning > > > If memory serves, Uniroyal used a Pontiac GTO in a cartoon to advertise it's > Tiger Paw tires. Had nothing to do with Pontiac. > > Rich > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of crobertson1 > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 11:39 AM > To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning > > > Pontiac GTO's campaign was with a tiger. The GTO TIGER. Put a tiger in > your tank. Etc. > > Craig > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JimM > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:41 PM > To: The Chevelle Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning > > Might it be a throw-back to the Pontiacs of the mid-60's? Didn't they have a > tiger as part of their ad campaigns? Seems to me I remember GTO ads with a > tiger tail hanging out of the trunk... > > > - Original Message - > From: "Krister Meister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 11:08 AM > Subject: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been around cars and car shows my entire life, however, I don't > have > > a clue about the tail sticking out of the trunk. Where did it start? > What > > meaning, if any, does it have? Any trivial information would be good to > > know, so this year when at our cruise nights and my 6 yr twins ask "what's > > the sticking out for?" I'll have better answers for them rather than just > > laughing with them about the cat or raccoon that is stuck in the trunk. > > > > Krister Meister (no fuzzy dice or tails) > > Bloomingdale, IL > > '66 #'s matching > > > > > > > > > >
RE: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning
...or the giveaway of Anchor Hocking glassware with 10 gallons of gas when a good attendant could start your gas, wash both sides of the windshield and still get to the nozzle to shut it off at a $1's worth. :*) Dale Cleaning the windshield provided one of the few fringe benefits of working as a pump jockey in the late 60's & early 70's. This was the time of mini skirts and halter tops, and occasionally you would get a glimpse of heaven whilst rubbing the windscreen. I worked at a Phillips 66 station where we had to 1. Gas the car. 2. Clean the windshield & the rear window, and if the customer asked, clean the side windows 3. Open the hood & check the oil & battery water levels and 4. Vacuum the floorboards--there were vacuum cleaners mounted on posts at the pump islands to do this. A lot of stuff to do, and we had to do it all if even if the customer only bought $1 of gas. BL
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Welcome, enjoy and learn like the rest of us are doing. Bob 71 Elky
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It works, welcome Jack !! André > Trying out the list. Just joined. > Thanks > Jack > > > Jack Thorpe > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-list] Body OFF
I Removed the body from the frame on the 1968 chevelle I am doing right now. There was questions on how to do it before so I took some step by step pictures. The only tools used are heavy duty jack stands, 4x4 posts, some other wood, 3 ton floor jack and taking your time doing it.When done I also tie the 4x4 together. I only have a double garage. If wanting to see the pictures they are on the 1968 chevelle restoration under frame. DaveIngersoll,OntarioMy web site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/
Re: [Chevelle-list] Looking for radio to fit.
Kenwood still makes several shaft models that will fit. I had one in my 71'Elky. You can research them at www.kenwoodusa.com. Decent units, reasonably priced. Custom Auto Sound makes direct replacements systems designed to look a lot like original. These are very expensive and appear to be quality high-end units. Check www.custom-autosound.com. Hope this helps, Ron Griffith - Original Message - From: Craig & Cerena Robertson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:59 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Looking for radio to fit. Can anyone tell me of an aftermarket am/fm cassette radio, shaft model of course, that will fit the dash of a 69 Chevelle without cutting it? Thanks. Holes look to be a hair over 6 ¼ inches. Craig
[Chevelle-list] Any one receiving this?
Trying out the list. Just joined. Thanks Jack Jack Thorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning
Yep, Back in 66 I had a 66 GTO 360hp with redline Tigerpaws. New then low profile tires to be a bit more "sticky". Tigerpaws were IT in those days and red lines were the thing for MUSCLE. Obviously Tigerpaws were advertised with the big Tiger with outstretched paws that were huge compared to the Tiger behind them. And as mentioned before with great detail the Tiger in your tank came from ESSO. Now my question regarding tires. These days it is easy to find a Goodyear dealer but I am not sure about a Goodrich seller. Did the Goodrich tires come out on Chevelles from the factory? 1970? What are the opinions about performance in use on the street, durability and longevity between the two tires? I am going to buy a new set of tires for my 70 Malibu Sport Coupe and can get Goodyear easily. It may take some hunting to find Goodrich in my area. Would it be worth it? Thanks, Mike Justa 70 Malibu with RWL (I think...but maybeor.) K0AZ Mike Sanders 18169 Highway 174 MT Vernon, MO 65712-9171 Emergency Coordinator Lawrence County Missouri [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6 Meter DXCC #436 WAZ #27 WAS #1094 WAC WAJD VUCC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 6:34 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning If memory serves, Uniroyal used a Pontiac GTO in a cartoon to advertise it's Tiger Paw tires. Had nothing to do with Pontiac. Rich -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of crobertson1 Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 11:39 AM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning Pontiac GTO's campaign was with a tiger. The GTO TIGER. Put a tiger in your tank. Etc. Craig -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JimM Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:41 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning Might it be a throw-back to the Pontiacs of the mid-60's? Didn't they have a tiger as part of their ad campaigns? Seems to me I remember GTO ads with a tiger tail hanging out of the trunk... - Original Message - From: "Krister Meister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 11:08 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning > > > > > > I have been around cars and car shows my entire life, however, I don't have > a clue about the tail sticking out of the trunk. Where did it start? What > meaning, if any, does it have? Any trivial information would be good to > know, so this year when at our cruise nights and my 6 yr twins ask "what's > the sticking out for?" I'll have better answers for them rather than just > laughing with them about the cat or raccoon that is stuck in the trunk. > > Krister Meister (no fuzzy dice or tails) > Bloomingdale, IL > '66 #'s matching > >
[Chevelle-list] Looking for radio to fit.
