Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West upper A-arms for sale
Sale pending. Thanks for your inquiries. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino protourer http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm http://www.lateral-g.net/members/hooper/ "You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile of brass." - Original Message - From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Global West part # CTA-42A upper control arms with Del-a-lum bushings, > billet cross shafts, ball joints,and bump stops. GW sells these for $632.32 > + freight. Mine have less than 4K miles and are still in nice condition. > Will sell these for $500 shipped to your door. Only reason I'm selling them > is a new front suspension set-up with tall balljoints I have planned > requires a B-body style upper control arm. > I wanted to give you guys first crack at these arms before I advertise them > on Team Chevelle,Pro-Touring.com,etc. > Clint Hooper > H&H Custom,owner > 1969 El Camino protourer > http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm > http://www.lateral-g.net/members/hooper/ > "You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a > pile of brass." > >
RE: [Chevelle-list] Global West
Herb the Global arms are fantastic! I wish the service was the same. Some of the fault is mine. I should have opened the packages myself, but the mechanic said he would do it, and I assumed he did. I even asked him if all was well! Dan -Original Message- From: mike f [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:37 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Global West This sounds, to me, like growing pains. Global West, like Baer may have too much success. A situation we all would like to be busines owners of. lol mike --- Herb Lumpp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan, > > I've equipped my El with all GW stuff but never had > any issues with missing > parts/boxes. Maybe this was one of those things > that slipped through the > cracks and wasn't caught until you opened your > boxes. I guess the nice > thing is you didn't get any resistance from them and > got your parts in the > end. > > Herb Lumpp > http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Dan Mascheck > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:20 PM > To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net > Subject: [Chevelle-list] Global West > > > Has anyone had any problems with Global West? > November I bought a complete > Cat 5 system front to rear suspension for my 72 > Chevelle. Over 5 grand++. > They shipped the packages, and I have a mechanic I > work with on my car to > help install all the new stuff correctly. > Well...when they shipped the > boxes. I loaded it into the mechanics truck, he took > it home to his shop and > never opened the boxes like he said he would. All > this time I thought we had > everything.. > > We have been very busy for months. The mechanic > opened the boxes Monday and > noticed there were no spindles or brakes, everything > else was there. I > thought I was going to have a major problem talking > to Global West two > months later to find out what happened. > > I called yesterday, and they said oh yes it was all > shipped! After further > investigation, they found out there was a back order > on the spindles and > brakes, so..they sent them today! The big quiz > iswhy they never said > anything about the back order to me for two months. > The A arms are > phenomenally built. I am very happy with what I did > receive! > > I was really surprised about no notification. I > guess it was my fault for > not opening the boxes. Oh Well!! > > > Dan Mascheck > Wharton, TX > > > > > __ Yahoo! DSL - Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
RE: [Chevelle-list] Global West
This sounds, to me, like growing pains. Global West, like Baer may have too much success. A situation we all would like to be busines owners of. lol mike --- Herb Lumpp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan, > > I've equipped my El with all GW stuff but never had > any issues with missing > parts/boxes. Maybe this was one of those things > that slipped through the > cracks and wasn't caught until you opened your > boxes. I guess the nice > thing is you didn't get any resistance from them and > got your parts in the > end. > > Herb Lumpp > http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Dan Mascheck > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:20 PM > To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net > Subject: [Chevelle-list] Global West > > > Has anyone had any problems with Global West? > November I bought a complete > Cat 5 system front to rear suspension for my 72 > Chevelle. Over 5 grand++. > They shipped the packages, and I have a mechanic I > work with on my car to > help install all the new stuff correctly. > Well...when they shipped the > boxes. I loaded it into the mechanics truck, he took > it home to his shop and > never opened the boxes like he said he would. All > this time I thought we had > everything.. > > We have been very busy for months. The mechanic > opened the boxes Monday and > noticed there were no spindles or brakes, everything > else was there. I > thought I was going to have a major problem talking > to Global West two > months later to find out what happened. > > I called yesterday, and they said oh yes it was all > shipped! After further > investigation, they found out there was a back order > on the spindles and > brakes, so..they sent them today! The big quiz > iswhy they never said > anything about the back order to me for two months. > The A arms are > phenomenally built. I am very happy with what I did > receive! > > I was really surprised about no notification. I > guess it was my fault for > not opening the boxes. Oh Well!! > > > Dan Mascheck > Wharton, TX > > > > > __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
RE: [Chevelle-list] Global West
Dan, I've equipped my El with all GW stuff but never had any issues with missing parts/boxes. Maybe this was one of those things that slipped through the cracks and wasn't caught until you opened your boxes. I guess the nice thing is you didn't get any resistance from them and got your parts in the end. Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Mascheck Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:20 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Global West Has anyone had any problems with Global West? November I bought a complete Cat 5 system front to rear suspension for my 72 Chevelle. Over 5 grand++. They shipped the packages, and I have a mechanic I work with on my car to help install all the new stuff correctly. Well...when they shipped the boxes. I loaded it into the mechanics truck, he took it home to his shop and never opened the boxes like he said he would. All this time I thought we had everything.. We have been very busy for months. The mechanic opened the boxes Monday and noticed there were no spindles or brakes, everything else was there. I thought I was going to have a major problem talking to Global West two months later to find out what happened. I called yesterday, and they said oh yes it was all shipped! After further investigation, they found out there was a back order on the spindles and brakes, so..they sent them today! The big quiz iswhy they never said anything about the back order to me for two months. The A arms are phenomenally built. I am very happy with what I did receive! I was really surprised about no notification. I guess it was my fault for not opening the boxes. Oh Well!! Dan Mascheck Wharton, TX
Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West
Exactly!! I hope we all will learn from others' mistakes. I'm in the car repair business. I've figured out that the times you don't open the box immediately are always when the wrong parts are in the box. :-(( But how can you get $5K worth of Chevelle parts & not open it up?? That would be like Christmas all over again! :-) BillL I guess it was my fault for not opening the boxes.
RE: [Chevelle-list] Global West Catalog
I just bought their Cat 5 system. Talked to Doug Norton…great source of information and I think he does much of their R&D work!! It is a nice catalog!!! From: Kyle Bennett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 2:37 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] Global West Catalog Just wanted to let you all knowfor those of you that didn't. That global west has a new catalog wth lots of new stuff. I was talking to Joe there today about my 71 and he said he would send me a new catalog today...FREE. He even admitted that their website has not been updated in a long time and their catalog has a lot of new parts that are not even on the website. Just wanted to let yall knowbecause i didn't until today. Happy Holidays Kyle
RE: [Chevelle-list] Global West.
Clint, I don’t doubt BAER brakes are wonderful, and probably better than Wilwood, but the fact remains, the problem I had talking to a rep! I can understand one time, but three? I’ll go for service every time. BAER must be having some growing pains. If their business as you say they surely need to upgrade their tech staff. Apparently they have too few! I’ll check out the sites about suspension solutions. Thanks Clint! From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:23 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West. I was buying stuff from Hal Baer before they became famous. The only brake kits I've used that worked better were Alcon and Brembo,,at twice or triple the cost. If I had it to do over again,I would have used Wilwood's six piston set-up on the front of my car and the same Baer rear kit I'm using now. As I said in earlier posts,I like GW stuff. But,there are better systems available,IMO. Spend some time over at Lateral-G.net or Protouring.com and you will find some very sharp people over there that really know the ins & out of suspension design. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dan Mascheck Not doubt they have good stuff, but don’t underestimate all the publicity they are getting by Foose, Coddington and others on TV. It surely helps bring BAER to the front! Going back to the suspension issue…I looked at Fatman, Heidt’s and a few others, and the quality of their parts didn’t impress me! Global West has been around for some time, and Yes, I got a free, very helpful catalog right away, while nothing from BAER.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West.
I was buying stuff from Hal Baer before they became famous. The only brake kits I've used that worked better were Alcon and Brembo,,at twice or triple the cost. If I had it to do over again,I would have used Wilwood's six piston set-up on the front of my car and the same Baer rear kit I'm using now. As I said in earlier posts,I like GW stuff. But,there are better systems available,IMO. Spend some time over at Lateral-G.net or Protouring.com and you will find some very sharp people over there that really know the ins & out of suspension design. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dan Mascheck Not doubt they have good stuff, but dont underestimate all the publicity they are getting by Foose, Coddington and others on TV. It surely helps bring BAER to the front! Going back to the suspension issue I looked at Fatman, Heidts and a few others, and the quality of their parts didnt impress me! Global West has been around for some time, and Yes, I got a free, very helpful catalog right away, while nothing from BAER.
RE: [Chevelle-list] Global West.
