Re: [Chevelle-list] Update!
Nice work. Do you know the history on this car? How it made it over there, etc... Also what are the two reflectors below the rear bumper for? Godspeed, Dan Solomon It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry. http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/ -Original Message- From: Pelle Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:28:53 To:The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Update! Hi! Should have included this link instead: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pellechevelle/sets/72157600027680861/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/pellechevelle/sets/72157600027680861/ Mvh Pelle From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 20:47:36 -0500 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Update! Pelle, First off... Congratulations on the pending births. There is nothing better than having children. They can drive you to the edge, but it is truly the greatest gift that God can give us. Now that that is out of the way... Is your ride the 64-65 of the 71-72? Godspeed, Dan Solomon It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry. http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/ http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 12:34:03 +0100 Subject: [Chevelle-list] Update! Hi! Haven't been around for a while due to my GF's pregnancy! But after a somewhat troublesome start of her pregnancy we're expecting twins I all goes well the remaining time :-) Have pulled the engine the block is ready for some machining. Some pics here http://www.flickr.com/photos/pellechevelle/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/pellechevelle/ the page is partly in Swedish but as they say a picture says more than a thousand words ;-) But I guess that the priorities will be a little bit different now ;-) Best regards Pelle __ Chevelle gearheads http://hem.bredband.net/chevellegearheads/ http://hem.bredband.net/chevellegearheads/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/pellechevelle/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/pellechevelle/ http://www.chevelleforum.se/ http://www.chevelleforum.se/ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! MSN Messenger
Re: [Chevelle-list] Update!
Nice work. Do you know the history on this car? How it made it over there, etc... Also what are the two reflectors below the rear bumper for? --Original Message-- From: Pelle Andersson Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle List ReplyTo: Chevelle List Sent: Jan 7, 2008 2:28 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Update! Hi! Should have included this link instead: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pellechevelle/sets/72157600027680861/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/pellechevelle/sets/72157600027680861/ Mvh Pelle From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 20:47:36 -0500 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Update! Pelle, First off... Congratulations on the pending births. There is nothing better than having children. They can drive you to the edge, but it is truly the greatest gift that God can give us. Now that that is out of the way... Is your ride the 64-65 of the 71-72? Godspeed, Dan Solomon It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry. http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/ http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 12:34:03 +0100 Subject: [Chevelle-list] Update! Hi! Haven't been around for a while due to my GF's pregnancy! But after a somewhat troublesome start of her pregnancy we're expecting twins I all goes well the remaining time :-) Have pulled the engine the block is ready for some machining. Some pics here http://www.flickr.com/photos/pellechevelle/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/pellechevelle/ the page is partly in Swedish but as they say a picture says more than a thousand words ;-) But I guess that the priorities will be a little bit different now ;-) Godspeed, Dan Solomon It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry. http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/
Re: [Chevelle-list] Carburetor
Go here John, and scroll down to size.exe. http://www.chevelles.com/shop/programs.shtml - Original Message - From: Johnny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 10:29 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Carburetor I found a deal on an new carb for my small block..Its a Edelbrock #1407 750cfmThe engine is a 327 bored .030 over with 2.02 camel heads...a 230 duration .480 lift cam..headers...Is a 750 cfm too big of a carb???It won't be such a good deal if I can't use it.. John 66 Malibu 327 4 speed.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Carburetor
I'm surprised I got this one. I am blocking all emails with size in the text. - Original Message - From: Malibu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Carburetor Go here John, and scroll down to size.exe. http://www.chevelles.com/shop/programs.shtml
Re: [Chevelle-list] Carburetor
If I'm not mistaken. The spam blocker will only block it if size is in the subject line. Spam blockers can't read your mail only the subject. - Original Message - From: Jim Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Carburetor I'm surprised I got this one. I am blocking all emails with size in the text. - Original Message - From: Malibu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Carburetor Go here John, and scroll down to size.exe. http://www.chevelles.com/shop/programs.shtml
Re: [Chevelle-list] best self-install kit?