Can anyone tell me of an aftermarket am/fm cassette radio, shaft model of course, that will fit the dash of a 69 Chevelle without cutting it? Thanks. Holes look to be a hair over 6 ¼ inches. Craig
Re: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning
Bill, I guess I forgot the original post. The GTO was Pontiacs tiger. As far as the tail I believe you are right to that being Esso's trademark. Mike - Original Message - From: "Bill Lessenberry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning > At 08:39 PM 2/18/2004, you wrote: > >Ok guys, you are gonna make me have to admit my Pontiac connection. In 1963, > >As the first GTO began to hit the market, Jim Wangers, Pontiac marketing > >manager came up with the Tiger tie in. They did adds both in print and TV > >with a tiger climbing under the hood of the new GTO. They used the Tiger > >theme for several years. You might remember the GTO Tiger racing team from > >the mid sixties. This was also Jim's idea. They would come to local drag > >strips and challenge the locals to race the tiger. Had drivers in Tiger > >suits. Anyway, I grew up at an ESSO station. That is where my hotrod roots > >began to grow. I believe the Pontiac tiger pre-empted Esso's. Not positive > >about that, but the Uni Royal Tiger Paws were definately after Pontiac's > >Tiger. > >Yes I am old enough to have been there. Although I am a Chevelle nut, I do > >own a couple of 64 Pontiacs. > >Mike Holleman > > Did Pontiac ever give out tiger tails? I know the only ones I got were > from the Esso station. My Dad was a travelling salesman, and drove > Pontiacs from 1958 until he was no longer able to drive. I went with him > to the dealer when he bought his cars, and I feel sure that the salesman > would have given me a tail if they were available. Dad put 85 to 100k > miles a year on his Ponchos, and he traded every year. I can clearly > remember the '63, '64, & '65 Catalinas that he had, & I don't remember any > tiger tails. I did my best to talk him into a GTO, but it was "too d&$n > small for what I need!" (I remember that clearly too ) In 69 he got a > Bonneville with the 428, 4bb, dual exhausts, positrac, & sport suspension > package. I was 17 years old, a total bonehead, & he let me take it out one > day. I locked up the brakes when a old man started to pull out in front of > me, spun it around, and hit a curb with the left rear wheel. After that > the car drove real weird; had a '"whoompity, whoompity" noise in the > back. I took the car home, told the old man what I did, got my butt > whipped even though I was 17 and had owned up to my stupidity. I think is > cost about $400 to put a new rear end under the car. I bent the axle & > probably the control arms & who knows what else. Dad got rid of the Bonnie > soon after that, mainly because of the bad gas mileage. If I ever find a > GTO that's as nice as my SS, I'll probably try to trade for it. I still > have a soft spot for Pontiacs. > > BL > >
Re: [Chevelle-list] Blackwalls/RWL/Redlines?
Only one person mentioned redlines. I kinda like them and have been leaning towards buying a set and mounting them on wheel vintique chrome rallyes or weld or crager draglight type on a dark green(tahitian turquoise) 65 SS. I prefer chrome over highly polished. I think they're easier to care for & keep lookin good. Coker makes radial redlines. The widest are 235/75/15 at about 29 inches high. I have a later model 12 bolt so its kinda tight back there with current RWL Goodyear ST's 235/60/15 which are about 8 years old but still have some life for summer cruisin'. Redlines were quite popular back in the mid 60's on Chevelles & GTO's mostly. All & any comments, constructive critisism or other, or just some good old thinking out loud will all be appreciated. Phil G. 65 SS
RE: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning
Y'all ain't old unless you remember the ads for "Pink" air atFina stations... ...or the giveaway of Anchor Hocking glassware with 10 gallons of gas when a good attendant could start your gas, wash both sides of the windshield and still get to the nozzle to shut it off at a $1's worth. :*) Dale
RE: [Chevelle-list] tail out of the trunk meaning
At 06:31 PM 2/18/2004, you wrote: Bill, You are exactly right about Esso, and showing both of our ages, and about the white gas too! Rich Y'all ain't old unless you remember the ads for "Pink" air at Fina stations... [EMAIL PROTECTED] & The Doberman gang in Dallas (Taxes) Dave's Doberman page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1877/ Doberworld home page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1878/ El-Camino/Chevelle page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1876/ My Machine Shop http://cncshop.8m.com