Not doubt they have good stuff, but don’t underestimate all the publicity they are getting by Foose, Coddington and others on TV. It surely helps bring BAER to the front! Going back to the suspension issue…I looked at Fatman, Heidt’s and a few others, and the quality of their parts didn’t impress me! Global West has been around for some time, and Yes, I got a free, very helpful catalog right away, while nothing from BAER. From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:01 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West. I'll agree about the catalogs,Ron. I'm practically a Baer Wholesale/Distributor and can't get a catalog,either. The reason they're so backlogged is because Baer is selling kits like crazy. Good stuff is rarely available,quickly. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Ron Sparks Clint, the only problem I have with Baer's is that you can't be in a hurry to get them. They take forever (ok, well 6-8 weeks, but crap, that's like 1/3rd of the summer!). Hell it took me that long just to get a catalog. They use Road Catalog to sell their catalog ($5)...I bitched after 4 weeks and got 2 (one from Baer and one from RC). You'd think for that kind of money they get for kits they'd want to get it out to you faster. The dealer locator on their site is not accurate also. Listed my local AutoZone as an authorized dealer. You should had heard that call when I was looking for the rears.. I also thought they could had done a little better on the install directions. A little generic (the fronts were better then the rear). ...but there is no doubt in their quality. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 7:07 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West. Be more specific about lack of support,Dan. I've been dealing with Baer for many years and have had very few issues with them. Baer's PBR calipers were used on late model Corvettes,Camaros,and Cobra Mustangs. If you have a problem with them,your local auto parts dealer can take care of you. Try that with Wilwood,SSBC,or others. I don't have a problem with tall spindles that are optimized for A-body cars. B-body spindles weren't made for A-body cars and cause various problems like excessive bumpsteer,increased turn radius,etc. Do a search on B-body spindles on Team Chevelle and look for postings by Dennis68. He really knows his stuff about suspension set-ups. With your car's combination,any particular reason why you need an exotic suspension? Just curious. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dan Mascheck The only problem I have with Baer is their support stinks! I know they get the publicity on TV, they look great, but I can have 4 piston 12” Wilwoods for the price of a two piston Baer! Plus Wilwood has been great with their support! A good product with no support is a pain in the A**! What do you have against the taller spindles? .what problems have you observed or heard? Dan From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:11 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West. Just my opinion but here's who you need to talk to about a complete suspension system. Marcus knows his stuff and his parts really work like crazy. http://www.scandc.com/ I'm not a fan of B-body spindles. If you used Baer brakes,this wouldn't be a problem. Don't know why Wilwood are causing that. I didn't like my QA1 coilovers because they were too stiff & harsh. To be fair though,I was running BB springs. Air Ride Technology doesn't seem to want to stand behind the stuff they sold me. At this time,I cannot recommend them. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dan Mascheck Clint, I have been in touch with Global West about using all their parts for a complete front and rear suspension make over! It’s going to cost over $5000 for the top of the line fix(CAT 5) excluding labor. There has to be some work done on the 12 bolt. C clip eliminator installed and special press on Ford bearing in the diff and some special axles. Something about the 12 bolt not working correctly with the Wilwood 4 piston brakes! Does this sound correct to you? I w
RE: [Chevelle-list] Global West.
Clint, I have called Baer three times, and was put on hold from hell. One rep acted like he just woke up. I know it’s being picky, but while on hold they have nothing; no music, advertisements. It makes you feel like you may have been disconnected on the phone, but are not sure. One wait was close to 30 minutes. Yes, some times I can be tenacious waiting! They have a hell of a following on TV by Foose and others. And I’m sure they make a quality product, but damn…..three times a problem…that was enough. Even the girl answering the phone seemed like she didn’t care. I never had the problem with Wilwood. Baer may be better than Wilwood, but I’ll go for support every time. Doug with Global West, has been great to deal with. I know they are not cheap, but the quality is there. Doug does much of their R&D work. They handle Wilwood, but never said anything negative about Baer if you chose to use them instead. I have called Wilwood several times and have had a pleasant experience each call. Maybe I’m calling on the wrong day to Baer! Also using their dealer locator online SUCKS for my area! As far as the suspension goes: 1. I have the money from my incentive 2. It’s the next major upgrade to my car 3. I’m probably crazy!(GRIN) Clint while talking to a rep about my suspension upgrade. He said it would help, if I upgraded my steering to the 12:1 ratio from the 16:1 it has at present. I talked to one man that converts steering mechanisms, and he gave me the impression there was so little difference from 12:1 Vs 16:1. The suspension guy begs to differ! If I change my steering, whom do you recommend? Dan From: Ron Sparks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 11:34 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Global West. Clint, the only problem I have with Baer's is that you can't be in a hurry to get them. They take forever (ok, well 6-8 weeks, but crap, that's like 1/3rd of the summer!). Hell it took me that long just to get a catalog. They use Road Catalog to sell their catalog ($5)...I bitched after 4 weeks and got 2 (one from Baer and one from RC). You'd think for that kind of money they get for kits they'd want to get it out to you faster. The dealer locator on their site is not accurate also. Listed my local AutoZone as an authorized dealer. You should had heard that call when I was looking for the rears.. I also thought they could had done a little better on the install directions. A little generic (the fronts were better then the rear). ...but there is no doubt in their quality. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 7:07 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West. Be more specific about lack of support,Dan. I've been dealing with Baer for many years and have had very few issues with them. Baer's PBR calipers were used on late model Corvettes,Camaros,and Cobra Mustangs. If you have a problem with them,your local auto parts dealer can take care of you. Try that with Wilwood,SSBC,or others. I don't have a problem with tall spindles that are optimized for A-body cars. B-body spindles weren't made for A-body cars and cause various problems like excessive bumpsteer,increased turn radius,etc. Do a search on B-body spindles on Team Chevelle and look for postings by Dennis68. He really knows his stuff about suspension set-ups. With your car's combination,any particular reason why you need an exotic suspension? Just curious. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dan Mascheck The only problem I have with Baer is their support stinks! I know they get the publicity on TV, they look great, but I can have 4 piston 12” Wilwoods for the price of a two piston Baer! Plus Wilwood has been great with their support! A good product with no support is a pain in the A**! What do you have against the taller spindles? .what problems have you observed or heard? Dan From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:11 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West. Just my opinion but here's who you need to talk to about a complete suspension system. Marcus knows his stuff and his parts really work like crazy. http://www.scandc.com/ I'm not a fan of B-body spindles. If you used Baer brakes,this wouldn't be a problem. Don't know why Wilwood are causing that. I didn't like my QA1 coilovers because they were too stiff & harsh. To be fair though,I was running BB springs. Air Ride Technology doesn't seem to want to stand behind the stuff
Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West.
I'll agree about the catalogs,Ron. I'm practically
a Baer Wholesale/Distributor and can't get a catalog,either.
The reason they're so backlogged is because Baer is
selling kits like crazy. Good stuff is rarely available,quickly.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From:
Ron
Sparks
Clint, the only problem I have with Baer's is that you can't be in a
hurry to get them. They take forever (ok, well 6-8 weeks, but crap, that's
like 1/3rd of the summer!). Hell it took me that long just to get a catalog.
They use Road Catalog to sell their catalog ($5)...I bitched after 4
weeks and got 2 (one from Baer and one from RC). You'd think for that kind of
money they get for kits they'd want to get it out to you faster.
The dealer locator on their site is not accurate also. Listed my local
AutoZone as an authorized dealer. You should had heard that call when I was
looking for the rears..
I also thought they could had done a little better on the install
directions. A little generic (the fronts were better then the rear). ...but
there is no doubt in their quality.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint
HooperSent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 7:07 PMTo: The
Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Global
West.
Be more specific about lack of support,Dan. I've
been dealing with Baer for many years and have had very few issues with them.
Baer's PBR calipers were used on late model Corvettes,Camaros,and Cobra
Mustangs. If you have a problem with them,your local auto parts dealer can
take care of you. Try that with Wilwood,SSBC,or others.
I don't have a problem with tall spindles that
are optimized for A-body cars. B-body spindles weren't made for A-body cars
and cause various problems like excessive bumpsteer,increased turn radius,etc.
Do a search on B-body spindles on Team Chevelle and look for postings by
Dennis68. He really knows his stuff about suspension set-ups.
With your car's combination,any particular reason
why you need an exotic suspension? Just curious.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From:
Dan
Mascheck
The
only problem I have with Baer is their support stinks! I know they get the
publicity on TV, they look great, but I can have 4 piston 12 Wilwoods for
the price of a two piston Baer! Plus Wilwood has been great with their
support! A good product with no support is a pain in the
A**!
What
do you have against the taller spindles? .what problems have you observed or
heard?
Dan
From: Clint
Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:11
AMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Global
West.
Just my opinion but here's who
you need to talk to about a complete suspension system. Marcus knows
his stuff and his parts really work like crazy. http://www.scandc.com/
I'm not a fan of B-body spindles.
If you used Baer brakes,this
wouldn't be a problem. Don't know why Wilwood are causing
that.
I didn't like my QA1 coilovers
because they were too stiff & harsh. To be fair though,I was running BB
springs.
Air Ride Technology doesn't seem
to want to stand behind the stuff they sold me. At this time,I cannot
recommend them.
Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El
Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From: Dan
Mascheck
Clint,
I have been in touch with Global West about using all their parts for a
complete front and rear suspension make over! Its going to cost over
$5000 for the top of the line fix(CAT 5) excluding labor.
There
has to be some work done on the 12 bolt. C clip eliminator installed and
special press on Ford bearing in the diff and some special axles.
Something about the 12 bolt not working correctly with the Wilwood 4
piston brakes! Does this sound correct to you? I wish I would have known
all this before I rebuilt the 12 bolt!
I
will use the taller spindles. They say it only lowers the car 1,
which
.I think I can live with that. I wouldnt want to go lower! I am
going standard suspension, not coil overs. They see
RE: [Chevelle-list] Global West.
Clint, the only problem I have with Baer's is that you can't be in a hurry to get them. They take forever (ok, well 6-8 weeks, but crap, that's like 1/3rd of the summer!). Hell it took me that long just to get a catalog. They use Road Catalog to sell their catalog ($5)...I bitched after 4 weeks and got 2 (one from Baer and one from RC). You'd think for that kind of money they get for kits they'd want to get it out to you faster. The dealer locator on their site is not accurate also. Listed my local AutoZone as an authorized dealer. You should had heard that call when I was looking for the rears.. I also thought they could had done a little better on the install directions. A little generic (the fronts were better then the rear). ...but there is no doubt in their quality. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint HooperSent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 7:07 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West. Be more specific about lack of support,Dan. I've been dealing with Baer for many years and have had very few issues with them. Baer's PBR calipers were used on late model Corvettes,Camaros,and Cobra Mustangs. If you have a problem with them,your local auto parts dealer can take care of you. Try that with Wilwood,SSBC,or others. I don't have a problem with tall spindles that are optimized for A-body cars. B-body spindles weren't made for A-body cars and cause various problems like excessive bumpsteer,increased turn radius,etc. Do a search on B-body spindles on Team Chevelle and look for postings by Dennis68. He really knows his stuff about suspension set-ups. With your car's combination,any particular reason why you need an exotic suspension? Just curious. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dan Mascheck The only problem I have with Baer is their support stinks! I know they get the publicity on TV, they look great, but I can have 4 piston 12” Wilwoods for the price of a two piston Baer! Plus Wilwood has been great with their support! A good product with no support is a pain in the A**! What do you have against the taller spindles? .what problems have you observed or heard? Dan From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:11 AMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West. Just my opinion but here's who you need to talk to about a complete suspension system. Marcus knows his stuff and his parts really work like crazy. http://www.scandc.com/ I'm not a fan of B-body spindles. If you used Baer brakes,this wouldn't be a problem. Don't know why Wilwood are causing that. I didn't like my QA1 coilovers because they were too stiff & harsh. To be fair though,I was running BB springs. Air Ride Technology doesn't seem to want to stand behind the stuff they sold me. At this time,I cannot recommend them. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dan Mascheck Clint, I have been in touch with Global West about using all their parts for a complete front and rear suspension make over! It’s going to cost over $5000 for the top of the line fix(CAT 5) excluding labor. There has to be some work done on the 12 bolt. C clip eliminator installed and special press on Ford bearing in the diff and some special axles. Something about the 12 bolt not working correctly with the Wilwood 4 piston brakes! Does this sound correct to you? I wish I would have known all this before I rebuilt the 12 bolt! I will use the taller spindles. They say it only lowers the car 1”, which….I think I can live with that. I wouldn’t want to go lower! I am going standard suspension, not coil overs. They seem to be a little negative about the QA1 coil overs. They like the dual adj. Shocks, it’s their springs they don’t like, although they substitute their own springs for QA1’s. They say they are too soft! What did you pay for your air ride suspension? Any advice? Would I be better going with a shockwave system? Cheaper? From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:37 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Sanderson Headers I can't comment on how they will fit individual years but they were an easy install on my 68
Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West.
