RE: [Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2
I used teflon tape on them. Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RMilkiewicz Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2 Me too. My book, "How to rebuild your small block Chevy" says if the surface is not flat with in 0.003-inch to use a composition head gasket. Also to be sure and use a silicone sealer on the first 1/4 inch of the threads to prevent leaks. ( I do the first 1/2 inch) And to smear a small amount of sealer around all the water holes on both sides of the gasket. I have rebuilt at least 5 engines that I used this method and had no leaks. Rich - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2 > I'm still thinking water passing around head bolts through water > jackets here. > > ___ > Chevelle-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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Thanks for the part # Dave. I'll get some of that this time. Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Corgill Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2 At 08:08 AM 08/07/2003 -0700, you wrote: >I used teflon tape on them. > >Rodney. >71 Chevelle >El Mirage, AZ Better than use what GMPP uses on all their crate motors. GM Pipe Sealant with PTFE GM # 12346004. [EMAIL PROTECTED] & The Doberman gang in Dallas (Taxes) Dave's Doberman page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1877/ Doberworld home page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1878/ El-Camino/Chevelle page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1876/ My Machine Shop http://cncshop.8m.com ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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In a message dated 8/6/2003 8:59:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Meaning what? I should just try retightening them? >> I'd try puttin a sealer on the ones that pass through water jackets and retorqueing them. ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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At 08:08 AM 08/07/2003 -0700, you wrote: I used teflon tape on them. Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ Better than use what GMPP uses on all their crate motors. GM Pipe Sealant with PTFE GM # 12346004. [EMAIL PROTECTED] & The Doberman gang in Dallas (Taxes) Dave's Doberman page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1877/ Doberworld home page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1878/ El-Camino/Chevelle page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1876/ My Machine Shop http://cncshop.8m.com ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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At 08:48 AM 08/05/2003 -0700, you wrote: Okay guys... I apparently screwed up somewhere. I've been changing the oil the last couple of days to get all the brownish looking oil out after I changed the head gaskets and put everything back together. Yesterday everything was looking better. I drove across town and checked the oil. It looked clean and there was no fluid loss from the radiator. I came home last night and took it for a drive again and then parked it for the night. When I went out to change the oil this morning I had a rush of water come out, and then the oil soon after. I knew that wasn't good. How much water? Oil floats on water could be some left. You said no loss from radiator. So, I guess I screwed up somewhere. My question is this is there any way to tell if I screwed up on the head gaskets or just the intake manifold? Did you seal the water ports on the intake gasket? P.S.: If anyone wants a deal on a 71 Chevelle let me know. I'm so frustrated with all of this right now, I'm ready to sell it and buy a new car. N0-N0-No, just think how "cool" you would look in a green Toy-Yo-Yo with that 4 banger trying to smoke the front tires ;) We have all been there, just keep at it. Think how nice it would be to have to take your new car to the dealer for everything ! The light comes on that says "Take me to the dealer" & you have to. [EMAIL PROTECTED] & The Doberman gang in Dallas (Taxes) Dave's Doberman page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1877/ Doberworld home page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1878/ El-Camino/Chevelle page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1876/ My Machine Shop http://cncshop.8m.com ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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Title: Message I've heard that water in the oil can fry the main bearing pretty fast. Is this a concern? Is there anything Rodney should do before firing up the engine? Tom Tomlinson also a '71 Malibu 350 -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Rodney.Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 11:49 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2 Okay guys... I apparently screwed up somewhere. I've been changing the oil the last couple of days to get all the brownish looking oil out after I changed the head gaskets and put everything back together. Yesterday everything was looking better. I drove across town and checked the oil. It looked clean and there was no fluid loss from the radiator. I came home last night and took it for a drive again and then parked it for the night. When I went out to change the oil this morning I had a rush of water come out, and then the oil soon after. I knew that wasn't good. So, I guess I screwed up somewhere. My question is this is there any way to tell if I screwed up on the head gaskets or just the intake manifold? P.S.: If anyone wants a deal on a 71 Chevelle let me know. I'm so frustrated with all of this right now, I'm ready to sell it and buy a new car. This would be one of those deals someone was talking about the other day where you make out like a bandit on all the aftermarket stuff at my expense. It's got a new 4 core radiator, dual 12" electric fans, new crate engine (11/02) 350/375 horse, Edelbrock Q-Jet, MSD HEI, CS130 alternator, Edelbrock alum. water pump, custom interior, cragar keystone klassics, Vintage air, Global West 12" 1LE front disks, sound system... Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ
RE: [Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2
Title: Message Okay guys... I apparently screwed up somewhere. I've been changing the oil the last couple of days to get all the brownish looking oil out after I changed the head gaskets and put everything back together. Yesterday everything was looking better. I drove across town and checked the oil. It looked clean and there was no fluid loss from the radiator. I came home last night and took it for a drive again and then parked it for the night. When I went out to change the oil this morning I had a rush of water come out, and then the oil soon after. I knew that wasn't good. So, I guess I screwed up somewhere. My question is this is there any way to tell if I screwed up on the head gaskets or just the intake manifold? P.S.: If anyone wants a deal on a 71 Chevelle let me know. I'm so frustrated with all of this right now, I'm ready to sell it and buy a new car. This would be one of those deals someone was talking about the other day where you make out like a bandit on all the aftermarket stuff at my expense. It's got a new 4 core radiator, dual 12" electric fans, new crate engine (11/02) 350/375 horse, Edelbrock Q-Jet, MSD HEI, CS130 alternator, Edelbrock alum. water pump, custom interior, cragar keystone klassics, Vintage air, Global West 12" 1LE front disks, sound system... Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ
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At 12:21 PM 8/5/2003 -0500, you wrote: BL The link didn't work for me. :DianeWhoops-that danged dash got me--this ought to work www.iatn.net
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Meaning what? I should just try retightening them? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 5:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2 I'm still thinking water passing around head bolts through water jackets here. ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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I agree with Sarge. Selling the car in frustration will most likely cost you a whole lot more in the long run than getting this current problem figured out and fixed. Besides, buying a new car may just bring on a whole new set of problems.then how would you feel..more than frustrated. Gene > You may not have screwed up. It could actually be a cracked head. That > would suck, but it's not worth selling your car over. I understand your > frustration, I cracked a head before, it sucks. Luckily, I was able to see > the crack before I reassembled. You can try retorquing the bolts holding > everything together first, and see if that will fix it. If you are > EXTREMELY lucky, the bolts may have just loosened up enough to let the water > pass through. Most likely, you'll need to tear her back down, and check > your gaskets again for possible leaks. If there are no visible leaks, I'd > take the heads to a machine shop, and have them check for cracks. A head > can be cracked, and not be visible. Good luck with it. If you want to add > some competition to it, since neither of us can go out and race other cars > right now, we can race to see who fixes their car first! ;-) > > > SARGE > > 69SS/Clone > > -Original Message- > Wrom: XLYRWTQTIPWIGYOKSTTZRCLBDXRQBGJSNBOHM > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:49 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2 > > > > Okay guys... I apparently screwed up somewhere. I've been changing the oil > the last couple of days to get all the brownish looking oil out after I > changed the head gaskets and put everything back together. Yesterday > everything was looking better. I drove across town and checked the oil. It > looked clean and there was no fluid loss from the radiator. I came home > last night and took it for a drive again and then parked it for the night. > When I went out to change the oil this morning I had a rush of water come > out, and then the oil soon after. I knew that wasn't good. > > So, I guess I screwed up somewhere. My question is this is there any > way to tell if I screwed up on the head gaskets or just the intake manifold? > > > P.S.: If anyone wants a deal on a 71 Chevelle let me know. I'm so > frustrated with all of this right now, I'm ready to sell it and buy a new > car. This would be one of those deals someone was talking about the other > day where you make out like a bandit on all the aftermarket stuff at my > expense. It's got a new 4 core radiator, dual 12" electric fans, new crate > engine (11/02) 350/375 horse, Edelbrock Q-Jet, MSD HEI, CS130 alternator, > Edelbrock alum. water pump, custom interior, cragar keystone klassics, > Vintage air, Global West 12" 1LE front disks, sound system... > > > Rodney. > 71 Chevelle > El Mirage, AZ > > ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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Title: Message
Drain
the oil, pour mineral spirits through it, and drain the spirits, give it
time to dry, then refill with fresh oil. Run for 15 minutes, and change
the oil. This is just what I did to evaporate the water that was in my
engine. I also had the engine half torn apart at the time, but it did
remove all the water from the nooks and cranny's.
