[Chevelle-list] 65 Z-16
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[Chevelle-list] 65 Z-16
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Yeah, I posted that this morning. That thing is cool! Charles---Check out my 502 powered '65 Malibu Super Sport Projecthttp://www.65ss.com - Original Message - From: Mikey To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 4:49 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] 65 Z-16 You guys think the hood spears were going high price.ck this out http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2487616339category=6164ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1 Mikey '65 Malibu SS ACES#03887
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Well I have a Z-16 convertible! It's a 1/24th scale model. The interesting part is on the bottom it says: 1/24 1965 Chevelle SS396 Z-16 used under license It's made of cast metal and the doors and hood open. Even the steering wheel turns the wheels. It's got a Chevy orange 396 with a dual inlet air cleaner. The bottom and interior are black plastic and there's a four speed shifter console and buckets. The paint job is white and it's got the correct wheel covers. Even has the flags and 396 markings on the fenders. It also says on the bottom: Saico DP8022-25 Made in China I got it at a liquer store that also sold model cars of all kinds and other curios in Newark Ca. The east bay of the San Francisco bay area. I had walked by it in the window for many months till I just had to buy it for $9.95. That's as close to a Z-16 as I'm gonna own... (Sigh) Chuck I've always heard the Z-16 number is 201 including the one ragtop. I met a guy at the MCC/ACES NE Regional at North East, MD who owned 2 Z-16's and he claimed the magic number is really 200 and the convertable doesn't exist. By the way, he was driving a black Z-16, not entered in the show, and a daily driver. Fair condition and dirty. Almost a rag in my book. It was almost inconceivable to me that a guy would have a item of this historical significance in the condition that it was. Just a few hours elbow would have have this thing looking pretty good. Said he paid $37,500 for it I don't remember when. I wonder what his other one looked like? Reminds me of another myth still unproven. Anyone else heard of a 65 with a 327/365 vette engine with solids. The L-79 was hydraulics and even though there was rumor of the factory playing around, I understand it never got out. Doesn't stop a few magazine articles over the years and a couple of guys claiming the real thing! Sorry to be so wordy guys, but sometimes it feels good to get away from all the mental tech stuff and just have fun with the history of our beloved machines. Especially for the younger guys who may be thinking What the Hell is he talking about? PHIL G. 65 SS MCC #36ACES #555 TC #1766 In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 4:38:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, Z16CHEVELLEGUY writes: Dan: I'm sure you are talking about bumper guards. These were an option on all 65 CHEVELLES. V31 ($19.95 / 15,200 made) was the number for the fronts and V32 ($9.70 / 11,037 made) for the backs.the V32 will also work on the back of the 64 chevelle.you can usually pick them up for about $175.00 a set NOS ($350.00 for both) around $100 a set for used and $125 for rechromed .the rear trim pieces you are referring to are z-16 only . two years ago those three pieces were selling for $8500.00 in Hemmings. last year a fellow decided to reproduce those 3 pieces he sells them for $2500.00. if any one is interested in buying some i do have a buddy that has a set for sale right now. your heading indicates a z-16 convertible. the funny thing is no one i have ever talked to has ever seen the one that is supposed to excist. there was a proto type el camino convertible with a 396 that i think everyone is referring to. i will have to read that article. thanks Larry (z) -- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] `65 Chevelle Malibu 327 4 spd --- - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Rocky: the articles and photos had to be from a hardtop. In all my searching I have never seen a Z16 convertible and none of the Z16 owners that I know have either. Larry (z)
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Semi knowing mark if there was one he would know about it. In fact mark has had for sale for the last 2 years a menagerie of Z16 parts with a 65 convert included. He also last summer sold a z16 rolling car to a friend of mines friend in Arizona. several of the Z16 owners do not want anyone to know who they are. Larry (z)
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Wayne: I may have spoken to you also. There were 3 or four guys around at the time. I don't want to sound critical and maybe I'm just too sentimental but it hurt me to see the condition of that car and to know that's how he keeps it. The Z-16 is the Icon of the Chevelle Universe. I hope the next people that get his cars know what they've got and preserve them for the future. I would hate to see these rot away or go to the crusher due to neglect over the years. We're not talking production here where thousands exist, 200 or 201 only!! I don't know how many documented still exist. I've heard 57 and 130 something. I had an L-79 in 65 and saw a Z-16 back then at Aquasco Dragaway in southern MD. I was in awe as a 17 yr old and even more so today. I've seen a few more since and still Love looking at them. I guess that's what makes me the Chevelle person that I am. I'm on my 4th 65. I show it, race it, drive it, enjoy it and Love IT! After family, religion, and all t! he other responsibilities of life are taken care of, my Chevelle is ME. I'm 54 and will now probably never own a Z-16, but I can still dream the dream!! PHIL G. 65 SS MCC #36 ACES #555 TC #1766 In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 7:23:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Phil. I also spoke to him at length. He has THREE Z-16 not two. and drives them taking turns as daily drivers, Store/work/shoping/ mall ect. Flashy/65 came down with him .and told me he has had them for yeras and he just wants to have Fun with Them. not speen his life washing,waxing,polishing and building a bubble aroud them ! