Re: [Chevelle-List] The X pipe

2002-02-08 Thread bdo_chevelle


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I know several people that claim both increased power 
and better/quieter exhaust system noise with an X-pipe 
installed.  However, I believe they're all using the Dr. 
Gas version, which is definitely more expensive than the 
Magnaflow.  A friend of mine actually did a little bit 
of research as he was considering making his own; I'll 
see if I can pick his brain.

Brad O.

Larry Williams wrote:
 Did any of you see the article in March Car Craft about the X pipe installation 
 on the mustang exhaust system.  It was a horsepower comparision with the H pipe 
 and open headers.  The X pipe made 335 hp to 323 with the H pipe and 333 with 
 open headers.  Open header made the most torque.  This is second article I have 
 read about the X  pipe.  They seem like a good investment compared to the cost.  
 Magnoflow sells it for $80. thru retailer muffler shops.  12 hp at the rear 
 wheels increase  Any thought s?  


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Re: [Chevelle-List] The X pipe

2002-02-08 Thread Kelly C. Hanna

At 09:28 PM 02/07/2002, you wrote:
Did any of you see the
article in March Car Craft about the X pipe installation on the mustang
exhaust system. It was a horsepower comparision with the H pipe and
open headers. The X pipe made 335 hp to 323 with the H pipe and 333
with open headers. Open header made the most torque. This is
second article I have read about the X pipe. They seem like a
good investment compared to the cost. Magnoflow sells it for $80.
thru retailer muffler shops. 12 hp at the rear wheels
increase Any thought s? 
My friend Ray Buck swears by his DR. Gas x-pipe

Kelly C. Hanna
El Camino Country
www.hannawoodworks.com







[Chevelle-List] Magnaflow x-pipe

2002-02-08 Thread bdo_chevelle


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I asked a friend of mine about the Magnaflow x-pipe; he 
was considering it for his '74 Super Duty T/A but wound 
up using the Dr. Gas version instead.  Apparently the 
Magnaflow pipe is constructed by welding 2 x-shaped 
halves together and this allows the internal crossover 
to be easily shaped.  His reply is below.

Brad

PS  He lives in Arkansas so Critter is a perfectly 
acceptable nickname.  ;^)

Long story short, I couldn't find any users of the Magnaflow
and I didn't want to be the one to test it.

The design appears to be sound. The stamped halves would be a smoother
transition than two 90 degree bends with holes cut in the welded area. I'd
have tried it but I just didn't have the money to do it twice if I wasn't
happy. Thus the decision to go with a proven performer.

Critter

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Re: [Chevelle-List] The X pipe

2002-02-08 Thread Larry Fisher



Mucho better.

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  Larry 
  Williams 
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  Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 9:20 
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  pipe
  
  Is this better?
  
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From: 
Larry 
Williams 
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Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 7:28 
PM
Subject: [Chevelle-List] The X 
pipe

Did any of you see the article in March Car Craft about the X pipe 
installation on the mustang exhaust system. It was a horsepower 
comparision with the H pipe and open headers. The X pipe made 335 hp 
to323 with the H pipe and 333 with open headers. Open header 
made the most torque. This is second article I have read about the 
X pipe. They seem like a good investment compared to the 
cost.Magnoflow sells it for $80. thru retailer muffler 
shops.12 hp at the rear wheels increase Any thought 
s?


Re: [Chevelle-List] The X pipe

2002-02-08 Thread Rob Thorburn



Hey Larry;
I have built several X pipe exhaust systems for 
different cars. I have gotten mandrel bends from Hooker headers, 
andwelded custom mandrel bend exhaust systems. They are the 
best! I read a article that the"H" pipe was devolopedfor 
theHemi engines but lose effectiveness over thirteen inchs in 
length. The X pipe is that much better, it is the best possible H pipe in 
a manner of speaking.The reason why is:If you think about a 
Chevy firing order, 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2, on the leftside 5 and 7 fire 
oneright after another, and on the right bank 8 and 4 fire one right after 
another. This causes a BIG increase in exhaust pressure onfor a 
short peroid. The X pipe divides the pressure evenly between the two 
mufflers. You can here that the exhaust is quieter and smoother. It 
also makes a noticeable increase in HP, even on a stocker. I am sure as 
the power goes up the improvement is more dramatic.

Rob '67 Malibu
67' El 
Camino (in a basket)

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  Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 9:20 
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  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] The X 
  pipe
  
  Is this better?
  