Tom, You mentioned that you had to cut and expand pipes on each of the installs. What type of tool is used to expand the pipes inexpensively at home? Thanks, Matt At 08:50 PM 1/6/2008, Tom Rightler wrote: Jim, The Flowmaster or Pypes systems really aren't all that hard to install in your garage. I've done several exhaust systems in a day taking my time and making sure everything fits as it should. I put a system on a 72 Monte Carlo with stock manifolds that consisted of a set of down pipes (from Pypes) that made up the length difference from the stock manifold to where a typical header would dump out at, then finished it off with one of those cheap Summit Racing systems. It went OK at best, the generic Summit kit was not my choice, but the owner of the car wanting to get it done cheaply. I put the Flowmaster American Thunder system with the 40 series mufflers on my 70 back in 2000. It does fit the car nice, no complaints there, just the mufflers rotted out on the bottom and blew the baffles loose so I need to replace them. That was a system off a set of Dynomax Headers. I put the Pypes 2.5 X Crossover system on the Charger. It was one of the best fitting systems I've ever put on a car...seriously. The only problem I ran into with it are where the Hooker Super Comp headers dumped out under the body. They didn't line up with the humps in the trans crossmember so I had to be a little creative there and use a mandrel bent pipe to complete the system. I used their Race Flo Mufflers that came with the system. Overall, the mufflers sound OK at best, and the car doesn't have that MOPAR sound like it should. I'm considering changing the mufflers out. On my 86 Cutlass that I put a 350 in and full length headers, I used a Dynomax dual system designed for G body cars with small block chevy engines. The system fit OK. I don't like how they get around the fact that G body trans crossmembers don't have 2 humps in them for dual exhaust. They bend the pipe around and then try to tuck up back up. That system has been on that car since 2001 and it's rotting and falling apart, probably in part to the fact I was driving the car thourgh those wonderful NJ winters for a couple years until I got the truck. I would imagine the system they have for 68-72 A body GM would be a tad better in quality. All of these systems can be installed in 1 day by yourself and as long as you have certain tools like a pipe cutter or sawzall and some wrenches. I've had to cut and expand pipes on each of the installs I listed above. Tom Rightler MCC Newsletter Editor - Original Message - From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] best self-install kit? That's one thing about my current system that's probably working out as a good thing- since it's not sealed real well right now, all the moisture drains out on the floor in my garage!! 8^] I appreciate everyone' input on this, thanks so much. I saw the Pypes setup in either my Jegs or Summit catalog, and knew nada about their stuff, so it's good to hear some feedback on it. And I guess you guys are concluding from me talking about an exhaust swap, that I decided NOT to trade the car 8^] The exhaust thing has been the biggest thing bumming me out about the vehicle, so if I can get that resolved I think I'll be in a much better place. Regards, Jim --- John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OTOH, I've had Flowmasters on my 69 El Camino for about 4 years, and it is a driver that I park on the street and drive in all kinds of weather, and everything is fine. No signs of rust or rot anywhere. Maybe just the fact that I drive it more often keeps the water from sitting in there long enough to do damage. Leaving a car sitting (esp. in this kind of weather) is probably bad for just about any muffler. Just throwing out an alternative experience. Your results may vary. John Quoting Tom Rightler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The Flowmaster kit was easy to install on my 70, however, after 6 years and less than 20K miles, the mufflers blew out on the bottom from moisture collecting and now they need to be replaced. The pipes themselves are not in that great of shape either and this is on a car that doesn't go out in the rain. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 11:57 AM
Re: [Chevelle-list] Fwd: best self-install kit?
The holes have a slight rust halo around it, but other than that the metal seems solid. IF I can find my camera (its been misplaced since Christmas) I'll post a picture of them. I did not want the pipes welded so that is why I chose to do it myself. On Jan 6, 2008 6:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed a flowmaster system on my car as well. I probably would have had it done at a shop but I needed to install it at my house so I could drive it to the body shop. I am curious. Did the 1/8 holes you drilled in the mufflers rust badly over the years? Godspeed, Dan Solomon It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry. http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/ -Original Message- From: Rick Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 10:33:09 To:chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Fwd: best self-install kit? Flowmaster system has been good to me for almost 10 years. Still solid. I did do 2 things to help it last. Drilled a 1/8 in hole in bottom of the mufflers for water drain also coated the inside of the pipes with POR-15, used a sponge for that. -- Forwarded message -- From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jan 6, 2008 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] best self-install kit? To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net mailto: chevelle-list@chevelles.net That's one thing about my current system that's probably working out as a good thing- since it's not sealed real well right now, all the moisture drains out on the floor in my garage!! 8^] I appreciate everyone' input on this, thanks so much. I saw the Pypes setup in either my Jegs or Summit catalog, and knew nada about their stuff, so it's good to hear some feedback on it. And I guess you guys are concluding from me talking about an exhaust swap, that I decided NOT to trade the car 8^] The exhaust thing has been the biggest thing bumming me out about the vehicle, so if I can get that resolved I think I'll be in a much better place. Regards, Jim --- John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OTOH, I've had Flowmasters on my 69 El Camino for about 4 years, and it is a driver that I park on the street and drive in all kinds of weather, and everything is fine. No signs of rust or rot anywhere. Maybe just the fact that I drive it more often keeps the water from sitting in there long enough to do damage. Leaving a car sitting (esp. in this kind of weather) is probably bad for just about any muffler. Just throwing out an alternative experience. Your results may vary. John Quoting Tom Rightler [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : The Flowmaster kit was easy to install on my 70, however, after 6 years and less than 20K miles, the mufflers blew out on the bottom from moisture collecting and now they need to be replaced. The pipes themselves are not in that great of shape either and this is on a car that doesn't go out in the rain. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
Re: [Chevelle-list] best self-install kit?
