Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
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Thanks!
Larry Shouse
- Original Message -
From:
Mike
Holleman
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 6:17
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount
Question
Larry. They shipped today. You should have them
monday. This is a question I would like to have answered as well.
Mike
- Original Message -
From:
Larry Shouse
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:53
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine
Mount Question
Brad,
I just picked up a BB set of frame mounts from
Mike here on the list. When they get here, I will do a complete photo study
with both BB and SB chassis mounts and engine mounts coupled and separately.
Of course I'm not trying to step on David's toes here, but I need to really
compare everything anyway, so I might as well document it and permanently
post pictures for future reference for everyone.
Thanks to everybody who chimed in on this
one.
Larry Shouse
- Original Message -
From:
Brad Waller
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:38
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine
Mount Question
Great shots of the height! I wonder if the
difference is in the effective location of the mounting holes once both
are bolted to the frame. Do you still have both mounts
available? If so, can you line them up with a long bolt going
through both to get them in the same position, and then see if the holes
for the engine mount bolt are in the same location. I wonder if the
big block mount as bolted into place would put the engine mounts in a
lower position? Does any of this make sense?
Brad
From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The
HanksSent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 5:57 PMTo:
Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: [Chevelle-list] Engine
Mount Question
Ok guys, here are some pics of both SB
and BB engine frame mounts. These came off of two 1966 Chevelles one a
SB the other a BB.. So as far as I know they are the correct ones..
The one on the right is the BB. I did not see any
difference in the height between the two. As you see the
difference is in the structure of the two. Hope this
helps This is the
link to the pics http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=0AYuGTdq4ZsWLmI
David
David Hanks
1966 SS396
1974 Corvette
ACES 6782
Team Chevelle
1940 Pilot
Point, TX
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint
HooperSent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:45 PMTo:
The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list]
Engine Mount Question
I think 1968 was the year of the
recall,Dale.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino
ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From:
Dale
Not sure
I understand the question, but neither of those engines were
available in the 66 Chevelle.
On a side
note, anyone have a pair of small block and big block mounts for
66/67 that can lay them flat on the floor and measure the two
heights?
I know
there was a recall on all Chevrolet mounts in the 60s I believe due
to the drivers side engine mount (rubber one that bolts to the
block itself) tending to break and possibly causing the throttle to
stick open. First solution was a cable unit applied to the
drivers side engine mount. Later the engine mounts were
designed with a locking tab to stop the engine from coming off the
mount if it broke. My Chevrolet parts book (circa 1971) also
has the locking mounts as dealer replacements and to use the big
block frame mounts when doing so. This could be why a lot of
small block Chevelles have big block frame and engine
mounts.
Dale
McIntosh
67 El
Camino
1967
Chevelle Reference CD http://www.chevellecd.com ACES
#1709/TC Gold #92
No viru
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
Title: Message
Thanks David.
I got the parts today too.
Larry Shouse
- Original Message -
From:
The Hanks
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 8:45
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount
Question
Ok
guys, I set my photo shop up and took these pics, I am glad that I have a day
job and do not make a living as a photographer. I have a hard time just
turning a camera on.. Don't worry about my toes, after 27 years as
a policeman, my wife says I don't have any feelings
Please look these over. I think I measured them everyway I could
think of. The two mounts I used were from two 66's; The BB is on the
right side as you look at them, Hope this helps and at least starts the
clarification process of Big vs Small which I've heard is over rated..
The
link
http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=0AYuGTdq4ZsWLow¬ag=1
David
David Hanks
1966 SS396
1974 Corvette
ACES 6782 Team Chevelle 1940 Pilot Point, TX
-Original Message-From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
HollemanSent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 5:17 PMTo: The
Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount
Question
Larry. They shipped today. You should have them
monday. This is a question I would like to have answered as
well.
Mike
- Original Message -
From:
Larry Shouse
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:53
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine
Mount Question
Brad,
I just picked up a BB set of frame mounts
from Mike here on the list. When they get here, I will do a complete photo
study with both BB and SB chassis mounts and engine mounts coupled and
separately. Of course I'm not trying to step on David's toes here, but I
need to really compare everything anyway, so I might as well document it
and permanently post pictures for future reference for
everyone.
Thanks to everybody who chimed in on this
one.
Larry Shouse
- Original Message -
From:
Brad Waller
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing
List'
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006
12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine
Mount Question
Great shots of the height! I wonder if
the difference is in the effective location of the mounting holes once
both are bolted to the frame. Do you still have both mounts
available? If so, can you line them up with a long bolt going
through both to get them in the same position, and then see if the holes
for the engine mount bolt are in the same location. I wonder if
the big block mount as bolted into place would put the engine mounts in
a lower position? Does any of this make sense?
Brad
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
Title: Message
Ok
guys, I set my photo shop up and took these pics, I am glad that I have a day
job and do not make a living as a photographer. I have a hard time just
turning a camera on.. Don't worry about my toes, after 27 years as
a policeman, my wife says I don't have any feelings
Please look these over. I think I measured them everyway I could
think of. The two mounts I used were from two 66's; The BB is on the right
side as you look at them, Hope this helps and at least starts the clarification
process of Big vs Small which I've heard is over rated..
The
link
http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=0AYuGTdq4ZsWLow¬ag=1
David
David Hanks 1966 SS396 1974 Corvette ACES 6782 Team Chevelle 1940 Pilot Point, TX
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
HollemanSent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 5:17 PMTo: The
Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount
Question
Larry. They shipped today. You should have them
monday. This is a question I would like to have answered as well.
