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You'll be surprised to know how much moisture comes out of a compressor. That is why it has a drain valve to remove the water the lies in the tank! - Original Message - From: Tom Tomlinson t...@eagleshore.com To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question If you want dry air in the tires, then why not dry out the air (by cooling for instance) before filling the tires. It's probably pretty dry coming out of a compressor anyway. I also can't see the advantage of putting an inert gas in the tires. You still have air on the outside of the tires. Seems like a waste of money. Tom Tomlinson '71 Malibu tinindia...@aol.com wrote: Another question about nitrogen. Shell claims their gas keeps your engine cleaner. Having worked in a chemical plant and refinery's and knowing that nitrogen is an inert gas and doesn't burn, how then can it keep engines cleaner. Nitrogen is used to purge other gases in welding and vessels. Just wondering , can anyone answer my thoughts. Wish I was still working and could ask the engineers. Thanks Darrell In a message dated 11/8/2009 12:06:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, wolbe...@sbcglobal.net writes: Nitrogen filling stations cost upwards of $5000. The folks who buy them need a return on investment, so they tout the benefits of nitrogen so they can sell it to you. To my knowledge, there is no research that shows any thing that makes it worth the money that the consumer spends. It's a profit center (once the machine is paid off) for the business that buys the equipment, nothing more. Racing teams use nitrogen to fill the tires so that they can have a consistent rise in temperature and pressure because of the lack of moisture in the tire. Street tires don't need it. BillL *From:* chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [ mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] *On Behalf Of *richard sierra *Sent:* Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:25 PM *To:* The Chevelle Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question I just purchased a new GMC vehicle and the dealer offered the following new package called Nitro Fill'. The claim is that nitrogen is better than compressed air in a tire. They claim that nitrogen is a dry gas and is free of moisture. It doesn't deteriorate the rubber and it is lss susceptible to air loss with temperature changes. I'd be interested to hear what the group thinks about this. Thanks Rich - 70 SS Coupe Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1
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I second what Leo said about Costco. Just had 4 new Hydroedges installed this weekend. They started using Nitrogen probably 1.5 years ago - no extra charge. -Krister - Original Message - From: Leo John Costigan nagit...@comcast.net To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, November 9, 2009 1:49:42 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question It’s strange that Costco will top off all tires that they sell for free. It’s been three years now and I have all three cars with tires from Costco and never paid extra for the Nitrogen they inflate their tires with. Rotation and re-balance is also free. Costco sells tires for less and gives the Nitrogen free. Dealers are gouging the public. Leo - Original Message - From: tc To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question air is 78% Nitrogen To: dansolo...@msn.com ; The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question I have a 2006 Jeep and notice that periodically my tire sensors state that my air pressure is low by 5-6 lbs. Funny thing is each time its' a different tire. The GM dealer price for this is $ 69 and they tell me that a few of the local stations are charging $100 plus Rich - 70 SS coupe To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net From: dansolo...@msn.com Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:17:22 + Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question My boss has a Mercedes with tire pressure monitors. Was constantly having to make additions. The nitrogen was recommended by the dealer and solved the problem. If I remember correctly it was pricey. Good ol air works fine for me. Thanks, Dan -- Sent using BlackBerry From: richard sierra res...@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:24:35 -0500 To: The Chevelle Mailing Listchevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question I just purchased a new GMC vehicle and the dealer offered the following new package called Nitro Fill'. The claim is that nitrogen is better than compressed air in a tire. They claim that nitrogen is a dry gas and is free of moisture. It doesn't deteriorate the rubber and it is lss susceptible to air loss with temperature changes. I'd be interested to hear what the group thinks about this. Thanks Rich - 70 SS Coupe Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.