-- Original message -- From: Matthew Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] You mentioned that you had to cut and expand pipes on each of the installs. What type of tool is used to expand the pipes inexpensively at home? I have a pipe expander/shaper that is basically a bunch of cast iron segments arranged in a circle and held in place by a couple of heavy rubber o-rings. A screw-driven wedge is in the middle of the circle and as the screw is tightened the wedge moves down and forces the segments to expand outward against the ID of the pipe. It works OK for reshaping and slight expansion but that's about it. Exhaust shops probably have some kind of hydraulic expander that can apply much greater force to the pipe. Brad
Re: [Chevelle-list] Carburetor
Jim, Are you saying that size does not matter? I'm here to tell you it does.with respect to the size of the antlers and the size of the fish! G -- Original message -- From: Jim Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm surprised I got this one. I am blocking all emails with size in the text. - Original Message - From: Malibu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Carburetor Go here John, and scroll down to size.exe. http://www.chevelles.com/shop/programs.shtml
Re: [Chevelle-list] best self-install kit?
Thanks Brad. I'll look for something like that. I've seen the hydraulic ones the shops have, but never seen a hand tool that would work. At 08:47 AM 1/7/2008, you wrote: -- Original message -- From: Matthew Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] You mentioned that you had to cut and expand pipes on each of the installs. What type of tool is used to expand the pipes inexpensively at home? I have a pipe expander/shaper that is basically a bunch of cast iron segments arranged in a circle and held in place by a couple of heavy rubber o-rings. A screw-driven wedge is in the middle of the circle and as the screw is tightened the wedge moves down and forces the segments to expand outward against the ID of the pipe. It works OK for reshaping and slight expansion but that's about it. Exhaust shops probably have some kind of hydraulic expander that can apply much greater force to the pipe. Brad
Re: [Chevelle-list] best self-install kit?
Check http://www.lislecorp.com/tool_search_results.cfm?Search=tailpipe - if link doesn't work, go to http://www.lislecorp.com/tool_index.cfm and search for 'tailpipe'. Dale McIntosh ChevelleCD.com ChevelleStuff.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:chevelle-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Post Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 11:03 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] best self-install kit? Thanks Brad. I'll look for something like that. I've seen the hydraulic ones the shops have, but never seen a hand tool that would work. _ avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 080106-0, 01/06/2008 Tested on: 1/7/2008 11:55:33 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software.
Re: [Chevelle-list] best self-install kit?
Mine is the 32500/32750 style, and most likely a Lisle. Brad -- Original message -- From: Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check http://www.lislecorp.com/tool_search_results.cfm?Search=tailpipe - if link doesn't work, go to http://www.lislecorp.com/tool_index.cfm and search for 'tailpipe'. Dale McIntosh ChevelleCD.com ChevelleStuff.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:chevelle-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Post Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 11:03 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] best self-install kit? Thanks Brad. I'll look for something like that. I've seen the hydraulic ones the shops have, but never seen a hand tool that would work.
Re: [Chevelle-list] best self-install kit?
Thanks Dale/Brad! At 10:18 AM 1/7/2008, Brad Olson wrote: Mine is the 32500/32750 style, and most likely a Lisle. Brad -- Original message -- From: Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check http://www.lislecorp.com/tool_search_results.cfm?Search=tailpipe - if link doesn't work, go to http://www.lislecorp.com/tool_index.cfm and search for 'tailpipe'. Dale McIntosh ChevelleCD.com ChevelleStuff.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:chevelle-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Post Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 11:03 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] best self-install kit? Thanks Brad. I'll look for something like that. I've seen the hydraulic ones the shops have, but never seen a hand tool that would work.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Carburetor
This link doesn't seem to work. Looks like a handy utility though.Godspeed, Dan SolomonIt is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry.http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:28:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Carburetor Go here John, and scroll down to size.exe. http://www.chevelles.com/shop/programs.shtml - Original Message - From: Johnny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 10:29 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Carburetor I found a deal on an new carb for my small block..Its a Edelbrock #1407 750cfmThe engine is a 327 bored .030 over with 2.02 camel heads...a 230 duration .480 lift cam..headers...Is a 750 cfm too big of a carb???It won't be such a good deal if I can't use it.. John 66 Malibu 327 4 speed.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Carburetor
Does look like a handy unit...I will keep trying.. Thank you for your help John 66 Malibu 327 4 speed
Re: [Chevelle-list] best self-install kit?
