Re: [Chevelle-list] Crate Engines

[Chuck Speake]

I talked to my cousin today who lives not far from Hi-Tech I should have
talked to him before I bought the engine from them.  They have a very bad
reputation around there.  They hire a bunch of 18 year old kids with not
much experience because they don't have to pay them very much.  Its all high
production work by minimal experienced people.  Not technical or
professional engine builders.  That is what I was told.  I am sure GM
workers are better trained and experienced.

 

Chuck Speake

1970 Chevelle Malibu

Glen Ellyn, Illinois

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Rightler
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 4:28 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Crate Engines

 

One reason is you bought a rebuilt crate engine from someone other than
Chevrolet.  Jasper engines are known for failing.  I have never heard of a
ZZ4 350 crate engine failing.

 

Tom Rightler
MCC Newsletter Editor

- Original Message - 

From: Larry Hickman   

To: Chevelle   List 

Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 10:11 AM

Subject: [Chevelle-list] Crate Engines

 

Has anyone ever had a good experience with a crate engine ?  I bought a
small block Chevy, crate engine, through Jasper several years ago to put in
my boat. It seemed like an economical alternative to rebuilding the one I
had. Long story short, it failed about 30 days out of warranty. When we took
it apart to see why, it had been over-bored and sleeved. Who sleeves a small
block gas engine ?!!  Just wondering if there is a reliable mass-production
engine builder/rebuilder, performance or stock, out there ?

 

Larry

'71 Chevelle  

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Re: [Chevelle-list] Crate Engines

[D.R. Jones]

Make that 330hp. I'm old and don't like a lot of power, but I'm sure you young 
guys like more.
   
  D.R. Jones

"D.R. Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Larry,
   
  Where are you located? In my shop I've always used a place in Dallas, shop in 
San 
  Antonio also, to obtain motors from. Have had really good luck with them. 
Only one to go bad and they replaced it with no problem. Also had some labor 
money provided. It is a crap shoot for motors unless you got an in at a Chev 
dealer and by all means get a GM crate motor, I really like the 33hp 350's. 
Look at citymotorsupply.com and see what you think.
   
  D.R. Jones
  Burleson, TX

Larry Hickman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Has anyone ever had a good experience with a crate engine ?  I bought a 
small block Chevy, crate engine, through Jasper several years ago to put in my 
boat. It seemed like an economical alternative to rebuilding the one I had. 
Long story short, it failed about 30 days out of warranty. When we took it 
apart to see why, it had been over-bored and sleeved. Who sleeves a small block 
gas engine ?!!  Just wondering if there is a reliable mass-production engine 
builder/rebuilder, performance or stock, out there ?
   
  Larry
  '71 Chevelle  

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Re: [Chevelle-list] Crate Engines

[D.R. Jones]

Larry,
   
  Where are you located? In my shop I've always used a place in Dallas, shop in 
San 
  Antonio also, to obtain motors from. Have had really good luck with them. 
Only one to go bad and they replaced it with no problem. Also had some labor 
money provided. It is a crap shoot for motors unless you got an in at a Chev 
dealer and by all means get a GM crate motor, I really like the 33hp 350's. 
Look at citymotorsupply.com and see what you think.
   
  D.R. Jones
  Burleson, TX

Larry Hickman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Has anyone ever had a good experience with a crate engine ?  I bought a 
small block Chevy, crate engine, through Jasper several years ago to put in my 
boat. It seemed like an economical alternative to rebuilding the one I had. 
Long story short, it failed about 30 days out of warranty. When we took it 
apart to see why, it had been over-bored and sleeved. Who sleeves a small block 
gas engine ?!!  Just wondering if there is a reliable mass-production engine 
builder/rebuilder, performance or stock, out there ?
   
  Larry
  '71 Chevelle  

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Re: [Chevelle-list] Crate Engines

[Dale]

Don't you just love that everyone is using the term 'crate engine' for
anything rebuilt.  Kind of like jumping on the 'Muscle Car' bandwagon with
any car made from 64 to 72.  Some publications are going back as far a 1955
and applying the term.