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At no extra charge there is no reason not to use Nitrogen. But even for an extra few dollars at the initial fill it is not worth it. Race cars that depend on an extra few tenths of a percent to win can use the improved performance it gives. While compressed air has more O2 content (generally 4x as much as the air is compressed to about 4 atmospheres), it is the Ozone that causes the most problems along with the sun. I’ve seen many tires rot from the outside that look perfect on the inside. The rubber on the inside is smooth and shiny and the outside is gray and cracked. If you plan to store your car with OEM red-line tires, sure add the Nitrogen to extend the life of tires you will rarely drive on. If you plan to race your car, get the Nitrogen. But if you have a driver, then you will never ever see a difference with Nitrogen over air. Brad Waller (b...@epage.com) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1 '67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of 66chevelless...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:08 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question I second what Leo said about Costco. Just had 4 new Hydroedges installed this weekend. They started using Nitrogen probably 1.5 years ago - no extra charge. -Krister - Original Message - From: Leo John Costigan nagit...@comcast.net To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, November 9, 2009 1:49:42 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question It’s strange that Costco will top off all tires that they sell for free. It’s been three years now and I have all three cars with tires from Costco and never paid extra for the Nitrogen they inflate their tires with. Rotation and re-balance is also free. Costco sells tires for less and gives the Nitrogen free. Dealers are gouging the public. Leo - Original Message - From: tc mailto:ac72...@optonline.net To: The Chevelle Mailing List mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question air is 78% Nitrogen To: dansolo...@msn.com ; The Chevelle Mailing List mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question I have a 2006 Jeep and notice that periodically my tire sensors state that my air pressure is low by 5-6 lbs. Funny thing is each time its' a different tire. The GM dealer price for this is $ 69 and they tell me that a few of the local stations are charging $100 plus Rich - 70 SS coupe _ To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net From: dansolo...@msn.com Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:17:22 + Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question My boss has a Mercedes with tire pressure monitors. Was constantly having to make additions. The nitrogen was recommended by the dealer and solved the problem. If I remember correctly it was pricey. Good ol air works fine for me. Thanks, Dan -- Sent using BlackBerry _ From: richard sierra res...@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:24:35 -0500 To: The Chevelle Mailing Listchevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question I just purchased a new GMC vehicle and the dealer offered the following new package called Nitro Fill'. The claim is that nitrogen is better than compressed air in a tire. They claim that nitrogen is a dry gas and is free of moisture. It doesn't deteriorate the rubber and it is lss susceptible to air loss with temperature changes. I'd be interested to hear what the group thinks about this. Thanks Rich - 70 SS Coupe
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Rich, Ask them to fill with Helium. It's lighter and should give you better gas mileage . Rich Just think, if it weren't for marriage, men would go through life thinking they had no faults at all. You can only be young once. But you can always be immature. --- Dave Barry - Original Message - From: richard sierra res...@hotmail.com To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2009 11:24:35 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question I just purchased a new GMC vehicle and the dealer offered the following new package called Nitro Fill'. The claim is that nitrogen is better than compressed air in a tire. They claim that nitrogen is a dry gas and is free of moisture. It doesn't deteriorate the rubber and it is lss susceptible to air loss with temperature changes. I'd be interested to hear what the group thinks about this. Thanks Rich - 70 SS Coupe Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now.
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I have a friend that used to run southwest tour circle track and I think he ran nitrogen in his race tires. Probably a waste for a street tire. Larry richard sierra wrote: I just purchased a new GMC vehicle and the dealer offered the following new package called Nitro Fill'. The claim is that nitrogen is better than compressed air in a tire. They claim that nitrogen is a dry gas and is free of moisture. It doesn't deteriorate the rubber and it is lss susceptible to air loss with temperature changes. I'd be interested to hear what the group thinks about this. Thanks Rich - 70 SS Coupe Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.54/2488 - Release Date: 11/07/09 23:52:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.54/2488 - Release Date: 11/07/09 23:52:00
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My boss has a Mercedes with tire pressure monitors. Was constantly having to make additions. The nitrogen was recommended by the dealer and solved the problem. If I remember correctly it was pricey. Good ol air works fine for me. Thanks, Dan -- Sent using BlackBerry -Original Message- From: richard sierra res...@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:24:35 To: The Chevelle Mailing Listchevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question I just purchased a new GMC vehicle and the dealer offered the following new package called Nitro Fill'. The claim is that nitrogen is better than compressed air in a tire. They claim that nitrogen is a dry gas and is free of moisture. It doesn't deteriorate the rubber and it is lss susceptible to air loss with temperature changes. I'd be interested to hear what the group thinks about this. Thanks Rich - 70 SS Coupe _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1
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Nitrogen is great for quick freezing your Beer! I have nitrogen in my tires and they do run cooler. Only thing is to always top up with nitrogen. No use putiing normal air in. - Original Message - From: Rich Pruett To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question Rich, Ask them to fill with Helium. It's lighter and should give you better gas mileage. Rich Just think, if it weren't for marriage, men would go through life thinking they had no faults at all. You can only be young once. But you can always be immature. --- Dave Barry - Original Message - From: richard sierra res...@hotmail.com To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2009 11:24:35 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question I just purchased a new GMC vehicle and the dealer offered the following new package called Nitro Fill'. The claim is that nitrogen is better than compressed air in a tire. They claim that nitrogen is a dry gas and is free of moisture. It doesn't deteriorate the rubber and it is lss susceptible to air loss with temperature changes. I'd be interested to hear what the group thinks about this. Thanks Rich - 70 SS Coupe -- Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now.