I used a sawzall and a vice to cut the pipes that needed it. I have an expander that you can use with a 1 1/8th socket and an impact gun. It worked out well. Tom - Original Message - From: Matthew Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net; The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] best self-install kit? Tom, You mentioned that you had to cut and expand pipes on each of the installs. What type of tool is used to expand the pipes inexpensively at home? Thanks, Matt At 08:50 PM 1/6/2008, Tom Rightler wrote: Jim, The Flowmaster or Pypes systems really aren't all that hard to install in your garage. I've done several exhaust systems in a day taking my time and making sure everything fits as it should. I put a system on a 72 Monte Carlo with stock manifolds that consisted of a set of down pipes (from Pypes) that made up the length difference from the stock manifold to where a typical header would dump out at, then finished it off with one of those cheap Summit Racing systems. It went OK at best, the generic Summit kit was not my choice, but the owner of the car wanting to get it done cheaply. I put the Flowmaster American Thunder system with the 40 series mufflers on my 70 back in 2000. It does fit the car nice, no complaints there, just the mufflers rotted out on the bottom and blew the baffles loose so I need to replace them. That was a system off a set of Dynomax Headers. I put the Pypes 2.5 X Crossover system on the Charger. It was one of the best fitting systems I've ever put on a car...seriously. The only problem I ran into with it are where the Hooker Super Comp headers dumped out under the body. They didn't line up with the humps in the trans crossmember so I had to be a little creative there and use a mandrel bent pipe to complete the system. I used their Race Flo Mufflers that came with the system. Overall, the mufflers sound OK at best, and the car doesn't have that MOPAR sound like it should. I'm considering changing the mufflers out. On my 86 Cutlass that I put a 350 in and full length headers, I used a Dynomax dual system designed for G body cars with small block chevy engines. The system fit OK. I don't like how they get around the fact that G body trans crossmembers don't have 2 humps in them for dual exhaust. They bend the pipe around and then try to tuck up back up. That system has been on that car since 2001 and it's rotting and falling apart, probably in part to the fact I was driving the car thourgh those wonderful NJ winters for a couple years until I got the truck. I would imagine the system they have for 68-72 A body GM would be a tad better in quality. All of these systems can be installed in 1 day by yourself and as long as you have certain tools like a pipe cutter or sawzall and some wrenches. I've had to cut and expand pipes on each of the installs I listed above. Tom Rightler MCC Newsletter Editor - Original Message - From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] best self-install kit? That's one thing about my current system that's probably working out as a good thing- since it's not sealed real well right now, all the moisture drains out on the floor in my garage!! 8^] I appreciate everyone' input on this, thanks so much. I saw the Pypes setup in either my Jegs or Summit catalog, and knew nada about their stuff, so it's good to hear some feedback on it. And I guess you guys are concluding from me talking about an exhaust swap, that I decided NOT to trade the car 8^] The exhaust thing has been the biggest thing bumming me out about the vehicle, so if I can get that resolved I think I'll be in a much better place. Regards, Jim --- John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OTOH, I've had Flowmasters on my 69 El Camino for about 4 years, and it is a driver that I park on the street and drive in all kinds of weather, and everything is fine. No signs of rust or rot anywhere. Maybe just the fact that I drive it more often keeps the water from sitting in there long enough to do damage. Leaving a car sitting (esp. in this kind of weather) is probably bad for just about any muffler. Just throwing out an alternative experience. Your results may vary. John Quoting Tom Rightler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The Flowmaster kit was easy to install on my 70, however, after 6 years and less than 20K miles, the mufflers blew out on the bottom from moisture collecting and now they need to be replaced. The pipes themselves are not in that great of shape either and this is on a car that doesn't go out in the rain. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with
Re: [Chevelle-list] best self-install kit?
One of those air powered cutoff wheels works well too. That's what I used on mine. A friend made the down-pipes for me (b/c I have stock x-mans) and expanded the ends of them to fit into the 2.5 Flowmaster pipes. My brother also gave me some sleeves that you can put between the smaller and the bigger pipe but I didn't need to use them. I still have them (in my kitchen where auto parts belong). Quoting Tom Rightler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I used a sawzall and a vice to cut the pipes that needed it. I have an expander that you can use with a 1 1/8th socket and an impact gun. It worked out well. Tom - Original Message - From: Matthew Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net; The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] best self-install kit? Tom, You mentioned that you had to cut and expand pipes on each of the installs. What type of tool is used to expand the pipes inexpensively at home? Thanks, Matt At 08:50 PM 1/6/2008, Tom Rightler wrote: Jim, The Flowmaster or Pypes systems really aren't all that hard to install in your garage. I've done several exhaust systems in a day taking my time and making sure everything fits as it should. I put a system on a 72 Monte Carlo with stock manifolds that consisted of a set of down pipes (from Pypes) that made up the length difference from the stock manifold to where a typical header would dump out at, then finished it off with one of those cheap Summit Racing systems. It went OK at best, the generic Summit kit was not my choice, but the owner of the car wanting to get it done cheaply. I put the Flowmaster American Thunder system with the 40 series mufflers on my 70 back in 2000. It does fit the car nice, no complaints there, just the mufflers rotted out on the bottom