Dale McIntosh 
  ChevelleCD.com 
  ChevelleStuff.com 

Re: [Chevelle-list] Crate Engines

[Tom Rightler]

One reason is you bought a rebuilt crate engine from someone other than 
Chevrolet.  Jasper engines are known for failing.  I have never heard of a ZZ4 
350 crate engine failing.

Tom Rightler
MCC Newsletter Editor
  - Original Message - 
  From: Larry Hickman 
  To: Chevelle List 
  Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 10:11 AM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] Crate Engines


  Has anyone ever had a good experience with a crate engine ?  I bought a small 
block Chevy, crate engine, through Jasper several years ago to put in my boat. 
It seemed like an economical alternative to rebuilding the one I had. Long 
story short, it failed about 30 days out of warranty. When we took it apart to 
see why, it had been over-bored and sleeved. Who sleeves a small block gas 
engine ?!!  Just wondering if there is a reliable mass-production engine 
builder/rebuilder, performance or stock, out there ?

  Larry
  '71 Chevelle  


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Re: [Chevelle-list] Crate Engines

[Larry Hickman]

Chuck
  It was your unfortunate experience that prompted my to tell my tale. Surely 
someone has had a good experience, otherwise, how would these guys stay in 
business ? Good luck with your new "built" engine. Thanks.
   
  Larry


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  Larry,
  DON’T go to Hi-Tech in Salt Lake City.  After 30 miles the rocker arm studs 
started pulling out around #4.  Engine sent back to them for inspection, and 
they said there was nothing wrong with it and if I did not want it back they 
were going to reassemble it and sell it to the next person that ordered that 
particular engine.  I told them to keep it.  Guess they screwed up and it 
didn’t last until the warranty ran out.
   
  Chuck Speake
  1970 Chevelle Malibu
  Glen Ellyn, Illinois
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   
   


   
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Re: [Chevelle-list] Crate Engines

[Rick Schaefer]

  I bought a 300HP 350 crate motor from GM almost 10  years ago & can't say
enough good about it.  Brand new with warrantee.   Never caused a bit of
trouble, no leaks & hasn't used any oil between changes.   Unless you want
something very specific, I'd say the GM motors are an excellent choice.
Just don't pay list price 

On 5/3/08, Chuck Speake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Larry,
>
> *DON'T* go to Hi-Tech in Salt Lake City.  After 30 miles the rocker arm
> studs started pulling out around #4.  Engine sent back to them for
> inspection, and they said there was nothing wrong with it and if I did not
> want it back they were going to reassemble it and sell it to the next person
> that ordered that particular engine.  I told them to keep it.  Guess they
> screwed up and it didn't last until the warranty ran out.
>
>
>
> *Chuck Speake*
>
> *1970 Chevelle Malibu*
>
> *Glen Ellyn, Illinois*
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Larry Hickman
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 03, 2008 9:11 AM
> *To:* Chevelle List
> *Subject:* [Chevelle-list] Crate Engines
>
>
>
> Has anyone ever had a good experience with a crate engine ?  I bought a
> small block Chevy, crate engine, through Jasper several years ago to put in
> my boat. It seemed like an economical alternative to rebuilding the one I
> had. Long story short, it failed about 30 days out of warranty. When we took
> it apart to see why, it had been over-bored and sleeved. Who sleeves a small
> block gas engine ?!!  Just wondering if there is a reliable mass-production
> engine builder/rebuilder, performance or stock, out there ?
>
>
>
> Larry
>
> '71 Chevelle
>
>
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[Chevelle-list] I-40 Eastbound Convoy

[Bill Lessenberry]

It's May 3rd, time to begin the planning for the convoy to 
Chevelle-a-bration in Goodlettsville, Tennessee. I'm sending this 
email to the participants in the '06 convoy and some other folks to 
get a head count and to tell ya'll about a new event happening 
Tuesday night in North Little Rock.
Last year the travelling folks stayed at the Holiday Inn Express 
Hotel & Suites at 4306 McCain Blvd in North Little Rock.  Here's the 
website- 
http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/h/d/ex/1/en/hotel/litmb?rpb=hotel&crUrl=/h/d/hi/1/en/hotelsearchresults
This is a nice place with easy access to I-40 without any morning 
rush hour traffic hassles.
The plan for now is to leave the motel a 9:00 AM on Wednesday June 
4th.  If we keep our speed to 60~65 mph that will put us in Memphis 
around noon.  We'll get some lunch (is the Cajun Catfish Restaurant 
still OK??) and meet up with the Memphis group and head on to Nashville.