Mike
- Original Message -
From:
Larry Shouse
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:53
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine
Mount Question
Brad,
I just picked up a BB set of frame mounts from
Mike here on the list. When they get here, I will do a complete photo study
with both BB and SB chassis mounts and engine mounts coupled and separately.
Of course I'm not trying to step on David's toes here, but I need to really
compare everything anyway, so I might as well document it and permanently
post pictures for future reference for everyone.
Thanks to everybody who chimed in on this
one.
Larry Shouse
- Original Message -
From:
Brad Waller
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:38
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine
Mount Question
Great shots of the height! I wonder if the
difference is in the effective location of the mounting holes once both
are bolted to the frame. Do you still have both mounts
available? If so, can you line them up with a long bolt going
through both to get them in the same position, and then see if the holes
for the engine mount bolt are in the same location. I wonder if the
big block mount as bolted into place would put the engine mounts in a
lower position? Does any of this make sense?
Brad
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
Title: Message
Larry. They shipped today. You should have them
monday. This is a question I would like to have answered as well.
Mike
- Original Message -
From:
Larry Shouse
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:53
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount
Question
Brad,
I just picked up a BB set of frame mounts from
Mike here on the list. When they get here, I will do a complete photo study
with both BB and SB chassis mounts and engine mounts coupled and separately.
Of course I'm not trying to step on David's toes here, but I need to really
compare everything anyway, so I might as well document it and permanently post
pictures for future reference for everyone.
Thanks to everybody who chimed in on this
one.
Larry Shouse
- Original Message -
From:
Brad Waller
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:38
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine
Mount Question
Great shots of the height! I wonder if the
difference is in the effective location of the mounting holes once both are
bolted to the frame. Do you still have both mounts available? If
so, can you line them up with a long bolt going through both to get them in
the same position, and then see if the holes for the engine mount bolt are
in the same location. I wonder if the big block mount as bolted into
place would put the engine mounts in a lower position? Does any of
this make sense?
Brad
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The
HanksSent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 5:57 PMTo:
Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: [Chevelle-list] Engine
Mount Question
Ok guys, here are some pics of both SB and
BB engine frame mounts. These came off of two 1966 Chevelles one a SB the
other a BB.. So as far as I know they are the correct ones.. The
one on the right is the BB. I did not see any difference in the
height between the two. As you see the difference is in the
structure of the two. Hope this helps This is the link to the pics http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=0AYuGTdq4ZsWLmI
David
David Hanks
1966 SS396
1974 Corvette
ACES 6782
Team Chevelle
1940 Pilot
Point, TX
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint
HooperSent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:45 PMTo:
The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine
Mount Question
I think 1968 was the year of the
recall,Dale.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino
ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From:
Dale
Not sure I
understand the question, but neither of those engines were available
in the 66 Chevelle.
On a side
note, anyone have a pair of small block and big block mounts for 66/67
that can lay them flat on the floor and measure the two
heights?
I know
there was a recall on all Chevrolet mounts in the 60s I believe due to
the drivers side engine mount (rubber one that bolts to the block
itself) tending to break and possibly causing the throttle to stick
open. First solution was a cable unit applied to the drivers
side engine mount. Later the engine mounts were designed with a
locking tab to stop the engine from coming off the mount if it
broke. My Chevrolet parts book (circa 1971) also has the locking
mounts as dealer replacements and to use the big block frame mounts
when doing so. This could be why a lot of small block Chevelles
have big block frame and engine mounts.
Dale
McIntosh
67 El
Camino 1967
Chevelle Reference CD http://www.chevellecd.com ACES
#1709/TC Gold #92
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Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
One thing ive seen about the engine mount, big block vs. small block the width is different where it mates on the the frame mount, just something to keep in mind to. Eddie Bumgarner 66ss conv.Brad Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Great shots of the height! I wonder if the difference is in the effective location of the mounting holes once both are bolted to the frame. Do you still have both mounts available? If so, can you line them up with a long bolt going through both to get them in the same position, and then see if the holes for the engine mount bolt are in the same location. I wonder if the big block mount as bolted into place would put the engine mounts in a lower position? Does any of this make sense? BradFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The HanksSent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 5:57 PMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question Ok guys, here are some pics of both SB and BB engine frame mounts. These came off of two 1966 Chevelles one a SB the other a BB.. So as far as I know they are the correct ones.. The one on the right is the BB. I did not see any difference in the height between the two. As you see the difference is in the structure of the two. Hope this helps This is the link to the pics http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=0AYuGTdq4ZsWLmI David David Hanks 1966 SS396 1974 Corvette ACES 6782 Team Chevelle 1940 Pilot Point, TX -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint HooperSent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:45 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question I think 1968 was the year of the recall,Dale. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm- Original Message - From: Dale Not sure I understand the question, but neither of those engines were available in the 66 Chevelle. On a side note, anyone have a pair of small block and big block mounts for 66/67 that can lay them flat on the floor and measure the two heights? I know there was a recall on all Chevrolet mounts in the 60s I believe due to the drivers side engine mount (rubber one that bolts to the block itself) tending to break and possibly causing the throttle to stick open. First solution was a cable unit applied to the drivers side engine mount. Later the engine mounts were designed with a locking tab to stop the engine from coming off the mount if it broke. My Chevrolet parts book (circa 1971) also has the locking mounts as dealer replacements and to use the big block frame mounts when doing so. This could be why a lot of small block Chevelles have big block frame and engine mounts.Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD http://www.chevellecd.com ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
