[Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block
Does anyone know if a standard 454 crank/rod/piston combo will fit in a tall deck block? I don't know for sure, but I assume because the deck height is 10.2 vs the standard 9.8, the pistons and/or rods will need to be different. TIA Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block
At the very least,the pistons are different. What do you have in mind now,Herb? Clint Hooper HH Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Herb Lumpp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone know if a standard 454 crank/rod/piston combo will fit in a tall deck block? I don't know for sure, but I assume because the deck height is 10.2 vs the standard 9.8, the pistons and/or rods will need to be different. TIA Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm
RE: SV: [Chevelle-list] suggestions on a 12 bolt
Usually with more splines it has a larger shaft hence more strength! From: Rick Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:25 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: SV: [Chevelle-list] suggestions on a 12 bolt Higher spline count= greater strength. With finer (higher count0 splines you have more contact area. Probably more to it than that, but thats all that ITHINK I know about the subject. On 8/11/05, J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm basically looking for the exact same info, Tom.I want one for my '66. Jim --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for all the input..still not sure what I'm gonna do,but if the difference is gonna be 500 bucks I might as well go new..are all theaftermarket rear ends about the same, or is one supposed to be better than theothers? I guess I've heard of Currie and Moser more than any of the othercompanies. I'm sure this is a dumb question but what's the difference in splinenumbers? I'm thinking of getting a 3.73 gear ratio. Thanks again, sure do enjoythis list..it really helps a rookie like me.TomP __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
[Chevelle-list] Trim but no roof??
I was at a show tonight and there was a 68 Malibu there, Grotto Blue with the trim for a vinyl roof, but no vinyl. The fellow who owns it said that was the way the car came from the factory. I tried to get a look at the trim tag, but it was too dark to see I didn't have my glasses on, so I probably couldn't have seen it anyway. I know that I'll see the car again, can I tell whether it had a vinyl roof originally by the trim tag? Have any of you ever seen a Chevelle with the trim but no roof?? Confused again, BillL
RE: [Chevelle-list] Trim but no roof??
Any vinyl topped Chevelle will have a number next to the paint code...like 1 for white or 2 for black (only two available in 68). Two-toned cars also used the same trim. If upper or lower were originally Grotto Blue, tag would read DC (Grotto Blue/White), DE (Grotto Blue/Fathom Blue), or ED (Fathom Blue/Grotto Blue) - lower color being first. A solid color car would not have the trim installed. Dale McIntosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Lessenberry Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 9:02 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Trim but no roof?? I was at a show tonight and there was a 68 Malibu there, Grotto Blue with the trim for a vinyl roof, but no vinyl. The fellow who owns it said that was the way the car came from the factory. I tried to get a look at the trim tag, but it was too dark to see I didn't have my glasses on, so I probably couldn't have seen it anyway. I know that I'll see the car again, can I tell whether it had a vinyl roof originally by the trim tag? Have any of you ever seen a Chevelle with the trim but no roof?? Confused again, BillL
Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block
On tall deck truck engines, the piston has a fourth ring. Also, most of them have gear driven timing sets from the factory. That's all I know for sure. Brian From: Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:39:47 -0500 At the very least,the pistons are different. What do you have in mind now,Herb? Clint Hooper HH Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Herb Lumpp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone know if a standard 454 crank/rod/piston combo will fit in a tall deck block? I don't know for sure, but I assume because the deck height is 10.2 vs the standard 9.8, the pistons and/or rods will need to be different. TIA Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block
Also, it takes a specific intake or else you have to add shims to a short deck intake in order for the head ports to match the intake. Brian From: Brian Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 22:40:41 -0400 On tall deck truck engines, the piston has a fourth ring. Also, most of them have gear driven timing sets from the factory. That's all I know for sure. Brian From: Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:39:47 -0500 At the very least,the pistons are different. What do you have in mind now,Herb? Clint Hooper HH Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Herb Lumpp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone know if a standard 454 crank/rod/piston combo will fit in a tall deck block? I don't know for sure, but I assume because the deck height is 10.2 vs the standard 9.8, the pistons and/or rods will need to be different. TIA Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Chevelle-list] RE:Power Window Kit
Those are for a street rod or other classic that has flat glas and only goes straight up and down. I don't know if the 64/65's have that situation, but I'm pretty sure none of the rest of the Chevelles do, so in most cases these won't work in a Chevelle. I have a 69 Chevelle and I know there's a lot of controversy on if any of them (other than maybe repro factory type) will work properly for the 69. If anyone has any input on aftermarket power windows for a 69 I'm all ears. Steve From: Matt Wettig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: 8/12/2005 10:35:44 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Power Window Kit Anyone ever try one of these in a chevelle? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1,1item=4568517 127sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT
Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block
