Re: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel installation Cost
My neighbor is a pipefitter/welder by trade, and when I got the '66 I begged him to teach me how to weld. He taught me using his welder, and from there I did the completion of my driver rear quarter, the setup and installation of my passenger quarter, replaced the floor pans and the trunk- they're not 100% Grade A work, but the car still turns alot of heads and I saved alot of cash, just like Tom. Jim '66 Malibu --- Tom Rightler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cost me $0 to have the quarters installed on the > Charger. I guess that's because I did it myself > along with installing new floor pans, trunk > pans/drop offs, rockers, outer wheelhousings, > fabrication pieces, etc. All I have in the car are > materials costs. From the amount of hours I have in > thatr car now (approaching 700), there is no way I > could ever pay someone to do it for me, that's why I > learned how to weld, do bodywork, and paint. I'll > have the car turn key from a tusty/rotted POS for > less than $17,000. > > Tom Rightler > MCC Newsletter Editor > - Original Message - > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 3:50 PM > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel > installation Cost > > > Hey Donnie: That's alot of $ you got going > into that car. We must be paying you too much as > MCC Prez!! LOL!! You are correct. To do > something right costs. Whether it's time or money. > Do it right, do it once and you'll never regret it!! > Hell, it's only money. The payback is when the > Chevelle looks good, is dependable & runs good, & > you're out cruising! Nothing like it. Just > count all the thumbs up you get. Many guys dream. > We get to live it!!! In my opinion, worth every > $ I got in my car!! Good luck on the resto. > > Phil G. 65 SS > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net > Sent: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:32 AM > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel > installation Cost > > > Amen Mike. > > Just cause you can get it done cheaper doesn't > mean better. > > For the '69 SS I am currently doing a frame off > restoration on ... I had both quarters replaced > (FULL), full floor pan, trunk pan, both front > fenders (NOS), trunk lid, front valance panel, outer > fender wells, trunk drop offs, and all of the other > rust spots cut out, new metal welded in, Hood fixed > and the rest of the body smoothed. The car is now > 100% rust free. Cost including parts was about > $6500. This was with me and my friend Tom taking > the car apart, sanding down the areas that were not > going to be replaced down to metal and completely > stripping/gutting the insides of the car, helping > out with the body work (grinding, sanding, cutting, > etc...) every weekend for 6 weeks. > > I had figured about $4500 going into it...Once we > started removing sheet metal, we found other areas > that needed fixing... that were NOT visible from the > start. Luckily my body man is one of the best in > the business and he was able to make most of what we > needed on the spot. While the quarters were off, we > POR-15'd all exposed metal. Needed.. maybe not... > but good insurance!! He also "suggested" we fix > other things while we were doing it... kind of pay > me now ... or hate yourself later for not doing it. > He is a good friend, so ripping me off was not even > in the equation. So after $2000 more than I had > budgeted (and another 2 weeks of labor), it was > ready to take home. > > The car still needs to be final block sanded a few > times to get it 100% ready for paint... which will > probably cost about another $1000 or so. Then add > about another $3500 for paint. > > Cheap NO but this is what it takes and costs > to do it right. > > Good Luck!! > > Donnie > > -- > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of > free safety and security tools, free access to > millions of high-quality videos from across the web, > free AOL Mail and more. > It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/
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Cost me $0 to have the quarters installed on the Charger. I guess that's because I did it myself along with installing new floor pans, trunk pans/drop offs, rockers, outer wheelhousings, fabrication pieces, etc. All I have in the car are materials costs. From the amount of hours I have in thatr car now (approaching 700), there is no way I could ever pay someone to do it for me, that's why I learned how to weld, do bodywork, and paint. I'll have the car turn key from a tusty/rotted POS for less than $17,000. Tom Rightler MCC Newsletter Editor - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel installation Cost Hey Donnie: That's alot of $ you got going into that car. We must be paying you too much as MCC Prez!! LOL!! You are correct. To do something right costs. Whether it's time or money. Do it right, do it once and you'll never regret it!! Hell, it's only money. The payback is when the Chevelle looks good, is dependable & runs good, & you're out cruising! Nothing like it. Just count all the thumbs up you get. Many guys dream. We get to live it!!! In my opinion, worth every $ I got in my car!! Good luck on the resto. Phil G. 65 SS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel installation Cost Amen Mike. Just cause you can get it done cheaper doesn't mean better. For the '69 SS I am currently doing a frame off restoration