Title: Message Maybe it’s the way they are laid out and the background clutter (sorry ) but the small block unit on the left ‘appears’ to be taller in the MVC-001S photo. ??? Any chance of putting them both on a clean, flat surface and getting a shot? Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD http://www.chevellecd.com ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Hanks Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:57 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question Ok guys, here are some pics of both SB and BB engine frame mounts. These came off of two 1966 Chevelles one a SB the other a BB.. So as far as I know they are the correct ones.. The one on the right is the BB. I did not see any difference in the height between the two. As you see the difference is in the structure of the two. Hope this helps This is the link to the pics http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=0AYuGTdq4ZsWLmI David David Hanks 1966 SS396 1974 Corvette ACES 6782 Team Chevelle 1940 Pilot Point, TX -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:45 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question I think 1968 was the year of the recall,Dale. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dale Not sure I understand the question, but neither of those engines were available in the 66 Chevelle. On a side note, anyone have a pair of small block and big block mounts for 66/67 that can lay them flat on the floor and measure the two heights? I know there was a recall on all Chevrolet mounts in the 60s I believe due to the driver’s side engine mount (rubber one that bolts to the block itself) tending to break and possibly causing the throttle to stick open. First solution was a cable unit applied to the driver’s side engine mount. Later the engine mounts were designed with a locking tab to stop the engine from coming off the mount if it broke. My Chevrolet parts book (circa 1971) also has the locking mounts as dealer replacements and to use the big block frame mounts when doing so. This could be why a lot of small block Chevelles have big block frame and engine mounts. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD http://www.chevellecd.com ACES #1709/TC Gold #92
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
Title: Message Brad, I just picked up a BB set of frame mounts from Mike here on the list. When they get here, I will do a complete photo study with both BB and SB chassis mounts and engine mounts coupled and separately. Of course I'm not trying to step on David's toes here, but I need to really compare everything anyway, so I might as well document it and permanently post pictures for future reference for everyone. Thanks to everybody who chimed in on this one. Larry Shouse - Original Message - From: Brad Waller To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question Great shots of the height! I wonder if the difference is in the effective location of the mounting holes once both are bolted to the frame. Do you still have both mounts available? If so, can you line them up with a long bolt going through both to get them in the same position, and then see if the holes for the engine mount bolt are in the same location. I wonder if the big block mount as bolted into place would put the engine mounts in a lower position? Does any of this make sense? Brad From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The HanksSent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 5:57 PMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question Ok guys, here are some pics of both SB and BB engine frame mounts. These came off of two 1966 Chevelles one a SB the other a BB.. So as far as I know they are the correct ones.. The one on the right is the BB. I did not see any difference in the height between the two. As you see the difference is in the structure of the two. Hope this helps This is the link to the pics http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=0AYuGTdq4ZsWLmI David David Hanks 1966 SS396 1974 Corvette ACES 6782 Team Chevelle 1940 Pilot Point, TX -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint HooperSent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:45 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question I think 1968 was the year of the recall,Dale. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dale Not sure I understand the question, but neither of those engines were available in the 66 Chevelle. On a side note, anyone have a pair of small block and big block mounts for 66/67 that can lay them flat on the floor and measure the two heights? I know there was a recall on all Chevrolet mounts in the 60s I believe due to the drivers side engine mount (rubber one that bolts to the block itself) tending to break and possibly causing the throttle to stick open. First solution was a cable unit applied to the drivers side engine mount. Later the engine mounts were designed with a locking tab to stop the engine from coming off the mount if it broke. My Chevrolet parts book (circa 1971) also has the locking mounts as dealer replacements and to use the big block frame mounts when doing so. This could be why a lot of small block Chevelles have big block frame and engine mounts. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD http://www.chevellecd.com ACES #1709/TC Gold #92
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
Title: Message Great shots of the height! I wonder if the difference is in the effective location of the mounting holes once both are bolted to the frame. Do you still have both mounts available? If so, can you line them up with a long bolt going through both to get them in the same position, and then see if the holes for the engine mount bolt are in the same location. I wonder if the big block mount as bolted into place would put the engine mounts in a lower position? Does any of this make sense? Brad From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The HanksSent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 5:57 PMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question Ok guys, here are some pics of both SB and BB engine frame mounts. These came off of two 1966 Chevelles one a SB the other a BB.. So as far as I know they are the correct ones.. The one on the right is the BB. I did not see any difference in the height between the two. As you see the difference is in the structure of the two. Hope this helps This is the link to the pics http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=0AYuGTdq4ZsWLmI David David Hanks 1966 SS396 1974 Corvette ACES 6782 Team Chevelle 1940 Pilot Point, TX -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint HooperSent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:45 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question I think 1968 was the year of the recall,Dale. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dale Not sure I understand the question, but neither of those engines were available in the 66 Chevelle. On a side note, anyone have a pair of small block and big block mounts for 66/67 that can lay them flat on the floor and measure the two heights? I know there was a recall on all Chevrolet mounts in the 60s I believe due to the driver’s side engine mount (rubber one that bolts to the block itself) tending to break and possibly causing the throttle to stick open. First solution was a cable unit applied to the driver’s side engine mount. Later the engine mounts were designed with a locking tab to stop the engine from coming off the mount if it broke. My Chevrolet parts book (circa 1971) also has the locking mounts as dealer replacements and to use the big block frame mounts when doing so. This could be why a lot of small block Chevelles have big block frame and engine mounts. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD http://www.chevellecd.com ACES #1709/TC Gold #92
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Title: Message Thanks David. - Original Message - From: The Hanks To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 8:56 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question Ok guys, here are some pics of both SB and BB engine frame mounts. These came off of two 1966 Chevelles one a SB the other a BB.. So as far as I know they are the correct ones.. The one on the right is the BB. I did not see any difference in the height between the two. As you see the difference is in the structure of the two. Hope this helps This is the link to the pics http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=0AYuGTdq4ZsWLmI David David Hanks 1966 SS396 1974 Corvette ACES 6782 Team Chevelle 1940 Pilot Point, TX -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint HooperSent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:45 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question I think 1968 was the year of the recall,Dale. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dale Not sure I understand the question, but neither of those engines were available in the 66 Chevelle. On a side note, anyone have a pair of small block and big block mounts for 66/67 that can lay them flat on the floor and measure the two heights? I know there was a recall on all Chevrolet mounts in the 60s I believe due to the drivers side engine mount (rubber one that bolts to the block itself) tending to break and possibly causing the throttle to stick open. First solution was a cable unit applied to the drivers side engine mount. Later the engine mounts were designed with a locking tab to stop the engine from coming off the mount if it broke. My Chevrolet parts book (circa 1971) also has the locking mounts as dealer replacements and to use the big block frame mounts when doing so. This could be why a lot of small block Chevelles have big block frame and engine mounts. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD http://www.chevellecd.com ACES #1709/TC Gold #92
[Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
Title: Message Ok guys, here are some pics of both SB and BB engine frame mounts. These came off of two 1966 Chevelles one a SB the other a BB.. So as far as I know they are the correct ones.. The one on the right is the BB. I did not see any difference in the height between the two. As you see the difference is in the structure of the two. Hope this helps This is the link to the pics http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=0AYuGTdq4ZsWLmI David David Hanks 1966 SS396 1974 Corvette ACES 6782 Team Chevelle 1940 Pilot Point, TX -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint HooperSent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:45 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question I think 1968 was the year of the recall,Dale. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dale Not sure I understand the question, but neither of those engines were available in the 66 Chevelle. On a side note, anyone have a pair of small block and big block mounts for 66/67 that can lay them flat on the floor and measure the two heights? I know there was a recall on all Chevrolet mounts in the 60s I believe due to the driver’s side engine mount (rubber one that bolts to the block itself) tending to break and possibly causing the throttle to stick open. First solution was a cable unit applied to the driver’s side engine mount. Later the engine mounts were designed with a locking tab to stop the engine from coming off the mount if it broke. My Chevrolet parts book (circa 1971) also has the locking mounts as dealer replacements and to use the big block frame mounts when doing so. This could be why a lot of small block Chevelles have big block frame and engine mounts. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD http://www.chevellecd.com ACES #1709/TC Gold #92
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Dan, Thank You. I'm getting a "page cannot be displayed" error on your link right now, but I will keep trying. Larry - Original Message - From: "Daniel Solomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question Larry, I have a really great article I copied from a Car Craft magazine that discusses this problem, solutions and give the GM part numbers for the correct mounts. I attached it to my web site in the downloads section. It is 1.2MB so you may need to right mouse click the link and select save as. Hope it helps. Dan Solomon http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
Larry, I have a really great article I copied from a Car Craft magazine that discusses this problem, solutions and give the GM part numbers for the correct mounts. I attached it to my web site in the downloads section. It is 1.2MB so you may need to right mouse click the link and select save as. Hope it helps. Dan Solomon http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
Thanks, Clint. Couldn’t remember just when it was but it was a pretty big stink for Chevrolet. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD http://www.chevellecd.com ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:45 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question I think 1968 was the year of the recall,Dale. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
I think 1968 was the year of the recall,Dale. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dale Not sure I understand the question, but neither of those engines were available in the 66 Chevelle. On a side note, anyone have a pair of small block and big block mounts for 66/67 that can lay them flat on the floor and measure the two heights? I know there was a recall on all Chevrolet mounts in the 60s I believe due to the drivers side engine mount (rubber one that bolts to the block itself) tending to break and possibly causing the throttle to stick open. First solution was a cable unit applied to the drivers side engine mount. Later the engine mounts were designed with a locking tab to stop the engine from coming off the mount if it broke. My Chevrolet parts book (circa 1971) also has the locking mounts as dealer replacements and to use the big block frame mounts when doing so. This could be why a lot of small block Chevelles have big block frame and engine mounts. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD http://www.chevellecd.com ACES #1709/TC Gold #92
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
Not sure I understand the question, but neither of those engines were available in the 66 Chevelle. On a side note, anyone have a pair of small block and big block mounts for 66/67 that can lay them flat on the floor and measure the two heights? I know there was a recall on all Chevrolet mounts in the 60s I believe due to the driver’s side engine mount (rubber one that bolts to the block itself) tending to break and possibly causing the throttle to stick open. First solution was a cable unit applied to the driver’s side engine mount. Later the engine mounts were designed with a locking tab to stop the engine from coming off the mount if it broke. My Chevrolet parts book (circa 1971) also has the locking mounts as dealer replacements and to use the big block frame mounts when doing so. This could be why a lot of small block Chevelles have big block frame and engine mounts. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Reference CD http://www.chevellecd.com ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mumper, Douglas Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:16 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question Are the motor mounts for a 1966 Chevelle with a 307 Chevy SB the same as a 400 Chevy SB? Doug From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:24 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question 327 & 350 mounts are the same. 307 mounts are different. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: RJ Winkler You got it. The big block mounts are just that much taller. The 327 has a special pair of frame mounts while the 350 and up use the same ones, pretty sure that’s how it works out. -RJ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Shouse When I installed my big block, I had to buy a set up upper engine mounts. I bought a big block set, then discovered that the ones I got did not couple correctly with the chassis mounts. The upper mounts were too big. I tool one of the chassis mounts off and took it to a local parts store. We discovered the engine mounts that fit my chassis mount was identified to fit a 327. I guess the previous owner must have installed a small block at one time or another. Remembering a thread on the list where people said both will work, except the engine would sit a bit lower with the small block mounts, I bought a set of small block engine mounts and installed the engine. I have since discovered I need the engine to sit 1/2 to 1 inch higher to address my header clearance issues. I'm assuming if you set the SB and BB chassis mounts down side by side, the "hump" where the engine mount couples with the chassis mount would be larger and taller, raising the engine a bit? I appreciate your comments, Larry Shouse
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