SARGE
69SS/Clone-Original Message-From: Tom Tomlinson
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 3:33
PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE:
[Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2
I've
heard that water in the oil can fry the main bearing pretty fast. Is
this a concern? Is there anything Rodney should do before firing up the
engine?
Tom
Tomlinson
also
a '71 Malibu 350
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of
Rodney.Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 11:49 AMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Blown
Head Gasket PART 2
Okay guys... I apparently screwed up somewhere.
I've been changing the oil the last couple of days to get all the brownish
looking oil out after I changed the head gaskets and put everything back
together. Yesterday everything was looking better. I drove
across town and checked the oil. It looked clean and there was no
fluid loss from the radiator. I came home last night and took it for a
drive again and then parked it for the night. When I went out to
change the oil this morning I had a rush of water come out, and then the oil
soon after. I knew that wasn't good.
So, I guess I screwed up somewhere. My question
is this is there any way to tell if I screwed up on the head gaskets or
just the intake manifold?
P.S.: If anyone wants a deal on a 71 Chevelle let me
know. I'm so frustrated with all of this right now, I'm ready to sell
it and buy a new car. This would be one of those deals someone
was talking about the other day where you make out like a bandit on all the
aftermarket stuff at my expense. It's got a new 4 core radiator, dual
12" electric fans, new crate engine (11/02) 350/375
horse, Edelbrock Q-Jet, MSD HEI, CS130 alternator, Edelbrock alum.
water pump, custom interior, cragar keystone klassics, Vintage air, Global
West 12" 1LE front disks, sound system...
Rodney.
71 Chevelle
El Mirage, AZ
Re: [Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2
I'm still thinking water passing around head bolts through water jackets here. ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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Title: Message Thanks to everyone for the encouragement. I'm going to take it apart again starting tomorrow. I'm going to take the heads to a machine shop this time and have them check them out. I'll let you know how it goes. Have you started on yours yet Sarge? :) Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fruhauf Kerry A SSgt 3CS/SCBSSent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:00 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2 You may not have screwed up. It could actually be a cracked head. That would suck, but it's not worth selling your car over. I understand your frustration, I cracked a head before, it sucks. Luckily, I was able to see the crack before I reassembled. You can try retorquing the bolts holding everything together first, and see if that will fix it. If you are EXTREMELY lucky, the bolts may have just loosened up enough to let the water pass through. Most likely, you'll need to tear her back down, and check your gaskets again for possible leaks. If there are no visible leaks, I'd take the heads to a machine shop, and have them check for cracks. A head can be cracked, and not be visible. Good luck with it. If you want to add some competition to it, since neither of us can go out and race other cars right now, we can race to see who fixes their car first! ;-) SARGE 69SS/Clone-Original Message-From: Rodney. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:49 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2 Okay guys... I apparently screwed up somewhere. I've been changing the oil the last couple of days to get all the brownish looking oil out after I changed the head gaskets and put everything back together. Yesterday everything was looking better. I drove across town and checked the oil. It looked clean and there was no fluid loss from the radiator. I came home last night and took it for a drive again and then parked it for the night. When I went out to change the oil this morning I had a rush of water come out, and then the oil soon after. I knew that wasn't good. So, I guess I screwed up somewhere. My question is this is there any way to tell if I screwed up on the head gaskets or just the intake manifold? P.S.: If anyone wants a deal on a 71 Chevelle let me know. I'm so frustrated with all of this right now, I'm ready to sell it and buy a new car. This would be one of those deals someone was talking about the other day where you make out like a bandit on all the aftermarket stuff at my expense. It's got a new 4 core radiator, dual 12" electric fans, new crate engine (11/02) 350/375 horse, Edelbrock Q-Jet, MSD HEI, CS130 alternator, Edelbrock alum. water pump, custom interior, cragar keystone klassics, Vintage air, Global West 12" 1LE front disks, sound system... Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ