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 Z-16 Conv. I've always heard the Z-16 number is 201 including the one ragtop. I met a guy at the MCC/ACES NE Regional at North East, MD who owned 2 Z-16's and he claimed the magic number is really 200 and the convertable doesn't exist. By the way, he was driving a black Z-16, not entered in the show, and a daily driver. Fair condition and dirty. Almost a rag in my book. It was almost inconceivable to me that a guy would have a item of this historical significance in the condition that it was. Just a few hours elbow would have have this thing looking pretty good. Said he paid $37,500 for it I don't remember when. I wonder what his other one looked like? Reminds me of another myth still unproven. Anyone else heard of a 65 with a 327/365 vette engine with solids. The L-79 was hydraulics and even though there was rumor of the factory playing around, I understand it never got out. Doesn't stop a few magazine articles over the years and a couple of guys claiming the real thing! Sorry to be so wordy guys, but sometimes it feels good to get away from all the mental tech stuff and just have fun with the history of our beloved machines. Especially for the younger guys who may be thinking What the Hell is he talking about? PHIL G. 65 SS MCC #36ACES #555 TC #1766 In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 4:38:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, Z16CHEVELLEGUY writes: Dan: I'm sure you are talking about bumper guards. These were an option on all 65 CHEVELLES. V31 ($19.95 / 15,200 made) was the number for the fronts and V32 ($9.70 / 11,037 made) for the backs.the V32 will also work on the back of the 64 chevelle.you can usually pick them up for about $175.00 a set NOS ($350.00 for both) around $100 a set for used and $125 for rechromed .the rear trim pieces you are referring to are z-16 only . two years ago those three pieces were selling for $8500.00 in Hemmings. last year a fellow decided to reproduce those 3 pieces he sells them for $2500.00. if any one is interested in buying some i do have a buddy that has a set for sale right now. your heading indicates a z-16 convertible. the funny thing is no one i have ever talked to has ever seen the one that is supposed to excist. there was a proto type el camino convertible with a 396 that i think everyone is referring to. i will have to read that article. thanks Larry (z) - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Good story Kent. Very enjoyable. I know at one time Mark Meekins was putting together a Z-16 from many parts cars. I don't know if he ever finished but a lot Z-16 parts were all offered for sale by him some time ago. Wouldn't it be something if he put the story together to legitimize the conv. myth. Just a crazy thought. No malice intended Mark. No lawsuits please. I was a loyal member of NCOA til the end and belong to LGC as well as many other clubs today. Phil G. 65 SS MCC #36 ACES #555 TC #1766 In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:18:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In regards to the possibility of a '65 Z-16 convertible ever existing, I remember reading a letter that was sent in to the read forum of one of the many magazines that I subscribe to. The letter asked if there was ever a ...160 mph speedometer that was factory installed in a '65 Chevelle ? The letter went on to say The reason I ask is that about six months ago while looking through a junkyard, I came across a '65 Chevelle convertible and I noticed it had a 160 mph speedometer. The editor's response was that there was supposedly one '65 Chevelle Z-16 convertible built, but not found. And that Mark Meekins (spelling ?) from the National Chevelle Owners Association would be in contact with the author of the letter. That letter was written a number of years ago. And I have never heard another word about it. Perhaps it was a dead end ? Just thought I would share that story for those who have not heard about it. Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) ACES #5102 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks for sharing Dale. The Myth lives on!! Phil G. 65 SS MCC #36 ACES #555 TC #1766 In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:02:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Being the skeptical and show me the proof type, I got involved with a thread on Team Chevelle. http://www.chevelles.com/forum/Forum29/HTML/001832.html The Popular Mechanics web site (http://popularmechanics.com/automotive/sub_coll_vintage/1999/4/65_chevelle/) said one was built for Bunkie Knudsen although GM claims ALL were hardtops and only 200 of those made. Anyway, the TC thread has a gentleman who claimed to have owned the car and bought it used through the GM Tech Center and was triple Gold and not Red, Black or Yellow. No dealer records, no insurance records, no state vehicle registration records exist so far. Like FOX News, I just report it, you decide. Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wayne Kline Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 7:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 Z-16 Conv. The Z-16 conv. myth has been circulating for along time. I veiw it the same as Big Foot. They my have fabed up one in the engineering/reaserch dept. just like they did a 4 wheel drive El-Camino. but the only thing the 4X4 El-Camino saw was the big blue torch. Being the Z-16 conv has not sown up in 37 years , I am willling to bet dollars to dounuts, that if they proto-typed a 65 BB Z-16 type conv it meet the same scrap heap fate - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have noticed some talk about the NCOA. Okay I'm new here and to the world of chevelles. Bought a 64 el camino about 6 months ago and am slowly making it a daily driver. Ihave a book by Mike Mueller called the Chevelle buyers guide. From what I can get from some of the posts the NCOA isn't around anymore.Is that right and why? Thanks for any help, Vernon - Original Message - From: 396guy To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:02 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 65 Z-16 Conv. Maybe Mark's reply is coming with the next issue of the NCOA magazine? LOL! Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kent LewisSent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:18 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 Z-16 Conv. In regards to the possibility of a '65 Z-16 convertible ever existing, I remember reading a letter that was sent in to the read forumof one of the many magazines that I subscribe to. The letter asked if there was ever a "...160 mph speedometer that was factory installed in a '65 Chevelle ? The letter went on to say "The reason I ask is that about six months ago while looking through a junkyard, I came across a '65 Chevelle convertible and I noticed it had a 160 mph speedometer." The editor's response was that there was supposedly one '65 Chevelle Z-16 convertible built, but not found. And that Mark Meekins (spelling ?) from the National Chevelle Owners Association would be in contact with the author of the letter. That letter was written a number of years ago. And I have never heard another word about it. Perhaps it was a dead end ? Just thought I would share that story for those who have not heard about it. Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) ACES #5102
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In my opinion I find it hard to believe that one of the 200 production Z-16 Chevelles was a convertible For two reasons. One is because they were built with very limited amount of variance in the options selection. Even the color selection was limited. Two is they were built on a convertible frame so Chevy engineering must have been nervous about body flex of the 2 door and a convertible would have more body flex and cowl shake. The 201 number counts one prototype. I guess it was possible that a Chevy executive could have had one built (making the total 202) like the 1968 convertible Z/28 but I would think a picture of it would have surfaced by now. IMO - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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on 7/30/02 9:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NCOA was the National Chevelle Owners Association. It's pres. was Mark Meekins. It went out of existence about a year or so ago and merged with the Late Great Chevys which until then was mostly older big bodied cars like impalas and such rather than the mid-size Chevelles. Early members of the NCOA became high number members of LGC whose membership numbers go well into the 50,000's. I don't know why it happened but I'd assume it was time, money and the coming of ACES and the strong leadership of its president Chuck Hansen. For any of you guys out there that don't belong to ACES, you should. This is a quality organization. PHIL G. 65 SS MCC #36 ACES #555 TC #1766 In a message dated Tue, 30 Jul 2002 7:34:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have noticed some talk about the NCOA. Okay I'm new here and to the world of chevelles. Bought a 64 el camino about 6 months ago and am slowly making it a daily driver. I have a book by Mike Mueller called the Chevelle buyers guide. From what I can get from some of the posts the NCOA isn't around anymore. Is that right and why? Thanks for any help, Vernon - Original Message - From: 396guy To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:02 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 65 Z-16 Conv. Maybe Mark's reply is coming with the next issue of the NCOA magazine? LOL! Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kent Lewis Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 Z-16 Conv. In regards to the possibility of a '65 Z-16 convertible ever existing, I remember reading a letter that was sent in to the read forum of one of the many magazines that I subscribe to. The letter asked if there was ever a ...160 mph speedometer that was factory installed in a '65 Chevelle ? The letter went on to say The reason I ask is that about six months ago while looking through a junkyard, I came across a '65 Chevelle convertible and I noticed it had a 160 mph speedometer. The editor's response was that there was supposedly one '65 Chevelle Z-16 convertible built, but not found. And that Mark Meekins (spelling ?) from the National Chevelle Owners Association would be in contact with the author of the letter. That letter was written a number of years ago. And I have never heard another word about it. Perhaps it was a dead end ? Just thought I would share that story for those who have not heard about it. Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) ACES #5102 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the endorsement, Phil. (The check is in the mail!) As an aside, for all the ACES Members who've been making the daily trek to the mailbox looking for the latest issue of Chevelle World, hold on just a little longer... it's coming! With all the traveling we've done since Chevell-abration, we're just now putting the final touches on that issue and getting it ready to go on press, The wait'll be worth it, though. Great color coverage of the biggest Chevelle Show on earth, the Peach State Southeast Regional, tech on deciphering spiral shocks... Well, I don't want to give it all away, but it's a really good issue. Chuck - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I don't think you were there at the time I was. I strolled by your green 65 a few times and you were knee deep in conversation with admirers or peers. yeah I to dream of a Z-16 gessI have to settle fo my regular 64 chevelles - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 Z-16 Conv. Wayne: I may have spoken to you also. There were 3 or four guys around at the time. I don't want to sound critical and maybe I'm just too sentimental but it hurt me to see the condition of that car and to know that's how he keeps it. The Z-16 is the Icon of the Chevelle Universe. I hope the next people that get his cars know what they've got and preserve them for the future. I would hate to see these rot away or go to the crusher due to neglect over the years. We're not talking production here where thousands exist, 200 or 201 only!! I don't know how many documented still exist. I've heard 57 and 130 something. I had an L-79 in 65 and saw a Z-16 back then at Aquasco Dragaway in southern MD. I was in awe as a 17 yr old and even more so today. I've seen a few more since and still Love looking at them. I guess that's what makes me the Chevelle person that I am. I'm on my 4th 65. I show it, race it, drive it, enjoy it and Love IT! After family, religion, and all t! he other responsibilities of life are taken care of, my Chevelle is ME. I'm 54 and will now probably never own a Z-16, but I can still dream the dream!! PHIL G. 65 SS MCC #36 ACES #555 TC #1766 In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 7:23:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Phil. I also spoke to him at length. He has THREE Z-16 not two. and drives them taking turns as daily drivers, Store/work/shoping/ mall ect. Flashy/65 came down with him .and told me he has had them for yeras and he just wants to have Fun with Them. not speen his life washing,waxing,polishing and building a bubble aroud them ! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 Z-16 Conv. I've always heard the Z-16 number is 201 including the one ragtop. I met a guy at the MCC/ACES NE Regional at North East, MD who owned 2 Z-16's and he claimed the magic number is really 200 and the convertable doesn't exist. By the way, he was driving a black Z-16, not entered in the show, and a daily driver. Fair condition and dirty. Almost a rag in my book. It was almost inconceivable to me that a guy would have a item of this historical significance in the condition that it was. Just a few hours elbow would have have this thing looking pretty good. Said he paid $37,500 for it I don't remember when. I wonder what his other one looked like? Reminds me of another myth still unproven. Anyone else heard of a 65 with a 327/365 vette engine with solids. The L-79 was hydraulics and even though there was rumor of the factory playing around, I understand it never got out. Doesn't stop a few magazine articles over the years and a couple of guys claiming the real thing! Sorry to be so wordy guys, but sometimes it feels good to get away from all the mental tech stuff and just have fun with the history of our beloved machines. Especially for the younger guys who may be thinking What the Hell is he talking about? PHIL G. 65 SS MCC #36ACES #555 TC #1766 In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 4:38:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, Z16CHEVELLEGUY writes: Dan: I'm sure you are talking about bumper guards. These were an option on all 65 CHEVELLES. V31 ($19.95 / 15,200 made) was the number for the fronts and V32 ($9.70 / 11,037 made) for the backs.the V32 will also work on the back of the 64 chevelle.you can usually pick them up for about $175.00 a set NOS ($350.00 for both) around $100 a set for used and $125 for rechromed .the rear trim pieces you are referring to are z-16 only . two years ago those three pieces were selling for $8500.00 in Hemmings. last year a fellow decided to reproduce those 3 pieces he sells them for $2500.00. if any one is interested in buying some i do have a buddy that has a set for sale right now. your heading indicates a z-16 convertible. the funny thing is no one i have ever talked to has ever seen the one that is supposed to excist. there was a proto type el camino convertible with a 396 that i think everyone is referring to. i will have to read that article. thanks Larry (z) - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net