on ... I had both quarters replaced (FULL), full floor pan, trunk pan, both front fenders (NOS), trunk lid, front valance panel, outer fender wells, trunk drop offs, and all of the other rust spots cut out, new metal welded in, Hood fixed and the rest of the body smoothed. The car is now 100% rust free. Cost including parts was about $6500. This was with me and my friend Tom taking the car apart, sanding down the areas that were not going to be replaced down to metal and completely stripping/gutting the insides of the car, helping out with the body work (grinding, sanding, cutting, etc...) every weekend for 6 weeks. I had figured about $4500 going into it...Once we started removing sheet metal, we found other areas that needed fixing... that were NOT visible from the start. Luckily my body man is one of the best in the business and he was able to make most of what we needed on the spot. While the quarters were off, we POR-15'd all exposed metal. Needed.. maybe not... but good insurance!! He also "suggested" we fix other things while we were doing it... kind of pay me now ... or hate yourself later for not doing it. He is a good friend, so ripping me off was not even in the equation. So after $2000 more than I had budgeted (and another 2 weeks of labor), it was ready to take home. The car still needs to be final block sanded a few times to get it 100% ready for paint... which will probably cost about another $1000 or so. Then add about another $3500 for paint. Cheap NO but this is what it takes and costs to do it right. Good Luck!! Donnie -- Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
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I live in Birmingham, Alabama --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Roger... should have asked earlier where do you > live > > > Donnie > Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121
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Roger... should have asked earlier where do you live Donnie
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Hey Donnie: That's alot of $ you got going into that car. We must be paying you too much as MCC Prez!! LOL!! You are correct. To do something right costs. Whether it's time or money. Do it right, do it once and you'll never regret it!! Hell, it's only money. The payback is when the Chevelle looks good, is dependable & runs good, & you're out cruising! Nothing like it. Just count all the thumbs up you get. Many guys dream. We get to live it!!! In my opinion, worth every $ I got in my car!! Good luck on the resto. Phil G. 65 SS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel installation Cost Amen Mike. Just cause you can get it done cheaper doesn't mean better. For the '69 SS I am currently doing a frame off restoration on ... I had both quarters replaced (FULL), full floor pan, trunk pan, both front fenders (NOS), trunk lid, front valance panel, outer fender wells, trunk drop offs, and all of the other rust spots cut out, new metal welded in, Hood fixed and the rest of the body smoothed. The car is now 100% rust free. Cost including parts was about $6500. This was with me and my friend Tom taking the car apart, sanding down the areas that were not going to be replaced down to metal and completely stripping/gutting the insides of the car, helping out with the body work (grinding, sanding, cutting, etc...) every weekend for 6 weeks. I had figured about $4500 going into it...Once we started removing sheet metal, we found other areas that needed fixing... that were NOT visible from the start. Luckily my body man is one of the best in the business and he was able to make most of what we needed on the spot. While the quarters were off, we POR-15'd all exposed metal. Needed.. maybe not... but good insurance!! He also "suggested" we fix other things while we were doing it... kind of pay me now ... or hate yourself later for not doing it. He is a good friend, so ripping me off was not even in the equation. So after $2000 more than I had budgeted (and another 2 weeks of labor), it was ready to take home. The car still needs to be final block sanded a few times to get it 100% ready for paint... which will probably cost about another $1000 or so. Then add about another $3500 for paint. Cheap NO but this is what it takes and costs to do it right. Good Luck!! Donnie Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
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You are right on target Donnie. You never can tell what will be exposed when you strip and disassemble. Now what do you think the cost would have been had you rolled it into your buddies shop and said fix it. That's what I am faced with. My customer hauled this 66 from Kansas to NC thinking it was solid. Once I had it apart it was enough to make a grown man cry. You either fix it or start hunting a better body. More often than not we have to fix em because the better ones are getting scarce. The added cost to this mans project was around $6,000. parts and labor. Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel installation Cost Amen Mike. Just cause you can get it done cheaper doesn't mean better. For the '69 SS I am currently doing a frame off restoration on ... I had both quarters replaced (FULL), full floor pan, trunk pan, both front fenders (NOS), trunk lid, front valance panel, outer fender wells, trunk drop offs, and all of the other rust spots cut out, new metal welded in, Hood fixed and the rest of the body smoothed. The car is now 100% rust free. Cost including parts was about $6500. This was with me and my friend Tom taking the car apart, sanding down the areas that were not going to be replaced down to metal and completely stripping/gutting the insides of the car, helping out with the body work (grinding, sanding, cutting, etc...) every weekend for 6 weeks. I had figured about $4500 going into it...Once we started removing sheet metal, we found other areas that needed fixing... that were NOT visible from the start. Luckily my body man is one of the best in the business and he was able to make most of what we needed on the spot. While the quarters were off, we POR-15'd all exposed metal. Needed.. maybe not... but good insurance!! He also "suggested" we fix other things while we were doing it... kind of pay me now ... or hate yourself later for not doing it. He is a good friend, so ripping me off was not even in the equation. So after $2000 more than I had budgeted (and another 2 weeks of labor), it was ready to take home. The car still needs to be final block sanded a few times to get it 100% ready for paint... which will probably cost about another $1000 or so. Then add about another $3500 for paint. Cheap NO but this is what it takes and costs to do it right. Good Luck!! Donnie -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.25/669 - Release Date: 2/4/2007 9:58 PM
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Roger, Don't get discouraged. Be smart about how you go about your resto. Don't do a full quarter panel if you can avoid it. A full quarter gets into the roof line, the door jamb, the trunk and the rear panel. If a quarter skin will work you will find the labor costs will be a fraction of the full quarter install. A great deal of time is involved in removal of the old metal in floor pan and trunk pan installs. Do as much of this yourself as possible. Use caution not to remove too much. It is best to have the new pans in front of you for reference before any cutting is done. The 66 I referenced before is a worst case scenerio. It was almost too far gone to rebuild. Mike - Original Message - From: "Roger Griggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel installation Cost That's kind of depressing news. I've had this 70 SS about 10 years and was ready to proceed, but with those costs, it may be out of my price range. It still needs a front clip and other things too. Thanks for the Info. --- Mike Holleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That was the point of my post. It is expensive to get good metal work done. That two hundred hours covered all the metal from the back of the roof to the bumper. I had to remake the piece above the rearend and the piece that goes under the rear panel. Usually if a car needs quarters and trunk pans there will be several more pieces involved. Plus this is a two man job. If Goodmark can do a quarter install for 750.00 that's where I would go. From my experience a trunk floor install will take every bit of 50 hours if done right. Mike - Original Message - From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel installation Cost > 200 hours? Good Lord! At a nominal shop rate of $50/hr,that would equate > out > to $10,000. > Clint Hooper > H&H Custom,owner > 1969 El Camino protourer > http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm > http://www.lateral-g.net/members/hooper/ > "You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a > pile of brass." > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Holleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> Roger, That is a major job. I would guess you are being quoted more than > 150 >> man hours to do this. It takes that and more to do it right. This also > will >> most likely require new inner fenders as well. I just finished this job >> on > a >> 66 Chevelle. It was closer to two hundred hours. Plus I had to make some >> parts that were not available. >> Mike Holleman >> - Original Message - >> From: "Roger Griggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> > I need to have two quarter panels and trunk floor >> > installed. Has anyone paid to have that done lately? >> > The body shops here in town seem to want an exorbitant >> > amount of money to put them in for me. They're full >> > quarter panels, not skins. >> > >> > Thanks > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.24/668 - Release Date: 2/4/2007 > 1:30 AM > > Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.24/668 - Release Date: 2/4/2007 1:30 AM
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You know Donnie, that sounds like you got a good deal. I justdon't want to pay $10,000 to put on quarter panels. I'd GLADLY pay what it has cost you. Thanks.There's hope out there yet. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Amen Mike. > > Just cause you can get it done cheaper doesn't > mean better. > > For the '69 SS I am currently doing a frame off > restoration on ... I had > both quarters replaced (FULL), full floor pan, trunk > pan, both front fenders > (NOS), trunk lid, front valance panel, outer fender > wells, trunk drop offs, and > all of the other rust spots cut out, new metal > welded in, Hood fixed and the > rest of the body smoothed. The car is now 100% > rust free. Cost including > parts was about $6500. This was with me and my > friend Tom taking the car > apart, sanding down the areas that were not going > to be replaced down to metal and > completely stripping/gutting the insides of the > car, helping out with the > body work (grinding, sanding, cutting, etc...) > every weekend for 6 weeks. > > I had figured about $4500 going into it...Once we > started removing sheet > metal, we found other areas that needed fixing... > that were NOT visible from the > start. Luckily my body man is one of the best in > the business and he was > able to make most of what we needed on the spot. > While the quarters were off, > we POR-15'd all exposed metal. Needed.. maybe > not... but good insurance!! > He also "suggested" we fix other things while we > were doing it... kind of pay > me now ... or hate yourself later for not doing it. > He is a good friend, so > ripping me off was not even in the equation. So > after $2000 more than I had > budgeted (and another 2 weeks of labor), it was > ready to take home. > > The car still needs to be final block sanded a few > times to get it 100% > ready for paint... which will probably cost about > another $1000 or so. Then add > about another $3500 for paint. > > Cheap NO but this is what it takes and costs to > do it right. > > Good Luck!! > > Donnie > Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know.
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Jim, Thanks for the info. I actually had the front floor panels put in myself. I cut the old rusty ones out and had a friend weld them in for nothing. Maybe I will try to get someone to do it for me. The body shops I went to also wanted to put in a full quarter panel, but actually a skin would do because its really rusted around the wheel well lip and the lower part, not the whole quarter. I'm calling a few places today to see what else I can get. I appreciate the advice.I'm not giving up yet. --- "J. Brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Roger, > > Have any friends who know how to weld? You could > probably learn from them. All depends on what you > want- if this car is a driver for you, it doesn't > need > to have $3K put into it for welding work- How bad > is > the quarter now? Just rust? Mashed? All depends > on > what you want. > > Don't give up, just determine where you wanted the > car > to be. If you were looking to sell it at > Barrett-Jackson, then that's a whole different > ballgame. > > Regards, > > Jim > '66 Malibu > > > --- Roger Griggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That's kind of depressing news. I've had this 70 > SS > > about 10 years and was ready to proceed, but with > > those costs, it may be out of my price range. It > > still > > needs a front clip and other things too. > > > > Thanks for the Info. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Mike Holleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > That was the point of my post. It is expensive > to > > > get good metal work done. > > > That two hundred hours covered all the metal > from > > > the back of the roof to > > > the bumper. I had to remake the piece above the > > > rearend and the piece that > > > goes under the rear panel. Usually if a car > needs > > > quarters and trunk pans > > > there will be several more pieces involved. Plus > > > this is a two man job. If > > > Goodmark can do a quarter install for 750.00 > > that's > > > where I would go. From > > > my experience a trunk floor install will take > > every > > > bit of 50 hours if done > > > right. > > > Mike > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 2:26 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel > > > installation Cost > > > > > > > > > > 200 hours? Good Lord! At a nominal shop rate > of > > > $50/hr,that would equate > > > > out > > > > to $10,000. > > > > Clint Hooper > > > > H&H Custom,owner > > > > 1969 El Camino protourer > > > > > > > > > > http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm > > > > http://www.lateral-g.net/members/hooper/ > > > > "You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But > by > > > God,you'll find me in a > > > > pile of brass." > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Mike Holleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Roger, That is a major job. I would guess you > > are > > > being quoted more than > > > > 150 > > > >> man hours to do this. It takes that and more > to > > > do it right. This also > > > > will > > > >> most likely require new inner fenders as > well. > > I > > > just finished this job > > > >> on > > > > a > > > >> 66 Chevelle. It was closer to two hundred > > hours. > > > Plus I had to make some > > > >> parts that were not available. > > > >> Mike Holleman > > > >> - Original Message - > > > >> From: "Roger Griggs" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> > > > > >> > I need to have two quarter panels and trunk > > > floor > > > >> > installed. Has anyone paid to have that > done > > > lately? > > > >> > The body shops here in town seem to want an > > > exorbitant > > > >> > amount of money to put them in for me. > > They're > > > full > > > >> > quarter panels, not skins. > > > >> > > > > >> > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: > 268.17.24/668 > > - > > > Release Date: 2/4/2007 > > > > 1:30 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheap talk? > > Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call > > rates. > > http://voice.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > Need Mail bonding? > Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! > Answers users. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 > > Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com
