RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?)
Thanks, interesting, keep us posted. André > Well, after making about 8 passes down the drag strip I concluded that > removing the sway bar didn't make enough of a difference in my car, at > the ETs and speeds I run, to make it worthwhile leaving it off. > > I didn't pick up anything in my 60' times and I don't like the fact that > the front end feels looser even in a straight line. > > If I get the car into the 10s on muscle, then it may be worthwhile. > > I put it back on. > > Bill Vander Werf > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tigergutt > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 3:55 AM > To: chevelle-list > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) > > Cool, let us know how it goes, > > > André > > > Funny this thread should come up. I've been talking to some friends at > > the track who say my 60' times would be better and translate into > > quicker ETs if I would remove my front sway bar. > > > > My 60' times have been between 1.64 and 1.66 consistently and my ETs, > > depending on the humidity, have been between 11.7s and 11.8s. > > > > I took the front sway bar off tonight. Technically, I should get > better > > weight transfer because the front end will now rise faster at launch. > I > > expect the front of the car will roll to the right more also. I'll let > > you know my verdict and whether or not I consider it an improvement. > > > > Remember, this is a drag race only modification where the car is > > expected to perform in a straight line. Cornering isn't an issue here. > I > > wouldn't even consider removing the sway bar if the car was driven on > > the street regularly. > > > > Bill Vander Werf > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?)
Thanks for the update Bill. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Vander Werf Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 8:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) Well, after making about 8 passes down the drag strip I concluded that removing the sway bar didn't make enough of a difference in my car, at the ETs and speeds I run, to make it worthwhile leaving it off. I didn't pick up anything in my 60' times and I don't like the fact that the front end feels looser even in a straight line. If I get the car into the 10s on muscle, then it may be worthwhile. I put it back on. Bill Vander Werf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tigergutt Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 3:55 AM To: chevelle-list Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) Cool, let us know how it goes, André > Funny this thread should come up. I've been talking to some friends at > the track who say my 60' times would be better and translate into > quicker ETs if I would remove my front sway bar. > > My 60' times have been between 1.64 and 1.66 consistently and my ETs, > depending on the humidity, have been between 11.7s and 11.8s. > > I took the front sway bar off tonight. Technically, I should get better > weight transfer because the front end will now rise faster at launch. I > expect the front of the car will roll to the right more also. I'll let > you know my verdict and whether or not I consider it an improvement. > > Remember, this is a drag race only modification where the car is > expected to perform in a straight line. Cornering isn't an issue here. I > wouldn't even consider removing the sway bar if the car was driven on > the street regularly. > > Bill Vander Werf - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?)
Well, after making about 8 passes down the drag strip I concluded that removing the sway bar didn't make enough of a difference in my car, at the ETs and speeds I run, to make it worthwhile leaving it off. I didn't pick up anything in my 60' times and I don't like the fact that the front end feels looser even in a straight line. If I get the car into the 10s on muscle, then it may be worthwhile. I put it back on. Bill Vander Werf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tigergutt Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 3:55 AM To: chevelle-list Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) Cool, let us know how it goes, André > Funny this thread should come up. I've been talking to some friends at > the track who say my 60' times would be better and translate into > quicker ETs if I would remove my front sway bar. > > My 60' times have been between 1.64 and 1.66 consistently and my ETs, > depending on the humidity, have been between 11.7s and 11.8s. > > I took the front sway bar off tonight. Technically, I should get better > weight transfer because the front end will now rise faster at launch. I > expect the front of the car will roll to the right more also. I'll let > you know my verdict and whether or not I consider it an improvement. > > Remember, this is a drag race only modification where the car is > expected to perform in a straight line. Cornering isn't an issue here. I > wouldn't even consider removing the sway bar if the car was driven on > the street regularly. > > Bill Vander Werf - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?)
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003, Dave Studly wrote: > Bob, also, removing the sway bar, as opposed to disconnecting it, takes a > nice piece of weight off the front end. Dave, True. Also, shouldn't the rear anti sway bar should help with the wheel hop problem? -- Bob Holtzman Return with us now to those thrilling days of yesteryear when out of the past comes the thundering roar of an Ardun-Merc and the hearty cry of "Aw shit..there goes another clutch" - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?)