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Dan: I'm sure you are talking about bumper guards. These were an option on all 65 CHEVELLES. V31 ($19.95 / 15,200 made) was the number for the fronts and V32 ($9.70 / 11,037 made) for the backs.the V32 will also work on the back of the 64 chevelle.you can usually pick them up for about $175.00 a set NOS ($350.00 for both) around $100 a set for used and $125 for rechromed .the rear trim pieces you are referring to are z-16 only . two years ago those three pieces were selling for $8500.00 in Hemmings. last year a fellow decided to reproduce those 3 pieces he sells them for $2500.00. if any one is interested in buying some i do have a buddy that has a set for sale right now. your heading indicates a z-16 convertible. the funny thing is no one i have ever talked to has ever seen the one that is supposed to excist. there was a proto type el camino convertible with a 396 that i think everyone is referring to. i will have to read that article. thanks Larry (z)
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this one goes right up there with the 50 dollar corvette everyone at one time could of bought. you know the one that the guy died in and the only way to get rid of the odor was to burn the car? right now i know where 4 z16s are that are being restored. if anyone wants to see some pics of one in its current state email me and I'll send you some pictures. larry (z)
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Dale: I too have done extensive research and I know several z16 owners. Mark Meekins who is supposedly Mr. Z16 doesn't even know for sure.the 216 made is a new number to me and everywhere i have seen an article it has been 201. maybe this owner better do some more research or tell us where he got his information.the one thing that would tip this car off would be the VIN. all z-16 were made in Kansas City except for the first one which was made in Baltimore. Dale if you are interested I do have two photos of trim tags for z-16. Larry (z)
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Larry I just caught up on this little debate on the Z16s anyway you might be glad to know right now there is another Z16 getting ready for the resto knife. Irvin Patrick a guy that restores mostly Corvettes maybe some of you might know him, recently bought one out of Penn. He knows I love Chevelles so he invited me up to his shop (if you all have forgotten I work in an old old parts store) to see it. Although it is in sad shape it is complete and ready for the knife. Its great that I just got to see one of these legendary cars. BTW pick up the latest issue of Car Craft and read in the letters section, I wrote a letter to them awhile back and I'm there, just surprised me. Later. Josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan: I'm sure you are talking about bumper guards. These were an option on all 65 CHEVELLES. V31 ($19.95 / 15,200 made) was the number for the fronts and V32 ($9.70 / 11,037 made) for the backs.the V32 will also work on the back of the 64 chevelle.you can usually pick them up for about $175.00 a set NOS ($350.00 for both) around $100 a set for used and $125 for rechromed .the rear trim pieces you are referring to are z-16 only . two years ago those three pieces were selling for $8500.00 in Hemmings. last year a fellow decided to reproduce those 3 pieces he sells them for $2500.00. if any one is interested in buying some i do have a buddy that has a set for sale right now. your heading indicates a z-16 convertible. the funny thing is no one i have ever talked to has ever seen the one that is supposed to excist. there was a proto type el! camino convertible with a 396 that i think everyone is referring to. i will have to read that article. thanks Larry (z) Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better
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I've always heard the Z-16 number is 201 including the one ragtop. I met a guy at the MCC/ACES NE Regional at North East, MD who owned 2 Z-16's and he claimed the magic number is really 200 and the convertable doesn't exist. By the way, he was driving a black Z-16, not entered in the show, and a daily driver. Fair condition and dirty. Almost a rag in my book. It was almost inconceivable to me that a guy would have a item of this historical significance in the condition that it was. Just a few hours elbow would have have this thing looking pretty good. Said he paid $37,500 for it I don't remember when. I wonder what his other one looked like? Reminds me of another myth still unproven. Anyone else heard of a 65 with a 327/365 vette engine with solids. The L-79 was hydraulics and even though there was rumor of the factory playing around, I understand it never got out. Doesn't stop a few magazine articles over the years and a couple of guys claiming the real thing! Sorry to be so wordy guys, but sometimes it feels good to get away from all the mental tech stuff and just have fun with the history of our beloved machines. Especially for the younger guys who may be thinking What the Hell is he talking about? PHIL G. 65 SS MCC #36ACES #555 TC #1766 In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 4:38:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, Z16CHEVELLEGUY writes: Dan: I'm sure you are talking about bumper guards. These were an option on all 65 CHEVELLES. V31 ($19.95 / 15,200 made) was the number for the fronts and V32 ($9.70 / 11,037 made) for the backs.the V32 will also work on the back of the 64 chevelle.you can usually pick them up for about $175.00 a set NOS ($350.00 for both) around $100 a set for used and $125 for rechromed .the rear trim pieces you are referring to are z-16 only . two years ago those three pieces were selling for $8500.00 in Hemmings. last year a fellow decided to reproduce those 3 pieces he sells them for $2500.00. if any one is interested in buying some i do have a buddy that has a set for sale right now. your heading indicates a z-16 convertible. the funny thing is no one i have ever talked to has ever seen the one that is supposed to excist. there was a proto type el camino convertible with a 396 that i think everyone is referring to. i will have to read that article. thanks Larry (z) - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Larry, The first paragraph states if you wanted to make a copy but no one knew where the original was, how would you know what the finished product looks like? it says he did it from articles and photos. car looks very nice, the article was very short, only one column. Rocky Hill --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan: I'm sure you are talking about bumper guards. These were an option on all 65 CHEVELLES. V31 ($19.95 / 15,200 made) was the number for the fronts and V32 ($9.70 / 11,037 made) for the backs.the V32 will also work on the back of the 64 chevelle.you can usually pick them up for about $175.00 a set NOS ($350.00 for both) around $100 a set for used and $125 for rechromed .the rear trim pieces you are referring to are z-16 only . two years ago those three pieces were selling for $8500.00 in Hemmings. last year a fellow decided to reproduce those 3 pieces he sells them for $2500.00. if any one is interested in buying some i do have a buddy that has a set for sale right now. your heading indicates a z-16 convertible. the funny thing is no one i have ever talked to has ever seen the one that is supposed to excist. there was a proto type el camino convertible with a 396 that i think everyone is referring to. i will have to read that article. thanks Larry (z) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The Z-16 conv. myth has been circulating for along time. I veiw it the same as Big Foot. They my have fabed up one in the engineering/reaserch dept. just like they did a 4 wheel drive El-Camino. but the only thing the 4X4 El-Camino saw was the big blue torch. Being the Z-16 conv has not sown up in 37 years , I am willling to bet dollars to dounuts, that if they proto-typed a 65 BB Z-16 typeconv it meet the same scrap heap fate - Original Message - From: 396guy To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:59 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 65 Z-16 Conv. That's the same car that was at a SSC from last month's issue and they promised an article. Of course now there seems to be, (Quote) "216 SS models in 1965 with the Z/16 option..."according to the owner. In the last issue they reported that the owner did extensive research on the Internet on the one (reportedly) convertible made. I've done extensive searching on the Internet and I've yet to find anything about it. One gentleman at TC claims to have owned it and another says he rode in it. It was reported to be a triple gold - and a gold color that wasn'toffered on 65 Chevelles at that. I particularly like the last sentence of the article, "There is no pretense made that this car is the original..." I'm sure the license plate ~1965Z16~ doesn't add to the pretense. Some young enthusiast will see it and in 5 or 10 years will swear he saw the one and only Z16 convertible. It is a gorgeous car with attention to detail well carried out. By "brackets" do you mean the Bumper Guards? I'm sure those were an option on all 65 Chevelles as they were in later years. The rear panel (as stated in the article) was done that way to make way for the 396 emblem and was unique to the Z16. Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 9:58 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] 65 Z-16 Conv.Howdy guys (and Larry Z in particular) In the new issue of Super Chevy, on pages 152-153, there is an article on a 65 Z-16 clone. I thought everyone might want to check it out. This article also leaves me wondering about a couple things. First, were the brackets on the bumper a Z-16 only option, and what are they called, as I'm sure "bumper brackets" is not correct. Second, what's the deal with the rear trim panel? Was that a 396 only option? Looks interesting, almost reminds me of a Roadrunner. Take it easy. Dan McIntosh 65 Malibu
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Thats great Larry. 3 on the road to recovery. The only local Z-16 was owned by a real Jack A##, He beat thesnot out of it for 4 years replacing the eng and trans with a 327 then a 454, He hit a pole in 84. I aproched him again at that time and in 86 as it sat in the back of the shed and was flooded out a few time during heavy storms. In 90 a freind said he saw it in a local small scrap yard . I ran ovet the next day. It was LONG gone, it was thereand ended up a Grandview speedway as a late model stock car. There was a guy at the MCC NE aces show this June . He has three Z-16 him self and drives them ever day. to work shopping ect. He commented. " that's what there made for. Anyhow the Museums has enough cars already " - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 5:45 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 Z-16 Conv. this one goes right up there with the 50 dollar corvette everyone at one time could of bought. you know the one that the guy died in and the only way to get rid of the odor was to burn the car? right now i know where 4 z16s are that are being restored. if anyone wants to see some pics of one in its current state email me and I'll send you some pictures. larry (z)