Ok,I found this by doing a search on Team Chevelle. Tom Parsons aka DZAUTO knows his stuff. Read what he had to say. http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121179&highlight=motor+mounts Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper Probably not,Doug. My guess is that a 307 uses a different motor mount than the other small blocks. Why else would the frame mounts be different? Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Mumper, Douglas Are the motor mounts for a 1966 Chevelle with a 307 Chevy SB the same as a 400 Chevy SB? Doug From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 327 & 350 mounts are the same. 307 mounts are different. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: RJ Winkler You got it. The big block mounts are just that much taller. The 327 has a special pair of frame mounts while the 350 and up use the same ones, pretty sure thats how it works out. -RJ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Shouse When I installed my big block, I had to buy a set up upper engine mounts. I bought a big block set, then discovered that the ones I got did not couple correctly with the chassis mounts. The upper mounts were too big. I tool one of the chassis mounts off and took it to a local parts store. We discovered the engine mounts that fit my chassis mount was identified to fit a 327. I guess the previous owner must have installed a small block at one time or another. Remembering a thread on the list where people said both will work, except the engine would sit a bit lower with the small block mounts, I bought a set of small block engine mounts and installed the engine. I have since discovered I need the engine to sit 1/2 to 1 inch higher to address my header clearance issues. I'm assuming if you set the SB and BB chassis mounts down side by side, the "hump" where the engine mount couples with the chassis mount would be larger and taller, raising the engine a bit? I appreciate your comments, Larry Shouse
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
Probably not,Doug. My guess is that a 307 uses a different motor mount than the other small blocks. Why else would the frame mounts be different? Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Mumper, Douglas Are the motor mounts for a 1966 Chevelle with a 307 Chevy SB the same as a 400 Chevy SB? Doug From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 327 & 350 mounts are the same. 307 mounts are different. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: RJ Winkler You got it. The big block mounts are just that much taller. The 327 has a special pair of frame mounts while the 350 and up use the same ones, pretty sure thats how it works out. -RJ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Shouse When I installed my big block, I had to buy a set up upper engine mounts. I bought a big block set, then discovered that the ones I got did not couple correctly with the chassis mounts. The upper mounts were too big. I tool one of the chassis mounts off and took it to a local parts store. We discovered the engine mounts that fit my chassis mount was identified to fit a 327. I guess the previous owner must have installed a small block at one time or another. Remembering a thread on the list where people said both will work, except the engine would sit a bit lower with the small block mounts, I bought a set of small block engine mounts and installed the engine. I have since discovered I need the engine to sit 1/2 to 1 inch higher to address my header clearance issues. I'm assuming if you set the SB and BB chassis mounts down side by side, the "hump" where the engine mount couples with the chassis mount would be larger and taller, raising the engine a bit? I appreciate your comments, Larry Shouse
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
Are the motor mounts for a 1966 Chevelle with a 307 Chevy SB the same as a 400 Chevy SB? Doug From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:24 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question 327 & 350 mounts are the same. 307 mounts are different. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: RJ Winkler You got it. The big block mounts are just that much taller. The 327 has a special pair of frame mounts while the 350 and up use the same ones, pretty sure that’s how it works out. -RJ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Shouse When I installed my big block, I had to buy a set up upper engine mounts. I bought a big block set, then discovered that the ones I got did not couple correctly with the chassis mounts. The upper mounts were too big. I tool one of the chassis mounts off and took it to a local parts store. We discovered the engine mounts that fit my chassis mount was identified to fit a 327. I guess the previous owner must have installed a small block at one time or another. Remembering a thread on the list where people said both will work, except the engine would sit a bit lower with the small block mounts, I bought a set of small block engine mounts and installed the engine. I have since discovered I need the engine to sit 1/2 to 1 inch higher to address my header clearance issues. I'm assuming if you set the SB and BB chassis mounts down side by side, the "hump" where the engine mount couples with the chassis mount would be larger and taller, raising the engine a bit? I appreciate your comments, Larry Shouse
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
Brad,I tend to agree that the later stands were all the same,,except for the 307 stands. Why those were different,I have no clue. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Brad Waller Larry, No problem. Also, my info is for '66-'67 engine mounts/frame stands/or whatever they are really called. My car is an SS396 so it had the old big block stands. When I had trouble with the headers I put in the small block stands and that cleared up the issue. Since the big block is bigger, they did their best to get it to sit lower in the car. After '67, I guess they just made the hoods taller and simplified with one mount for 350 and big blocks. I have no idea why they did anything like they did for the 307 cars... Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry ShouseSent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 11:53 AMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question Thanks Brad. I'm hoping you'll understand when I tell you I hope your situation is different from mine, considering what Clint said about different mounts for small blocks. Larry - Original Message - From: Brad Waller To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question Larry, I think you have it backwards. The big block mounts lower the engine. I had a small block with big block mounts and had lots of trouble with headers. I swapped to small block mounts (sold the big block mounts to a buddy) and the engine is raised up just enough to make headers fit. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry ShouseSent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 6:01 AMTo: Chevelle ListSubject: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question When I installed my big block, I had to buy a set up upper engine mounts. I bought a big block set, then discovered that the ones I got did not couple correctly with the chassis mounts. The upper mounts were too big. I tool one of the chassis mounts off and took it to a local parts store. We discovered the engine mounts that fit my chassis mount was identified to fit a 327. I guess the previous owner must have installed a small block at one time or another. Remembering a thread on the list where people said both will work, except the engine would sit a bit lower with the small block mounts, I bought a set of small block engine mounts and installed the engine. I have since discovered I need the engine to sit 1/2 to 1 inch higher to address my header clearance issues. I'm assuming if you set the SB and BB chassis mounts down side by side, the "hump" where the engine mount couples with the chassis mount would be larger and taller, raising the engine a bit? I appreciate your comments, Larry Shouse
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
Larry,
No
problem. Also, my info is for '66-'67 engine mounts/frame stands/or
whatever they are really called. My car is an SS396 so it had the old big
block stands. When I had trouble with the headers I put in the small block
stands and that cleared up the issue. Since the big block is bigger, they
did their best to get it to sit lower in the car. After '67, I guess they
just made the hoods taller and simplified with one mount for 350 and big
blocks. I have no idea why they did anything like they did for the 307
cars...
Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
'66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes |
245/45/16 BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body
Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry
ShouseSent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 11:53 AMTo: The
Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount
Question
Thanks Brad. I'm hoping you'll understand when I
tell you I hope your situation is different from mine, considering what Clint
said about different mounts for small blocks.
Larry
- Original Message -
From:
Brad Waller
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:42
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine
Mount Question
Larry,
I
think you have it backwards. The big block mounts lower the
engine. I had a small block with big block mounts and had lots of
trouble with headers. I swapped to small block mounts (sold the big
block mounts to a buddy) and the engine is raised up just enough to make
headers fit.
Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
'66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood
Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body
Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry
ShouseSent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 6:01 AMTo:
Chevelle ListSubject: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount
Question
When I installed my big block, I had to buy a
set up upper engine mounts. I bought a big block set, then discovered that
the ones I got did not couple correctly with the chassis mounts. The upper
mounts were too big. I tool one of the chassis mounts off and took it to a
local parts store. We discovered the engine mounts that fit my chassis
mount was identified to fit a 327. I guess the previous owner must have
installed a small block at one time or another. Remembering a thread on
the list where people said both will work, except the engine would sit a
bit lower with the small block mounts, I bought a set of small block
engine mounts and installed the engine.
I have since discovered I need the
engine to sit 1/2 to 1 inch higher to address my header clearance issues.
I'm assuming if you set the SB and BB chassis mounts down side by side,
the "hump" where the engine mount couples with the chassis mount would be
larger and taller, raising the engine a bit?
I appreciate your comments,
Larry
Shouse
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
We went over this subject extensively,last month,but damn if I can remember everything that was said. Guess I need to ask Dale or the gurus over at Team Chevelle and see what they say. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse Thanks Brad. I'm hoping you'll understand when I tell you I hope your situation is different from mine, considering what Clint said about different mounts for small blocks. Larry - Original Message - From: Brad Waller Larry, I think you have it backwards. The big block mounts lower the engine. I had a small block with big block mounts and had lots of trouble with headers. I swapped to small block mounts (sold the big block mounts to a buddy) and the engine is raised up just enough to make headers fit. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry ShouseSent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 6:01 AMTo: Chevelle ListSubject: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question When I installed my big block, I had to buy a set up upper engine mounts. I bought a big block set, then discovered that the ones I got did not couple correctly with the chassis mounts. The upper mounts were too big. I tool one of the chassis mounts off and took it to a local parts store. We discovered the engine mounts that fit my chassis mount was identified to fit a 327. I guess the previous owner must have installed a small block at one time or another. Remembering a thread on the list where people said both will work, except the engine would sit a bit lower with the small block mounts, I bought a set of small block engine mounts and installed the engine. I have since discovered I need the engine to sit 1/2 to 1 inch higher to address my header clearance issues. I'm assuming if you set the SB and BB chassis mounts down side by side, the "hump" where the engine mount couples with the chassis mount would be larger and taller, raising the engine a bit? I appreciate your comments, Larry Shouse
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
I kept the 307 mounts in my 68 El Camino when I swapped in the 468 BB. Always thought the 307 mounts allowed the engine to be mounted a smidgen lower because I never had a problem with running a 4" tall air cleaner. Not sure about header clearances but my Hooker Comps worked ok once I installed a pair of Coil Spring Specialties 2" drop coils on the front. Later on,I installed a pair of Sanderson 1 7/8" intermediate headers and those solved all the problems. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse Clint, do you know in my situation, going from 327 mounts to a BB mount will raise or lower my 396? Thanks, Larry - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper 327 & 350 mounts are the same. 307 mounts are different. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: RJ Winkler You got it. The big block mounts are just that much taller. The 327 has a special pair of frame mounts while the 350 and up use the same ones, pretty sure thats how it works out. -RJ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Shouse When I installed my big block, I had to buy a set up upper engine mounts. I bought a big block set, then discovered that the ones I got did not couple correctly with the chassis mounts. The upper mounts were too big. I tool one of the chassis mounts off and took it to a local parts store. We discovered the engine mounts that fit my chassis mount was identified to fit a 327. I guess the previous owner must have installed a small block at one time or another. Remembering a thread on the list where people said both will work, except the engine would sit a bit lower with the small block mounts, I bought a set of small block engine mounts and installed the engine. I have since discovered I need the engine to sit 1/2 to 1 inch higher to address my header clearance issues. I'm assuming if you set the SB and BB chassis mounts down side by side, the "hump" where the engine mount couples with the chassis mount would be larger and taller, raising the engine a bit? I appreciate your comments, Larry Shouse
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