Be more specific about lack of support,Dan. I've been dealing with Baer for many years and have had very few issues with them. Baer's PBR calipers were used on late model Corvettes,Camaros,and Cobra Mustangs. If you have a problem with them,your local auto parts dealer can take care of you. Try that with Wilwood,SSBC,or others. I don't have a problem with tall spindles that are optimized for A-body cars. B-body spindles weren't made for A-body cars and cause various problems like excessive bumpsteer,increased turn radius,etc. Do a search on B-body spindles on Team Chevelle and look for postings by Dennis68. He really knows his stuff about suspension set-ups. With your car's combination,any particular reason why you need an exotic suspension? Just curious. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dan Mascheck The only problem I have with Baer is their support stinks! I know they get the publicity on TV, they look great, but I can have 4 piston 12 Wilwoods for the price of a two piston Baer! Plus Wilwood has been great with their support! A good product with no support is a pain in the A**! What do you have against the taller spindles? .what problems have you observed or heard? Dan From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:11 AMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West. Just my opinion but here's who you need to talk to about a complete suspension system. Marcus knows his stuff and his parts really work like crazy. http://www.scandc.com/ I'm not a fan of B-body spindles. If you used Baer brakes,this wouldn't be a problem. Don't know why Wilwood are causing that. I didn't like my QA1 coilovers because they were too stiff & harsh. To be fair though,I was running BB springs. Air Ride Technology doesn't seem to want to stand behind the stuff they sold me. At this time,I cannot recommend them. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dan Mascheck Clint, I have been in touch with Global West about using all their parts for a complete front and rear suspension make over! Its going to cost over $5000 for the top of the line fix(CAT 5) excluding labor. There has to be some work done on the 12 bolt. C clip eliminator installed and special press on Ford bearing in the diff and some special axles. Something about the 12 bolt not working correctly with the Wilwood 4 piston brakes! Does this sound correct to you? I wish I would have known all this before I rebuilt the 12 bolt! I will use the taller spindles. They say it only lowers the car 1, which .I think I can live with that. I wouldnt want to go lower! I am going standard suspension, not coil overs. They seem to be a little negative about the QA1 coil overs. They like the dual adj. Shocks, its their springs they dont like, although they substitute their own springs for QA1s. They say they are too soft! What did you pay for your air ride suspension? Any advice? Would I be better going with a shockwave system? Cheaper? From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:37 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Sanderson Headers I can't comment on how they will fit individual years but they were an easy install on my 68 El Camino w/BBC. They are shorter than a long-tube header (the collectors end at the bottom of the firewall) and their tube size is 1 7/8" (instead of 2" or 2 1/8" like my long tubes). If your car has a SBC,they will practically fall on. Yes,I liked the ball-joint collector flanges much better than the three-point flanges,too. Hedman and Patriot also make intermediate headers for our cars but they won't clear the Z-bar on manual trans A-bodies. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Jimmy C. Clint, do you know or hear how they (the sandersons) fit the 72 chevelle ? height is not an issue for me. and I like the look of the flanges under the car. but want to avoid dinging the pi
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I’ve heard too many complaints on QA1’s, although many were related to the springs! The only problem I have with Baer is their support stinks! I know they get the publicity on TV, they look great, but I can have 4 piston 12” Wilwoods for the price of a two piston Baer! Plus Wilwood has been great with their support! A good product with no support is a pain in the A**! What do you have against the taller spindles? .what problems have you observed or heard? Dan From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:11 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Global West. Just my opinion but here's who you need to talk to about a complete suspension system. Marcus knows his stuff and his parts really work like crazy. http://www.scandc.com/ I'm not a fan of B-body spindles. If you used Baer brakes,this wouldn't be a problem. Don't know why Wilwood are causing that. I didn't like my QA1 coilovers because they were too stiff & harsh. To be fair though,I was running BB springs. Air Ride Technology doesn't seem to want to stand behind the stuff they sold me. At this time,I cannot recommend them. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dan Mascheck Clint, I have been in touch with Global West about using all their parts for a complete front and rear suspension make over! It’s going to cost over $5000 for the top of the line fix(CAT 5) excluding labor. There has to be some work done on the 12 bolt. C clip eliminator installed and special press on Ford bearing in the diff and some special axles. Something about the 12 bolt not working correctly with the Wilwood 4 piston brakes! Does this sound correct to you? I wish I would have known all this before I rebuilt the 12 bolt! I will use the taller spindles. They say it only lowers the car 1”, which….I think I can live with that. I wouldn’t want to go lower! I am going standard suspension, not coil overs. They seem to be a little negative about the QA1 coil overs. They like the dual adj. Shocks, it’s their springs they don’t like, although they substitute their own springs for QA1’s. They say they are too soft! What did you pay for your air ride suspension? Any advice? Would I be better going with a shockwave system? Cheaper? From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:37 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Sanderson Headers I can't comment on how they will fit individual years but they were an easy install on my 68 El Camino w/BBC. They are shorter than a long-tube header (the collectors end at the bottom of the firewall) and their tube size is 1 7/8" (instead of 2" or 2 1/8" like my long tubes). If your car has a SBC,they will practically fall on. Yes,I liked the ball-joint collector flanges much better than the three-point flanges,too. Hedman and Patriot also make intermediate headers for our cars but they won't clear the Z-bar on manual trans A-bodies. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Jimmy C. Clint, do you know or hear how they (the sandersons) fit the 72 chevelle ? height is not an issue for me. and I like the look of the flanges under the car. but want to avoid dinging the pipes and painless installation would be nice too. any suggestions? thanks , Jimmy.C - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse To: Chevelle List Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Sanderson Headers Hey Clint, I bought a set of Sanderson's BB3 headers for my 66. With my engine almost complete now, I attached the headers to see how they fit. As you know, the driver's side is real short and drops straight down, whereas the passenger side is much longer and doesn't drop nearly as quickly. From your memory, how close does the passenger side collector get to the firewall? And do you recall any heat or clearance issues? Thanks, Larry Shouse
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Thanks, doesn’t hurt to look! From: Ringlein Thomas J Capt 40 ELRF/CC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 11:01 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Global West. Personally, if I was going to spend that much money on a suspension system, I would go to Hot Rods to Hell and get one of their truckarm setups. I was looking hard at their rear truckarm suspension, but could not justify the $2300. Really, those setups make your Chevelle scream. Google “Hot Rods to Hell Truckarm” and see what comes up (I forget the website). Rinkys From: Dan Mascheck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 7:56 AM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: [Chevelle-list] Global West. Clint, I have been in touch with Global West about using all their parts for a complete front and rear suspension make over! It’s going to cost over $5000 for the top of the line fix(CAT 5) excluding labor. There has to be some work done on the 12 bolt. C clip eliminator installed and special press on Ford bearing in the diff and some special axles. Something about the 12 bolt not working correctly with the Wilwood 4 piston brakes! Does this sound correct to you? I wish I would have known all this before I rebuilt the 12 bolt! I will use the taller spindles. They say it only lowers the car 1”, which….I think I can live with that. I wouldn’t want to go lower! I am going standard suspension, not coil overs. They seem to be a little negative about the QA1 coil overs. They like the dual adj. Shocks, it’s their springs they don’t like, although they substitute their own springs for QA1’s. They say they are too soft! What did you pay for your air ride suspension? Any advice? Would I be better going with a shockwave system? Cheaper? From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:37 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Sanderson Headers I can't comment on how they will fit individual years but they were an easy install on my 68 El Camino w/BBC. They are shorter than a long-tube header (the collectors end at the bottom of the firewall) and their tube size is 1 7/8" (instead of 2" or 2 1/8" like my long tubes). If your car has a SBC,they will practically fall on. Yes,I liked the ball-joint collector flanges much better than the three-point flanges,too. Hedman and Patriot also make intermediate headers for our cars but they won't clear the Z-bar on manual trans A-bodies. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Jimmy C. Clint, do you know or hear how they (the sandersons) fit the 72 chevelle ? height is not an issue for me. and I like the look of the flanges under the car. but want to avoid dinging the pipes and painless installation would be nice too. any suggestions? thanks , Jimmy.C - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse To: Chevelle List Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Sanderson Headers Hey Clint, I bought a set of Sanderson's BB3 headers for my 66. With my engine almost complete now, I attached the headers to see how they fit. As you know, the driver's side is real short and drops straight down, whereas the passenger side is much longer and doesn't drop nearly as quickly. From your memory, how close does the passenger side collector get to the firewall? And do you recall any heat or clearance issues? Thanks, Larry Shouse
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Personally, if I was going to spend that much money on a suspension system, I would go to Hot Rods to Hell and get one of their truckarm setups. I was looking hard at their rear truckarm suspension, but could not justify the $2300. Really, those setups make your Chevelle scream. Google “Hot Rods to Hell Truckarm” and see what comes up (I forget the website). Rinkys From: Dan Mascheck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 7:56 AM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: [Chevelle-list] Global West. Clint, I have been in touch with Global West about using all their parts for a complete front and rear suspension make over! It’s going to cost over $5000 for the top of the line fix(CAT 5) excluding labor. There has to be some work done on the 12 bolt. C clip eliminator installed and special press on Ford bearing in the diff and some special axles. Something about the 12 bolt not working correctly with the Wilwood 4 piston brakes! Does this sound correct to you? I wish I would have known all this before I rebuilt the 12 bolt! I will use the taller spindles. They say it only lowers the car 1”, which….I think I can live with that. I wouldn’t want to go lower! I am going standard suspension, not coil overs. They seem to be a little negative about the QA1 coil overs. They like the dual adj. Shocks, it’s their springs they don’t like, although they substitute their own springs for QA1’s. They say they are too soft! What did you pay for your air ride suspension? Any advice? Would I be better going with a shockwave system? Cheaper? From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:37 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Sanderson Headers I can't comment on how they will fit individual years but they were an easy install on my 68 El Camino w/BBC. They are shorter than a long-tube header (the collectors end at the bottom of the firewall) and their tube size is 1 7/8" (instead of 2" or 2 1/8" like my long tubes). If your car has a SBC,they will practically fall on. Yes,I liked the ball-joint collector flanges much better than the three-point flanges,too. Hedman and Patriot also make intermediate headers for our cars but they won't clear the Z-bar on manual trans A-bodies. Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Jimmy C. Clint, do you know or hear how they (the sandersons) fit the 72 chevelle ? height is not an issue for me. and I like the look of the flanges under the car. but want to avoid dinging the pipes and painless installation would be nice too. any suggestions? thanks , Jimmy.C - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse To: Chevelle List Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Sanderson Headers Hey Clint, I bought a set of Sanderson's BB3 headers for my 66. With my engine almost complete now, I attached the headers to see how they fit. As you know, the driver's side is real short and drops straight down, whereas the passenger side is much longer and doesn't drop nearly as quickly. From your memory, how close does the passenger side collector get to the firewall? And do you recall any heat or clearance issues? Thanks, Larry Shouse
