RE: [Chevelle-List] Muncie
Hi Guys, from the information that I have A is for an M20, B is for an M21 and C is for the "crusher" M22. Regards Carl -Original Message- From: tigergutt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:56 AM To: chevelle-list Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Muncie There is a letter stamped on the case after some numbers (stamped, not cast) that defines if it is m-20 m-21 or m-22, its either A B or C, I dont remember which letter is what trans but I think I can find out if you want. André > This site says it is an M21 from 63-65 with a 7/8" shaft. The later ones have 1" shafts, so this one may not be as strong? http://www.camaros.org/trans.shtml Other sites like this one: http://peachstatechevelles.com/muncieid.html say it is a 64-65 M20 or M21 unit. I'd go with this as the authority: http://www.5speeds.com/muncie2.htm Casting: 3851325 Years: 1964 - 1965 Ratios: M20 2.56 1st , M21 2.20 1stDecoding the P O 614 is (I think): Muncie (P) June (06) 14th (14) Brad Waller On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 10:14 AM, Grant Didmon wrote: Gentlemen I still can not wipe the smile off my face after 8 hours since I found and purchased a Muncie 4 speed in a small scrap yard 150 miles from home,for $190.It is complete with linkage and reverse lock out shifter that still works.The bad news is that I do not know what year it is,if it is a M20 or M21,or if it came on a Chevelle,Chevy II or Corvette.It has P O 614,and 3851325 stamped on it.Is it! a 64 or 65 Maybe? Grant > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Matching Numbers?
Hi Scott and welcome to the Chevelle owners world. There is a great book out called "Chevy by the Numbers" and editions are sold that cover certain years. Mine covers 69 through 74. It can be found at any major book store for about $ 30 bucks but it has been invaluable. I apologize that I cannot remember the authors name right now and I am work so don't have access to it. I will post the name tomorrow if you haven't got it from another member. Regards Carl 69 SS -Original Message-From: Scott Kintz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:54 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] Matching Numbers? I am fairly new to the classic car world. I just bought my first Chevelle last month and enjoy it immensely! However, people often talk about how a car’s numbers should all match to make it more valuable. I do know that each car has a VIN and engine numbers and transmission numbers. Is there some book to access that will tell me if these numbers match? And where would I find such a book? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Scott
[Chevelle-List] Florida Vacation
Hi Guys. I am just in the midst of making plans to get away from this "cold" Canadian winter. I will be in Panama City Beach, Florida the last 2 weeks of March and wondered if there were any Chevelle clubs or car shows, or cruise nights etc. in that area at that time. Any info. would be greatly appreciated. On another front, I have been looking for an original Quadrajet carb for my 69 SS which is a 396-325 hp with a T400. The carb # 7029200. Thanks Carl 69 SS Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Automotive Decals
Hi Folks A while back one of the members asked where he could get a complete set of decals for a Chevelle he was restoring. I recently came across a vendor at a flea market that had a tremendous selection of decals of every description for every year. He also had shop and owners manuals. Thought that list might be interested in the details: Jim Osborn Reproductions Inc. 101 Ridgecrest Drive Lawrenceville, GA 30045 www.osborn-reproduction.com (770) 962-7556 Regards: Carl 69 SS Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Transmission Conversion
Yes I am Craig, I belong to the Sarnia Street Machines. Did you make it over to our show this summer? We should try and meet up in the future. What do you drive? I will use your direct e-mail after this. Regards Carl Carl Farnand > -Original Message- > From: Craig A. Ellis [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 10:27 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Transmission Conversion > > Carl, are you in Sarnia??? I'm in Port Huron. > > Craig > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Carl Farnand > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 10:10 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Transmission Conversion > > > Thanks for the info Doug. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Doug [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 12:02 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:Re: [Chevelle-List] Transmission Conversion > > > > turned my 69 elcy back to orig . previous owner had a 4 speed in it and > i > > put a t 400 into it ,so answer to first question , yes get a diff drive > > line. > > get a new steering column , unless you want the column lever in the way > . > > we had to change out the pedals and such for the change be prepared for > > that. > > previous owner went through floor board for the 4 speed change ,( > > flinstone > > feet work well in this matter) > > - Original Message - > > From: "Carl Farnand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 2:19 PM > > Subject: [Chevelle-List] Transmission Conversion > > > > > > > Hi Folks. > > > > > > I have a 69 SS 396 that is currently an automatic with a T400. I am > > > planning to convert it to a 4-speed and am in the fact finding and > parts > > > finding process. I have a couple of key questions. > > > * First, will the drive shaft that is in the car be the right length > > > for the 4 speed (Muncie). > > > * Secondly, do I have to change the steering column because of the > > > reverse lock out requirements. > > > * Finally, as I have never done this before, is there such a thing as > > > a conversion guide listing all the parts requirements (example: clutch > > > linkage assembly) and the "how to"? > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. > > > > > > Carl Farnand > > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > - > > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Transmission Conversion