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Roger, Have any friends who know how to weld? You could probably learn from them. All depends on what you want- if this car is a driver for you, it doesn't need to have $3K put into it for welding work- How bad is the quarter now? Just rust? Mashed? All depends on what you want. Don't give up, just determine where you wanted the car to be. If you were looking to sell it at Barrett-Jackson, then that's a whole different ballgame. Regards, Jim '66 Malibu --- Roger Griggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's kind of depressing news. I've had this 70 SS > about 10 years and was ready to proceed, but with > those costs, it may be out of my price range. It > still > needs a front clip and other things too. > > Thanks for the Info. > > > > > > --- Mike Holleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That was the point of my post. It is expensive to > > get good metal work done. > > That two hundred hours covered all the metal from > > the back of the roof to > > the bumper. I had to remake the piece above the > > rearend and the piece that > > goes under the rear panel. Usually if a car needs > > quarters and trunk pans > > there will be several more pieces involved. Plus > > this is a two man job. If > > Goodmark can do a quarter install for 750.00 > that's > > where I would go. From > > my experience a trunk floor install will take > every > > bit of 50 hours if done > > right. > > Mike > > - Original Message - > > From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 2:26 PM > > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel > > installation Cost > > > > > > > 200 hours? Good Lord! At a nominal shop rate of > > $50/hr,that would equate > > > out > > > to $10,000. > > > Clint Hooper > > > H&H Custom,owner > > > 1969 El Camino protourer > > > > > > http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm > > > http://www.lateral-g.net/members/hooper/ > > > "You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by > > God,you'll find me in a > > > pile of brass." > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Mike Holleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > >> Roger, That is a major job. I would guess you > are > > being quoted more than > > > 150 > > >> man hours to do this. It takes that and more to > > do it right. This also > > > will > > >> most likely require new inner fenders as well. > I > > just finished this job > > >> on > > > a > > >> 66 Chevelle. It was closer to two hundred > hours. > > Plus I had to make some > > >> parts that were not available. > > >> Mike Holleman > > >> - Original Message - > > >> From: "Roger Griggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> > > > >> > I need to have two quarter panels and trunk > > floor > > >> > installed. Has anyone paid to have that done > > lately? > > >> > The body shops here in town seem to want an > > exorbitant > > >> > amount of money to put them in for me. > They're > > full > > >> > quarter panels, not skins. > > >> > > > >> > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.24/668 > - > > Release Date: 2/4/2007 > > > 1:30 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheap talk? > Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call > rates. > http://voice.yahoo.com > > Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091
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Amen Mike. Just cause you can get it done cheaper doesn't mean better. For the '69 SS I am currently doing a frame off restoration on ... I had both quarters replaced (FULL), full floor pan, trunk pan, both front fenders (NOS), trunk lid, front valance panel, outer fender wells, trunk drop offs, and all of the other rust spots cut out, new metal welded in, Hood fixed and the rest of the body smoothed. The car is now 100% rust free. Cost including parts was about $6500. This was with me and my friend Tom taking the car apart, sanding down the areas that were not going to be replaced down to metal and completely stripping/gutting the insides of the car, helping out with the body work (grinding, sanding, cutting, etc...) every weekend for 6 weeks. I had figured about $4500 going into it...Once we started removing sheet metal, we found other areas that needed fixing... that were NOT visible from the start. Luckily my body man is one of the best in the business and he was able to make most of what we needed on the spot. While the quarters were off, we POR-15'd all exposed metal. Needed.. maybe not... but good insurance!! He also "suggested" we fix other things while we were doing it... kind of pay me now ... or hate yourself later for not doing it. He is a good friend, so ripping me off was not even in the equation. So after $2000 more than I had budgeted (and another 2 weeks of labor), it was ready to take home. The car still needs to be final block sanded a few times to get it 100% ready for paint... which will probably cost about another $1000 or so. Then add about another $3500 for paint. Cheap NO but this is what it takes and costs to do it right. Good Luck!! Donnie
Re: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel installation Cost
