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Kent: it would not open after I downloaded it. Larry 9z)
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Kent: I never heard of one myself. Do you know the engine code? Larry (z)
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kent i too would want a copy Larry (z)
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Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... Wasn't that one of the two Terry brought to CB a couple of years ago? That one and the "Dan Blocker" Z-16? Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com As for the Z-16 proto, Floyd sold it a while back, and it's now in the possession of Terry Gunter down in Atlanta. Lotsa "experimental" and early production trim pieces on that one! Cool car... even cooler than other Z-16s because of its "early" build status. Unfortunately, it's not in the museum anymore so seeing it in person is not as "easy" as it was a few years ago.Chuck
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Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... on 7/30/02 11:54 PM, Kent Lewis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chuck Well that sure sounds like the same car. And yes I do believe the article came from a copy of Chevy High Performance, not sure on the date though (still have not found the article). But you covered it rather well. It's neat to hear that you have actually looked at the car and the build sheet. From the photo in the article it would be difficult to distinguish a real vs. fake buildsheet. And as you say Just because something appears in print, it isn't automatically gospel. Having said that, I will add that there is more to the story on the fiberglass cowl hood. This same gentleman from Texas was able to locate the manufacturer of the special hood. Apparently the company was/is still in business, and in fact still had a number of these hoods in storage. He purchased the last 3 (?) hoods that they had. Now, about the LS6 w/aluminum head option. Once again, I am going to use my encyclopedia of car facts/fiction and say that I recall a letter that was written to a magazine wanting to know what the engine code was that was stamped on his block. The response was something to the effect of Your not going to believe this, but we looked up that code and it deciphers out as an LS6 w/aluminum heads ! We were not aware that engine even existed. Anyone care to look up the engine codes ? Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) ACES #5102 You don't happen to recall the engine code for this application, do you, Kent? After researching my sources I'm unable to come up with any codes that indicate an LS6 w/aluminum heads. I did, however, come up with: CKP=396/375, alum heads w/TH400; CKT=396/375, alum heads w/4spd; CKU=396/375, alum heads w/HD clutch Interestingly, one of my research sources includes all the suffix codes for engines built at the Tonawanda engine assembly plant and included in the list were suffixes for the '71 Chevelle LS-6, which most Chevelle enthusiasts agree was never produced. The codes are: CPZ for 4spd applications, and CPY for TH400 applications. According to this information, there were four CPZ engines built and ten CPY engines built. Were they ever installed in actual production cars? That's a point of considerable conjecture on both sides of the table. I don't think they were... It's my feeling that if there were potentially fourteen Chevelles built with this engine, certainly one of them would have withstood the ravages of time and surfaced by now. But, with evidence that at least the engines were produced, there may still be a remote chance that one eventually may see the light of day. Of course, the much-discussed Z-16 convertible may have been built, too. But to this point there's not even one acceptable shred of evidence to substantiate its existence. And the debate continues to this day... Interesting point you make about the hood. When I discussed it with the owner of the car in Lubbock, he stated that it was the only one he knew of, and hadn't had any success tracking down the manufacturer. Apparently that situation has changed since my conversation with him. Where did your info come from, and who can I contact to find out more about these fiberglass CI hoods? With the quality that went into them, I felt like they may have been an engineering feasibility study, and were constructed by some Detroit-based proto shop for GM/Chevrolet. If I recall, the hood would even accept the stainless moulding that is attached to the edge of the hood nearest the windshield. This is usually something that most aftermarket hood manufacturers don't concern themselves with. They would, however, if it was part of the engineering spec given to them by GM. Again, these are just my personal observations, and not hard facts. I'd love to have one of those hoods... so I could install it on my '70 L89 convertible when/if I ever come across one!!! Surely there's gotta be one stuck out there in a barn somewhere! Chuck
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Hey Tom, yes i beleive the year was 1948, Real nice car thanks for update I did watch the movie on the tucker Preston Tucker Ken D 72HCC
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Larry, Did you receive the attachment I sent you ? Not sure it was sent correctly. Let me know. Once I get it working correctly, I will let this "list" know. Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) ACES #5102