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Just my opinion but here's who you need to talk to about a complete suspension system. Marcus knows his stuff and his parts really work like crazy. http://www.scandc.com/ I'm not a fan of B-body spindles. If you used Baer brakes,this wouldn't be a problem. Don't know why Wilwood are causing that. I didn't like my QA1 coilovers because they were too stiff & harsh. To be fair though,I was running BB springs. Air Ride Technology doesn't seem to want to stand behind the stuff they sold me. At this time,I cannot recommend them. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dan Mascheck Clint, I have been in touch with Global West about using all their parts for a complete front and rear suspension make over! Its going to cost over $5000 for the top of the line fix(CAT 5) excluding labor. There has to be some work done on the 12 bolt. C clip eliminator installed and special press on Ford bearing in the diff and some special axles. Something about the 12 bolt not working correctly with the Wilwood 4 piston brakes! Does this sound correct to you? I wish I would have known all this before I rebuilt the 12 bolt! I will use the taller spindles. They say it only lowers the car 1, which .I think I can live with that. I wouldnt want to go lower! I am going standard suspension, not coil overs. They seem to be a little negative about the QA1 coil overs. They like the dual adj. Shocks, its their springs they dont like, although they substitute their own springs for QA1s. They say they are too soft! What did you pay for your air ride suspension? Any advice? Would I be better going with a shockwave system? Cheaper? From: Clint Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:37 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Sanderson Headers I can't comment on how they will fit individual years but they were an easy install on my 68 El Camino w/BBC. They are shorter than a long-tube header (the collectors end at the bottom of the firewall) and their tube size is 1 7/8" (instead of 2" or 2 1/8" like my long tubes). If your car has a SBC,they will practically fall on. Yes,I liked the ball-joint collector flanges much better than the three-point flanges,too. Hedman and Patriot also make intermediate headers for our cars but they won't clear the Z-bar on manual trans A-bodies. Clint HooperH&H Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Jimmy C. Clint, do you know or hear how they (the sandersons) fit the 72 chevelle ? height is not an issue for me. and I like the look of the flanges under the car. but want to avoid dinging the pipes and painless installation would be nice too. any suggestions? thanks , Jimmy.C - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse To: Chevelle List Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Sanderson Headers Hey Clint, I bought a set of Sanderson's BB3 headers for my 66. With my engine almost complete now, I attached the headers to see how they fit. As you know, the driver's side is real short and drops straight down, whereas the passenger side is much longer and doesn't drop nearly as quickly. From your memory, how close does the passenger side collector get to the firewall? And do you recall any heat or clearance issues? Thanks, Larry Shouse
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Hi everybody, Global west have released gen 2 upper control arms for our beautiful cars. Check them out on www.globalwest.net André > Also - don't forget to order the A3 & A6 wheel bearings & grease seals when y ou order the rotors. > -- "rick schaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > From: rick schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Chevelle-List] Andre > Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 03:04:29 GMT > > Your restoration package is in the mail. 2-3 day air is $54.00 > > The part number for 1LE rotors is: 18016035 I got mine from www.expr essautoparts.com I just checked & the price went up to $90.00 for wagne r or bendix brand. I paid less than 70, last fall. Shipping to me was pretty high, good luck on overseas shipping. www.advanceautoparts.com h as bendix for $77.00 BTW, application is 91 Z28 Camaro with 1 LE brake package. > > I haven't forgotten about measuring the GW upper control arms. I'll t ry to measure them tomorrow. Have you seen this web page? http://home. att.net/~thereineckes/Chevelle/Html/Brakes.html > > Finally - Hope you don't think your getting the Restoration Pkg in 2- 3 days :D Slow boat is about 4 weeks. > rick > > > rick schaefer > 72 El camino > http://www.endrud.net/elcamino/rick1972elky.html > ACES #00140 > Team Chevelle #00038 > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > rick schaefer > 72 El camino > http://www.endrud.net/elcamino/rick1972elky.html > ACES #00140 > Team Chevelle #00038 > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I was told you can use square tube to box in lowwer control arms. Let me know I am gettong ready to do this job myself and if advised otherwise yhis is the way I am going to do it. Mark Green 67 SS Under Resto > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >if you can weld, they sell a kit from opg for 20.00 to box in the lower >control arms. >i was thinking of getting this kit, any one know if its ok, does it work?? > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List if you can weld, they sell a kit from opg for 20.00 to box in the lower control arms. i was thinking of getting this kit, any one know if its ok, does it work?? - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List try a place called South Side Machine @ 330-669-3556. they seem to have alot of suspension goodies. H - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I used the GW 12" brake kit on my 71. I also have the PST kit with squeaky poly bushings... Besides the squeaking, I love the setup. My car handles great. I don't race it or anything, but it handles great everytime some jerk pulls out in front of me and I have to swerve to avoid her... e I mean 'them' hehe I haven't done anything to the rear suspension, but just doing the front suspension is a night and day difference. Btw, I used TRW springs on the front, not the ones from GW, but only because I had just bought and installed the front springs before I did the front disc brakes from GW. Rodney. 71 Chevelle Phoenix, AZ - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Global West rear trailing arm > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > Brad, > I just love hearing good things about the global west set up. I bought > and installed the whole set up including the 12" brakes, tubular upper > control arms, rear tubular lowers, del a lum bushings front and rear and I am > using an AGR steering box. The pieces are in my 65 elky which is not yet > finished. I`m using a 383 small block w. 700R4, 3.31 posi rear and can barely > stand it until it`s finished. I have to keep telling myself to take my time. > I would love to hear more about chevelles using the global west setup > particularly about handling impressions and experiances. Can you share more? > Anyone else? Please I`m dying here. thanx, bob Myers > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Brad, I just love hearing good things about the global west set up. I bought and installed the whole set up including the 12" brakes, tubular upper control arms, rear tubular lowers, del a lum bushings front and rear and I am using an AGR steering box. The pieces are in my 65 elky which is not yet finished. I`m using a 383 small block w. 700R4, 3.31 posi rear and can barely stand it until it`s finished. I have to keep telling myself to take my time. I would love to hear more about chevelles using the global west setup particularly about handling impressions and experiances. Can you share more? Anyone else? Please I`m dying here. thanx, bob Myers - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Ishee > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Global West rear trailing arm > > Herb, > Have you done any test to you car to see just how well it handles > without the rear sway bar and aftermarket upper control arms. > Thanks > Michael I can't speak for Herb (and his car likely has not seen much high performance driving quite yet), but I have had my Chevelle in extreme situations with the full GW setup. I have the full negative roll front end (tubular arms, 11" F-body brakes, beefy springs (maybe the big block or race springs), 1 1/8 sway bar, and Koni adjustable shocks; and in back I have my 1967 untouched springs and upper arms along with GW lower tubular arm and Koni shocks. I've been at Willow Springs race track with the Chevelle and the car felt great. A very slight understeer, but fixable with the gas pedal. I did a self timed lap and got 1:48, which is an 83 mph average. Speeds in Turn 2 (a high speed right hand sweeper) work out to 1.03G average (470 foot radius, 85-90 mph through the turn). Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle| ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Global West rear trailing arm
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Michael, I've got a '67 SS427 I used boxed rear control arms from FTM Parts the business owner (Bobby is his name) was a member on the previous Chevelle list, I haven't seen him post anything on this list. From what I understand he manufactured them as well as other parts. They are really good quailty and reasonably priced. I've had them on my car almost an year now and no problems. I also used Addco sway bars (front and rear) those changes alone made a night and day difference in the way the car handles. Anyway here's there contact information if your interested: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 336-946-2684 Contact name: Bobby John 67 SS427 Michael Ishee wrote: > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > Does anyone know if global west offers both the lower and upper rear > trailing arms or just the lower. I have a '69 Chevelle should that matter. > Thanks > Michael > > _ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Global West rear trailing arm
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Herb, Have you done any test to you car to see just how well it handles without the rear sway bar and aftermarket upper control arms. Thanks Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Herbert Lumpp Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 5:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Global West rear trailing arm Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List GW does not offer upper rear control arms. When I bought the heavy duty lowers (the ones with the heim joints), the salesman said leave the stock uppers in place as long as the rubber bushings are in good condition and don't worry about boxing them (I boxed them anyway). He went on to say the lowers are the ones that take all the abuse and the uppers are basically there to keep the pinion angle and rear end located properly and I didn't need a rear sway bar with the Negative Roll front suspension. We'll see... cYa- Herb Lumpp 1966 El Camino ACES #3509 http://web.tampabay.rr.com/herbsworld/index.htm - Original Message - From: "Brad Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 5:47 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Global West rear trailing arm > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > I recall that they had both, and the upper is really only needed if you > plan to drag race. I did not find the uppers on their Web site, and I > don't have catalogs here at work. But I do recall that they said I did > not need the uppers (or new springs) when I did the rear for street/road > course setup. > > Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > '66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs > '67 Chevelle| ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > > Michael Ishee > > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 2:07 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [Chevelle-List] Global West rear trailing arm > > > > > > > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > > > > Does anyone know if global west offers both the lower and upper rear > > trailing arms or just the lower. I have a '69 Chevelle > > should that matter. > > Thanks > > Michael - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Global West rear trailing arm