Les Saville has graciously offered to feed us barbeque brisket, pork 
butt, and chicken with the fixings at his house on Tuesday night, 
June 3rd.  Les's home is only a couple of miles from the Holiday Inn, 
and he lives on a lightly travelled street, so there won't be a 
problem driving your cars to his place and parking there.  He will 
need to know how many folks are coming by Friday, May 16th so he can 
get the food.  Any of you semi-local guys (Morrillton, Russellville, 
Conway, etc.) need to come over & eat with us even if you're not 
staying in NLR that night.  Water and soft drinks will be available, 
you're on your own for beer and other alcohol.


Please email or call me with any suggestions, my cell # is 
501-425-8136 (leave a message, I don't have it on very often) shop # 
is 501-868-5870, 9:30~5:30 Monday through Friday.  I'll be posting 
this on Team Chevelle in the I-40 thread in the Cruise-In Forum also.


Looking forward to a great time!!

BillL
Ark68SS on Team Chevelle

Re: [Chevelle-list] Crate Engines

[Chuck Speake]

Larry,

DON'T go to Hi-Tech in Salt Lake City.  After 30 miles the rocker arm studs
started pulling out around #4.  Engine sent back to them for inspection, and
they said there was nothing wrong with it and if I did not want it back they
were going to reassemble it and sell it to the next person that ordered that
particular engine.  I told them to keep it.  Guess they screwed up and it
didn't last until the warranty ran out.

 

Chuck Speake

1970 Chevelle Malibu

Glen Ellyn, Illinois

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Hickman
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 9:11 AM
To: Chevelle List
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Crate Engines

 

Has anyone ever had a good experience with a crate engine ?  I bought a
small block Chevy, crate engine, through Jasper several years ago to put in
my boat. It seemed like an economical alternative to rebuilding the one I
had. Long story short, it failed about 30 days out of warranty. When we took
it apart to see why, it had been over-bored and sleeved. Who sleeves a small
block gas engine ?!!  Just wondering if there is a reliable mass-production
engine builder/rebuilder, performance or stock, out there ?

 

Larry

'71 Chevelle  

  

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[Chevelle-list] Crate Engines

[Larry Hickman]

Has anyone ever had a good experience with a crate engine ?  I bought a small 
block Chevy, crate engine, through Jasper several years ago to put in my boat. 
It seemed like an economical alternative to rebuilding the one I had. Long 
story short, it failed about 30 days out of warranty. When we took it apart to 
see why, it had been over-bored and sleeved. Who sleeves a small block gas 
engine ?!!  Just wondering if there is a reliable mass-production engine 
builder/rebuilder, performance or stock, out there ?
   
  Larry
  '71 Chevelle  

   
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Re: [Chevelle-list] Another Question HELP PLEASE!

[Mike Holleman]

Dave, The 700r4 does not use a kickdown cable. The cable is a TV cable, 
throttle valve. You need to get the right brackets and make sure it is adjusted 
correctly or your 700r4 will die a quick death. The 700 is not computor 
controlled. The one wire needed would be for the lockup converter if you are 
using one and the trans will have to have the internal solenoid installed to 
control this if used. One of the best ways to switch this is by changing your 
brake light switch to one for use with cruise control. It has two functions, 
one normally open, one normally closed. Get a little professional help on this 
conversion and you will be very happy with the OD trans.
Mike
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dave Benjamin 
  To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net 
  Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 9:21 PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] Another Question HELP PLEASE!