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Chad: I'll only tell you about the ones i know. 1) z16- there is report of approximately 65 known to still exist (65 odd huh) 3) there were plenty of LS5 / try an LS6 convert I've heard 18-25) or a L 89 (aluminum head 396 convert less than 10) 4) Yenkos are all rare 5) there was no L 89 or 88 65 chevelle z16 was the only big block and they made 6,021 with the L 79 6) the rest i don't care about Larry (z)
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L 88 were 427 aluminum head put in late 67 vettes and L 89 were in 69-70 CHEVELLES. Some may have made it in other cars. the ZL1 Camaro would be a fun one to have. Larry (z)
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Yes, Chad is right on the LS5 being rarer than the LS6 but my books says 4,298 LS5. Also I myself have seen several CRR code LS6 automatic (454/450 auto). Larry (z)
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Kelly, try the link below André http://home.online.no/~bjarnli/troll/index.html Guys, you have probably never heard of Troll, the only norwegian car ever built (except the electric ones). You got that rightgot any pics of it? Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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How are you supposed to read this? It's all a foriegn language... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:31 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... Kelly, try the link below André http://home.online.no/~bjarnli/troll/index.html Guys, you have probably never heard of Troll, the only norwegian car ever built (except the electric ones). You got that rightgot any pics of it? Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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try the link below Suicide doors huh? Interesting car, thanks for the link. Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com
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Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... on 7/30/02 4:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Chad is right on the LS5 being rarer than the LS6 but my books says 4,298 LS5. Also I myself have seen several CRR code LS6 automatic (454/450 auto). Larry (z) Here's one that a lot of people forget about when they're talking rare Chevelles... How about the '70 L89 (aluminum head, 375hp 396), of which there were only 18 built? In all my years of foolin' with Chevelles, I've never seen one in person. Seen plenty of Z-16s, More LS6 cars than were probably ever really built, and even a handful of '67 L78 cars (612 built). Shoot, even the '69 Ss with the L89 option is pretty rare... 400 units built. Yet another Chevelle oddity is the '66 fitted with the M22 Muncie four-speed... 12 built. Seen a couple of those. I'm still holding out for the '70 L89 Chevelle as one of the rarest ever built! Chuck
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Never heard of a L88 Chevelle built at the factory. L89 I have heard of in 68 and 69. When you hear numbers of the LS6 convertible - they are all guesses. There are no production numbers on LS6 convertibles. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Chuck, Then there is also the little known '70 LS6 w/aluminum heads. Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) ACES #5102 Here's one that a lot of people forget about when they're talking rare Chevelles... How about the '70 L89 (aluminum head, 375hp 396), of which there were only 18 built? In all my years of foolin' with Chevelles, I've never seen one in person. Seen plenty of Z-16s, More LS6 cars than were probably ever really built, and even a handful of '67 L78 cars (612 built). Shoot, even the '69 Ss with the L89 option is pretty rare... 400 units built. Yet another Chevelle oddity is the '66 fitted with the M22 Muncie four-speed... 12 built. Seen a couple of those.I'm still holding out for the '70 L89 Chevelle as one of the rarest ever built!Chuck
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Wasn't that consisered the LS-7? Or was that the high rise aluminum manifold? Brian Zack'70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@dpsabq.com -Original Message-From: Kent Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:08 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... Chuck, Then there is also the little known '70 LS6 w/aluminum heads. Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) ACES #5102 Here's one that a lot of people forget about when they're talking rare Chevelles... How about the '70 L89 (aluminum head, 375hp 396), of which there were only 18 built? In all my years of foolin' with Chevelles, I've never seen one in person. Seen plenty of Z-16s, More LS6 cars than were probably ever really built, and even a handful of '67 L78 cars (612 built). Shoot, even the '69 Ss with the L89 option is pretty rare... 400 units built. Yet another Chevelle oddity is the '66 fitted with the M22 Muncie four-speed... 12 built. Seen a couple of those.I'm still holding out for the '70 L89 Chevelle as one of the rarest ever built!Chuck
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Brian, The LS7 was an "over-the-counter" engine. To my knowledge, it was never installed in a production vehicle on an assembly line. The LS6 w/aluminum head was a factory installed engine in 1970. Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) ACES #5102