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List GW does not offer upper rear control arms. When I bought the heavy duty lowers (the ones with the heim joints), the salesman said leave the stock uppers in place as long as the rubber bushings are in good condition and don't worry about boxing them (I boxed them anyway). He went on to say the lowers are the ones that take all the abuse and the uppers are basically there to keep the pinion angle and rear end located properly and I didn't need a rear sway bar with the Negative Roll front suspension. We'll see... cYa- Herb Lumpp 1966 El Camino ACES #3509 http://web.tampabay.rr.com/herbsworld/index.htm - Original Message - From: "Brad Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 5:47 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Global West rear trailing arm > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > I recall that they had both, and the upper is really only needed if you > plan to drag race. I did not find the uppers on their Web site, and I > don't have catalogs here at work. But I do recall that they said I did > not need the uppers (or new springs) when I did the rear for street/road > course setup. > > Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > '66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs > '67 Chevelle| ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > > Michael Ishee > > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 2:07 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [Chevelle-List] Global West rear trailing arm > > > > > > > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > > > > Does anyone know if global west offers both the lower and upper rear > > trailing arms or just the lower. I have a '69 Chevelle > > should that matter. > > Thanks > > Michael - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Global West rear trailing arm
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Are you sure you are talking about the upper arms? The lower ones are the ones usually boxed (for use with a sway bar) and the upper arms are short little arms to locate the rear axle and adjust the pinion angle. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle| ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > Michael Ishee > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 3:45 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Global West rear trailing arm > > > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > Well I will be buying new uppers simply so they will be boxed off and > replace the current bushings although I know you can do that > separately. > For anyone interested in the pro-touring setup I recommend > you check out > this site: www.g-machines.com. This is a great site with a message > board and a lot of helpful information when it comes to > suspension among > other things. You will find that the site is geared mostly towards > Camaros however there a several Chevelles on the board. > Michael > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > Brad Waller > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:47 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Global West rear trailing arm > > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > I recall that they had both, and the upper is really only > needed if you > plan to drag race. I did not find the uppers on their Web site, and I > don't have catalogs here at work. But I do recall that they > said I did > not need the uppers (or new springs) when I did the rear for > street/road > course setup. > > Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > '66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | > 245/45/16 BFGs > '67 Chevelle| ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > > Michael Ishee > > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 2:07 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [Chevelle-List] Global West rear trailing arm > > > > > > > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > > > > Does anyone know if global west offers both the lower and upper rear > > trailing arms or just the lower. I have a '69 Chevelle > > should that matter. > > Thanks > > Michael > > > > _ > > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Global West rear trailing arm
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Well I will be buying new uppers simply so they will be boxed off and replace the current bushings although I know you can do that separately. For anyone interested in the pro-touring setup I recommend you check out this site: www.g-machines.com. This is a great site with a message board and a lot of helpful information when it comes to suspension among other things. You will find that the site is geared mostly towards Camaros however there a several Chevelles on the board. Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brad Waller Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Global West rear trailing arm Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I recall that they had both, and the upper is really only needed if you plan to drag race. I did not find the uppers on their Web site, and I don't have catalogs here at work. But I do recall that they said I did not need the uppers (or new springs) when I did the rear for street/road course setup. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle| ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > Michael Ishee > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 2:07 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Chevelle-List] Global West rear trailing arm > > > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > Does anyone know if global west offers both the lower and upper rear > trailing arms or just the lower. I have a '69 Chevelle > should that matter. > Thanks > Michael > > _ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Global West rear trailing arm
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I recall that they had both, and the upper is really only needed if you plan to drag race. I did not find the uppers on their Web site, and I don't have catalogs here at work. But I do recall that they said I did not need the uppers (or new springs) when I did the rear for street/road course setup. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle| ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > Michael Ishee > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 2:07 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Chevelle-List] Global West rear trailing arm > > > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > Does anyone know if global west offers both the lower and upper rear > trailing arms or just the lower. I have a '69 Chevelle > should that matter. > Thanks > Michael > > _ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Global west conversion -Long
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List jerry Dave Reineke is who you are refering to. He helped me a bunch with part #'s & general info. E-mail him & I'm sure that he can give you the number. OR you can go to www.expressautoparts.com Enter the info for your year and go to the steering/suspension area. I saw the MOOG Problem Solver Offset Shafts listed there. Cost was about $38-40.00 each side. If there is anything that I can help with, let me know. rick On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 19:41:29 -0400 jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Rick, were you following the thread on TC where (cant remember his >name) did the 12 inch conversion without >using the GW arms? His setup supposedly aligned OK, even with out >them. >I like that idea, (-$$$)so I have been collecting parts to try it out. >I just cant seem to find a part # for the moog >offset shaft. > >jerry > > >8/27/01 7:27:08 PM, rick schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >>Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List >> >> >>rodney >> No I didn't use their springs. Mine were replaced the first time >I >>rebuilt the front end, I will ask my alignment guy if the springs >will >>make a difference. I should probably also call GW and ask an >opinion. >>Your theory makes sense. >>rick >> >>On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:07:46 -0700 "Rodney." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>writes: >>> >>>Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List >>> >>> >>>Hey Rick, >>> >>>I'm just curious if you used their front springs with the >conversion? >>>I'm>assuming you didn't because I think their springs lower the car >>>another inch>for a 2" total drop. I was wondering if this may have >>something to do >with>not being able to achieve their alignment >specs? >>When did the >>>conversion on>mine, I didn't use their springs (I had just bought >new >>springs 6 >>>months>before), and I couldn't get their alignment specs either. >The >>shop I >>>had>mine at didn't mention a sagging frame or anything though. >>> >>>Anyways, I was just curious if you or anyone else knew if this would > >>>be a>contributing factor? >>> >>>Rodney. >>>71 Chevelle >>>Phoenix, AZ >>> >>> >>> >>>- Original Message - >>>From: "rick schaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 1:16 PM >>>Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Global west conversion -Long >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List >>>> >>>> >>>>My conversion/rebuild is finished (??-more on that later). To >>>> update- , I installed Global West upper control arms with tall >>>spindles & >>>> 12" brake rotors on my 1972 el camino. It took quite a bit >longer >>>to >>>> finish than I expected, but what doesn't.I am very happy with >>>the >>>> results. >>>> I haven't had a chance to really wiring it out, but in general >>>> handling is much better. I can easily go 60 mph thru a curve that > >>>was >>>> white knuckle time at 50mph before. (Maybe the worn front end >parts >>>had >>>> something to do with this.) And the car remains flat thru the >turn. >>>> It goes where pointed and stops much better than the stock discs. >>>> >>>>The spindles dropped the front end 1" on each side (I measured >b4 >>>& >>>> after). Also the wheel/tire is about 3/8 of an inch (measured >with >>>> wheels straight ahead) closer to the fender than before. I have >>>lost a >>>> little in turning radius. With a Monte Carlo SS box, the >diameter >>>of >>>> the tightest circle I can make is ABOUT 37 feet ( for some strange > >>>reason >>>> it is a bit tighter going to th
Re: [Chevelle-List] Global west conversion -Long