and blew the baffles loose so I need to replace them. That was a system off a set of Dynomax Headers. I put the Pypes 2.5 X Crossover system on the Charger. It was one of the best fitting systems I've ever put on a car...seriously. The only problem I ran into with it are where the Hooker Super Comp headers dumped out under the body. They didn't line up with the humps in the trans crossmember so I had to be a little creative there and use a mandrel bent pipe to complete the system. I used their Race Flo Mufflers that came with the system. Overall, the mufflers sound OK at best, and the car doesn't have that MOPAR sound like it should. I'm considering changing the mufflers out. On my 86 Cutlass that I put a 350 in and full length headers, I used a Dynomax dual system designed for G body cars with small block chevy engines. The system fit OK. I don't like how they get around the fact that G body trans crossmembers don't have 2 humps in them for dual exhaust. They bend the pipe around and then try to tuck up back up. That system has been on that car since 2001 and it's rotting and falling apart, probably in part to the fact I was driving the car thourgh those wonderful NJ winters for a couple years until I got the truck. I would imagine the system they have for 68-72 A body GM would be a tad better in quality. All of these systems can be installed in 1 day by yourself and as long as you have certain tools like a pipe cutter or sawzall and some wrenches. I've had to cut and expand pipes on each of the installs I listed above. Tom Rightler MCC Newsletter Editor - Original Message - From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] best self-install kit? That's one thing about my current system that's probably working out as a good thing- since it's not sealed real well right now, all the moisture drains out on the floor in my garage!! 8^] I appreciate everyone' input on this, thanks so much. I saw the Pypes setup in either my Jegs or Summit catalog, and knew nada about their stuff, so it's good to hear some feedback on it. And I guess you guys are concluding from me talking about an exhaust swap, that I decided NOT to trade the car 8^] The exhaust thing has been the biggest thing bumming me out about the vehicle, so if I can get that resolved I think I'll be in a much better place. Regards, Jim --- John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OTOH, I've had Flowmasters on my 69 El Camino for about 4 years, and it is a driver that I park on the street and drive in all kinds of weather, and everything is fine. No signs of rust or rot anywhere. Maybe just the fact that I drive it more often keeps the water from sitting in there long enough to do damage. Leaving a car sitting (esp. in this kind of weather) is probably bad for just about any muffler. Just throwing out an alternative experience. Your results may
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That's what I keep telling my wife.. - Original Message - From: Rich Pruett To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Carburetor Jim, Are you saying that size does not matter? I'm here to tell you it does.with respect to the size of the antlers and the size of the fish! G -- Original message -- From: Jim Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm surprised I got this one. I am blocking all emails with size in the text. - Original Message - From: Malibu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Carburetor Go here John, and scroll down to size.exe. http://www.chevelles.com/shop/programs.shtml
[Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information
To anyone who can help me out: I tried to find the answer in other forums, but had no luck. I'm having difficulties about finding the right appropriate size and brand of sway bar to choose from that will fit my application and that will not do me vehicle more harm than good. I was looking at the hotchkis bars, but they use polyurethane bushings and I don't really want to deal with the squeaking. I'm thinking about getting the 1 1/4 or the 1 3/8 front bar. Then later on get the rear 1 sway bar. Would this be a good set up or is it too much? For the Hotchkis bars, I heard that some have had their sway bars break since they are made as hollow. Is this correct? I believe GP superstore is giving a 20% discount on Hotchkis parts. Also, some car owners have suggested that OPGI has good heat treated sway bars. Does any one know of these bars being worth the buy? I use my 1970 chevelle as a street driver car, which has a 350 engine, 350 tranny, rebuilt 12 bolt 3.47 non-posi rear end, with some high performance parts here and there. I bought the lower box rear control arms from Ground Up. Most of the front suspension is of Moog parts and have front and rear Hotchkis springs with KYB shocks up front and Monroe shocks at rear. My car never sees the track, since it's not built as a racing car. However, if it helps, later on I will beef up the engine to a 383 in the future. I have never had that experience driving with any sway bar, front or rear, that I don't know how it feels. Some people say it's better and you can really feel the difference than without one. Some also say to never drive on the streets without one. I don't have one and I drive on the streets all the time. I mean, I do feel that lean feel on the car that people talk about. So, should I invest in a pair of sway bars after all? I'm all for any improvments in my driving handling. Bottom line, can anyone please point me in the right direction with specific choices in helping me choose the right combination of size for the front and rear sway bars and what brand out of many is the best for me? It will be highly appreciated. thanks -Eddie -- Got No Time? Shop Online for Great Gift Ideas! http://mail.shopping.com/?linkin_id=8033174
Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information
