RE: [Chevelle-list] timing

2004-03-29 Thread Dave Studly
Graham, you can probably start at anywhere from 6-10 degree BTDC.  Setting
the initial timing at TDC will be a little on the late side.  The motor
might feel a little sluggish on the bottom end.  To measure the total
timing, you'll need a timing tap on your balancer, or a dial-back timing
light.

-Dave


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Thanks Mike.  The motor is running, it's at TDC right now.  "Time" to break
out the timing light HA HA HA ... Er, ok, that wasn't funny.

Thanks again,

-Graham.

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Graham, When I set timing after having the dist. out I rotate the dist as it
requires to get the engine started, set static timing about where the book
says, get the engine up to operating temp and then set total timing by
running the engine above three grand(or what RPM is needed for total
mechanical advance) and adjust to where you hope to run it. Small blocks
like around 36 degrees or so, but the key is to run the car and be sure you
don't spark knock under load. If you do you are too far advanced. Every
engine is different. My Pontiac 421 likes 40 plus degrees. There are many
people on this list that know way more than me about tuning. Maybe someone
can get you closer than me, but this method will work for most street
engines. Mike
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Hi Dale,

Yeah, ignition timing.  Um, well, I remember the folks who degreed in my cam
wrote down what the timing is supposed to be set at ... So much before or
after top dead center.  I just figured that there was some collation there -
and I wish I could find that paper. Oh well.

So I guess the timing has be done be feel eh?

-Graham.


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Are you talking ignition timing?  Nothing to do with cam specs.

Dale McIntosh



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> Wooden
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>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I am in need to get my timing done, and for some reason I lost the
> sheet of paper that when the cam was degreed in, what was the mark for
> the timing. So, with that ... I do have my cam specs.  Can the timing
> be figured out from it or would I have to go by 'feel' ?
>
> Intake Exhaust
> Duration @ 050 224 224
> Lobe Lift 310 310
> Lobe Separation 104 112
> Seat Duration @ 006 276 276
> Gross valve lift 465 465
> Valve lash (hot) 0 0
> Degree #1 intake lobe to: 104 ATDC
>
> Any help would be rad, thanks!
>
> -Graham.
> http://www.projectchevelle.com/
>
>
>










RE: [Chevelle-list] timing

2004-03-29 Thread Graham Wooden
Thanks Mike.  The motor is running, it's at TDC right now.  "Time" to break
out the timing light HA HA HA ... Er, ok, that wasn't funny.

Thanks again,

-Graham.

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Graham, When I set timing after having the dist. out I rotate the dist as it
requires to get the engine started, set static timing about where the book
says, get the engine up to operating temp and then set total timing by
running the engine above three grand(or what RPM is needed for total
mechanical advance) and adjust to where you hope to run it. Small blocks
like around 36 degrees or so, but the key is to run the car and be sure you
don't spark knock under load. If you do you are too far advanced. Every
engine is different. My Pontiac 421 likes 40 plus degrees. There are many
people on this list that know way more than me about tuning. Maybe someone
can get you closer than me, but this method will work for most street
engines. Mike
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Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 8:56 PM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] timing


Hi Dale,

Yeah, ignition timing.  Um, well, I remember the folks who degreed in my cam
wrote down what the timing is supposed to be set at ... So much before or
after top dead center.  I just figured that there was some collation there -
and I wish I could find that paper. Oh well.

So I guess the timing has be done be feel eh?

-Graham.


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Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] timing


Are you talking ignition timing?  Nothing to do with cam specs.

Dale McIntosh



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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham 
> Wooden
> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 6:31 PM
> To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
> Subject: [Chevelle-list] timing
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I am in need to get my timing done, and for some reason I lost the 
> sheet of paper that when the cam was degreed in, what was the mark for 
> the timing. So, with that ... I do have my cam specs.  Can the timing 
> be figured out from it or would I have to go by 'feel' ?
>
> Intake Exhaust
> Duration @ 050 224 224
> Lobe Lift 310 310
> Lobe Separation 104 112
> Seat Duration @ 006 276 276
> Gross valve lift 465 465
> Valve lash (hot) 0 0
> Degree #1 intake lobe to: 104 ATDC
>
> Any help would be rad, thanks!
>
> -Graham.
> http://www.projectchevelle.com/
>
>
>









Re: [Chevelle-list] OT: '78 Camaro rear glass

2004-03-29 Thread Wayne
Pete is he hunting for NEW glass only ? might know of a local yard thats has
used...
Wayne
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 5:13 AM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] OT: '78 Camaro rear glass


> Does anyone know of a vendor that does Englishtown, Carlisle, or Hershey;
that carries rear glass for a  78 Camaro and would bring it to one of
the above flea markets?
> It's for a guy at work and he's leary of trying to have it shipped, but
willing to drive a reasonable distance for it.
> Must be NOS or new aftermarket.
> Thanks.
>
>
> Pete Geurds
> Douglassville, PA
>
>
>
>





Re: [Chevelle-list] 1968 Chevelle / 68-72 Elky window regulators

2004-03-29 Thread Ed Riggins
I know in '64-'67 the power window regulator is the same for passenger cars and
El Caminos...
Ed in SF

John Nasta wrote:

> Does anybody happen to know why the power window regulator for 1968 Chevelle
> is also listed as fitting 1968-72 Elky, whereas the manual one for 1968
> Chevelle is not listed as fitting Elky at all? Seems like a misprint on the
> part of the manufacturer. I was hoping somebody would know.
>
> Thanks,
> John Nasta