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List The GM Chassis service manual I have calls for no more than 1/2" of shim pack. I believe that it goes into the whys and wherefors, but I don't have the book available. rick On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:27:36 -0700 "Rodney." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >He gets good alignment as in he's not gonna crash and he goes fairly >straight, or he gets good alignment and the correct geometry for the >negative roll system? > >Just so you know, as I'm sure you've probably already guessed, GW >doesn't >recommend using the stock arms since it would take so many shims to >make a >correct alignment. Question for any alignment specialists out there: >Are >there any disadvantages or safety issues of using over a certain >number of >shims? Do they flex or anything when you get that many shims in a >stack >like that? Just curious... I already have the tubular arms, so it's >not >like I'm gonna send 'em back :) > >Rodney. >71 Chevelle >Phoenix, AZ > >- Original Message - >From: "jerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 4:41 PM >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Global west conversion -Long > > >> >> Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List >> >> >> Rick, were you following the thread on TC where (cant remember his >name) >did the 12 inch conversion without >> using the GW arms? His setup supposedly aligned OK, even with out >them. >> I like that idea, (-$$$)so I have been collecting parts to try it >out. I >just cant seem to find a part # for the moog >> offset shaft. >> >> jerry >> >> >> 8/27/01 7:27:08 PM, rick schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > >> >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List >> > >> > >> >rodney >> > No I didn't use their springs. Mine were replaced the first >time I >> >rebuilt the front end, I will ask my alignment guy if the springs >will >> >make a difference. I should probably also call GW and ask an >opinion. >> >Your theory makes sense. >> >rick >> > >> >On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:07:46 -0700 "Rodney." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >writes: >> >> >> >>Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List >> >> >> >> >> >>Hey Rick, >> >> >> >>I'm just curious if you used their front springs with the >conversion? >> >>I'm>assuming you didn't because I think their springs lower the >car >> >>another inch>for a 2" total drop. I was wondering if this may >have >> >something to do >with>not being able to achieve their alignment >specs? >> >When did the >> >>conversion on>mine, I didn't use their springs (I had just bought >new >> >springs 6 >> >>months>before), and I couldn't get their alignment specs either. >The >> >shop I >> >>had>mine at didn't mention a sagging frame or anything though. >> >> >> >>Anyways, I was just curious if you or anyone else knew if this >would >> >>be a>contributing factor? >> >> >> >>Rodney. >> >>71 Chevelle >> >>Phoenix, AZ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>- Original Message - >> >>From: "rick schaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 1:16 PM >> >>Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Global west conversion -Long >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>My conversion/rebuild is finished (??-more on that later). >To >> >>> update- , I installed Global West upper control arms with tall >> >>spindles & >> >>> 12" brake rotors on
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List He gets good alignment as in he's not gonna crash and he goes fairly straight, or he gets good alignment and the correct geometry for the negative roll system? Just so you know, as I'm sure you've probably already guessed, GW doesn't recommend using the stock arms since it would take so many shims to make a correct alignment. Question for any alignment specialists out there: Are there any disadvantages or safety issues of using over a certain number of shims? Do they flex or anything when you get that many shims in a stack like that? Just curious... I already have the tubular arms, so it's not like I'm gonna send 'em back :) Rodney. 71 Chevelle Phoenix, AZ - Original Message - From: "jerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Global west conversion -Long > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > Rick, were you following the thread on TC where (cant remember his name) did the 12 inch conversion without > using the GW arms? His setup supposedly aligned OK, even with out them. > I like that idea, (-$$$)so I have been collecting parts to try it out. I just cant seem to find a part # for the moog > offset shaft. > > jerry > > > 8/27/01 7:27:08 PM, rick schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > > > >rodney > > No I didn't use their springs. Mine were replaced the first time I > >rebuilt the front end, I will ask my alignment guy if the springs will > >make a difference. I should probably also call GW and ask an opinion. > >Your theory makes sense. > >rick > > > >On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:07:46 -0700 "Rodney." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >writes: > >> > >>Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > >> > >> > >>Hey Rick, > >> > >>I'm just curious if you used their front springs with the conversion? > >>I'm>assuming you didn't because I think their springs lower the car > >>another inch>for a 2" total drop. I was wondering if this may have > >something to do >with>not being able to achieve their alignment specs? > >When did the > >>conversion on>mine, I didn't use their springs (I had just bought new > >springs 6 > >>months>before), and I couldn't get their alignment specs either. The > >shop I > >>had>mine at didn't mention a sagging frame or anything though. > >> > >>Anyways, I was just curious if you or anyone else knew if this would > >>be a>contributing factor? > >> > >>Rodney. > >>71 Chevelle > >>Phoenix, AZ > >> > >> > >> > >>- Original Message - > >>From: "rick schaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 1:16 PM > >>Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Global west conversion -Long > >> > >> > >>> > >>> Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > >>> > >>> > >>>My conversion/rebuild is finished (??-more on that later). To > >>> update- , I installed Global West upper control arms with tall > >>spindles & > >>> 12" brake rotors on my 1972 el camino. It took quite a bit longer > >>to > >>> finish than I expected, but what doesn't.I am very happy with > >>the > >>> results. > >>> I haven't had a chance to really wiring it out, but in general > >>> handling is much better. I can easily go 60 mph thru a curve that > >>was > >>> white knuckle time at 50mph before. (Maybe the worn front end parts > >>had > >>> something to do with this.) And the car remains flat thru the turn. > >>> It goes where pointed and stops much better than the stock discs. > >>> > >>>The spindles dropped the front end 1" on each side (I measured b4 > >>& > >>> after). Also the wheel/tire is about 3/8 of an inch (measured
Re: [Chevelle-List] Global west conversion -Long
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Rick, were you following the thread on TC where (cant remember his name) did the 12 inch conversion without using the GW arms? His setup supposedly aligned OK, even with out them. I like that idea, (-$$$)so I have been collecting parts to try it out. I just cant seem to find a part # for the moog offset shaft. jerry 8/27/01 7:27:08 PM, rick schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >rodney > No I didn't use their springs. Mine were replaced the first time I >rebuilt the front end, I will ask my alignment guy if the springs will >make a difference. I should probably also call GW and ask an opinion. >Your theory makes sense. >rick > >On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:07:46 -0700 "Rodney." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >writes: >> >>Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List >> >> >>Hey Rick, >> >>I'm just curious if you used their front springs with the conversion? >>I'm>assuming you didn't because I think their springs lower the car >>another inch>for a 2" total drop. I was wondering if this may have >something to do >with>not being able to achieve their alignment specs? >When did the >>conversion on>mine, I didn't use their springs (I had just bought new >springs 6 >>months>before), and I couldn't get their alignment specs either. The >shop I >>had>mine at didn't mention a sagging frame or anything though. >> >>Anyways, I was just curious if you or anyone else knew if this would >>be a>contributing factor? >> >>Rodney. >>71 Chevelle >>Phoenix, AZ >> >> >> >>- Original Message - >>From: "rick schaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 1:16 PM >>Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Global west conversion -Long >> >> >>> >>> Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List >>> >>> >>>My conversion/rebuild is finished (??-more on that later). To >>> update- , I installed Global West upper control arms with tall >>spindles & >>> 12" brake rotors on my 1972 el camino. It took quite a bit longer >>to >>> finish than I expected, but what doesn't.I am very happy with >>the >>> results. >>> I haven't had a chance to really wiring it out, but in general >>> handling is much better. I can easily go 60 mph thru a curve that >>was >>> white knuckle time at 50mph before. (Maybe the worn front end parts >>had >>> something to do with this.) And the car remains flat thru the turn. >>> It goes where pointed and stops much better than the stock discs. >>> >>>The spindles dropped the front end 1" on each side (I measured b4 >>& >>> after). Also the wheel/tire is about 3/8 of an inch (measured with >>> wheels straight ahead) closer to the fender than before. I have >>lost a >>> little in turning radius. With a Monte Carlo SS box, the diameter >>of >>> the tightest circle I can make is ABOUT 37 feet ( for some strange >>reason >>> it is a bit tighter going to the left than to the right) . Before, >>the >>> diameter was about 36 feet. Not much, but I can definitly tell >>the >>> difference when turning into a tight spot. >>> >>> Special tools - Tie rod & ball joint pullers- I couldn't make >>pickle >>> forks work for me & the pullers were cheap (harbor freight $5.00 >>each), >>> INNER spring compressor - I didn't need it for disassembly but had >>to >>> have it for reassembly (harbor freight $14.00) 27mm socket for the >>> spindle nut. Air tools are so much nicer during disassembly. >>> >>> Time - Disassembly was about 3.5 hours. >>> Reassembly was about 14 hours. >>> I only worked on it 1-2 hours per day. Includes doing several >>things >>> over, and working for an hour or 2 (TRYING to reinstall springs) >>and NOT >>> really accomplishing a thing. Does not include chassis degreasing >>& >>> paint of new part
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List rodney No I didn't use their springs. Mine were replaced the first time I rebuilt the front end, I will ask my alignment guy if the springs will make a difference. I should probably also call GW and ask an opinion. Your theory makes sense. rick On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:07:46 -0700 "Rodney." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Hey Rick, > >I'm just curious if you used their front springs with the conversion? >I'm>assuming you didn't because I think their springs lower the car >another inch>for a 2" total drop. I was wondering if this may have something to do >with>not being able to achieve their alignment specs? When did the >conversion on>mine, I didn't use their springs (I had just bought new springs 6 >months>before), and I couldn't get their alignment specs either. The shop I >had>mine at didn't mention a sagging frame or anything though. > >Anyways, I was just curious if you or anyone else knew if this would >be a>contributing factor? > >Rodney. >71 Chevelle >Phoenix, AZ > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "rick schaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 1:16 PM >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Global west conversion -Long > > >> >> Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List >> >> >>My conversion/rebuild is finished (??-more on that later). To >> update- , I installed Global West upper control arms with tall >spindles & >> 12" brake rotors on my 1972 el camino. It took quite a bit longer >to >> finish than I expected, but what doesn't.I am very happy with >the >> results. >> I haven't had a chance to really wiring it out, but in general >> handling is much better. I can easily go 60 mph thru a curve that >was >> white knuckle time at 50mph before. (Maybe the worn front end parts >had >> something to do with this.) And the car remains flat thru the turn. >> It goes where pointed and stops much better than the stock discs. >> >>The spindles dropped the front end 1" on each side (I measured b4 >& >> after). Also the wheel/tire is about 3/8 of an inch (measured with >> wheels straight ahead) closer to the fender than before. I have >lost a >> little in turning radius. With a Monte Carlo SS box, the diameter >of >> the tightest circle I can make is ABOUT 37 feet ( for some strange >reason >> it is a bit tighter going to the left than to the right) . Before, >the >> diameter was about 36 feet. Not much, but I can definitly tell >the >> difference when turning into a tight spot. >> >> Special tools - Tie rod & ball joint pullers- I couldn't make >pickle >> forks work for me & the pullers were cheap (harbor freight $5.00 >each), >> INNER spring compressor - I didn't need it for disassembly but had >to >> have it for reassembly (harbor freight $14.00) 27mm socket for the >> spindle nut. Air tools are so much nicer during disassembly. >> >> Time - Disassembly was about 3.5 hours. >> Reassembly was about 14 hours. >> I only worked on it 1-2 hours per day. Includes doing several >things >> over, and working for an hour or 2 (TRYING to reinstall springs) >and NOT >> really accomplishing a thing. Does not include chassis degreasing >& >> paint of new parts or installlation of bushings & ball joints. >> >> Parts - I used spindles from an 86 Caprice Estate wagon, calipers & >> hoses from an 80 Camaro. Stock 72 calipers WILL bolt up to the >spindles >> & probably would work. Stock hoses are too short.They need to be >about 1 >> 1/2 inch longer. I could not make a full (stop to stop) turn with >the >> stock hoses. The camaro hoses are the right length, BUT do not lock >into >> the 72 frame brackets correctly. The 72 bracket is too thick. I >looked >> at many different hoses, but could not find any that had the correct >> length & would clip into the bracket.Next trip to the wrecking >yard >> I'll retrieve some thinner brackets. >> >> THE BAD NEWS - My frame is sagging. The alignment shop could >not >> get the car