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I had a friend in the early seventies who owned a 1969 Mustang Boss 429 (Ford Hemi). I remember riding in it. Very smooth power, but a real Bi*** to work on. There's a local guy that has one of these Black w/ black interior. Absolutely awesome, even if it is a F!%d. Dean Vandergriff - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes, Suicide doors like the best hot rods, but ugly as hell :) André try the link below Suicide doors huh? Interesting car, thanks for the link. Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I don't know of any documented alu head 1970 LS6 engines installed at the factory in any car. In 1971 Chevy built a small number of LS6 Corvettes with alu heads. The LS7 was going to be sort of a L88 but 454 instead of 427. It was going to have alu heads. The LS7 program was canceled but a steel head LS7 was sold over the parts counter. All the hi po parts you wanted were in the chevy hi po parts catolog in the 70s. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Chad, I understand everything that is written on all the pages Whats wrong with you ? Just kidding ! its Norwegian. André How are you supposed to read this? It's all a foriegn language... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:31 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... Kelly, try the link below André http://home.online.no/~bjarnli/troll/index.html Guys, you have probably never heard of Troll, the only norwegian car ever built (except the electric ones). You got that rightgot any pics of it? Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Cool. Thanks for clearing that up. Its a good tid-bit of info to not get mixed up. Brian Zack'70 Chevelle Malibumailto:brianz@dpsabq.com -Original Message-From: Kent Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:31 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... Brian, The LS7 was an "over-the-counter" engine. To my knowledge, it was never installed in a production vehicle on an assembly line. The LS6 w/aluminum head was a factory installed engine in 1970. Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) ACES #5102
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Oh ok, I see...did you learn how to read Norwegian, or are you native to that language? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... Chad, I understand everything that is written on all the pages Whats wrong with you ? Just kidding ! its Norwegian. André How are you supposed to read this? It's all a foriegn language... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:31 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... Kelly, try the link below André http://home.online.no/~bjarnli/troll/index.html Guys, you have probably never heard of Troll, the only norwegian car ever built (except the electric ones). You got that rightgot any pics of it? Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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on 7/30/02 9:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never heard of a L88 Chevelle built at the factory. L89 I have heard of in 68 and 69. When you hear numbers of the LS6 convertible - they are all guesses. There are no production numbers on LS6 convertibles. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've heard of the '68 L89 and have even seen one, too. But it had no documentation to verify originality. As for LS6 convertibles, all the numbers being touted out there are just guesses. Chevrolet didn't keep accurate records on them by engine/body style/color etc. I have paperwork (build sheets or p-o-p's or window stickers and/or vin engine tracings) on 16 different ones currently known to exist. My personal dream car is a '70 L89 convertible w/M22 Muncie. Anyone got one laying around? Chuck - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... on 7/30/02 10:07 AM, Kent Lewis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chuck, Then there is also the little known '70 LS6 w/aluminum heads. Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) ACES #5102 Here's one that a lot of people forget about when they're talking rare Chevelles... How about the '70 L89 (aluminum head, 375hp 396), of which there were only 18 built? In all my years of foolin' with Chevelles, I've never seen one in person. Seen plenty of Z-16s, More LS6 cars than were probably ever really built, and even a handful of '67 L78 cars (612 built). Shoot, even the '69 Ss with the L89 option is pretty rare... 400 units built. Yet another Chevelle oddity is the '66 fitted with the M22 Muncie four-speed... 12 built. Seen a couple of those. I'm still holding out for the '70 L89 Chevelle as one of the rarest ever built! Chuck Kent, I believe that all aluminum-headed '70 Chevelles were built with the L78 (396/375hp) as the basis for their construction. I am not aware of any 454/LS6 variants of the L89 option. I could be wrong, however, as I've never seen either one in person. My '70 L78 (iron-head) convertible was a great car to have, but I'd love to find a '70 375-horse convert with recycled Budweiser cans bolted to the block! Chuck
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Title: Message Ohh great! There you go giving me ideas Chuck! I can just see the Budweiser emblem on the side of some heads at a car show in hi temp paint! -- My '70 L78 (iron-head) convertible was a great car to have, but I'd love to find a '70 375-horse convert with recycled Budweiser cans bolted to the block!Chuck
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I have an article that was written in one of the mags that I received (years ago), that tells the story of a gentleman in Texas (I believe) that has in his possession a '70 Chevelle convertible LS6 w/aluminum heads. There was a picture of the car sitting in a large pole barn/garage. If my memory serves me correctly, it was black w/black top. There was also a picture of the build sheet which clearly showed LS6 w/aluminum head...AND...the car came from the factory with a fiberglass cowl induction hood. It is also listed on the bottom of the build sheet. Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) ACES #5102