Re: [Chevelle-list] timing

2004-03-29 Thread Mike Holleman
Graham, When I set timing after having the dist. out I rotate the dist as it
requires to get the engine started, set static timing about where the book
says, get the engine up to operating temp and then set total timing by
running the engine above three grand(or what RPM is needed for total
mechanical advance) and adjust to where you hope to run it. Small blocks
like around 36 degrees or so, but the key is to run the car and be sure you
don't spark knock under load. If you do you are too far advanced. Every
engine is different. My Pontiac 421 likes 40 plus degrees. There are many
people on this list that know way more than me about tuning. Maybe someone
can get you closer than me, but this method will work for most street
engines.
Mike
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From: "Graham Wooden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 8:56 PM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] timing


Hi Dale,

Yeah, ignition timing.  Um, well, I remember the folks who degreed in my cam
wrote down what the timing is supposed to be set at ... So much before or
after top dead center.  I just figured that there was some collation there -
and I wish I could find that paper.
Oh well.

So I guess the timing has be done be feel eh?

-Graham.


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Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] timing


Are you talking ignition timing?  Nothing to do with cam specs.

Dale McIntosh



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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Graham Wooden
> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 6:31 PM
> To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
> Subject: [Chevelle-list] timing
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I am in need to get my timing done, and for some reason I
> lost the sheet of paper that when the cam was degreed in,
> what was the mark for the timing.
> So, with that ... I do have my cam specs.  Can the timing be
> figured out from it or would I have to go by 'feel' ?
>
> Intake Exhaust
> Duration @ 050 224 224
> Lobe Lift 310 310
> Lobe Separation 104 112
> Seat Duration @ 006 276 276
> Gross valve lift 465 465
> Valve lash (hot) 0 0
> Degree #1 intake lobe to: 104 ATDC
>
> Any help would be rad, thanks!
>
> -Graham.
> http://www.projectchevelle.com/
>
>
>







RE: [Chevelle-list] AC Delco oil filters, any good?

2004-03-29 Thread rmpvsp
Wix also makes the filters for NAPA.

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IIRC the CarQuest filters are made by Wix, which is owned by Dana.  Herb
pointed out the Russ Knize oil filter website and your opinion of Fram seems
right in line with his.  ;^)  I haven't heard anything about ACD filters
being made by a 3rd party; would there be anything on the box to indicate
this?  Something along the lines of "mfd. for ACDelco" instead of "mfd. by
ACDelco", perhaps?  I haven't bought an ACD filter for awhile (I can get Wix
filters through my job) but the next time I'm in the store I'll have to
check one out.

Brad O.

> The Car Quest store has cut aparts for oil filters, Fram, AC, and theirs.
>
> Fram is Fram and anybody who has cut stuff apart and compared the
internals
> says they are cheap.  I saw that.
>
> AC Delco has the nice blue finish, but the insides were questionable.  The
> guy was showing me where the spots were where there is no spring for
bypass
> or where there is no rubber seal etc.  He said three or 4 years ago Delco
> was bought or sold out and now the filters are made cheaper.  The brand is
> so strong that they get away with it and nobody knows or cares.
>
> The Car Quest filter of course (how else would the story end?) is built
the
> best.  They have a flimsy red stamp on the case so the appearance looks
kind
> of cheap.  The filter had more good parts in it though.
>
> Has anybody else heard this?
>
> Mark
> 71ss.




Re: [Chevelle-list] AC Delco oil filters, any good?

2004-03-29 Thread bdo_chevelle
IIRC the CarQuest filters are made by Wix, which is owned by Dana.  Herb pointed out 
the Russ Knize oil filter website and your opinion of Fram seems right in line with 
his.  ;^)  I haven't heard anything about ACD filters being made by a 3rd party; would 
there be anything on the box to indicate this?  Something along the lines of "mfd. for 
ACDelco" instead of "mfd. by ACDelco", perhaps?  I haven't bought an ACD filter for 
awhile (I can get Wix filters through my job) but the next time I'm in the store I'll 
have to check one out.

Brad O.

> The Car Quest store has cut aparts for oil filters, Fram, AC, and theirs.
> 
> Fram is Fram and anybody who has cut stuff apart and compared the internals
> says they are cheap.  I saw that.
> 
> AC Delco has the nice blue finish, but the insides were questionable.  The
> guy was showing me where the spots were where there is no spring for bypass
> or where there is no rubber seal etc.  He said three or 4 years ago Delco
> was bought or sold out and now the filters are made cheaper.  The brand is
> so strong that they get away with it and nobody knows or cares.
> 
> The Car Quest filter of course (how else would the story end?) is built the
> best.  They have a flimsy red stamp on the case so the appearance looks kind
> of cheap.  The filter had more good parts in it though.
> 
> Has anybody else heard this?
> 
> Mark
> 71ss.



RE: [Chevelle-list] Trunk monkey

2004-03-29 Thread rmpvsp



Good 
stuff.

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  The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: [Chevelle-list] Trunk 
  monkey
  Has anyone seen the trunk 
  monkey?
  Here is all 4 of them in one 
  place. Very funny.
   
  http://www.suburban-trunkmonkey.com/


Re: Re: [Chevelle-list] AC Delco oil filters, any good?

2004-03-29 Thread chevelle292wagon
I use ACDelco. 
Sure wish they'd quit with the changing parts numbers though.
I'd also use Purolater or WIX if I couldn't get AC. 
Use to use the PF35, now  I use the PF1218.
Same filter with an anti-drainback valve. 


Pete Geurds
Douglassville, PA