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Dan, when I fit new tyres, the nitrogen is part of the deal and being a customer top ups are free! - Original Message - From: Dan Solomon To: Chevelle List Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question My boss has a Mercedes with tire pressure monitors. Was constantly having to make additions. The nitrogen was recommended by the dealer and solved the problem. If I remember correctly it was pricey. Good ol air works fine for me. Thanks, Dan -- Sent using BlackBerry -- From: richard sierra res...@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:24:35 -0500 To: The Chevelle Mailing Listchevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question I just purchased a new GMC vehicle and the dealer offered the following new package called Nitro Fill'. The claim is that nitrogen is better than compressed air in a tire. They claim that nitrogen is a dry gas and is free of moisture. It doesn't deteriorate the rubber and it is lss susceptible to air loss with temperature changes. I'd be interested to hear what the group thinks about this. Thanks Rich - 70 SS Coupe -- Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now.
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I have a 2006 Jeep and notice that periodically my tire sensors state that my air pressure is low by 5-6 lbs. Funny thing is each time its' a different tire. The GM dealer price for this is $ 69 and they tell me that a few of the local stations are charging $100 plus Rich - 70 SS coupe To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net From: dansolo...@msn.com Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:17:22 + Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question My boss has a Mercedes with tire pressure monitors. Was constantly having to make additions. The nitrogen was recommended by the dealer and solved the problem. If I remember correctly it was pricey. Good ol air works fine for me. Thanks, Dan -- Sent using BlackBerry From: richard sierra res...@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:24:35 -0500 To: The Chevelle Mailing Listchevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question I just purchased a new GMC vehicle and the dealer offered the following new package called Nitro Fill'. The claim is that nitrogen is better than compressed air in a tire. They claim that nitrogen is a dry gas and is free of moisture. It doesn't deteriorate the rubber and it is lss susceptible to air loss with temperature changes. I'd be interested to hear what the group thinks about this. Thanks Rich - 70 SS Coupe Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/
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- Original Message - From: richard sierra To: dansolo...@msn.com ; The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question I have a 2006 Jeep and notice that periodically my tire sensors state that my air pressure is low by 5-6 lbs. Funny thing is each time its' a different tire. The GM dealer price for this is $ 69 and they tell me that a few of the local stations are charging $100 plus Rich - 70 SS coupe -- To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net From: dansolo...@msn.com Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:17:22 + Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question My boss has a Mercedes with tire pressure monitors. Was constantly having to make additions. The nitrogen was recommended by the dealer and solved the problem. If I remember correctly it was pricey. Good ol air works fine for me. Thanks, Dan -- Sent using BlackBerry -- From: richard sierra res...@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:24:35 -0500 To: The Chevelle Mailing Listchevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question I just purchased a new GMC vehicle and the dealer offered the following new package called Nitro Fill'. The claim is that nitrogen is better than compressed air in a tire. They claim that nitrogen is a dry gas and is free of moisture. It doesn't deteriorate the rubber and it is lss susceptible to air loss with temperature changes. I'd be interested to hear what the group thinks about this. Thanks Rich - 70 SS Coupe -- Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. -- Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.
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air is 78% Nitrogen To: dansolo...@msn.com ; The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question I have a 2006 Jeep and notice that periodically my tire sensors state that my air pressure is low by 5-6 lbs. Funny thing is each time its' a different tire. The GM dealer price for this is $ 69 and they tell me that a few of the local stations are charging $100 plus Rich - 70 SS coupe -- To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net From: dansolo...@msn.com Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:17:22 + Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question My boss has a Mercedes with tire pressure monitors. Was constantly having to make additions. The nitrogen was recommended by the dealer and solved the problem. If I remember correctly it was pricey. Good ol air works fine for me. Thanks, Dan -- Sent using BlackBerry -- From: richard sierra res...@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:24:35 -0500 To: The Chevelle Mailing Listchevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question I just purchased a new GMC vehicle and the dealer offered the following new package called Nitro Fill'. The claim is that nitrogen is better than compressed air in a tire. They claim that nitrogen is a dry gas and is free of moisture. It doesn't deteriorate the rubber and it is lss susceptible to air loss with temperature changes. I'd be interested to hear what the group thinks about this. Thanks Rich - 70 SS Coupe -- Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. -- Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, tc wrote: air is 78% Nitrogen Yeah but it's also 20% oxygen which (surprise) oxidizes, among other things, rubber. Nitrogen in the tires is a good idea in theory but in practice? What it is, however, is a great little revenue enhancer for the dealer. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer
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Nitrogen filling stations cost upwards of $5000. The folks who buy them need a return on investment, so they tout the benefits of nitrogen so they can sell it to you. To my knowledge, there is no research that shows any thing that makes it worth the money that the consumer spends. It's a profit center (once the machine is paid off) for the business that buys the equipment, nothing more. Racing teams use nitrogen to fill the tires so that they can have a consistent rise in temperature and pressure because of the lack of moisture in the tire. Street tires don't need it. BillL -- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of richard sierra Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:25 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question I just purchased a new GMC vehicle and the dealer offered the following new package called Nitro Fill'. The claim is that nitrogen is better than compressed air in a tire. They claim that nitrogen is a dry gas and is free of moisture. It doesn't deteriorate the rubber and it is lss susceptible to air loss with temperature changes. I'd be interested to hear what the group thinks about this. Thanks Rich - 70 SS Coupe -- Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1Try it now.