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Title: Message HHM maybe those satin finish bb valve covers i bought should be painted like a can of BUD Rob Means"be good,if not,be good at it [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Chevelle 69 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:24 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... Ohh great! There you go giving me ideas Chuck! I can just see the Budweiser emblem on the side of some heads at a car show in hi temp paint! -- My '70 L78 (iron-head) convertible was a great car to have, but I'd love to find a '70 375-horse convert with recycled Budweiser cans bolted to the block!Chuck
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Is it possible for you to scan that and e-mail it? I would love to have a copy of that. Brian Zack'70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@dpsabq.com I have an article that was written in one of the mags that I received (years ago), that tells the story of a gentleman in Texas (I believe) that has in his possession a '70 Chevelle convertible LS6 w/aluminum heads. There was a picture of the car sitting in a large pole barn/garage. If my memory serves me correctly, it was black w/black top. There was also a picture of the build sheet which clearly showed LS6 w/aluminum head...AND...the car came from the factory with a fiberglass cowl induction hood. It is also listed on the bottom of the build sheet. Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) ACES #5102
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Brian, I will make an honest effort to find it. But as someone on this list posted earlier, I'm not the most organized person. Maybe I just have too much sh*t !!! But, when I do find itI will send out "copies" to anyone that would like one. Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) ACES #5102
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hey Kent, I also would like a copy of that one.(please) Rob Means"be good,if not,be good at it [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Brian Zack To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:00 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... Is it possible for you to scan that and e-mail it? I would love to have a copy of that. Brian Zack'70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@dpsabq.com I have an article that was written in one of the mags that I received (years ago), that tells the story of a gentleman in Texas (I believe) that has in his possession a '70 Chevelle convertible LS6 w/aluminum heads. There was a picture of the car sitting in a large pole barn/garage. If my memory serves me correctly, it was black w/black top. There was also a picture of the build sheet which clearly showed LS6 w/aluminum head...AND...the car came from the factory with a fiberglass cowl induction hood. It is also listed on the bottom of the build sheet. Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) ACES #5102
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Kent, If you find it could I please have a copy as well. And a picture of your car. Thanks ! Kind Regards André - Original Message - From: Kent Lewis To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... I have an article that was written in one of the mags that I received (years ago), that tells the story of a gentleman in Texas (I believe) that has in his possession a '70 Chevelle convertible LS6 w/aluminum heads. There was a picture of the car sitting in a large pole barn/garage. If my memory serves me correctly, it was black w/black top. There was also a picture of the build sheet which clearly showed LS6 w/aluminum head...AND...the car came from the factory with a fiberglass cowl induction hood. It is also listed on the bottom of the build sheet. Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) ACES #5102
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I am Norwegian. Kind Regards André - Original Message - From: Chad Playso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... Oh ok, I see...did you learn how to read Norwegian, or are you native to that language? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... Chad, I understand everything that is written on all the pages Whats wrong with you ? Just kidding ! its Norwegian. André How are you supposed to read this? It's all a foriegn language... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:31 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... Kelly, try the link below André http://home.online.no/~bjarnli/troll/index.html Guys, you have probably never heard of Troll, the only norwegian car ever built (except the electric ones). You got that rightgot any pics of it? Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... on 7/30/02 12:43 PM, Kent Lewis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an article that was written in one of the mags that I received (years ago), that tells the story of a gentleman in Texas (I believe) that has in his possession a '70 Chevelle convertible LS6 w/aluminum heads. There was a picture of the car sitting in a large pole barn/garage. If my memory serves me correctly, it was black w/black top. There was also a picture of the build sheet which clearly showed LS6 w/aluminum head...AND...the car came from the factory with a fiberglass cowl induction hood. It is also listed on the bottom of the build sheet. Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) ACES #5102 Just because something appears in print, it isn't automatically gospel I know, because I've made many mistakes over the past 25 years while penning various articles for magazines. However, I've always been open anyone that could shed new light on a subject and broaden my scope of knowledge. Chevy High Performance had a brief article in it a few years back about the L89/LS6 convertible Chevelle from TX. I assume it's the same one being discussed here. It caused quite a controversy among the readers, with arguments going both ways. A few years prior to it appearing in the magazine, however, I personally inspected the car and the build sheet while on a business trip to Lubbock, TX. To the trained eye, the build sheet is laughable... not even close. All the fonts are wrong, it was obviously a counterfeit, and not a good one at that. A couple of years after the magazine article the car was sold at a Barrett-Jackson auction to a gentleman from Mustang, OK. The reason I know this is because after purchasing the Chevelle he asked me to help authenticate the car, which I agreed to. He sent me a copy of the same build sheet that I'd seen years earlier, and I told him based on that questionable piece of documentation I was unable to confirm the authenticity of the Chevelle. He called me a few weeks later to let me know he'd been able to get his money back. At the present time, it is unknown what the status of the car is or where it's located. Still, it was a neat car and a great what if Chevrolet decided to build one exercise. The coolest thing about the car, at least to me, was the functional, fiberglass cowl induction hood. It had all the right underbracing and sealing areas, and looked to me like a regular steel CI hood, except the thing was all fiberglass. The owner of the Chevelle was unable to confirm whether it may have been a GM prototype that got out of the engineering dept, or if some aftermarket company may have produced it. At any rate, I've never seen another like it. The other interesting car that he had parked in the same building was a black '66 SS with 427 fender flags and SS427 grill/cove emblems on it... purported to be a factory-produced car. It, too, was somewhat suspect as there was no paperwork confirming that fact. I've searched long and hard in my quest for Chevelle knowledge over the past 30 years, to find confirmation that some factory 427 Chevelles were produced in '66-7, but have yet to see one stitch of evidence to support that proposition. And, I believe that among the Chevelle cognoscente, that seems to be the prevailing line of thought. It, too, was a cool car with a healthy 427 and a rare GM-produced underhood cowl-plenum air cleaner. So, at least that's my read on a couple of Chevelles that are unique and over time have become somewhat mythical... but ultimately, not verifiable. If anyone knows any more info on either of these cars (anyone, especially in the Lubbock, TX area), I'd like to hear from you and consider any evidence you have to support either of the claims that these cars are real. As I said earlier, I'm always open to anybody that can bring new light to a subject and increase my knowledge. This has been a great thread, thanks for allowing me to comment. Chuck
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Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... And, I believe that among the Chevelle cognoscente... Whoa, Chuck! "Cognoscente"? You been reading Webster's again? :*) Wow! Speaking of things in print...the Year One (spring 98)catalog I haveshows SS427 flags for 66/67 Chevelles but state, "427's weren't originally factory-installed in '66 models but it's a common swap. For this reason, we're including these emblems here." Concerning the Z-16's they state that the prototype was built in Baltimore on a hardtop chassis and the other 200 (and I quote "all Z-16s were hardtops") wereassembled in Kansas City using the convertible boxedframe. Four years ago at least, the "Tech Car"prototype was owned by and on display at the, then new, Floyd Garrett. Dale
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Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... on 7/30/02 7:03 PM, 396guy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, I believe that among the Chevelle cognoscente ... Whoa, Chuck! Cognoscente? You been reading Webster's again? :*) Wow! Speaking of things in print...the Year One (spring 98) catalog I have shows SS427 flags for 66/67 Chevelles but state, 427's weren't originally factory-installed in '66 models but it's a common swap. For this reason, we're including these emblems here. Concerning the Z-16's they state that the prototype was built in Baltimore on a hardtop chassis and the other 200 (and I quote all Z-16s were hardtops) were assembled in Kansas City using the convertible boxed frame. Four years ago at least, the Tech Car prototype was owned by and on display at the, then new, Floyd Garrett. Dale Ha! Made ya reach for the dictionary on that one, huh, Dale? I figger since you're one of 'em, now you know what you are! I agree with Year One... the 427 is a fairly common swap into '66-7 Chevelles. But emblems alone do not make the car! As for the Z-16 proto, Floyd sold it a while back, and it's now in the possession of Terry Gunter down in Atlanta. Lotsa experimental and early production trim pieces on that one! Cool car... even cooler than other Z-16s because of its early build status. Unfortunately, it's not in the museum anymore so seeing it in person is not as easy as it was a few years ago. Chuck