I put the big sway bar from a 2nd gen Firebird onto my Chevelle. Bolts right up, and really firms up the front end. It made a noticeable improvement in front end handling. Of course, those swaybars may be a little harder to find in the salvage yards than they were 15 years ago.. take care, Mike -- I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, Than live my life as if there isn't, And die to find out there is. -Blaise Pascal Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200.00 and a substantial tax cut saves you $30.00? Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com TREMEC Distributor at http://www.5speedTransmissions.com Team Chevelle member #1778 (Gold), ACES member #1377 Hoosier State Chevelle Assoc (http://www.IndianaChevelles.com) #6 Eduardo (Eddie) Gamino wrote: To anyone who can help me out: I tried to find the answer in other forums, but had no luck. I'm having difficulties about finding the right appropriate size and brand of sway bar to choose from that will fit my application and that will not do me vehicle more harm than good. I was looking at the hotchkis bars, but they use polyurethane bushings and I don't really want to deal with the squeaking. I'm thinking about getting the 1 1/4 or the 1 3/8 front bar. Then later on get the rear 1 sway bar. Would this be a good set up or is it too much? For the Hotchkis bars, I heard that some have had their sway bars break since they are made as hollow. Is this correct? I believe GP superstore is giving a 20% discount on Hotchkis parts. Also, some car owners have suggested that OPGI has good heat treated sway bars. Does any one know of these bars being worth the buy? I use my 1970 chevelle as a street driver car, which has a 350 engine, 350 tranny, rebuilt 12 bolt 3.47 non-posi rear end, with some high performance parts here and there. I bought the lower box rear control arms from Ground Up. Most of the front suspension is of Moog parts and have front and rear Hotchkis springs with KYB shocks up front and Monroe shocks at rear. My car never sees the track, since it's not built as a racing car. However, if it helps, later on I will beef up the engine to a 383 in the future. I have never had that experience driving with any sway bar, front or rear, that I don't know how it feels. Some people say it's better and you can really feel the difference than without one. Some also say to never drive on the streets without one. I don't have one and I drive on the streets all the time. I mean, I do feel that lean feel on the car that people talk about. So, should I invest in a pair of sway bars after all? I'm all for any improvments in my driving handling. Bottom line, can anyone please point me in the right direction with specific choices in helping me choose the right combination of size for the front and rear sway bars and what brand out of many is the best for me? It will be highly appreciated. thanks -Eddie
Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information
OPGI gets their sway bars from Aadco and Hellwig, or at least they used to. It's been a long time since I have bought anything from those guys.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information
The Hotchkis bar has grease fittings. I have never noticed any squeeking from it. Mike - Original Message - From: Eduardo (Eddie) Gamino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 8:41 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information To anyone who can help me out: I tried to find the answer in other forums, but had no luck. I'm having difficulties about finding the right appropriate size and brand of sway bar to choose from that will fit my application and that will not do me vehicle more harm than good. I was looking at the hotchkis bars, but they use polyurethane bushings and I don't really want to deal with the squeaking. I'm thinking about getting the 1 1/4 or the 1 3/8 front bar. Then later on get the rear 1 sway bar. Would this be a good set up or is it too much? For the Hotchkis bars, I heard that some have had their sway bars break since they are made as hollow. Is this correct? I believe GP superstore is giving a 20% discount on Hotchkis parts. Also, some car owners have suggested that OPGI has good heat treated sway bars. Does any one know of these bars being worth the buy? I use my 1970 chevelle as a street driver car, which has a 350 engine, 350 tranny, rebuilt 12 bolt 3.47 non-posi rear end, with some high performance parts here and there. I bought the lower box rear control arms from Ground Up. Most of the front suspension is of Moog parts and have front and rear Hotchkis springs with KYB shocks up front and Monroe shocks at rear. My car never sees the track, since it's not built as a racing car. However, if it helps, later on I will beef up the engine to a 383 in the future. I have never had that experience driving with any sway bar, front or rear, that I don't know how it feels. Some people say it's better and you can really feel the difference than without one. Some also say to never drive on the streets without one. I don't have one and I drive on the streets all the time. I mean, I do feel that lean feel on the car that people talk about. So, should I invest in a pair of sway bars after all? I'm all for any improvments in my driving handling. Bottom line, can anyone please point me in the right direction with specific choices in helping me choose the right combination of size for the front and rear sway bars and what brand out of many is the best for me? It will be highly appreciated. thanks -Eddie -- Got No Time? Shop Online for Great Gift Ideas! http://mail.shopping.com/?linkin_id=8033174 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM
Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information
Your Chevelle does have a front sway bar, all Chevelles do as probably most rear wheel cars do - not a suspension guru. Sway bars are designed to reduce body roll when turning. Engine size/horsepower has nothing to do really with it although higher horsepower cars that the mfg. figured would be 'driven' a bit harder than usual include larger front bars plus the additional rear bar. To see good pros and cons, check Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sway_bar and maybe the article at http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question432.htm will help some. If you plan on tossing the car around from side to side in say a slalom course or drive a lot of winding roads where control is the ultimate objective, then by all means a larger front and additional rear bar is a good investment. Dale McIntosh ChevelleCD.com ChevelleStuff.