Thanks Brad. I'm hoping you'll understand when I tell you I hope your situation is different from mine, considering what Clint said about different mounts for small blocks. Larry - Original Message - From: Brad Waller To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question Larry, I think you have it backwards. The big block mounts lower the engine. I had a small block with big block mounts and had lots of trouble with headers. I swapped to small block mounts (sold the big block mounts to a buddy) and the engine is raised up just enough to make headers fit. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry ShouseSent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 6:01 AMTo: Chevelle ListSubject: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question When I installed my big block, I had to buy a set up upper engine mounts. I bought a big block set, then discovered that the ones I got did not couple correctly with the chassis mounts. The upper mounts were too big. I tool one of the chassis mounts off and took it to a local parts store. We discovered the engine mounts that fit my chassis mount was identified to fit a 327. I guess the previous owner must have installed a small block at one time or another. Remembering a thread on the list where people said both will work, except the engine would sit a bit lower with the small block mounts, I bought a set of small block engine mounts and installed the engine. I have since discovered I need the engine to sit 1/2 to 1 inch higher to address my header clearance issues. I'm assuming if you set the SB and BB chassis mounts down side by side, the "hump" where the engine mount couples with the chassis mount would be larger and taller, raising the engine a bit? I appreciate your comments, Larry Shouse
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
Clint, do you know in my situation, going from 327 mounts to a BB mount will raise or lower my 396? Thanks, Larry - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question 327 & 350 mounts are the same. 307 mounts are different. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: RJ Winkler You got it. The big block mounts are just that much taller. The 327 has a special pair of frame mounts while the 350 and up use the same ones, pretty sure thats how it works out. -RJ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Shouse When I installed my big block, I had to buy a set up upper engine mounts. I bought a big block set, then discovered that the ones I got did not couple correctly with the chassis mounts. The upper mounts were too big. I tool one of the chassis mounts off and took it to a local parts store. We discovered the engine mounts that fit my chassis mount was identified to fit a 327. I guess the previous owner must have installed a small block at one time or another. Remembering a thread on the list where people said both will work, except the engine would sit a bit lower with the small block mounts, I bought a set of small block engine mounts and installed the engine. I have since discovered I need the engine to sit 1/2 to 1 inch higher to address my header clearance issues. I'm assuming if you set the SB and BB chassis mounts down side by side, the "hump" where the engine mount couples with the chassis mount would be larger and taller, raising the engine a bit? I appreciate your comments, Larry Shouse
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
327 & 350 mounts are the same. 307 mounts are different. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: RJ Winkler You got it. The big block mounts are just that much taller. The 327 has a special pair of frame mounts while the 350 and up use the same ones, pretty sure thats how it works out. -RJ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Shouse When I installed my big block, I had to buy a set up upper engine mounts. I bought a big block set, then discovered that the ones I got did not couple correctly with the chassis mounts. The upper mounts were too big. I tool one of the chassis mounts off and took it to a local parts store. We discovered the engine mounts that fit my chassis mount was identified to fit a 327. I guess the previous owner must have installed a small block at one time or another. Remembering a thread on the list where people said both will work, except the engine would sit a bit lower with the small block mounts, I bought a set of small block engine mounts and installed the engine. I have since discovered I need the engine to sit 1/2 to 1 inch higher to address my header clearance issues. I'm assuming if you set the SB and BB chassis mounts down side by side, the "hump" where the engine mount couples with the chassis mount would be larger and taller, raising the engine a bit? I appreciate your comments, Larry Shouse
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
Larry, I think you have it backwards. The big block mounts lower the engine. I had a small block with big block mounts and had lots of trouble with headers. I swapped to small block mounts (sold the big block mounts to a buddy) and the engine is raised up just enough to make headers fit. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry ShouseSent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 6:01 AMTo: Chevelle ListSubject: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question When I installed my big block, I had to buy a set up upper engine mounts. I bought a big block set, then discovered that the ones I got did not couple correctly with the chassis mounts. The upper mounts were too big. I tool one of the chassis mounts off and took it to a local parts store. We discovered the engine mounts that fit my chassis mount was identified to fit a 327. I guess the previous owner must have installed a small block at one time or another. Remembering a thread on the list where people said both will work, except the engine would sit a bit lower with the small block mounts, I bought a set of small block engine mounts and installed the engine. I have since discovered I need the engine to sit 1/2 to 1 inch higher to address my header clearance issues. I'm assuming if you set the SB and BB chassis mounts down side by side, the "hump" where the engine mount couples with the chassis mount would be larger and taller, raising the engine a bit? I appreciate your comments, Larry Shouse
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
You got it. The big block mounts are just that much taller. The 327 has a special pair of frame mounts while the 350 and up use the same ones, pretty sure that’s how it works out. -RJ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Shouse Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:01 AM To: Chevelle List Subject: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question When I installed my big block, I had to buy a set up upper engine mounts. I bought a big block set, then discovered that the ones I got did not couple correctly with the chassis mounts. The upper mounts were too big. I tool one of the chassis mounts off and took it to a local parts store. We discovered the engine mounts that fit my chassis mount was identified to fit a 327. I guess the previous owner must have installed a small block at one time or another. Remembering a thread on the list where people said both will work, except the engine would sit a bit lower with the small block mounts, I bought a set of small block engine mounts and installed the engine. I have since discovered I need the engine to sit 1/2 to 1 inch higher to address my header clearance issues. I'm assuming if you set the SB and BB chassis mounts down side by side, the "hump" where the engine mount couples with the chassis mount would be larger and taller, raising the engine a bit? I appreciate your comments, Larry Shouse
[Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