  Got my Beaumont out of storage and drove it last weekend. I got a new job 
that is a 25 min. drive back and forth and will be putting on lots of miles. I 
am putting a 700 R4 ( gas price ) in and was wondering if any one has wiring 
diagrams for it or any one has done this and What will I run into. I already 
made new drive shaft, have new throttle bracket for kick down cable. Also 
bought speedometer piece that will take a cable. Was also wondering what kind 
of gear I will have in first with 336 and 15" tires?

  Any Help very much appreciated.

  Thank you
  Dave
  Ingersoll,Ontario
  My Web Site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/


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Re: [Chevelle-list] Another Question HELP PLEASE!

[Rick Schaefer]

  It is relatively easy to connect the lockup.Some basic info is here:
http://www.chevelles.net/links/WorkShop/Manual_Auto_Tranny/ And if you
search the Tranny Forum at chevelle tech,  OnaBudget (Rob Mirabelle) posted
the most complete list of GM part numbers that you will need.  It was a few
years back, but I'd bet the info is still there.

   Its been almost 10 years since I converted mine.  As I recall you change
1 solenoid in the tranny pan, move a couple of wires,  and  connect 12V & a
ground to the electrical connector on the side of the tranny. Optionally
you can add a vacumn switch on the 12V input to unlock so it will unlock
when you get on it.

  You've probably heard it before, but TV cable adjustment is critical.  The
tranny will not last 50 miles if it is not adjusted correctly.

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Eddie Bumgarner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  Im glad were on this subject, im also thinking of putting a 700r4 in my
> 66 for gas milage. And i was talking to a buddy about this and he installed
> one in a 55 chevy ,said to bypass the computer is to pull out the computer
> connection put in a ball and a spring. and that was it. Lets compare notes
> any one else here of this. thanks Eddie
>
>
> *Eddie Bumgarner 66ss conv.*
>
>
>   - Original Message 
> From: Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
> Sent: Friday, May 2, 2008 9:56:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Another Question HELP PLEASE!
>
>   Sadly I'm not an automatic guru much less a 700R4.  That's why I paid
> them to do the changeover.  I'm sure a better educated 700R4 guru will chime
> in.
>
> Dale McIntosh
> ChevelleCD.com 
> ChevelleStuff.com 
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>
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Dave Benjamin
> *Sent:* Friday, May 02, 2008 8:45 PM
> *To:* The Chevelle Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] Another Question HELP PLEASE!
>
>
>
> Was wondering for the lock up toque converter??
>
>   - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> *To:* 'The Chevelle Mailing List' 
>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 02, 2008 9:42 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] Another Question HELP PLEASE!
>
>
>
> Just specifying 15" tires isn't enough; you need the size and aspect
> ratio.  Try the calculator at
> http://www.chevellestuff.com/tools/rpm_calculator.htm to give you an RPM
> range for a given tire size, rear end gear, and transmission.
>
>
>
> FWIW, when I went from a 4-speed to 700R4 I don't remember anything having
> to do with wiring, only the correct cable for the kickdown.  But then, I had
> mine done at Phoenix Transmission in Texas ; drove in w/4-speed, drove out
> with 700R4.
>
> Dale McIntosh
> ChevelleCD.com 
> ChevelleStuff.com 
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> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Dave Benjamin
> *Sent:* Friday, May 02, 2008 8:22 PM
> *To:* chevelle-list@chevelles.net
> *Subject:* [Chevelle-list] Another Question HELP PLEASE!
>
>
>
> *Got my Beaumont out of storage and drove it last weekend. I got a new job
> that is a 25 min. drive back and forth and will be putting on lots of miles.
> I am putting a 700 R4 ( gas price ) in and was wondering if any one has
> wiring diagrams for it or any one has done this and What will I run into. I
> already made new drive shaft, have new throttle bracket for kick down cable.
> Also bought speedometer piece that will take a cable. Was also wondering
> what kind of gear I will have in first with 336 and 15" tires?*
>
>
>
> *Any Help very much appreciated.*
>
>
>
> *Thank you*
>
> *Dave**
> Ingersoll, Ontario*
> *My Web Site: 
> **http://members.tripod.com/benj30/*
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