Re: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze
I've always just dumped in 2 gal of antifreeze, then fill with water (on a completely drained system that is). I figure it'll get mixed up pretty well soon enough. ;-) -- When Satan is knocking at your door, simply say, "Jesus, could you get that for me?" http://www.christianet.com Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com TREMEC Distributor at http://www.5speedTransmissions.com Team Chevelle member #1778 (Gold), ACES member #1377 Hoosier State Chevelle Assoc (http://www.IndianaChevelles.com) #6 Mike Holleman wrote: John, The best way to mix your antifreeze is use a clean drain pan, five gallon bucket etc. dump in two gallons of AntiFreeze and two gallons of distilled water, mix it up. Then pour through a funnel into the radiator. I use a funnel with screen just to be safe. If you have leftover, mark one of your now empty jugs as premixed and use this to add later. Your Elky will hold most of four gallons if it is completely drained. Mike - Original Message - From: "John Nasta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 4:29 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze Well, I started flushing out the orange stuff today. I drained the radiator by opening the petcock and also disconnecting the lower radiator hose, then refilled it and ran the engine until it was hot, then repeated that sequence about three more times before what came out finally started looking pretty much clear. It's not supposed to freeze here tonight so I'll drive it a little tomorrow and then drain it one more time to see if it looks clear. If it does I'll refill with water and then drain half the system (need to look up what the total capacity is and then take half of that out) and refill w/ the green stuff. Too bad I didn't know this sooner. I had been running straight water and just put the orange stuff in yesterday. :( -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.7/156 - Release Date: 11/2/2005 -- Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.7/155 - Release Date: 11/1/2005
RE: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze
According to my 68 Olds CSM, a SB w/ A/C holds 15.5 quarts. I assume Chevy is about the same. If you know the total capacity of the system, then you also know that if you add half that amount of coolant and the rest water, you have a 50/50 mixture. The problem with draining the system, pre-mixing the coolant, and then filling it with the 50/50 mix is that it's not that easy to fully drain the engine. There's also a better chance of getting contaminants into the mixture. I agree that with the 3/4 of a quart that's left over you should add water to it, mark the container, and save it for topping off. Either way it's not the end of the world if you don't have an exact 50/50 mix but I think you'd get closer if you just put the right amount of coolant in and top off with water (assuming that the system started out with straight water). John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Holleman Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 5:18 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze John, The best way to mix your antifreeze is use a clean drain pan, five gallon bucket etc. dump in two gallons of AntiFreeze and two gallons of distilled water, mix it up. Then pour through a funnel into the radiator. I use a funnel with screen just to be safe. If you have leftover, mark one of your now empty jugs as premixed and use this to add later. Your Elky will hold most of four gallons if it is completely drained. Mike
Re: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze
John, The best way to mix your antifreeze is use a clean drain pan, five gallon bucket etc. dump in two gallons of AntiFreeze and two gallons of distilled water, mix it up. Then pour through a funnel into the radiator. I use a funnel with screen just to be safe. If you have leftover, mark one of your now empty jugs as premixed and use this to add later. Your Elky will hold most of four gallons if it is completely drained. Mike - Original Message - From: "John Nasta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 4:29 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze Well, I started flushing out the orange stuff today. I drained the radiator by opening the petcock and also disconnecting the lower radiator hose, then refilled it and ran the engine until it was hot, then repeated that sequence about three more times before what came out finally started looking pretty much clear. It's not supposed to freeze here tonight so I'll drive it a little tomorrow and then drain it one more time to see if it looks clear. If it does I'll refill with water and then drain half the system (need to look up what the total capacity is and then take half of that out) and refill w/ the green stuff. Too bad I didn't know this sooner. I had been running straight water and just put the orange stuff in yesterday. :( -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.7/156 - Release Date: 11/2/2005
RE: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze
Well, I started flushing out the orange stuff today. I drained the radiator by opening the petcock and also disconnecting the lower radiator hose, then refilled it and ran the engine until it was hot, then repeated that sequence about three more times before what came out finally started looking pretty much clear. It's not supposed to freeze here tonight so I'll drive it a little tomorrow and then drain it one more time to see if it looks clear. If it does I'll refill with water and then drain half the system (need to look up what the total capacity is and then take half of that out) and refill w/ the green stuff. Too bad I didn't know this sooner. I had been running straight water and just put the orange stuff in yesterday. :(
Re: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze
Whoops forgot to mention the 2 water pumps and hoses I replaced on the truck since new. Larry (Z)
Re: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze
98 GMC 3500 with Dex Cool. $1400.00 to replace radiator , intake gaskets and hoses. Cause? Shop (Cousins shop) says" We get tons of Gm cars-trucks with factory antifreeze needing gasket and radiator replacement." Replacement anti freeze? It sure wasn't Dex Cool. Larry (Z)
RE: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze
I wonder if this is why my heater core went south. Wish I had known this earlier.