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Another question about nitrogen. Shell claims their gas keeps your engine cleaner. Having worked in a chemical plant and refinery's and knowing that nitrogen is an inert gas and doesn't burn, how then can it keep engines cleaner. Nitrogen is used to purge other gases in welding and vessels. Just wondering , can anyone answer my thoughts. Wish I was still working and could ask the engineers. Thanks Darrell In a message dated 11/8/2009 12:06:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, wolbe...@sbcglobal.net writes: Nitrogen filling stations cost upwards of $5000. The folks who buy them need a return on investment, so they tout the benefits of nitrogen so they can sell it to you. To my knowledge, there is no research that shows any thing that makes it worth the money that the consumer spends. It's a profit center (once the machine is paid off) for the business that buys the equipment, nothing more. Racing teams use nitrogen to fill the tires so that they can have a consistent rise in temperature and pressure because of the lack of moisture in the tire. Street tires don't need it. BillL From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [_ mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net_ (mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net) ] On Behalf Of richard sierra Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:25 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question I just purchased a new GMC vehicle and the dealer offered the following new package called Nitro Fill'. The claim is that nitrogen is better than compressed air in a tire. They claim that nitrogen is a dry gas and is free of moisture. It doesn't deteriorate the rubber and it is lss susceptible to air loss with temperature changes. I'd be interested to hear what the group thinks about this. Thanks Rich - 70 SS Coupe Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. _Try it now._ (http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1)
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If you want dry air in the tires, then why not dry out the air (by cooling for instance) before filling the tires. It's probably pretty dry coming out of a compressor anyway. I also can't see the advantage of putting an inert gas in the tires. You still have air on the outside of the tires. Seems like a waste of money. Tom Tomlinson '71 Malibu tinindia...@aol.com wrote: Another question about nitrogen. Shell claims their gas keeps your engine cleaner. Having worked in a chemical plant and refinery's and knowing that nitrogen is an inert gas and doesn't burn, how then can it keep engines cleaner. Nitrogen is used to purge other gases in welding and vessels. Just wondering , can anyone answer my thoughts. Wish I was still working and could ask the engineers. Thanks Darrell In a message dated 11/8/2009 12:06:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, wolbe...@sbcglobal.net writes: Nitrogen filling stations cost upwards of $5000. The folks who buy them need a return on investment, so they tout the benefits of nitrogen so they can sell it to you. To my knowledge, there is no research that shows any thing that makes it worth the money that the consumer spends. It's a profit center (once the machine is paid off) for the business that buys the equipment, nothing more. Racing teams use nitrogen to fill the tires so that they can have a consistent rise in temperature and pressure because of the lack of moisture in the tire. Street tires don't need it. BillL *From:* chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [ mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] *On Behalf Of *richard sierra *Sent:* Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:25 PM *To:* The Chevelle Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question I just purchased a new GMC vehicle and the dealer offered the following new package called Nitro Fill'. The claim is that nitrogen is better than compressed air in a tire. They claim that nitrogen is a dry gas and is free of moisture. It doesn't deteriorate the rubber and it is lss susceptible to air loss with temperature changes. I'd be interested to hear what the group thinks about this. Thanks Rich - 70 SS Coupe Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1
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Well, actually the work of the compressor pumping the air heats it up and the air actually comes out of the compressor with more moisture content. That is why at our body shop we have to have a huge 3 stage oil and water filter on the air lines before they go in the booth and oil/water traps on the lines into the air tools. The comment about Nitrogen being a inert gas is correct, it does not breakdown the rubber compounds in the tire. However it is more expensive (due to the cost of the machine), and of course you have normal air on the outside of the tire, so lowering the oxidation on the inside of the tire is only half the battle really. The tire store I deal with has a nitrogen system but they told me privately its just a upsale device really. On that Mercedes, I bet the sensors were probably calibrated for Nitrogen. Roarke '72 Malibu (in pieces at the moment) Tom Tomlinson wrote: If you want dry air in the tires, then why not dry out the air (by cooling for instance) before filling the tires. It's probably pretty dry coming out of a compressor anyway. I also can't see the advantage of putting an inert gas in the tires. You still have air on the outside of the tires. Seems like a waste of money. Tom Tomlinson '71 Malibu tinindia...