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Hey Rick, I'm just curious if you used their front springs with the conversion? I'm assuming you didn't because I think their springs lower the car another inch for a 2" total drop. I was wondering if this may have something to do with not being able to achieve their alignment specs? When did the conversion on mine, I didn't use their springs (I had just bought new springs 6 months before), and I couldn't get their alignment specs either. The shop I had mine at didn't mention a sagging frame or anything though. Anyways, I was just curious if you or anyone else knew if this would be a contributing factor? Rodney. 71 Chevelle Phoenix, AZ - Original Message - From: "rick schaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Global west conversion -Long > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >My conversion/rebuild is finished (??-more on that later). To > update- , I installed Global West upper control arms with tall spindles & > 12" brake rotors on my 1972 el camino. It took quite a bit longer to > finish than I expected, but what doesn't.I am very happy with the > results. > I haven't had a chance to really wiring it out, but in general > handling is much better. I can easily go 60 mph thru a curve that was > white knuckle time at 50mph before. (Maybe the worn front end parts had > something to do with this.) And the car remains flat thru the turn. > It goes where pointed and stops much better than the stock discs. > >The spindles dropped the front end 1" on each side (I measured b4 & > after). Also the wheel/tire is about 3/8 of an inch (measured with > wheels straight ahead) closer to the fender than before. I have lost a > little in turning radius. With a Monte Carlo SS box, the diameter of > the tightest circle I can make is ABOUT 37 feet ( for some strange reason > it is a bit tighter going to the left than to the right) . Before, the > diameter was about 36 feet. Not much, but I can definitly tell the > difference when turning into a tight spot. > > Special tools - Tie rod & ball joint pullers- I couldn't make pickle > forks work for me & the pullers were cheap (harbor freight $5.00 each), > INNER spring compressor - I didn't need it for disassembly but had to > have it for reassembly (harbor freight $14.00) 27mm socket for the > spindle nut. Air tools are so much nicer during disassembly. > > Time - Disassembly was about 3.5 hours. > Reassembly was about 14 hours. > I only worked on it 1-2 hours per day. Includes doing several things > over, and working for an hour or 2 (TRYING to reinstall springs) and NOT > really accomplishing a thing. Does not include chassis degreasing & > paint of new parts or installlation of bushings & ball joints. > > Parts - I used spindles from an 86 Caprice Estate wagon, calipers & > hoses from an 80 Camaro. Stock 72 calipers WILL bolt up to the spindles > & probably would work. Stock hoses are too short.They need to be about 1 > 1/2 inch longer. I could not make a full (stop to stop) turn with the > stock hoses. The camaro hoses are the right length, BUT do not lock into > the 72 frame brackets correctly. The 72 bracket is too thick. I looked > at many different hoses, but could not find any that had the correct > length & would clip into the bracket.Next trip to the wrecking yard > I'll retrieve some thinner brackets. > > THE BAD NEWS - My frame is sagging. The alignment shop could not > get the car into specs recommended by Global West. The best they could > do on camber is -1 degree on each side. It still runs OK, but I will > have tire wear problems until I get the frame pushed out (Anyone know > what that costs?) . The frame will have to wait, as its gonna take me a > while to pay off the rebuild parts. > I was aware that some frames sag but thought that my 120,000 mile > never really molested/wrecked elky would be immune. Wrong!My nickels > worth, if you are gonna invest in a costly long term restoration, get > the frame checked early. Just think of it as another long term > investment. >If anyone has questions, fire away. > >Last thing - I definitly do NOT like the downhil look. I need to > drop the back end about an inch. Does anyone have suggestions on > springs? I'd prefer MOOG or TRW but let me know what works. > > rick (Abil
Re: [Chevelle-List] Global west conversion -Long
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List My conversion/rebuild is finished (??-more on that later). To update- , I installed Global West upper control arms with tall spindles & 12" brake rotors on my 1972 el camino. It took quite a bit longer to finish than I expected, but what doesn't.I am very happy with the results. I haven't had a chance to really wiring it out, but in general handling is much better. I can easily go 60 mph thru a curve that was white knuckle time at 50mph before. (Maybe the worn front end parts had something to do with this.) And the car remains flat thru the turn. It goes where pointed and stops much better than the stock discs. The spindles dropped the front end 1" on each side (I measured b4 & after). Also the wheel/tire is about 3/8 of an inch (measured with wheels straight ahead) closer to the fender than before. I have lost a little in turning radius. With a Monte Carlo SS box, the diameter of the tightest circle I can make is ABOUT 37 feet ( for some strange reason it is a bit tighter going to the left than to the right) . Before, the diameter was about 36 feet. Not much, but I can definitly tell the difference when turning into a tight spot. Special tools - Tie rod & ball joint pullers- I couldn't make pickle forks work for me & the pullers were cheap (harbor freight $5.00 each), INNER spring compressor - I didn't need it for disassembly but had to have it for reassembly (harbor freight $14.00) 27mm socket for the spindle nut. Air tools are so much nicer during disassembly. Time - Disassembly was about 3.5 hours. Reassembly was about 14 hours. I only worked on it 1-2 hours per day. Includes doing several things over, and working for an hour or 2 (TRYING to reinstall springs) and NOT really accomplishing a thing. Does not include chassis degreasing & paint of new parts or installlation of bushings & ball joints. Parts - I used spindles from an 86 Caprice Estate wagon, calipers & hoses from an 80 Camaro. Stock 72 calipers WILL bolt up to the spindles & probably would work. Stock hoses are too short.They need to be about 1 1/2 inch longer. I could not make a full (stop to stop) turn with the stock hoses. The camaro hoses are the right length, BUT do not lock into the 72 frame brackets correctly. The 72 bracket is too thick. I looked at many different hoses, but could not find any that had the correct length & would clip into the bracket.Next trip to the wrecking yard I'll retrieve some thinner brackets. THE BAD NEWS - My frame is sagging. The alignment shop could not get the car into specs recommended by Global West. The best they could do on camber is -1 degree on each side. It still runs OK, but I will have tire wear problems until I get the frame pushed out (Anyone know what that costs?) . The frame will have to wait, as its gonna take me a while to pay off the rebuild parts. I was aware that some frames sag but thought that my 120,000 mile never really molested/wrecked elky would be immune. Wrong!My nickels worth, if you are gonna invest in a costly long term restoration, get the frame checked early. Just think of it as another long term investment. If anyone has questions, fire away. Last thing - I definitly do NOT like the downhil look. I need to drop the back end about an inch. Does anyone have suggestions on springs? I'd prefer MOOG or TRW but let me know what works. rick (Abilene Texas) 72 El Camino TPI 350/700r4 ACES #00140 TEAM CHEVELLE #00038 http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Fine Rick, let us know. André --- richard a schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing > List > > > My portion has been finished since Friday. I've been > waiting to take it > in for an alignment. The shop I use was backed up with > work. I'm > leaving in 10 minutes to drop it off. I will be posting > a couple of > lessons learned. > rick > > On Thu, 23 Aug 2001 14:37:30 +0200 (CEST) > =?iso-8859-1?q?Tigergutt?= > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle > Mailing List > > > > > > > Rick, > > > > have you done everything ?? > > How does it work > > > > André > > > > --- rick schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle > Mailing > > > List > > > > > > > > > > > > Andre > > > You are so right. I have it all bolted together > today > > > and it is stiff. > > > It is still off the ground (no wheels) and it feels > > > pretty tight. I > > > think thats good. Tomorrow is calipers & bleeding. > > > Thursday - > > > alignment -HOT D#$N!!! > > > rick > > > On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 16:49:12 +0200 (CEST) > > > =?iso-8859-1?q?Tigergutt?= > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle > Mailing > > > List > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >HI Rick, > > > > > > > >It sounds OK to me, as long as you can move it by > hand > > > with > > > >no bind there should be no problems. > > > >When you grease it all up and connect the steering > and > > > >stuff it should be really hard (lot of effort)to > move > > > from > > > >stop to stop. > > > > > > > >André > > > > > > > > > > > >--- rick schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev: > > > > >> Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle > > > Mailing > > > >> List > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> Group - I installed the spindles for my tall > spindle > > > >> conversion this AM. > > > >> I torqued the lower ball joint to 85 lbs and the > > > upper > > > >> to 55 IAW the 72 > > > >> Factory Assembly manual. No tie rod ends > connected > > > yet. > > > >> It takes "A > > > >> BIT" of effort to move the spindles (both sides) > from > > > >> stop to stop. > > > >> There really isn't any binding, its just pretty > stiff. > > > > > > >> For those of you > > > >> with some experience does this seem right? > Subjective > > > I > > > >> know. I don't > > > >> want to ruin it right off the bat. Thx for any > input. > > > >> > > > >> rick (Abilene Texas) > > > >> 72 El Camino TPI 350/700r4 > > > >> ACES #00140 TEAM CHEVELLE #00038 > > > >> http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html > > > >> http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L > > > >> > > > >> > - > > > >> To Unsubscribe please visit > > > www.chevelles.net/list.html > > > >> To start a new topic, send mail to: > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > >= > > > >André > > > > > > > > >__ > > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > > >Organiser sammenkomsten på > http://no.invites.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > >- > > > >To Unsubscribe please visit > www.chevelles.net/list.html > > > >To start a new topic, send mail to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > > > To Unsubscribe please visit > www.chevelles.net/list.html > > > To start a new topic, send mail to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > = > > André > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Organiser sammenkomsten på http://no.invites.yahoo.com > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = André __ Do You Yahoo!? Organiser sammenkomsten på http://no.invites.yahoo.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List My portion has been finished since Friday. I've been waiting to take it in for an alignment. The shop I use was backed up with work. I'm leaving in 10 minutes to drop it off. I will be posting a couple of lessons learned. rick On Thu, 23 Aug 2001 14:37:30 +0200 (CEST) =?iso-8859-1?q?Tigergutt?