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:chevelle-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eduardo (Eddie) Gamino Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 7:42 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information To anyone who can help me out: I tried to find the answer in other forums, but had no luck. I'm having difficulties about finding the right appropriate size and brand of sway bar to choose from that will fit my application and that will not do me vehicle more harm than good. I was looking at the hotchkis bars, but they use polyurethane bushings and I don't really want to deal with the squeaking. I'm thinking about getting the 1 1/4 or the 1 3/8 front bar. Then later on get the rear 1 sway bar. Would this be a good set up or is it too much? For the Hotchkis bars, I heard that some have had their sway bars break since they are made as hollow. Is this correct? I believe GP superstore is giving a 20% discount on Hotchkis parts. Also, some car owners have suggested that OPGI has good heat treated sway bars. Does any one know of these bars being worth the buy? I use my 1970 chevelle as a street driver car, which has a 350 engine, 350 tranny, rebuilt 12 bolt 3.47 non-posi rear end, with some high performance parts here and there. I bought the lower box rear control arms from Ground Up. Most of the front suspension is of Moog parts and have front and rear Hotchkis springs with KYB shocks up front and Monroe shocks at rear. My car never sees the track, since it's not built as a racing car. However, if it helps, later on I will beef up the engine to a 383 in the future. I have never had that experience driving with any sway bar, front or rear, that I don't know how it feels. Some people say it's better and you can really feel the difference than without one. Some also say to never drive on the streets without one. I don't have one and I drive on the streets all the time. I mean, I do feel that lean feel on the car that people talk about. So, should I invest in a pair of sway bars after all? I'm all for any improvments in my driving handling. Bottom line, can anyone please point me in the right direction with specific choices in helping me choose the right combination of size for the front and rear sway bars and what brand out of many is the best for me? It will be highly appreciated. thanks -Eddie -- Got No Time? Shop Online for Great Gift Ideas! http://mail.shopping.com/?linkin_id=8033174 _ avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 080107-0, 01/07/2008 Tested on: 1/7/2008 8:17:58 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information
Just an FYI, if you apply some of the supplied grease thatcome with the poly bushings, they won't squeak. I've had polyurethane bushings on my 70 for 8 years and they have never squeaked. You can get repro factory sway bars from just about any of the resto parts suppliers. Tom Rightler MCC Newsletter Editor - Original Message - From: Eduardo (Eddie) Gamino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 8:41 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information To anyone who can help me out: I tried to find the answer in other forums, but had no luck. I'm having difficulties about finding the right appropriate size and brand of sway bar to choose from that will fit my application and that will not do me vehicle more harm than good. I was looking at the hotchkis bars, but they use polyurethane bushings and I don't really want to deal with the squeaking. I'm thinking about getting the 1 1/4 or the 1 3/8 front bar. Then later on get the rear 1 sway bar. Would this be a good set up or is it too much? For the Hotchkis bars, I heard that some have had their sway bars break since they are made as hollow. Is this correct? I believe GP superstore is giving a 20% discount on Hotchkis parts. Also, some car owners have suggested that OPGI has good heat treated sway bars. Does any one know of these bars being worth the buy? I use my 1970 chevelle as a street driver car, which has a 350 engine, 350 tranny, rebuilt 12 bolt 3.47 non-posi rear end, with some high performance parts here and there. I bought the lower box rear control arms from Ground Up. Most of the front suspension is of Moog parts and have front and rear Hotchkis springs with KYB shocks up front and Monroe shocks at rear. My car never sees the track, since it's not built as a racing car. However, if it helps, later on I will beef up the engine to a 383 in the future. I have never had that experience driving with any sway bar, front or rear, that I don't know how it feels. Some people say it's better and you can really feel the difference than without one. Some also say to never drive on the streets without one. I don't have one and I drive on the streets all the time. I mean, I do feel that lean feel on the car that people talk about. So, should I invest in a pair of sway bars after all? I'm all for any improvments in my driving handling. Bottom line, can anyone please point me in the right direction with specific choices in helping me choose the right combination of size for the front and rear sway bars and what brand out of many is the best for me? It will be highly appreciated. thanks -Eddie -- Got No Time? Shop Online for Great Gift Ideas! http://mail.shopping.com/?linkin_id=8033174 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM
[Chevelle-list] last year for non-concealed wipers
I used to know this, but what was the last year for non-concealed wipers on the Chevelle? Was it 1967? Thanks
Re: [Chevelle-list] last year for non-concealed wipers
They had them right up to at least 1972. The base model Chevelle..below the Malibu line had non concealed wipers. Tom - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:06 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] last year for non-concealed wipers I used to know this, but what was the last year for non-concealed wipers on the Chevelle? Was it 1967? Thanks -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1212 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 10:55 PM
Re: [Chevelle-list] last year for non-concealed wipers
Ok thanks. I have one of those AC/Delco washer pumps for 1965-67 and beyond that for cars w/ non-concealed wipers. In the original Delco box, never used. I was going to put it on ebay, but if anybody here is interested I'll give the list first crack at it. John Quoting Tom Rightler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: They had them right up to at least 1972. The base model Chevelle..below the Malibu line had non concealed wipers. Tom - Original Message - From: John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:06 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] last year for non-concealed wipers I used to know this, but what was the last year for non-concealed wipers on the Chevelle? Was it 1967? Thanks -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1212 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 10:55 PM