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At 09:01 AM 08/07/2003 -0700, you wrote: Thanks for the part # Dave. I'll get some of that this time. Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ It is good stuff, I know because I always take apart my new crate motors, as I did with my HT383 crate motor in march this yr. It was not easy to get if off head bolts with a big wire brush on a 1/3 HP bench grinder. Sallee Chevy told me they even use it on blind threaded holes in alum. It does have a 1 # 12346004 , Its in a blue/black tube says GM VehicleCare 1.69 FL. OZ. This stuff is great I will never use teflon tape on any plumbing from air lines in my shop to plumbing in my house again. ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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If you are taking things apart, you might want to check out the bearings. This gets into the full engine building arena, but if you had water circulating for long you might have worn through a bearing or five. Did you check out the oil or filter for metal? Did you drop the pan? When my 327 in the Corvette blew, I ended up with a lot of water in the pan as well. For some reason I never took great pictures of the pan and all the crap that was in there (just one picture), but it was obvious the bearings were toast from the material in the pan. I may have run longer than you after the water got into the pan, so your damage might be minimal. Remember, oil floats on the water, and the oil pump may be registering pressure while actually pumping water through the engine. I'm sure that this is what happened with my engine, since I thought it was an overheating problem at first. My first symptom was steam, followed by a funny noise. I was at the track and pulled into the pits (luckily I was a hundred yards from the pit entrance) when I noticed the steam. When I pulled in, I also noticed that the engine was running a bit rough and making a noise I could not identify. Neither could the other experienced racers there. I topped off the radiator and tried to drive home since I figured the engine was toast anyhow (already a 0.040 overbore). I watched my oil pressure and made sure it was OK, and I drove 55 MPH on the highway. I made it a few miles before the big bang and catastrophic failure... Hopefully the water was sucked into the crankcase as the engine cooled down and you never ran on "water lubrication". But in case you did, you might want to check out the main bearings, and maybe even the rods (since that is where mine failed). It was one crank throw that is really worn, and mostly for one cylinder. The rest are almost all in great shape, including the mains. Post Mortem Autopsy pictures here: http://ep.com/brad/Corvette/blown327/ Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rodney. > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:48 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2 > > > A LOT of water... Half of the radiator was empty. I said no > loss from > the radiator when I drove across town and checked. However, after it > was parked all night and I came out in the morning, half the radiator > was empty. > > Yes, I sealed the water ports on the intake gasket. > > Rodney. > 71 Chevelle > El Mirage, AZ > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Corgill > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:18 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2 > > > At 08:48 AM 08/05/2003 -0700, you wrote: > >Okay guys... I apparently screwed up somewhere. I've been > changing the > >oil the last couple of days to get all the brownish looking oil out > after > >I changed the head gaskets and put everything back together. > Yesterday > > >everything was looking better. I drove across town and checked the > >oil. It looked clean and there was no fluid loss from the > radiator. I > > >came home last night and took it for a drive again and then parked it > for > >the night. When I went out to change the oil this morning I > had a rush > of > >water come out, and then the oil soon after. I knew that > wasn't good. > > How much water? Oil floats on water could be some left. You > said no loss > from radiator. > > > > >So, I guess I screwed up somewhere. My question is this > is there > >any > >way to tell if I screwed up on the head gaskets or just the intake > manifold? ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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Me too. My book, "How to rebuild your small block Chevy" says if the surface is not flat with in 0.003-inch to use a composition head gasket. Also to be sure and use a silicone sealer on the first 1/4 inch of the threads to prevent leaks. ( I do the first 1/2 inch) And to smear a small amount of sealer around all the water holes on both sides of the gasket. I have rebuilt at least 5 engines that I used this method and had no leaks. Rich - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2 > I'm still thinking water passing around head bolts through water jackets > here. > > ___ > Chevelle-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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A LOT of water... Half of the radiator was empty. I said no loss from the radiator when I drove across town and checked. However, after it was parked all night and I came out in the morning, half the radiator was empty. Yes, I sealed the water ports on the intake gasket. Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Corgill Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2 At 08:48 AM 08/05/2003 -0700, you wrote: >Okay guys... I apparently screwed up somewhere. I've been changing the >oil the last couple of days to get all the brownish looking oil out after >I changed the head gaskets and put everything back together. Yesterday >everything was looking better. I drove across town and checked the >oil. It looked clean and there was no fluid loss from the radiator. I >came home last night and took it for a drive again and then parked it for >the night. When I went out to change the oil this morning I had a rush of >water come out, and then the oil soon after. I knew that wasn't good. How much water? Oil floats on water could be some left. You said no loss from radiator. > >So, I guess I screwed up somewhere. My question is this is there >any >way to tell if I screwed up on the head gaskets or just the intake manifold? Did you seal the water ports on the intake gasket? > >P.S.: If anyone wants a deal on a 71 Chevelle let me know. I'm so >frustrated with all of this right now, I'm ready to sell it and buy a new car. N0-N0-No, just think how "cool" you would look in a green Toy-Yo-Yo with that 4 banger trying to smoke the front tires ;) We have all been there, just keep at it. Think how nice it would be to have to take your new car to the dealer for everything ! The light comes on that says "Take me to the dealer" & you have to. [EMAIL PROTECTED] & The Doberman gang in Dallas (Taxes) Dave's Doberman page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1877/ Doberworld home page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1878/ El-Camino/Chevelle page http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1876/ My Machine Shop http://cncshop.8m.com ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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Title: Message Thanks, I'll look into this. Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill LessenberrySent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:16 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2 So, I guess I screwed up somewhere. My question is this is there any way to tell if I screwed up on the head gaskets or just the intake manifold? You can use a deal called a Combustion Block Tester that you can buy at NAPA, or PBoys or other parts stores. It consists of a vial that you put the tester fluid in that has a little pump at the top. Open the radiator cap, warm up the car until the thermostat opens, then install the block tester & pump. If the fluid turns yellow, then you've blown a head gasket, or the head is cracked. Instructions come with the kit that are more clear. You can also buy a pressure tester, pressurize the cooling system, pull the plugs, and see if water squirts out the cylinders. Pressure testing will also check for a cracked cylinder if you drain the oil & leave the drain plug out, pressurize the system, and see if water comes out of the drain hole.If you want a pro to look at it, check out www.i-atn.net and look under their shop finder. Most of the iatn guys are top-notch.Hope this helps.BL
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Title: Message What sucks is I just got this engine in 11/02. I don't want an excuse to buy new heads... these aren't even paid for yet! Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Diane PeppinSent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:03 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2 Rodney; Good luck figuring it out, maybe this is a good time to get dart heads? Look on the bright side, and whatever you do don't get rid of your ride. You take good care of it, and it will take care of you...shy of not fishtailing, these light assed bit"*hes love to slide. I remember in 85 when I was turning left onto a hill on ramp in the rain. I started sliding right away.. to the right, I stepped on the pedal and tried to straighten it up...then it went the other way and finally the third fish tail spun me around completely, and I sat facing the way I came, sitting perfect on the shoulder of the road. It was dark and visibility was 50ft. In the dark as I sat looking ahead..down the ramp on the other side of the road...I saw the cherries on the town cruiser light up, and spin to let me know he was coming. When he gave me the ticket he told me..I saw you start fishtailing and saw you try to punch it and bring it her around, and I said to myself "if she gets out of this third one I'll let her go... :-Diane