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So, at least that's my read on a couple of Chevelles that are unique and over time have become somewhat mythical... but ultimately, not verifiable. If anyone knows any more info on either of these cars (anyone, especially in the Lubbock, TX area), I'd like to hear from you and consider any evidence you have to support either of the claims that these cars are real. As I said earlier, I'm always open to anybody that can bring new light to a subject and increase my knowledge. This has been a great thread, thanks for allowing me to comment. I'll bet that's one of your favorite parts of the business you're in. Research is one of my favorite things to do when it comes to my work. Amassing knowledge of everything El Camino has been fun too. Recently I saw a 1960 model close up and after commenting on it and posting the picture to the web page, a friend told me that he liked the 1959 better. Since then I have seen one in person and would love someday to find one in a barn. I love the cat's eye tailights and fins. It has become one of my top three I want one cars. The one I saw at the Granbury, Texas Cruise now has a blower sticking out of the hood on a 350 and the 283 has gone by the wayside. The guy used to have a 1969 Chevelle, but sold it to start his new project. On a different note, I lived my first six years in Lubbock...pretty fond memories of our house on 20th street...nice town. Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com
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Title: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... Hey Chuck, Thanks for bringing up the alum. head LS6 story. I remember when that came out and you and I had had a discussion about that car. Interesting fellow that guy was. I called him once about rentingagang stamp to stamp mycorrect date coded block to match my car (decided not to do it by the way) andhe and I talked a couple hours (my dime collect). Gave new meaning to having boat loads of documentation before plunking down hard cash for a rare Chevelle. See ya Bob Belz 71 SS454 A.C.E.S. #182 - Original Message - From: Chuck Hanson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... on 7/30/02 12:43 PM, Kent Lewis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an article that was written in one of the mags that I received (years ago), that tells the story of a gentleman in Texas (I believe) that has in his possession a '70 Chevelle convertible LS6 w/aluminum heads. There was a picture of the car sitting in a large pole barn/garage. If my memory serves me correctly, it was black w/black top. There was also a picture of the build sheet which clearly showed LS6 w/aluminum head...AND...the car came from the factory with a fiberglass cowl induction hood. It is also listed on the bottom of the build sheet. Kent'68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :)ACES #5102Just because something appears in print, it isn't automatically gospel I know, because I've made many mistakes over the past 25 years while penning various articles for magazines. However, I've always been open anyone that could shed new light on a subject and broaden my scope of knowledge.Chevy High Performance had a brief article in it a few years back about the L89/LS6 convertible Chevelle from TX. I assume it's the same one being discussed here. It caused quite a controversy among the readers, with arguments going both ways. A few years prior to it appearing in the magazine, however, I personally inspected the car and the "build sheet" while on a business trip to Lubbock, TX. To the trained eye, the build sheet is laughable... not even close. All the fonts are wrong, it was obviously a counterfeit, and not a good one at that. A couple of years after the magazine article the car was sold at a Barrett-Jackson auction to a gentleman from Mustang, OK. The reason I know this is because after purchasing the Chevelle he asked me to help authenticate the car, which I agreed to. He sent me a copy of the same "build sheet" that I'd seen years earlier, and I told him based on that questionable piece of documentation I was unable to confirm the authenticity of the Chevelle. He called me a few weeks later to let me know he'd been able to get his money back. At the present time, it is unknown what the status of the car is or where it's located.Still, it was a neat car and a great "what if Chevrolet decided to build one" exercise. The coolest thing about the car, at least to me, was the functional, fiberglass cowl induction hood. It had all the right underbracing and sealing areas, and looked to me like a regular steel CI hood, except the thing was all fiberglass. The owner of the Chevelle was unable to confirm whether it may have been a GM prototype that got out of the engineering dept, or if some aftermarket company may have produced it. At any rate, I've never seen another like it. The other interesting car that he had parked in the same building was a black '66 SS with 427 fender flags and SS427 grill/cove emblems on it... purported to be a "factory-produced" car. It, too, was somewhat suspect as there was no paperwork confirming that fact. I've searched long and hard in my quest for Chevelle knowledge over the past 30 years, to find confirmation that some "factory" 427 Chevelles were produced in '66-7, but have yet to see one stitch of evidence to support that proposition. And, I believe that among the Chevelle cognoscente, that seems to be the prevailing line of thought. It, too, was a cool car with a healthy 427 and a rare GM-produced underhood cowl-plenum air cleaner.So, at least that's my read on a couple of Chevelles that are unique and over time have become somewhat mythical... but ultimately, not verifiable. If anyone knows any more info on either of these cars (anyone, especially in the Lubbock, TX area), I'd like to hear from you and consider any evidence you have to support either of the claims that these cars are "real." As I said earlier, I'm always open to anybody that can bring new light to a subject and increase my knowledge. This has been a great thread, thanks for allowing me to comment.Chuck