Re: [Chevelle-list] last year for non-concealed wipers
I am interested,I sent mine to Ecklers and I didn't get mine back, newer washer. They made two washer pumps, does this one look like the newer pump? Email me off the list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks Darrell **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information
Eddie- I too have one off of a late 70's Trans Am. I paid $15 for it in a junkyard about 10 years ago. They're likely a little harder to find and more costly now, but far less than an aftermarket bar. Mine measures 1 1/8. I have a stock 7/8 on the rear I added later, don't care for it in corners, but it does help at the strip so I keep it. Devin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eduardo (Eddie) Gamino Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 5:42 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information To anyone who can help me out: I tried to find the answer in other forums, but had no luck. I'm having difficulties about finding the right appropriate size and brand of sway bar to choose from that will fit my application and that will not do me vehicle more harm than good. I was looking at the hotchkis bars, but they use polyurethane bushings and I don't really want to deal with the squeaking. I'm thinking about getting the 1 1/4 or the 1 3/8 front bar. Then later on get the rear 1 sway bar. Would this be a good set up or is it too much? For the Hotchkis bars, I heard that some have had their sway bars break since they are made as hollow. Is this correct? I believe GP superstore is giving a 20% discount on Hotchkis parts. Also, some car owners have suggested that OPGI has good heat treated sway bars. Does any one know of these bars being worth the buy? I use my 1970 chevelle as a street driver car, which has a 350 engine, 350 tranny, rebuilt 12 bolt 3.47 non-posi rear end, with some high performance parts here and there. I bought the lower box rear control arms from Ground Up. Most of the front suspension is of Moog parts and have front and rear Hotchkis springs with KYB shocks up front and Monroe shocks at rear. My car never sees the track, since it's not built as a racing car. However, if it helps, later on I will beef up the engine to a 383 in the future. I have never had that experience driving with any sway bar, front or rear, that I don't know how it feels. Some people say it's better and you can really feel the difference than without one. Some also say to never drive on the streets without one. I don't have one and I drive on the streets all the time. I mean, I do feel that lean feel on the car that people talk about. So, should I invest in a pair of sway bars after all? I'm all for any improvments in my driving handling. Bottom line, can anyone please point me in the right direction with specific choices in helping me choose the right combination of size for the front and rear sway bars and what brand out of many is the best for me? It will be highly appreciated. thanks -Eddie -- Got No Time? Shop Online for Great Gift Ideas! http://mail.shopping.com/?linkin_id=8033174 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1212 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 10:55 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1212 - Release Date: 1/6/2008 10:55 PM
Re: [Chevelle-list] Please help! Sway bar information
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, Eduardo (Eddie) Gamino wrote: To anyone who can help me out: I tried to find the answer in other forums, but had no luck. I'm having difficulties about finding the right appropriate size and brand of sway bar to choose from that will fit my application and that will not do me vehicle more harm than good. I was looking at the hotchkis bars, but they use polyurethane bushings and I don't really want to deal with the squeaking. I'm thinking about getting the 1 1/4 or the 1 3/8 front bar. Then later on get the rear 1 sway bar. Would this be a good set up or is it too much? For the Hotchkis bars, I heard that some have had their sway bars break since they are made as hollow. Is this correct? I believe GP superstore is giving a 20% discount on Hotchkis parts. Also, some car owners have suggested that OPGI has good heat treated sway bars. Does any one know of these bars being worth the buy? I use my 1970 chevelle as a street driver car, which has a 350 engine, 350 tranny, rebuilt 12 bolt 3.47 non-posi rear end, with some high performance parts here and there. I bought the lower box rear control arms from Ground Up. Most of the front suspension is of Moog parts and have front and rear Hotchkis springs with KYB shocks up front and Monroe shocks at rear. My car never sees the track, since it's not built as a racing car. However, if it helps, later on I will beef up the engine to a 383 in the future. I have never had that experience driving with any sway bar, front or rear, that I don't know how it feels. Some people say it's better and you can really feel the difference than without one. Some also say to never drive on the streets without one. I don't have one and I drive on the streets all the time. I mean, I do feel that lean feel on the car that people talk about. So, should I invest in a pair of sway bars after all? I'm all for any improvments in my driving handling. Bottom line, can anyone please point me in the right direction with specific choices in helping me choose the right combination of size for the front and rear sway bars and what brand out of many is the best for me? It will be highly appreciated. thanks -Eddie One thing I've been warned against is to be careful of not getting carried away with too big of a bar. With too large a diameter I'm told it's possible to lift an wheel in a hard turn. -- Bob Holtzman A man is a man who will fight with a sword, Or tackle Mount Everest in snow; But the bravest of all owns a '34 Ford, Who will try for six thousand in low! Roger Huntington
[Chevelle-list] ReChevelle-list] last year for non-concealed wipers
Yep. Ed Riggins HSP, Inc. On Mon Jan 7 19:06 , John Nasta [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: I used to know this, but what was the last year for non-concealed wipers on the Chevelle? Was it 1967? Thanks