Bob, also, removing the sway bar, as opposed to disconnecting it, takes a nice piece of weight off the front end. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Holtzman Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 4:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Dave Studly wrote: > Bob, in theory, you're basically right. Disconnecting the sway bar, I > believe, allows a little more front suspension extension, thereby helping > weight transfer. But, you need to be launching pretty hard (like, say, an > 11 second car, or something that has a 60-foot time of 1.6 or lower) to get > to the point where that'll come into play. Also, most cars do twist (torque > roll as you say) a little on launch. The left front comes up higher than > the right front. Dave, Thanks for clearing it up. It looks like the only time it affects anything is when one wheel tries to lift. Otherwise, since the bar should be free to rotate in the bushings, there would be no effect. -- Bob Holtzman Return with us now to those thrilling days of yesteryear when out of the past comes the thundering roar of an Ardun-Merc and the hearty cry of "Aw shit..there goes another clutch" - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?)
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Dave Studly wrote: > Bob, in theory, you're basically right. Disconnecting the sway bar, I > believe, allows a little more front suspension extension, thereby helping > weight transfer. But, you need to be launching pretty hard (like, say, an > 11 second car, or something that has a 60-foot time of 1.6 or lower) to get > to the point where that'll come into play. Also, most cars do twist (torque > roll as you say) a little on launch. The left front comes up higher than > the right front. Dave, Thanks for clearing it up. It looks like the only time it affects anything is when one wheel tries to lift. Otherwise, since the bar should be free to rotate in the bushings, there would be no effect. -- Bob Holtzman Return with us now to those thrilling days of yesteryear when out of the past comes the thundering roar of an Ardun-Merc and the hearty cry of "Aw shit..there goes another clutch" - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?)
Cool, let us know how it goes, André > Funny this thread should come up. I've been talking to some friends at > the track who say my 60' times would be better and translate into > quicker ETs if I would remove my front sway bar. > > My 60' times have been between 1.64 and 1.66 consistently and my ETs, > depending on the humidity, have been between 11.7s and 11.8s. > > I took the front sway bar off tonight. Technically, I should get better > weight transfer because the front end will now rise faster at launch. I > expect the front of the car will roll to the right more also. I'll let > you know my verdict and whether or not I consider it an improvement. > > Remember, this is a drag race only modification where the car is > expected to perform in a straight line. Cornering isn't an issue here. I > wouldn't even consider removing the sway bar if the car was driven on > the street regularly. > > Bill Vander Werf > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Studly > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 10:14 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) > > Bob, in theory, you're basically right. Disconnecting the sway bar, I > believe, allows a little more front suspension extension, thereby > helping > weight transfer. But, you need to be launching pretty hard (like, say, > an > 11 second car, or something that has a 60-foot time of 1.6 or lower) to > get > to the point where that'll come into play. Also, most cars do twist > (torque > roll as you say) a little on launch. The left front comes up higher > than > the right front. > > -Dave > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Holtzman > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:39 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (remove > > However, I think your car needs to be in the 11s before a sway bar > could > > really hurt your straight line performance (more specifically, > hindering > > weight transfer). > > How about educating me? It seems that if the car is set up correctly the > front end will come straight up (assuming no torque roll) in which case > the antisway bar shouldn't affect weight transfer. According to what I > see > in the geometry, the only time the bar has any effect is when one wheel > tries to come up first. > > If I'm wrong please correct me. > > Thanks. > > -- > Bob Holtzman > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?)
From what I've been told you don't even have to remove it, just undo it at the ends. Larry (Z)
RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?)
Funny this thread should come up. I've been talking to some friends at the track who say my 60' times would be better and translate into quicker ETs if I would remove my front sway bar. My 60' times have been between 1.64 and 1.66 consistently and my ETs, depending on the humidity, have been between 11.7s and 11.8s. I took the front sway bar off tonight. Technically, I should get better weight transfer because the front end will now rise faster at launch. I expect the front of the car will roll to the right more also. I'll let you know my verdict and whether or not I consider it an improvement. Remember, this is a drag race only modification where the car is expected to perform in a straight line. Cornering isn't an issue here. I wouldn't even consider removing the sway bar if the car was driven on the street regularly. Bill Vander Werf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Studly Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 10:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) Bob, in theory, you're basically right. Disconnecting the sway bar, I believe, allows a little more front suspension extension, thereby helping weight transfer. But, you need to be launching pretty hard (like, say, an 11 second car, or something that has a 60-foot time of 1.6 or lower) to get to the point where that'll come into play. Also, most cars do twist (torque roll as you say) a little on launch. The left front comes up higher than the right front. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Holtzman Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Dave Studly wrote: > However, I think your car needs to be in the 11s before a sway bar could > really hurt your straight line performance (more specifically, hindering > weight transfer). How about educating me? It seems that if the car is set up correctly the front end will come straight up (assuming no torque roll) in which case the antisway bar shouldn't affect weight transfer. According to what I see in the geometry, the only time the bar has any effect is when one wheel tries to come up first. If I'm wrong please correct me. Thanks. -- Bob Holtzman - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?)