Thanks for the info Doug. Carl Farnand Quality Advisor Total Service Management Information Technology Front St. NOVA Chemicals (Canada)Ltd. Tel. (519) 332-1212 ext. 6375 Fax (519) 464-5791 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Doug [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 12:02 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Transmission Conversion > > turned my 69 elcy back to orig . previous owner had a 4 speed in it and i > put a t 400 into it ,so answer to first question , yes get a diff drive > line. > get a new steering column , unless you want the column lever in the way . > we had to change out the pedals and such for the change be prepared for > that. > previous owner went through floor board for the 4 speed change ,( > flinstone > feet work well in this matter) > ----- Original Message - > From: "Carl Farnand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 2:19 PM > Subject: [Chevelle-List] Transmission Conversion > > > > Hi Folks. > > > > I have a 69 SS 396 that is currently an automatic with a T400. I am > > planning to convert it to a 4-speed and am in the fact finding and parts > > finding process. I have a couple of key questions. > > * First, will the drive shaft that is in the car be the right length > > for the 4 speed (Muncie). > > * Secondly, do I have to change the steering column because of the > > reverse lock out requirements. > > * Finally, as I have never done this before, is there such a thing as > > a conversion guide listing all the parts requirements (example: clutch > > linkage assembly) and the "how to"? > > > > Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. > > > > Carl Farnand > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Transmission Conversion
Hi Folks. I have a 69 SS 396 that is currently an automatic with a T400. I am planning to convert it to a 4-speed and am in the fact finding and parts finding process. I have a couple of key questions. * First, will the drive shaft that is in the car be the right length for the 4 speed (Muncie). * Secondly, do I have to change the steering column because of the reverse lock out requirements. * Finally, as I have never done this before, is there such a thing as a conversion guide listing all the parts requirements (example: clutch linkage assembly) and the "how to"? Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Carl Farnand Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Muncie result
Hi JD. I am in the market for an M20 or M21. Any idea of the condition of this one and what the price might be? Thanks Carl Carl Farnand Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: JDHall [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:37 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Muncie result > > What I figured. I just know were its sitting if anyone needs it. > > Thanks > JD > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:59 PM > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Muncie result > > > > Unfortunately the '63-65 Muncies are not as durable or > > suited for hi-po use as the '66-74 models, so I'm > > guessing someone interested in yours would be so for > > restoration purposes. Sorry to be the bearer of bad > > news... 8^( > > > > Brad O. > > > > > The number on the case is 3851325 > > > > > > This looks to be > > > M20 63-65 3851325 2.56 1.91 1.48 1.00 > > > by my search > > > > > > What would one of these be worth? Is there anyone in the market for > one? > > > > > > JDHall > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] SS Options
Thanks to everyone for your responses to my SS Options question and in particular to Dale for the details about the RPO Z25 option. Have a great day! Carl > -Original Message- > From: 396guy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 6:50 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] SS Options > > Welcome to the list. > > In 1969, the SS package became an option as opposed to a separate model as > it was from 66-68 with the 396 engine. There is only ONE SS for 1969 - > there is no standard SS and a different SS Option Package. Other options > available only with the SS were such things as engine choices and two > SS-only colors; Monaco Orange (code 72) and Daytona Yellow (code 76) and > the > RPO F41 suspension. Bucket seats, console, gauges, etc could all be had > with a Malibu. 1969 was also the only year the SS option package could be > ordered on the 300 Deluxe coupe models as well as the Malibu and El Camino > and is identified by the option code Z25 on the built sheet. > > The RPO Z25 option included: > Wheel opening moldings > Bright Roof Drip Gutter Molding (std on Malibu & Custom El Camino) > Black Steering Wheel and Column (Malibu & Custom El Camino only) > Steering Wheel Shroud with Black Center Area and Horn Blowing Tab (300 > Deluxe only) > "SS" Steering Wheel Center Emblem > "SS 396" Nameplate in Black-Accented Instrument Panel Right Side Molding > "SS 396" Door Sidewall Emblem (Malibu & Custom El Camino only) > Black Paint Filled Rear End Panel or Tailgate Moldings (std on Malibu & > Custom El Camino) > Black Paint Filled Rear End Panel Moldings > Malibu Series Rear Quarter End Cap, Tail Lamp & Tail Lamp Bezel (300 > Deluxe > only) > Grille, Front Fender, and Rear End Panel or Tailgate "SS 396" Nameplate > Black Painted Radiator Grille > Special Hood with Ornamental Cowl Grilles > Bright Bezeled Parking Lamp Lens > F70-14 Wide Oval, Blackwall, White-Lettered Tires (exc El Camino) > G70-14 Wide Oval, Blackwall, White-Lettered Tires (El Camino) > 14x7 Sport Wheels with Special Hub Cap and Trim Ring > Oval Tail Pipes (exc El Camino) > > This is what was ~included~ with the SS option. Other options were also > available such as bucket seats on the Malibu/El Camino, gauges, etc. > Since > the VIN and/or cowl tag does not indicate an SS (except for the two above > mentioned SS-only paint codes), without the build sheet or > Protect-O-Plate, > there's no way to verify it. I'd ask your appraiser if he knows what is > suppose to be included in the "std SS" as opposed to the "SS Option > Package" > for 1969. I'd be curious to see what his answer is on that one. > > BTW, all data came straight from a GM Restoration kit for the 1969 model > year. > > Dale > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Carl Farnand > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:05 AM > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: [Chevelle-List] SS Options > > > > > > Hi Folks. I have just recently joined the chevelle-list as I have just > > purchased a documented 69 SS 396-325hp with bench seat auto, > > factory AC etc. > > I am currently having it appraised and understand from the appraiser > that > > there is the standard SS and another category for the "SS Option > Package" > > that increases the value of the car substantially. I always believed > that > > there was one SS option for Chevelles and then variations of that option > > such as HP ratings, buckets, console, tach etc were added. Can anyone > set > > me straight regarding a specific "SS option package" that was put on a > > standard SS car and if so, what did that option package consist > > of. Thanks > > in advance for your help with this and incidentally, I think this is an > > excellent site and I am really enjoying it. > > > > Regards Carl > > > > > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] SS Options