@aol.com wrote: Another question about nitrogen. Shell claims their gas keeps your engine cleaner. Having worked in a chemical plant and refinery's and knowing that nitrogen is an inert gas and doesn't burn, how then can it keep engines cleaner. Nitrogen is used to purge other gases in welding and vessels. Just wondering , can anyone answer my thoughts. Wish I was still working and could ask the engineers. Thanks Darrell In a message dated 11/8/2009 12:06:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, wolbe...@sbcglobal.net writes: Nitrogen filling stations cost upwards of $5000. The folks who buy them need a return on investment, so they tout the benefits of nitrogen so they can sell it to you. To my knowledge, there is no research that shows any thing that makes it worth the money that the consumer spends. It's a profit center (once the machine is paid off) for the business that buys the equipment, nothing more. Racing teams use nitrogen to fill the tires so that they can have a consistent rise in temperature and pressure because of the lack of moisture in the tire. Street tires don't need it. BillL *From:* chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [ mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] *On Behalf Of *richard sierra *Sent:* Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:25 PM *To:* The Chevelle Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question I just purchased a new GMC vehicle and the dealer offered the following new package called Nitro Fill'. The claim is that nitrogen is better than compressed air in a tire. They claim that nitrogen is a dry gas and is free of moisture. It doesn't deteriorate the rubber and it is lss susceptible to air loss with temperature changes. I'd be interested to hear what the group thinks about this. Thanks Rich - 70 SS Coupe Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1
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It's strange that Costco will top off all tires that they sell for free. It's been three years now and I have all three cars with tires from Costco and never paid extra for the Nitrogen they inflate their tires with. Rotation and re-balance is also free. Costco sells tires for less and gives the Nitrogen free. Dealers are gouging the public. Leo - Original Message - From: tc To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question air is 78% Nitrogen To: dansolo...@msn.com ; The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question I have a 2006 Jeep and notice that periodically my tire sensors state that my air pressure is low by 5-6 lbs. Funny thing is each time its' a different tire. The GM dealer price for this is $ 69 and they tell me that a few of the local stations are charging $100 plus Rich - 70 SS coupe To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net From: dansolo...@msn.com Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:17:22 + Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question My boss has a Mercedes with tire pressure monitors. Was constantly having to make additions. The nitrogen was recommended by the dealer and solved the problem. If I remember correctly it was pricey. Good ol air works fine for me. Thanks, Dan -- Sent using BlackBerry From: richard sierra res...@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:24:35 -0500 To: The Chevelle Mailing Listchevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question I just purchased a new GMC vehicle and the dealer offered the following new package called Nitro Fill'. The claim is that nitrogen is better than compressed air in a tire. They claim that nitrogen is a dry gas and is free of moisture. It doesn't deteriorate the rubber and it is lss susceptible to air loss with temperature changes. I'd be interested to hear what the group thinks about this. Thanks Rich - 70 SS Coupe Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.
Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question
I just purchased a new GMC vehicle and the dealer offered the following new package called Nitro Fill'. The claim is that nitrogen is better than compressed air in a tire. They claim that nitrogen is a dry gas and is free of moisture. It doesn't deteriorate the rubber and it is lss susceptible to air loss with temperature changes. I'd be interested to hear what the group thinks about this. Thanks Rich - 70 SS Coupe _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1
Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question
I did some Google searching and found several sites that pretty much debunk it; of course getnitrogen.org is all for it. I like this guy's take on it - http://ahotcupofjoe.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/nitrogen-filled-tires-a-scam/ Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of richard sierra Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:25 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question I just purchased a new GMC vehicle and the dealer offered the following new package called Nitro Fill'. The claim is that nitrogen is better than compressed air in a tire. They claim that nitrogen is a dry gas and is free of moisture. It doesn't deteriorate the rubber and it is lss susceptible to air loss with temperature changes. I'd be interested to hear what the group thinks about this. Thanks Rich - 70 SS Coupe _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT _MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1