Bob, in theory, you're basically right. Disconnecting the sway bar, I believe, allows a little more front suspension extension, thereby helping weight transfer. But, you need to be launching pretty hard (like, say, an 11 second car, or something that has a 60-foot time of 1.6 or lower) to get to the point where that'll come into play. Also, most cars do twist (torque roll as you say) a little on launch. The left front comes up higher than the right front. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Holtzman Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Dave Studly wrote: > However, I think your car needs to be in the 11s before a sway bar could > really hurt your straight line performance (more specifically, hindering > weight transfer). How about educating me? It seems that if the car is set up correctly the front end will come straight up (assuming no torque roll) in which case the antisway bar shouldn't affect weight transfer. According to what I see in the geometry, the only time the bar has any effect is when one wheel tries to come up first. If I'm wrong please correct me. Thanks. -- Bob Holtzman "A man is a man who will fight with a sword, Or tackle Mount Everest in snow; But the bravest of all owns a '34 Ford, Who will try for six thousand in low!" Roger Huntington - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?)
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Dave Studly wrote: > However, I think your car needs to be in the 11s before a sway bar could > really hurt your straight line performance (more specifically, hindering > weight transfer). How about educating me? It seems that if the car is set up correctly the front end will come straight up (assuming no torque roll) in which case the antisway bar shouldn't affect weight transfer. According to what I see in the geometry, the only time the bar has any effect is when one wheel tries to come up first. If I'm wrong please correct me. Thanks. -- Bob Holtzman "A man is a man who will fight with a sword, Or tackle Mount Everest in snow; But the bravest of all owns a '34 Ford, Who will try for six thousand in low!" Roger Huntington - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?)
Alaska terminology - Turnin' a Brodie I learned this when I told my buddy that I was out cuttin' cookies, and he looked at me like I was mentally challenged. Sarge -Original Message- From: Krister Meister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) In the Upper Midwest we have the "doughnut", "cookie" and "looped it", but always be aware of the light poles! Krister (while living at home - looped my Dad's BWM, crossed two lanes of traffic, went off the road - missed a light pole by 2 feet - couldn't' breath until I closed the garage door and found no damage) In some very extreme cases, we call it a 'donut' here. Quoting Dave Studly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > As for the sideways motion, Lahar, I think that's called a > powerslide.. :) > (or bad bushings) > > -Dave > > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) -- rear bar
The 1" rear bar on my 68 Elky came from Hellwig and cost around $110,,for comparison sakes. Clint Hooper LT5 Registry Director http://www.LT5Registry.net/ ACES #1650 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?)
THe bar on the F body is 36 MM which is a little bigger than the 1 1/4 bar found on the Hurst/Olds of the 80's. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) -- rear bar
except for some after market bars I've never seen any that will fit except for the GM one Larry (Z)
RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) -- rear bar
Yeah. You are probably right, being the rear end widths being different on other cars. But now you got me thinking. I think I recall someone on this list had temporarily put a rear end from either a mid to late 80's monte or cutlass or something in a chevelle. Does anyone remember anything? Or is it just my beer-zheimers kicking in. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Studly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) -- rear bar Yes, I was speaking about the front bar. I do not know of any other rear bars that will fit our cars. There might be some, I just don't know. My hunch is that there aren't any others that will fit. I don't recall it ever being mentioned. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Zack Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 12:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) You are speaking about the front sway bar aren't you? Do you know what other rear bars fit our cars? Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Studly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) I have the big bar on my '70. I believe it might be 1 1/4" on the F-body cars, and 1 1/8" on A-body cars if it came that way from the factory. Don't quote me on that. I bought a 2nd-Gen F-body bar off eBay. The improvement in handling (and more specifically, less body roll) is drastic. I love it. However, I think your car needs to be in the 11s before a sway bar could really hurt your straight line performance (more specifically, hindering weight transfer). Unless you trailer your car to the track, I wouldn't recommend disconnecting the sway bar. As for the sideways motion, Lahar, I think that's called a powerslide.. :) (or bad bushings) -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Pell Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) BTW: the thick anti-sway bar from a 2nd gen f-body will bolt right up. Find one from a '78 T/A or so. I can't remember exactly what the diameter is, but it's like 1 1/8" or so. It'll drastically improve your front end handling/cornering if that's what you want. However, it will hurt your straight line performance, if that's what you want. Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Do you think the absence of the optional rear swaybar explains the > sideward motion I feel from the rear end? Especially when I > accelerate & > make a sharp > turn at the same time! > > Best regards > > > - Original Message ----- > Wrom: PEGAUTFJMVRESKPNKMBI > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) > > > > Pelle > > > > Your car may not have one.it's an option. If you have one, you > can't > miss > > it. In the front it will be a bar that connects to the botton of > one a-arm > > and goes to the other a-arm. In the rear it will be connected to > each > lower > > control arm and crosses just under the rear end cover. > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Bill C > > 70 LS6 > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) -- rear bar