Opps, one more thing, standard headers don't work. The drivers side will in most cases, but the right side will hit the starter. Brian From: Brian Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 22:40:41 -0400 On tall deck truck engines, the piston has a fourth ring. Also, most of them have gear driven timing sets from the factory. That's all I know for sure. Brian From: Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tall deck big block Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:39:47 -0500 At the very least,the pistons are different. What do you have in mind now,Herb? Clint Hooper HH Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Herb Lumpp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone know if a standard 454 crank/rod/piston combo will fit in a tall deck block? I don't know for sure, but I assume because the deck height is 10.2 vs the standard 9.8, the pistons and/or rods will need to be different. TIA Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
RE: [Chevelle-list] Power Window Kit
Don't think it'd work, Chevelles don't have straight glass. Dale McIntosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Wettig Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 9:40 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] Power Window Kit Anyone ever try one of these in a chevelle? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1,1item=4568517 127sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT
RE: [Chevelle-list] RE:Power Window Kit
Best aftermarket I found are universal from http://www.autoloc.com . Had a complete set in my 67 and the worked like a charm and were very simple to install. http://www.dalesplace.com/images/chevelle/elec_windows.jpg Part of the unit slips over the manual regulator to 'roll' the windows up/down. No need to take the door apart to change all the mechanism. Dale McIntosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 9:45 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] RE:Power Window Kit Those are for a street rod or other classic that has flat glas and only goes straight up and down. I don't know if the 64/65's have that situation, but I'm pretty sure none of the rest of the Chevelles do, so in most cases these won't work in a Chevelle. I have a 69 Chevelle and I know there's a lot of controversy on if any of them (other than maybe repro factory type) will work properly for the 69. If anyone has any input on aftermarket power windows for a 69 I'm all ears. Steve From: Matt Wettig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: 8/12/2005 10:35:44 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Power Window Kit Anyone ever try one of these in a chevelle? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1,1item=4568517 127sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT
RE: SV: [Chevelle-list] suggestions on a 12 bolt
Here are the specs I got on mine (Moser) for my '66: 33 spline axle, posi, 3.55 Richman pro gears, 1350 yoke. The 33 vs. the 30 is supposed to be stronger, though I don't know if most of us will ever need to find out. I also added their trick rear end cover. The whole thing set me back $2500 + $225 shipping. More then I wanted to kick out, but in reality it is getting harder to find them and you'd end up dumping a bunch of money into a used unit to get up to par with this one. You'd think for that kind of coin though they would at least powder coat it Note if going for the 1350 yoke you'll have to modify the drive shaft with one. I wasn't worried about it since my tranny comes with a new one. One company that Keisler recommended to me (I never did call them though) was DTS (www.drivetrainspecialists.com). The guy at Keisler that sold me my tranny was very high on them. Ron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Brady Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:55 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: SV: [Chevelle-list] suggestions on a 12 bolt I'm basically looking for the exact same info, Tom. I want one for my '66. Jim --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for all the input..still not sure what I'm gonna do, but if the difference is gonna be 500 bucks I might as well go new..are all the aftermarket rear ends about the same, or is one supposed to be better than the others? I guess I've heard of Currie and Moser more than any of the other companies. I'm sure this is a dumb question but what's the difference in spline numbers? I'm thinking of getting a 3.73 gear ratio. Thanks again, sure do enjoy this list..it really helps a rookie like me. Tom P __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [Chevelle-list] suggestions on a 12 bolt
I thought long about going that way. Gear changes are as simple as changing the pumpkin out (or so I've heard)..and there is a ton of stuff out there for them. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:50 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] suggestions on a 12 bolt If you can afford a Moser or Currie 12 bolt,you can also afford one of their bolt-in Ford 9 units. There's huge aftermarket support for the 9 and more gear ratios options are available. I'm running a Chris Alston Fab 9 rear in my 69 Elky with Moser 31 spline axles,Detroit Locker diff,Motive Gear 4.11 gearset,and Baer 12 disc brakes. Clint Hooper HH Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: mike f [EMAIL PROTECTED] That was my thought. I upgraded to 33 spline and that will handle any performance this fellow can afford. Also, there was a point about the Moser upper control arm flange casting. They sell some anti-hop brackets for the factory 12 bolt. This seems to be eliminated with Moser casting as they raise the upper mount point which helps with hopping. I think that was the way it was, I could be wrong. mike --- Rick Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Higher spline count = greater strength. With finer (higher count0 splines you have more contact area. Probably more to it than that, but thats all that I THINK I know about the subject. On 8/11/05, J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm basically looking for the exact same info, Tom. I want one for my '66. Jim --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for all the input..still not sure what I'm gonna do, but if the difference is gonna be 500 bucks I might as well go new..are all the aftermarket rear ends about the same, or is one supposed to be better than the others? I guess I've heard of Currie and Moser more than any of the other companies. I'm sure this is a dumb question but what's the difference in spline numbers? I'm thinking of getting a 3.73 gear ratio. Thanks again, sure do enjoy this list..it really helps a rookie like me. Tom P __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: [Chevelle-list] RE:Power Window Kit
Dale, The power windows, nice setup, I like that. Did it go fast down, and slow up like the factory ones? -Tim