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Phil. I also spoke to him at length. He has THREE Z-16 not two. and drives them taking turns as daily drivers, Store/work/shoping/ mall ect. Flashy/65 came down with him .and told me he has had them for yeras and he just wants to have Fun with Them. not speen his life washing,waxing,polishing and building a bubble aroud them ! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 Z-16 Conv. I've always heard the Z-16 number is 201 including the one ragtop. I met a guy at the MCC/ACES NE Regional at North East, MD who owned 2 Z-16's and he claimed the magic number is really 200 and the convertable doesn't exist. By the way, he was driving a black Z-16, not entered in the show, and a daily driver. Fair condition and dirty. Almost a rag in my book. It was almost inconceivable to me that a guy would have a item of this historical significance in the condition that it was. Just a few hours elbow would have have this thing looking pretty good. Said he paid $37,500 for it I don't remember when. I wonder what his other one looked like? Reminds me of another myth still unproven. Anyone else heard of a 65 with a 327/365 vette engine with solids. The L-79 was hydraulics and even though there was rumor of the factory playing around, I understand it never got out. Doesn't stop a few magazine articles over the years and a couple of guys claiming the real thing! Sorry to be so wordy guys, but sometimes it feels good to get away from all the mental tech stuff and just have fun with the history of our beloved machines. Especially for the younger guys who may be thinking What the Hell is he talking about? PHIL G. 65 SS MCC #36ACES #555 TC #1766 In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 4:38:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, Z16CHEVELLEGUY writes: Dan: I'm sure you are talking about bumper guards. These were an option on all 65 CHEVELLES. V31 ($19.95 / 15,200 made) was the number for the fronts and V32 ($9.70 / 11,037 made) for the backs.the V32 will also work on the back of the 64 chevelle.you can usually pick them up for about $175.00 a set NOS ($350.00 for both) around $100 a set for used and $125 for rechromed .the rear trim pieces you are referring to are z-16 only . two years ago those three pieces were selling for $8500.00 in Hemmings. last year a fellow decided to reproduce those 3 pieces he sells them for $2500.00. if any one is interested in buying some i do have a buddy that has a set for sale right now. your heading indicates a z-16 convertible. the funny thing is no one i have ever talked to has ever seen the one that is supposed to excist. there was a proto type el camino convertible with a 396 that i think everyone is referring to. i will have to read that article. thanks Larry (z) - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If I were him, I would also drive them daily (mainly cause I would have 3 of them). I wonder if he would drive them daily if he only had 1? I don't know if I would drive a Z-16 around as a daily driver...too nervous. I however think if you drive one everday, you would be at your peak happyness. Everyday you know that you are going to hop into your 396 BB and drive away with the feeling knowing that you are driving an true american muscle car! I think I would rather have a SS clone to drive daily instead of a true SS that only 201 made. JMHO... Chad - Original Message - From: Wayne Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 Z-16 Conv. Phil. I also spoke to him at length. He has THREE Z-16 not two. and drives them taking turns as daily drivers, Store/work/shoping/ mall ect. Flashy/65 came down with him .and told me he has had them for yeras and he just wants to have Fun with Them. not speen his life washing,waxing,polishing and building a bubble aroud them ! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 Z-16 Conv. I've always heard the Z-16 number is 201 including the one ragtop. I met a guy at the MCC/ACES NE Regional at North East, MD who owned 2 Z-16's and he claimed the magic number is really 200 and the convertable doesn't exist. By the way, he was driving a black Z-16, not entered in the show, and a daily driver. Fair condition and dirty. Almost a rag in my book. It was almost inconceivable to me that a guy would have a item of this historical significance in the condition that it was. Just a few hours elbow would have have this thing looking pretty good. Said he paid $37,500 for it I don't remember when. I wonder what his other one looked like? Reminds me of another myth still unproven. Anyone else heard of a 65 with a 327/365 vette engine with solids. The L-79 was hydraulics and even though there was rumor of the factory playing around, I understand it never got out. Doesn't stop a few magazine articles over the years and a couple of guys claiming the real thing! Sorry to be so wordy guys, but sometimes it feels good to get away from all the mental tech stuff and just have fun with the history of our beloved machines. Especially for the younger guys who may be thinking What the Hell is he talking about? PHIL G. 65 SS MCC #36ACES #555 TC #1766 In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 4:38:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, Z16CHEVELLEGUY writes: Dan: I'm sure you are talking about bumper guards. These were an option on all 65 CHEVELLES. V31 ($19.95 / 15,200 made) was the number for the fronts and V32 ($9.70 / 11,037 made) for the backs.the V32 will also work on the