Yes, I was speaking about the front bar. I do not know of any other rear bars that will fit our cars. There might be some, I just don't know. My hunch is that there aren't any others that will fit. I don't recall it ever being mentioned. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Zack Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 12:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) You are speaking about the front sway bar aren't you? Do you know what other rear bars fit our cars? Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Studly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) I have the big bar on my '70. I believe it might be 1 1/4" on the F-body cars, and 1 1/8" on A-body cars if it came that way from the factory. Don't quote me on that. I bought a 2nd-Gen F-body bar off eBay. The improvement in handling (and more specifically, less body roll) is drastic. I love it. However, I think your car needs to be in the 11s before a sway bar could really hurt your straight line performance (more specifically, hindering weight transfer). Unless you trailer your car to the track, I wouldn't recommend disconnecting the sway bar. As for the sideways motion, Lahar, I think that's called a powerslide.. :) (or bad bushings) -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Pell Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) BTW: the thick anti-sway bar from a 2nd gen f-body will bolt right up. Find one from a '78 T/A or so. I can't remember exactly what the diameter is, but it's like 1 1/8" or so. It'll drastically improve your front end handling/cornering if that's what you want. However, it will hurt your straight line performance, if that's what you want. Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Do you think the absence of the optional rear swaybar explains the > sideward motion I feel from the rear end? Especially when I > accelerate & > make a sharp > turn at the same time! > > Best regards > > > - Original Message ----- > Wrom: PEGAUTFJMVRESKPNKMBI > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) > > > > Pelle > > > > Your car may not have one.it's an option. If you have one, you > can't > miss > > it. In the front it will be a bar that connects to the botton of > one a-arm > > and goes to the other a-arm. In the rear it will be connected to > each > lower > > control arm and crosses just under the rear end cover. > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Bill C > > 70 LS6 > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?)
You are speaking about the front sway bar aren't you? Do you know what other rear bars fit our cars? Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Studly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) I have the big bar on my '70. I believe it might be 1 1/4" on the F-body cars, and 1 1/8" on A-body cars if it came that way from the factory. Don't quote me on that. I bought a 2nd-Gen F-body bar off eBay. The improvement in handling (and more specifically, less body roll) is drastic. I love it. However, I think your car needs to be in the 11s before a sway bar could really hurt your straight line performance (more specifically, hindering weight transfer). Unless you trailer your car to the track, I wouldn't recommend disconnecting the sway bar. As for the sideways motion, Lahar, I think that's called a powerslide.. :) (or bad bushings) -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Pell Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) BTW: the thick anti-sway bar from a 2nd gen f-body will bolt right up. Find one from a '78 T/A or so. I can't remember exactly what the diameter is, but it's like 1 1/8" or so. It'll drastically improve your front end handling/cornering if that's what you want. However, it will hurt your straight line performance, if that's what you want. Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Do you think the absence of the optional rear swaybar explains the > sideward motion I feel from the rear end? Especially when I > accelerate & > make a sharp > turn at the same time! > > Best regards > > > - Original Message - > Wrom: PEGAUTFJMVRESKPNKMBI > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) > > > > Pelle > > > > Your car may not have one.it's an option. If you have one, you > can't > miss > > it. In the front it will be a bar that connects to the botton of > one a-arm > > and goes to the other a-arm. In the rear it will be connected to > each > lower > > control arm and crosses just under the rear end cover. > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Bill C > > 70 LS6 > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) -- GM part #?
Dave: actually I do and will get it in about 30 min. its in the garage. With a discount you should pay about 70 bucks for one. Larry (Z)
RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) -- GM part #?
Larry, do you know the part number for it? -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) Pelle: The f 41 suspension was an option. If your car is an SS 19,293 cars were made and 16,431 came with the f 41 suspension which cost a whole whopping $30.55 extra. The rear anti-sway bar is still available from GM. Larry (Z)
RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?)