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From: 
Larry 
Williams 
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Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 7:28 
PM
Subject: [Chevelle-List] The X 
pipe

Did any of you see the article in March Car Craft about the X pipe 
installation on the mustang exhaust system. It was a horsepower 
comparision with the H pipe and open headers. The X pipe made 335 hp 
to323 with the H pipe and 333 with open headers. Open header 
made the most torque. This is second article I have read about the 
X pipe. They seem like a good investment compared to the 
cost.Magnoflow sells it for $80. thru retailer muffler 
shops.12 hp at the rear wheels increase Any thought 
s?


Re: [Chevelle-List] The X pipe

2002-02-08 Thread Larry Williams



Where do get info about the Dr Gas X pipe?

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  Kelly C. Hanna 
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  Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 5:22 
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  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] The X 
  pipe
  At 09:28 PM 02/07/2002, you wrote:
  Did any of you see 
the article in March Car Craft about the X pipe installation on the mustang 
exhaust system. It was a horsepower comparision with the H pipe and 
open headers. The X pipe made 335 hp to 323 with the H pipe and 333 
with open headers. Open header made the most torque. This is 
second article I have read about the X pipe. They seem like a 
good investment compared to the cost. Magnoflow sells it for $80. thru 
retailer muffler shops. 12 hp at the rear wheels increase 
Any thought s? My friend Ray Buck swears by his 
  DR. Gas x-pipe
  Kelly C. HannaEl Camino Countrywww.hannawoodworks.com


Re: [Chevelle-List] The X pipe

2002-02-08 Thread Larry Williams



I found the web site Dr Gas. Nice stuff.

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  Williams 
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  Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 5:34 
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  pipe
  
  Where do get info about the Dr Gas X pipe?
  
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Kelly C. Hanna 

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Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 5:22 
AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] The X 
pipe
At 09:28 PM 02/07/2002, you wrote:
Did any of you see 
  the article in March Car Craft about the X pipe installation on the 
  mustang exhaust system. It was a horsepower comparision with the H 
  pipe and open headers. The X pipe made 335 hp to 323 with the H pipe 
  and 333 with open headers. Open header made the most torque. 
  This is second article I have read about the X pipe. They seem 
  like a good investment compared to the cost. Magnoflow sells it for 
  $80. thru retailer muffler shops. 12 hp at the rear wheels 
  increase Any thought s? My friend 
Ray Buck swears by his DR. Gas x-pipe
Kelly C. HannaEl Camino Countrywww.hannawoodworks.com


[Chevelle-List] The X pipe

2002-02-07 Thread Larry Williams



Did any of you see the article in March Car Craft about the X 
pipe installation on the mustang exhaust system. It was a horsepower 
comparision with the H pipe and open headers. The X pipe made 335 hp 
to323 with the H pipe and 333 with open headers. Open header made 
the most torque. This is second article I have read about the X 
pipe. They seem like a good investment compared to the 
cost.Magnoflow sells it for $80. thru retailer 
muffler shops.12 hp at the rear wheels increase Any 
thought s?


Re: [Chevelle-List] The X pipe

2002-02-07 Thread Keith Cooper



Larry, 
Could you make your text a little 
larger.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Larry 
  Williams 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:28 
  PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-List] The X pipe
  
  Did any of you see the article in March Car Craft about the 
  X pipe installation on the mustang exhaust system. It was a horsepower 
  comparision with the H pipe and open headers. The X pipe made 335 hp 
  to323 with the H pipe and 333 with open headers. Open header made 
  the most torque. This is second article I have read about the X 
  pipe. They seem like a good investment compared to the 
  cost.Magnoflow sells it for $80. thru retailer 
  muffler shops.12 hp at the rear wheels increase Any 
  thought s?


Re: [Chevelle-List] The X pipe

2002-02-07 Thread Larry Williams



Is this better?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Larry 
  Williams 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 7:28 
  PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-List] The X pipe
  
  Did any of you see the article in March Car Craft about the X pipe 
  installation on the mustang exhaust system. It was a horsepower 
  comparision with the H pipe and open headers. The X pipe made 335 hp 
  to323 with the H pipe and 333 with open headers. Open header made 
  the most torque. This is second article I have read about the X 
  pipe. They seem like a good investment compared to the 
  cost.Magnoflow sells it for $80. thru retailer muffler 
  shops.12 hp at the rear wheels increase Any thought 
  s?