back of the 64 chevelle.you can usually pick them up for about $175.00 a set NOS ($350.00 for both) around $100 a set for used and $125 for rechromed .the rear trim pieces you are referring to are z-16 only . two years ago those three pieces were selling for $8500.00 in Hemmings. last year a fellow decided to reproduce those 3 pieces he sells them for $2500.00. if any one is interested in buying some i do have a buddy that has a set for sale right now. your heading indicates a z-16 convertible. the funny thing is no one i have ever talked to has ever seen the one that is supposed to excist. there was a proto type el camino convertible with a 396 that i think everyone is referring to. i will have to read that article. thanks Larry (z) - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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In regards to the possibility of a '65 Z-16 convertible ever existing, I remember reading a letter that was sent in to the read forumof one of the many magazines that I subscribe to. The letter asked if there was ever a "...160 mph speedometer that was factory installed in a '65 Chevelle ? The letter went on to say "The reason I ask is that about six months ago while looking through a junkyard, I came across a '65 Chevelle convertible and I noticed it had a 160 mph speedometer." The editor's response was that there was supposedly one '65 Chevelle Z-16 convertible built, but not found. And that Mark Meekins (spelling ?) from the National Chevelle Owners Association would be in contact with the author of the letter. That letter was written a number of years ago. And I have never heard another word about it. Perhaps it was a dead end ? Just thought I would share that story for those who have not heard about it. Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) ACES #5102
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Maybe Mark's reply is coming with the next issue of the NCOA magazine? LOL! Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kent LewisSent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:18 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 65 Z-16 Conv. In regards to the possibility of a '65 Z-16 convertible ever existing, I remember reading a letter that was sent in to the read forumof one of the many magazines that I subscribe to. The letter asked if there was ever a "...160 mph speedometer that was factory installed in a '65 Chevelle ? The letter went on to say "The reason I ask is that about six months ago while looking through a junkyard, I came across a '65 Chevelle convertible and I noticed it had a 160 mph speedometer." The editor's response was that there was supposedly one '65 Chevelle Z-16 convertible built, but not found. And that Mark Meekins (spelling ?) from the National Chevelle Owners Association would be in contact with the author of the letter. That letter was written a number of years ago. And I have never heard another word about it. Perhaps it was a dead end ? Just thought I would share that story for those who have not heard about it. Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) ACES #5102
[Chevelle-List] 65 Z-16 Conv.
Howdy guys (and Larry Z in particular) In the new issue of Super Chevy, on pages 152-153, there is an article on a 65 Z-16 clone. I thought everyone might want to check it out. This article also leaves me wondering about a couple things. First, were the brackets on the bumper a Z-16 only option, and what are they called, as I'm sure "bumper brackets" is not correct. Second, what's the deal with the rear trim panel? Was that a 396 only option? Looks interesting, almost reminds me of a Roadrunner. Take it easy. Dan McIntosh 65 Malibu
RE: [Chevelle-List] 65 Z-16 Conv.
That's the same car that was at a SSC from last month's issue and they promised an article. Of course now there seems to be, (Quote) "216 SS models in 1965 with the Z/16 option..."according to the owner. In the last issue they reported that the owner did extensive research on the Internet on the one (reportedly) convertible made. I've done extensive searching on the Internet and I've yet to find anything about it. One gentleman at TC claims to have owned it and another says he rode in it. It was reported to be a triple gold - and a gold color that wasn'toffered on 65 Chevelles at that. I particularly like the last sentence of the article, "There is no pretense made that this car is the original..." I'm sure the license plate ~1965Z16~ doesn't add to the pretense. Some young enthusiast will see it and in 5 or 10 years will swear he saw the one and only Z16 convertible. It is a gorgeous car with attention to detail well carried out. By "brackets" do you mean the Bumper Guards? I'm sure those were an option on all 65 Chevelles as they were in later years. The rear panel (as stated in the article) was done that way to make way for the 396 emblem and was unique to the Z16. Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 9:58 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] 65 Z-16 Conv.Howdy guys (and Larry Z in particular) In the new issue of Super Chevy, on pages 152-153, there is an article on a 65 Z-16 clone. I thought everyone might want to check it out. This article also leaves me wondering about a couple things. First, were the brackets on the bumper a Z-16 only option, and what are they called, as I'm sure "bumper brackets" is not correct. Second, what's the deal with the rear trim panel? Was that a 396 only option? Looks interesting, almost reminds me of a Roadrunner. Take it easy. Dan McIntosh 65 Malibu