I too have looked at the Goodmark install through C. Hopkins in Ga. I just picked up a 67 convertable in parts for my next project. (on a 71 442 conv. now) I anticipate that I will take it to Ga. for 1 quarter and full floor/trunk and rockers. The car I bought did not have front clip so I have also budgeted for inner/outer fenders and radiator support while there. Since I will have to ship/Trailer from Eagle River Alaska I have put a lot of thought into this. I don't anticipate starting on this car until late 08 so any info on this operation would be great. Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Holleman Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:17 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel installation Cost That was the point of my post. It is expensive to get good metal work done. That two hundred hours covered all the metal from the back of the roof to the bumper. I had to remake the piece above the rearend and the piece that goes under the rear panel. Usually if a car needs quarters and trunk pans there will be several more pieces involved. Plus this is a two man job. If Goodmark can do a quarter install for 750.00 that's where I would go. From my experience a trunk floor install will take every bit of 50 hours if done right. Mike - Original Message - From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel installation Cost > 200 hours? Good Lord! At a nominal shop rate of $50/hr,that would equate > out > to $10,000. > Clint Hooper > H&H Custom,owner > 1969 El Camino protourer > http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm > http://www.lateral-g.net/members/hooper/ > "You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a > pile of brass." > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Holleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> Roger, That is a major job. I would guess you are being quoted more than > 150 >> man hours to do this. It takes that and more to do it right. This also > will >> most likely require new inner fenders as well. I just finished this job >> on > a >> 66 Chevelle. It was closer to two hundred hours. Plus I had to make some >> parts that were not available. >> Mike Holleman >> - Original Message - >> From: "Roger Griggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> > I need to have two quarter panels and trunk floor >> > installed. Has anyone paid to have that done lately? >> > The body shops here in town seem to want an exorbitant >> > amount of money to put them in for me. They're full >> > quarter panels, not skins. >> > >> > Thanks > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.24/668 - Release Date: 2/4/2007 > 1:30 AM > >
Re: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel installation Cost
That's kind of depressing news. I've had this 70 SS about 10 years and was ready to proceed, but with those costs, it may be out of my price range. It still needs a front clip and other things too. Thanks for the Info. --- Mike Holleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That was the point of my post. It is expensive to > get good metal work done. > That two hundred hours covered all the metal from > the back of the roof to > the bumper. I had to remake the piece above the > rearend and the piece that > goes under the rear panel. Usually if a car needs > quarters and trunk pans > there will be several more pieces involved. Plus > this is a two man job. If > Goodmark can do a quarter install for 750.00 that's > where I would go. From > my experience a trunk floor install will take every > bit of 50 hours if done > right. > Mike > - Original Message - > From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" > > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel > installation Cost > > > > 200 hours? Good Lord! At a nominal shop rate of > $50/hr,that would equate > > out > > to $10,000. > > Clint Hooper > > H&H Custom,owner > > 1969 El Camino protourer > > > http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm > > http://www.lateral-g.net/members/hooper/ > > "You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by > God,you'll find me in a > > pile of brass." > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Mike Holleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >> Roger, That is a major job. I would guess you are > being quoted more than > > 150 > >> man hours to do this. It takes that and more to > do it right. This also > > will > >> most likely require new inner fenders as well. I > just finished this job > >> on > > a > >> 66 Chevelle. It was closer to two hundred hours. > Plus I had to make some > >> parts that were not available. > >> Mike Holleman > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Roger Griggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > >> > I need to have two quarter panels and trunk > floor > >> > installed. Has anyone paid to have that done > lately? > >> > The body shops here in town seem to want an > exorbitant > >> > amount of money to put them in for me. They're > full > >> > quarter panels, not skins. > >> > > >> > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.24/668 - > Release Date: 2/4/2007 > > 1:30 AM > > > > > > > Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel installation Cost