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > > Rick, > > have you done everything ?? > How does it work > > André > > --- rick schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing > > List > > > > > > > Andre > > You are so right. I have it all bolted together today > > and it is stiff. > > It is still off the ground (no wheels) and it feels > > pretty tight. I > > think thats good. Tomorrow is calipers & bleeding. > > Thursday - > > alignment -HOT D#$N!!! > > rick > > On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 16:49:12 +0200 (CEST) > > =?iso-8859-1?q?Tigergutt?= > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing > > List > > > > > > > > > >HI Rick, > > > > > >It sounds OK to me, as long as you can move it by hand > > with > > >no bind there should be no problems. > > >When you grease it all up and connect the steering and > > >stuff it should be really hard (lot of effort)to move > > from > > >stop to stop. > > > > > >André > > > > > > > > >--- rick schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev: > > > >> Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle > > Mailing > > >> List > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> Group - I installed the spindles for my tall spindle > > >> conversion this AM. > > >> I torqued the lower ball joint to 85 lbs and the > > upper > > >> to 55 IAW the 72 > > >> Factory Assembly manual. No tie rod ends connected > > yet. > > >> It takes "A > > >> BIT" of effort to move the spindles (both sides) from > > >> stop to stop. > > >> There really isn't any binding, its just pretty stiff. > > > > >> For those of you > > >> with some experience does this seem right? Subjective > > I > > >> know. I don't > > >> want to ruin it right off the bat. Thx for any input. > > >> > > >> rick (Abilene Texas) > > >> 72 El Camino TPI 350/700r4 > > >> ACES #00140 TEAM CHEVELLE #00038 > > >> http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html > > >> http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L > > >> > > >> - > > >> To Unsubscribe please visit > > www.chevelles.net/list.html > > >> To start a new topic, send mail to: > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > >= > > >André > > > > > >__ > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > >Organiser sammenkomsten på http://no.invites.yahoo.com > > > > > >- > > >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > >To start a new topic, send mail to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > > To start a new topic, send mail to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > = > André > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Organiser sammenkomsten på http://no.invites.yahoo.com > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Rick, have you done everything ?? How does it work André --- rick schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing > List > > > Andre > You are so right. I have it all bolted together today > and it is stiff. > It is still off the ground (no wheels) and it feels > pretty tight. I > think thats good. Tomorrow is calipers & bleeding. > Thursday - > alignment -HOT D#$N!!! > rick > On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 16:49:12 +0200 (CEST) > =?iso-8859-1?q?Tigergutt?= > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing > List > > > > > >HI Rick, > > > >It sounds OK to me, as long as you can move it by hand > with > >no bind there should be no problems. > >When you grease it all up and connect the steering and > >stuff it should be really hard (lot of effort)to move > from > >stop to stop. > > > >André > > > > > >--- rick schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev: > > >> Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle > Mailing > >> List > >> > > > >> > >> Group - I installed the spindles for my tall spindle > >> conversion this AM. > >> I torqued the lower ball joint to 85 lbs and the > upper > >> to 55 IAW the 72 > >> Factory Assembly manual. No tie rod ends connected > yet. > >> It takes "A > >> BIT" of effort to move the spindles (both sides) from > >> stop to stop. > >> There really isn't any binding, its just pretty stiff. > > >> For those of you > >> with some experience does this seem right? Subjective > I > >> know. I don't > >> want to ruin it right off the bat. Thx for any input. > >> > >> rick (Abilene Texas) > >> 72 El Camino TPI 350/700r4 > >> ACES #00140 TEAM CHEVELLE #00038 > >> http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html > >> http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L > >> > >> - > >> To Unsubscribe please visit > www.chevelles.net/list.html > >> To start a new topic, send mail to: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >= > >André > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Organiser sammenkomsten på http://no.invites.yahoo.com > > > >- > >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > >To start a new topic, send mail to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = André __ Do You Yahoo!? Organiser sammenkomsten på http://no.invites.yahoo.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Andre You are so right. I have it all bolted together today and it is stiff. It is still off the ground (no wheels) and it feels pretty tight. I think thats good. Tomorrow is calipers & bleeding. Thursday - alignment -HOT D#$N!!! rick On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 16:49:12 +0200 (CEST) =?iso-8859-1?q?Tigergutt?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >HI Rick, > >It sounds OK to me, as long as you can move it by hand with >no bind there should be no problems. >When you grease it all up and connect the steering and >stuff it should be really hard (lot of effort)to move from >stop to stop. > >André > > >--- rick schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev: > >> Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing >> List >> > >> >> Group - I installed the spindles for my tall spindle >> conversion this AM. >> I torqued the lower ball joint to 85 lbs and the upper >> to 55 IAW the 72 >> Factory Assembly manual. No tie rod ends connected yet. >> It takes "A >> BIT" of effort to move the spindles (both sides) from >> stop to stop. >> There really isn't any binding, its just pretty stiff. >> For those of you >> with some experience does this seem right? Subjective I >> know. I don't >> want to ruin it right off the bat. Thx for any input. >> >> rick (Abilene Texas) >> 72 El Camino TPI 350/700r4 >> ACES #00140 TEAM CHEVELLE #00038 >> http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html >> http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L >> >> - >> To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >> To start a new topic, send mail to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >= >André > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Organiser sammenkomsten på http://no.invites.yahoo.com > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Rick, When you are finished we need a really detailed seat of the pants description of what it is like to drive now. I have the complete Global West suspension complete with koni shocks waiting to go in my 65 el camino. I`m dying to hear what the handling is like. My wife drives a 95 cadillac seville STS with the sport suspension, That car handles great, but my hope is that the elky will be superior. Please fill us in. bob Myers NC
Re: [Chevelle-List] Global west conversion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List HI Rick, It sounds OK to me, as long as you can move it by hand with no bind there should be no problems. When you grease it all up and connect the steering and stuff it should be really hard (lot of effort)to move from stop to stop. André --- rick schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev: > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing > List > > > Group - I installed the spindles for my tall spindle > conversion this AM. > I torqued the lower ball joint to 85 lbs and the upper > to 55 IAW the 72 > Factory Assembly manual. No tie rod ends connected yet. > It takes "A > BIT" of effort to move the spindles (both sides) from > stop to stop. > There really isn't any binding, its just pretty stiff. > For those of you > with some experience does this seem right? Subjective I > know. I don't > want to ruin it right off the bat. Thx for any input. > > rick (Abilene Texas) > 72 El Camino TPI 350/700r4 > ACES #00140 TEAM CHEVELLE #00038 > http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html > http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = André __ Do You Yahoo!? Organiser sammenkomsten på http://no.invites.yahoo.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Global west conversion
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Group - I installed the spindles for my tall spindle conversion this AM. I torqued the lower ball joint to 85 lbs and the upper to 55 IAW the 72 Factory Assembly manual. No tie rod ends connected yet. It takes "A BIT" of effort to move the spindles (both sides) from stop to stop. There really isn't any binding, its just pretty stiff. For those of you with some experience does this seem right? Subjective I know. I don't want to ruin it right off the bat. Thx for any input. rick (Abilene Texas) 72 El Camino TPI 350/700r4 ACES #00140 TEAM CHEVELLE #00038 http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: [Chevelle-List] Global West A-Arms
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List jeff PRY OFF my brand new shiny perfect cap - OH NO! Thanx I guess that I can do that :) Sounds like you have experience with this. I may be hollerin for help in the future ;) rick -Original Message- From: "JeffK"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri Jun 29 20:36:53 PDT 2001 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Global West A-Arms > >Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >Hey Rick, > >That's only a cap, made from aluminum with an o-ring around it for tension >to hold it in place. >Just pry it out and you shall see a grease fitting. > >JeffK ACES #1510 >Team Chevelle Gold #72 >http://www.72chevelle.com > > >- Original Message - >From: "richard a schaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 10:03 PM >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Global West A-Arms > > >> >> Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List >> >> >>I finally got around to opening the box. They are Nice! Well >> constructed and nicely finished. I didn't look at them too closely - >> gotta get to bed soon- But 1 question: >> >> The upper ball joint is already inserted in the a-arm. It does NOT >> have a grease fitting. Any comments on this? The shaft end of the >> a-arms does have grease fittings.Just wonderin. >> >>BTW - I ordered them (ultimate kit) thru National Parts Depot and >> they were about $100. cheaper than on GW web site. >> rick schaefer >> http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.htm >> http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L >> >> - >> To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >> To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > >- >To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html >To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Global West A-Arms
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List Hey Rick, That's only a cap, made from aluminum with an o-ring around it for tension to hold it in place. Just pry it out and you shall see a grease fitting. JeffK ACES #1510 Team Chevelle Gold #72 http://www.72chevelle.com - Original Message - From: "richard a schaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Global West A-Arms > > Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List > > >I finally got around to opening the box. They are Nice! Well > constructed and nicely finished. I didn't look at them too closely - > gotta get to bed soon- But 1 question: > > The upper ball joint is already inserted in the a-arm. It does NOT > have a grease fitting. Any comments on this? The shaft end of the > a-arms does have grease fittings.Just wonderin. > >BTW - I ordered them (ultimate kit) thru National Parts Depot and > they were about $100. cheaper than on GW web site. > rick schaefer > http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.htm > http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Global West A-Arms
Replies to this message are sent to The Chevelle Mailing List I finally got around to opening the box. They are Nice! Well constructed and nicely finished. I didn't look at them too closely - gotta get to bed soon- But 1 question: The upper ball joint is already inserted in the a-arm. It does NOT have a grease fitting. Any comments on this? The shaft end of the a-arms does have grease fittings.Just wonderin. BTW - I ordered them (ultimate kit) thru National Parts Depot and they were about $100. cheaper than on GW web site. rick schaefer http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.htm http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