In the Upper Midwest we have the "doughnut", "cookie" and "looped it", but always be aware of the light poles! Krister (while living at home - looped my Dad's BWM, crossed two lanes of traffic, went off the road - missed a light pole by 2 feet - couldn't' breath until I closed the garage door and found no damage) In some very extreme cases, we call it a 'donut' here. Quoting Dave Studly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > As for the sideways motion, Lahar, I think that's called a > powerslide.. :) > (or bad bushings) > > -Dave > > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?)
Pelle: The f 41 suspension was an option. If your car is an SS 19,293 cars were made and 16,431 came with the f 41 suspension which cost a whole whopping $30.55 extra. The rear anti-sway bar is still available from GM. Larry (Z)
RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?)
In some very extreme cases, we call it a 'donut' here. Quoting Dave Studly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > As for the sideways motion, Lahar, I think that's called a > powerslide.. :) > (or bad bushings) > > -Dave > > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?)
I have the big bar on my '70. I believe it might be 1 1/4" on the F-body cars, and 1 1/8" on A-body cars if it came that way from the factory. Don't quote me on that. I bought a 2nd-Gen F-body bar off eBay. The improvement in handling (and more specifically, less body roll) is drastic. I love it. However, I think your car needs to be in the 11s before a sway bar could really hurt your straight line performance (more specifically, hindering weight transfer). Unless you trailer your car to the track, I wouldn't recommend disconnecting the sway bar. As for the sideways motion, Lahar, I think that's called a powerslide.. :) (or bad bushings) -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Pell Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) BTW: the thick anti-sway bar from a 2nd gen f-body will bolt right up. Find one from a '78 T/A or so. I can't remember exactly what the diameter is, but it's like 1 1/8" or so. It'll drastically improve your front end handling/cornering if that's what you want. However, it will hurt your straight line performance, if that's what you want. Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Do you think the absence of the optional rear swaybar explains the > sideward motion I feel from the rear end? Especially when I > accelerate & > make a sharp > turn at the same time! > > Best regards > > > - Original Message - > Wrom: PEGAUTFJMVRESKPNKMBI > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) > > > > Pelle > > > > Your car may not have one.it's an option. If you have one, you > can't > miss > > it. In the front it will be a bar that connects to the botton of > one a-arm > > and goes to the other a-arm. In the rear it will be connected to > each > lower > > control arm and crosses just under the rear end cover. > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Bill C > > 70 LS6 > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?)
BTW: the thick anti-sway bar from a 2nd gen f-body will bolt right up. Find one from a '78 T/A or so. I can't remember exactly what the diameter is, but it's like 1 1/8" or so. It'll drastically improve your front end handling/cornering if that's what you want. However, it will hurt your straight line performance, if that's what you want. Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Do you think the absence of the optional rear swaybar explains the > sideward motion I feel from the rear end? Especially when I > accelerate & > make a sharp > turn at the same time! > > Best regards > > > - Original Message - > Wrom: PEGAUTFJMVRESKPNKMBI > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) > > > > Pelle > > > > Your car may not have one.it's an option. If you have one, you > can't > miss > > it. In the front it will be a bar that connects to the botton of > one a-arm > > and goes to the other a-arm. In the rear it will be connected to > each > lower > > control arm and crosses just under the rear end cover. > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Bill C > > 70 LS6 > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?)
Do you think the absence of the optional rear swaybar explains the sideward motion I feel from the rear end? Especially when I accelerate & make a sharp turn at the same time! Best regards - Original Message - Wrom: PEGAUTFJMVRESKPNKMBI To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?) > Pelle > > Your car may not have one.it's an option. If you have one, you can't miss > it. In the front it will be a bar that connects to the botton of one a-arm > and goes to the other a-arm. In the rear it will be connected to each lower > control arm and crosses just under the rear end cover. > > Hope this helps > > Bill C > 70 LS6 > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?)
Pelle Your car may not have one.it's an option. If you have one, you can't miss it. In the front it will be a bar that connects to the botton of one a-arm and goes to the other a-arm. In the rear it will be connected to each lower control arm and crosses just under the rear end cover. Hope this helps Bill C 70 LS6 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Anti sway bar (removed?)
Is there any reason for having the anti sway bar removed? I simply cant't find one on my -71 chevelle 2-d ht? Strange or have I missed sth? Where is it supposed to be located? This is getting ugly? Best regards Pelle