Thanks Rob, I will have them by next week and post them here. It does look pretty sweet!. Carl Farnand Quality Advisor Total Service Management Information Technology Front St. NOVA Chemicals (Canada)Ltd. Tel. (519) 332-1212 ext. 6375 Fax (519) 464-5791 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Rob [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:06 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] SS Options > > welcome aboard Carl, > have any pictures of that sweet ride > > > > Rob Means > "be good,if not,be good at it > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - Original Message - > From: "Doug Fugere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:09 AM > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] SS Options > > > > welcome and congrats on the chevelle, will find lots of good info from a > > good group of chevy fans. > > - Original Message - > > From: "Carl Farnand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:04 AM > > Subject: [Chevelle-List] SS Options > > > > > > > Hi Folks. I have just recently joined the chevelle-list as I have > just > > > purchased a documented 69 SS 396-325hp with bench seat auto, factory > AC > > etc. > > > I am currently having it appraised and understand from the appraiser > that > > > there is the standard SS and another category for the "SS Option > Package" > > > that increases the value of the car substantially. I always believed > that > > > there was one SS option for Chevelles and then variations of that > option > > > such as HP ratings, buckets, console, tach etc were added. Can anyone > set > > > me straight regarding a specific "SS option package" that was put on a > > > standard SS car and if so, what did that option package consist of. > > Thanks > > > in advance for your help with this and incidentally, I think this is > an > > > excellent site and I am really enjoying it. > > > > > > Regards Carl > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] SS Options
Thanks Doug, looking forward to conversing with all of you. Carl > -Original Message- > From: Doug Fugere [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] SS Options > > welcome and congrats on the chevelle, will find lots of good info from a > good group of chevy fans. > - Original Message - > From: "Carl Farnand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:04 AM > Subject: [Chevelle-List] SS Options > > > > Hi Folks. I have just recently joined the chevelle-list as I have just > > purchased a documented 69 SS 396-325hp with bench seat auto, factory AC > etc. > > I am currently having it appraised and understand from the appraiser > that > > there is the standard SS and another category for the "SS Option > Package" > > that increases the value of the car substantially. I always believed > that > > there was one SS option for Chevelles and then variations of that option > > such as HP ratings, buckets, console, tach etc were added. Can anyone > set > > me straight regarding a specific "SS option package" that was put on a > > standard SS car and if so, what did that option package consist of. > Thanks > > in advance for your help with this and incidentally, I think this is an > > excellent site and I am really enjoying it. > > > > Regards Carl > > > > > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] SS Options
Hi Folks. I have just recently joined the chevelle-list as I have just purchased a documented 69 SS 396-325hp with bench seat auto, factory AC etc. I am currently having it appraised and understand from the appraiser that there is the standard SS and another category for the "SS Option Package" that increases the value of the car substantially. I always believed that there was one SS option for Chevelles and then variations of that option such as HP ratings, buckets, console, tach etc were added. Can anyone set me straight regarding a specific "SS option package" that was put on a standard SS car and if so, what did that option package consist of. Thanks in advance for your help with this and incidentally, I think this is an excellent site and I am really enjoying it. Regards Carl - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Chevelle Parts Suppliers List?
Hi Bob. My guess is that you are divorced and the licence stands for "the Worst" part of the marriage vows, You know ' for better or for worse". If it was like my situation, you got the 69 Chevelle and she probably got the house! Regards Carl Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: AOK Lansing [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:56 PM > To: Chevelle List > Subject: [Chevelle-List] Chevelle Parts Suppliers List? > > It seems that I become aware of new Chevelle parts suppliers every month > or > so. It is a real task trying to keep up-to-date on these suppliers. It > would > be nice if the users of this list would provide a list of all know > suppliers, experiences, pros and cons of each and so on. If any of you are > interested, I would be willing to compile, sort and grade each supplier > based on the lists input. I would then post this back to the list > periodically. If you are interested in participating, please send your > list > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and make the subject ChevelleSupplier. If this has > already been done, please let me know where I can get it. > > Thanks, > Bob Hiller > > 4WSRE69 > This is my current projects license plate, see if you can figure out what > it > stands for. > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