When I installed my big block, I had to buy a set up upper engine mounts. I bought a big block set, then discovered that the ones I got did not couple correctly with the chassis mounts. The upper mounts were too big. I tool one of the chassis mounts off and took it to a local parts store. We discovered the engine mounts that fit my chassis mount was identified to fit a 327. I guess the previous owner must have installed a small block at one time or another. Remembering a thread on the list where people said both will work, except the engine would sit a bit lower with the small block mounts, I bought a set of small block engine mounts and installed the engine. I have since discovered I need the engine to sit 1/2 to 1 inch higher to address my header clearance issues. I'm assuming if you set the SB and BB chassis mounts down side by side, the "hump" where the engine mount couples with the chassis mount would be larger and taller, raising the engine a bit? I appreciate your comments, Larry Shouse
RE: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question part 2
Thanks Pete. Most of the stuff will come out of my '66 so that's taken care of. We were just discussing the tranny issue and my just swap my tranny too. I can always get a TH40 for my 396 anyhow. Thanks, Jon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 2:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question part 2 From: "Jon Bongiorno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > OK.. now that we have the SB to BB thing figured out. What am I gonna > need to look out for changing the straight 6 to a SB in my Girlfriend's '64??? The 230 will bolt to any tranny a SB mounts to. You can use the flexplate. I think the convertors are difeerent. The starters are similar but different in the brace from starter motor housing to block. The PG's themselves are different however. There's a difference in the gear ratio, clutch pack, some sixes have holes in bellhousing for cooling. A six cylinder PG might not hold up well behind a 350. (a turbo 350 is an easy swap though) To go from six to eight or vs versa you need the proper motor mounts, radiator(and filler panel for V8), engine harness, throttle and kickdown linkages, PS hoses, exhaust. Probably missing something. Pete Geurds Douglassville, PA
RE: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question part 2
She says thanks! Jon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 11:38 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question part 2 A PG will defnitely bolt up to a SB V8. -Original Message- Don't know if the PG will bolt up to the V8 or not
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question part 2
From: "Jon Bongiorno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > OK.. now that we have the SB to BB thing figured out. What am I gonna > need to look out for changing the straight 6 to a SB in my Girlfriend's '64??? The 230 will bolt to any tranny a SB mounts to. You can use the flexplate. I think the convertors are difeerent. The starters are similar but different in the brace from starter motor housing to block. The PG's themselves are different however. There's a difference in the gear ratio, clutch pack, some sixes have holes in bellhousing for cooling. A six cylinder PG might not hold up well behind a 350. (a turbo 350 is an easy swap though) To go from six to eight or vs versa you need the proper motor mounts, radiator(and filler panel for V8), engine harness, throttle and kickdown linkages, PS hoses, exhaust. Probably missing something. Pete Geurds Douglassville, PA
RE: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question part 2
A PG will defnitely bolt up to a SB V8. -Original Message- Don't know if the PG will bolt up to the V8 or not
RE: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question part 2
The holes for the frame mounts should already be in place, just get the frame and matching engine mounts - preferably those with the safety lock. Don't know if the PG will bolt up to the V8 or not, never made that swap - may need starter for the V8 (?). Naturally, you'll need all associated brackets for alt/ps/ac if equipped. Exhaust manifolds or headers. Might have to play a bit with routing of existing wiring such as alt. Factory or aftermarket parts for a V8 shouldn't be a big problem since the 64 was available with the 283. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709/NECOA #41 GR8PMKN FOR SALE DalesPlace My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles MidwestChevelles Midwest Chevelle Show Information I've stopped 14,813 spam messages. You can too! One month FREE spam protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/spamnetsig/ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon > Bongiorno > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 8:37 AM > To: 'Larry Williams'; 'The Chevelle Mailing List' > Subject: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question part 2 > > OK.. now that we have the SB to BB thing figured out. What > am I gonna need to look out for changing the straight 6 to a > SB in my Girlfriend's '64??? > > Thanks, > > Jon Bongiorno > > >
[Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question part 2
OK.. now that we have the SB to BB thing figured out. What am I gonna need to look out for changing the straight 6 to a SB in my Girlfriend's '64??? Thanks, Jon Bongiorno
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
Thanks Charles. - Original Message - From: "65ss.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Larry Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question > Well, I can answer this one. > > http://65ss.com/index.php?m=20040605 > > If you look at my June 5th post, I show the differences in BB and SB mounts. > The ONLY difference is a small recess in the mounts. If I would have known > this, I would have saved about $100. If you big block clears the mounts, > then you're fine. They are the same height. If you click the thumbnails, > it will enlarge the pictures for you. > > Later > Charles > --- > Check out my 502 powered '65 Malibu Super Sport Project > http://www.65ss.com > > > - Original Message - > From: "Larry Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 2:53 PM > Subject: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question > > > > My 65 SS originally had a SB (duh), I changed to a BB, and don't recall > > changing the front mounts Are the front mounts different. Is the height > of > > the engine different? Trying to order headers and this issue came up. > > > > Larry Williams > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
Well, I can answer this one. http://65ss.com/index.php?m=20040605 If you look at my June 5th post, I show the differences in BB and SB mounts. The ONLY difference is a small recess in the mounts. If I would have known this, I would have saved about $100. If you big block clears the mounts, then you're fine. They are the same height. If you click the thumbnails, it will enlarge the pictures for you. Later Charles --- Check out my 502 powered '65 Malibu Super Sport Project http://www.65ss.com - Original Message - From: "Larry Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 2:53 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question > My 65 SS originally had a SB (duh), I changed to a BB, and don't recall > changing the front mounts Are the front mounts different. Is the height of > the engine different? Trying to order headers and this issue came up. > > Larry Williams > > >
[Chevelle-list] Engine Mount Question
My 65 SS originally had a SB (duh), I changed to a BB, and don't recall changing the front mounts Are the front mounts different. Is the height of the engine different? Trying to order headers and this issue came up. Larry Williams