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Don't some of the headbolts run through water jackets on a small block? ___ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
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BL The link didn't work for me. :Diane
RE: [Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2
Title: Message You may not have screwed up. It could actually be a cracked head. That would suck, but it's not worth selling your car over. I understand your frustration, I cracked a head before, it sucks. Luckily, I was able to see the crack before I reassembled. You can try retorquing the bolts holding everything together first, and see if that will fix it. If you are EXTREMELY lucky, the bolts may have just loosened up enough to let the water pass through. Most likely, you'll need to tear her back down, and check your gaskets again for possible leaks. If there are no visible leaks, I'd take the heads to a machine shop, and have them check for cracks. A head can be cracked, and not be visible. Good luck with it. If you want to add some competition to it, since neither of us can go out and race other cars right now, we can race to see who fixes their car first! ;-) SARGE 69SS/Clone-Original Message-From: Rodney. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:49 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2 Okay guys... I apparently screwed up somewhere. I've been changing the oil the last couple of days to get all the brownish looking oil out after I changed the head gaskets and put everything back together. Yesterday everything was looking better. I drove across town and checked the oil. It looked clean and there was no fluid loss from the radiator. I came home last night and took it for a drive again and then parked it for the night. When I went out to change the oil this morning I had a rush of water come out, and then the oil soon after. I knew that wasn't good. So, I guess I screwed up somewhere. My question is this is there any way to tell if I screwed up on the head gaskets or just the intake manifold? P.S.: If anyone wants a deal on a 71 Chevelle let me know. I'm so frustrated with all of this right now, I'm ready to sell it and buy a new car. This would be one of those deals someone was talking about the other day where you make out like a bandit on all the aftermarket stuff at my expense. It's got a new 4 core radiator, dual 12" electric fans, new crate engine (11/02) 350/375 horse, Edelbrock Q-Jet, MSD HEI, CS130 alternator, Edelbrock alum. water pump, custom interior, cragar keystone klassics, Vintage air, Global West 12" 1LE front disks, sound system... Rodney. 71 Chevelle El Mirage, AZ
RE: [Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2
So, I guess I screwed up somewhere. My question is this is there any way to tell if I screwed up on the head gaskets or just the intake manifold? You can use a deal called a Combustion Block Tester that you can buy at NAPA, or PBoys or other parts stores. It consists of a vial that you put the tester fluid in that has a little pump at the top. Open the radiator cap, warm up the car until the thermostat opens, then install the block tester & pump. If the fluid turns yellow, then you've blown a head gasket, or the head is cracked. Instructions come with the kit that are more clear. You can also buy a pressure tester, pressurize the cooling system, pull the plugs, and see if water squirts out the cylinders. Pressure testing will also check for a cracked cylinder if you drain the oil & leave the drain plug out, pressurize the system, and see if water comes out of the drain hole. If you want a pro to look at it, check out www.i-atn.net and look under their shop finder. Most of the iatn guys are top-notch. Hope this helps. BL
[Chevelle-list] Blown Head Gasket PART 2
Rodney; Good luck figuring it out, maybe this is a good time to get dart heads? Look on the bright side, and whatever you do don't get rid of your ride. You take good care of it, and it will take care of you...shy of not fishtailing, these light assed bit"*hes love to slide. I remember in 85 when I was turning left onto a hill on ramp in the rain. I started sliding right away.. to the right, I stepped on the pedal and tried to straighten it up...then it went the other way and finally the third fish tail spun me around completely, and I sat facing the way I came, sitting perfect on the shoulder of the road. It was dark and visibility was 50ft. In the dark as I sat looking ahead..down the ramp on the other side of the road...I saw the cherries on the town cruiser light up, and spin to let me know he was coming. When he gave me the ticket he told me..I saw you start fishtailing and saw you try to punch it and bring it her around, and I said to myself "if she gets out of this third one I'll let her go... :-Diane