That was the point of my post. It is expensive to get good metal work done. That two hundred hours covered all the metal from the back of the roof to the bumper. I had to remake the piece above the rearend and the piece that goes under the rear panel. Usually if a car needs quarters and trunk pans there will be several more pieces involved. Plus this is a two man job. If Goodmark can do a quarter install for 750.00 that's where I would go. From my experience a trunk floor install will take every bit of 50 hours if done right. Mike - Original Message - From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel installation Cost 200 hours? Good Lord! At a nominal shop rate of $50/hr,that would equate out to $10,000. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino protourer http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm http://www.lateral-g.net/members/hooper/ "You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile of brass." - Original Message - From: "Mike Holleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Roger, That is a major job. I would guess you are being quoted more than 150 man hours to do this. It takes that and more to do it right. This also will most likely require new inner fenders as well. I just finished this job on a 66 Chevelle. It was closer to two hundred hours. Plus I had to make some parts that were not available. Mike Holleman - Original Message - From: "Roger Griggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I need to have two quarter panels and trunk floor > installed. Has anyone paid to have that done lately? > The body shops here in town seem to want an exorbitant > amount of money to put them in for me. They're full > quarter panels, not skins. > > Thanks -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.24/668 - Release Date: 2/4/2007 1:30 AM
Re: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel installation Cost
I had just the driver skin put on my '66 at Maaco about 5 years ago, and it ran over $500- and that was just for them to tack it in place. The only reason I had them do it is b/c that side of the car had been hit in the past, and I'd never done a skin prior to that one. So I let them tack in in place and I closed up the welds the rest of the way around. Hope this helps. Regards, Jim --- Clint Hooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 200 hours? Good Lord! At a nominal shop rate of > $50/hr,that would equate out > to $10,000. > Clint Hooper > H&H Custom,owner > 1969 El Camino protourer > http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm > http://www.lateral-g.net/members/hooper/ > "You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by > God,you'll find me in a > pile of brass." > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Holleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Roger, That is a major job. I would guess you are > being quoted more than > 150 > > man hours to do this. It takes that and more to do > it right. This also > will > > most likely require new inner fenders as well. I > just finished this job on > a > > 66 Chevelle. It was closer to two hundred hours. > Plus I had to make some > > parts that were not available. > > Mike Holleman > > - Original Message - > > From: "Roger Griggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > I need to have two quarter panels and trunk > floor > > > installed. Has anyone paid to have that done > lately? > > > The body shops here in town seem to want an > exorbitant > > > amount of money to put them in for me. They're > full > > > quarter panels, not skins. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
Re: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel installation Cost
200 hours? Good Lord! At a nominal shop rate of $50/hr,that would equate out to $10,000. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino protourer http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm http://www.lateral-g.net/members/hooper/ "You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile of brass." - Original Message - From: "Mike Holleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Roger, That is a major job. I would guess you are being quoted more than 150 > man hours to do this. It takes that and more to do it right. This also will > most likely require new inner fenders as well. I just finished this job on a > 66 Chevelle. It was closer to two hundred hours. Plus I had to make some > parts that were not available. > Mike Holleman > - Original Message - > From: "Roger Griggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > I need to have two quarter panels and trunk floor > > installed. Has anyone paid to have that done lately? > > The body shops here in town seem to want an exorbitant > > amount of money to put them in for me. They're full > > quarter panels, not skins. > > > > Thanks
Re: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel installation Cost
Roger, That is a major job. I would guess you are being quoted more than 150 man hours to do this. It takes that and more to do it right. This also will most likely require new inner fenders as well. I just finished this job on a 66 Chevelle. It was closer to two hundred hours. Plus I had to make some parts that were not available. Mike Holleman - Original Message - From: "Roger Griggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 12:01 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel installation Cost I need to have two quarter panels and trunk floor installed. Has anyone paid to have that done lately? The body shops here in town seem to want an exorbitant amount of money to put them in for me. They're full quarter panels, not skins. Thanks Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! http://mobile.yahoo.com/services?promote=mail -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.24/668 - Release Date: 2/4/2007 1:30 AM
[Chevelle-list] Re Quarter Panel installation Cost
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