RE: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze
Good article Bill. I guess I should switch back to green for the El Camino. It definitely does not have an aluminum radiator.
RE: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze
It definitely turns into sludge if you mix orange & green.
Re: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze
The orange is supposed to be 100,000 mile antifreeze it comes in most all your newer cars. I have a 2000 Impala and it had the dex.cool (the orange) in it and the dex cool turned to a sludgy type stuff. And also it started to turn the low coolant light on. I had it flushed and put the regular green antifreeze in it and it runs about 20 deg. cooler in the summer .The low coolant light has never came on since.By the way my Impala had only 40,000 miles on it when the antifreeze looked like sludge. Mark - Original Message - From: "John Nasta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 9:53 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze Is there really any known difference between orange vs. green anti-freeze (other than the color)? I have the El Camino using orange and the MR2 using green. I know you're not supposed to mix them. Just wondering if I should stick with one or the other. The green seems to be more commonly available. When my friend Rick & I built the EC engine we used orange just because it was what he had in his shop. He also gave me a spare gallon to take home. I was running straight water all summer because of my heater core leak causing fumes to enter the cabin. I have since bypassed the heater core and put more of the orange stuff in. John Nasta
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Thanks Bill, I learn something new everyday. Two of my old cars have copper/brass radiators, so much for being consistant. Looks like I'll be forced to keep both green and orange in the shop. Mike - Original Message - From: "Bill Lessenberry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/sub_care_sat/1272436.html -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/152 - Release Date: 10/31/2005
Re: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze
A+++ article. Saved me from making a big mistake. - Original Message - From: "Bill Lessenberry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze > http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/sub_care_sat/1272436.html >
Re: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze
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Re: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze
John, The orange was formulated to GM specs and is recommended by GM for late model engines. It has Dex Cool which I believe is similar to water wetter and supposed to cool somewhat better than the green. I have been told not to mix them. I have been using the orange in my old cars for years without problems. I have not heard of or had the problems Gene mentioned, but I can't say that the Or. is any better or worst than standard green anti freeze. It mainly ended up in my cars for consistancy purposes. Mike - Original Message - From: "Gene Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze Hi, My daily driver is a 96 Olds 88 which I bought with ''bad head gaskets'' but turned out to be a deteriorated plastic upper intake where coolant went thru it to cool the egr vapors. After talking to my mechanic buddies I found out the orange will attack plastic and gaskets alike and the only thing they put back in cars they do is the green stuff. Gene - Original Message - From: "John Nasta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:53 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze Is there really any known difference between orange vs. green anti-freeze (other than the color)? I have the El Camino using orange and the MR2 using green. I know you're not supposed to mix them. Just wondering if I should stick with one or the other. The green seems to be more commonly available. When my friend Rick & I built the EC engine we used orange just because it was what he had in his shop. He also gave me a spare gallon to take home. I was running straight water all summer because of my heater core leak causing fumes to enter the cabin. I have since bypassed the heater core and put more of the orange stuff in. John Nasta -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/152 - Release Date: 10/31/2005
Re: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze
Hi, My daily driver is a 96 Olds 88 which I bought with ''bad head gaskets'' but turned out to be a deteriorated plastic upper intake where coolant went thru it to cool the egr vapors. After talking to my mechanic buddies I found out the orange will attack plastic and gaskets alike and the only thing they put back in cars they do is the green stuff. Gene - Original Message - From: "John Nasta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:53 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze > Is there really any known difference between orange vs. green anti-freeze > (other than the color)? I have the El Camino using orange and the MR2 using > green. I know you're not supposed to mix them. Just wondering if I should > stick with one or the other. The green seems to be more commonly available. > When my friend Rick & I built the EC engine we used orange just because it > was what he had in his shop. He also gave me a spare gallon to take home. I > was running straight water all summer because of my heater core leak causing > fumes to enter the cabin. I have since bypassed the heater core and put more > of the orange stuff in. > > John Nasta > > >
[Chevelle-list] orange vs. green anti-freeze
Is there really any known difference between orange vs. green anti-freeze (other than the color)? I have the El Camino using orange and the MR2 using green. I know you're not supposed to mix them. Just wondering if I should stick with one or the other. The green seems to be more commonly available. When my friend Rick & I built the EC engine we used orange just because it was what he had in his shop. He also gave me a spare gallon to take home. I was running straight water all summer because of my heater core leak causing fumes to enter the cabin. I have since bypassed the heater core and put more of the orange stuff in. John Nasta