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Just because something appears in print, it isn't automatically gospel I know, because I've made many mistakes over the past 25 years while penning various articles for magazines. However, I've always been open anyone that could shed new light on a subject and broaden my scope of knowledge.Chevy High Performance had a brief article in it a few years back about the L89/LS6 convertible Chevelle from TX. I assume it's the same one being discussed here. It caused quite a controversy among the readers, with arguments going both ways. A few years prior to it appearing in the magazine, however, I personally inspected the car and the "build sheet" while on a business trip to Lubbock, TX. To the trained eye, the build sheet is laughable... not even close. All the fonts are wrong, it was obviously a counterfeit, and not a good one at that. A couple of years after the magazine article the car was sold at a Barrett-Jackson auction to a gentleman from Mustang, OK. The reason I know this is because after purchasing the Chevelle he asked me to help authenticate the car, which I agreed to. He sent me a copy of the same "build sheet" that I'd seen years earlier, and I told him based on that questionable piece of documentation I was unable to confirm the authenticity of the Chevelle. He called me a few weeks later to let me know he'd been able to get his money back. At the present time, it is unknown what the status of the car is or where it's located.Still, it was a neat car and a great "what if Chevrolet decided to build one" exercise. The coolest thing about the car, at least to me, was the functional, fiberglass cowl induction hood. It had all the right underbracing and sealing areas, and looked to me like a regular steel CI hood, except the thing was all fiberglass. The owner of the Chevelle was unable to confirm whether it may have been a GM prototype that got out of the engineering dept, or if some aftermarket company may have produced it. At any rate, I've never seen another like it. The other interesting car that he had parked in the same building was a black '66 SS with 427 fender flags and SS427 grill/cove emblems on it... purported to be a "factory-produced" car. It, too, was somewhat suspect as there was no paperwork confirming that fact. I've searched long and hard in my quest for Chevelle knowledge over the past 30 years, to find confirmation that some "factory" 427 Chevelles were produced in '66-7, but have yet to see one stitch of evidence to support that proposition. And, I believe that among the Chevelle cognoscente, that seems to be the prevailing line of thought. It, too, was a cool car with a healthy 427 and a rare GM-produced underhood cowl-plenum air cleaner.So, at least that's my read on a couple of Chevelles that are unique and over time have become somewhat mythical... but ultimately, not verifiable. If anyone knows any more info on either of these cars (anyone, especially in the Lubbock, TX area), I'd like to hear from you and consider any evidence you have to support either of the claims that these cars are "real." As I said earlier, I'm always open to anybody that can bring new light to a subject and increase my knowledge. This has been a great thread, thanks for allowing me to comment.Chuck Well that sure sounds like the same car. And yes I do believe the article came from a copy of Chevy High Performance, not sure on the date though (still have not found the article). But you covered it rather well. It's neat to hear that you have actually looked at the car and the build sheet. From the photo in the article it would be difficult to distinguish a real vs. fake buildsheet. And as you say "Just because something appears in print, it isn't automatically gospel". Having said that, I will add that there is more to the story on the fiberglass cowl hood. This same gentleman from Texas was able to locate the manufacturer of the special hood. Apparently the company was/is still in business, and in fact still had a number of these hoods in storage. He purchased the last 3 (?) hoods that they had. Now, about the LS6 w/aluminum head option. Once again, I am going to use my "encyclopedia of car facts/fiction" and say that I recall a letter that waswritten to a magazine wanting to know what theengine codewas that was stamped on his block. The response was something to the effect of "Your not going to believe this, but we looked up that code and it deciphers out as an LS6 w/aluminum heads ! Wewere not aware that engine even existed."Anyone care to lookup the engine codes ? Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) ACES #5102
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I don't want to even try to get involved in non GM cars, and rare/collectible cars can get to be a big debate, but for me the following performance Chevrolet's top my list: *ZL-1: 1969 Camaro or 1969 Vette *COPO cars: 9560,9561, etc *Tuner Cars: Yenko, Nickey, Motion, Harrell, Gibb, Dana, Berger, etc. *Anything with the following engine RPO's(muscle car era): L71,L72,L78,L79,L88,L89,ZL-1,LS6,LT1, etc The list can go on and on Aaron Weaver 67 SS 396 = Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = I was wondering what are a couple of the rarest cars you can get? The only ones I can think of right now are: 1965 Chevy Chevelle Z-16 1970 Buick Gran Sport Stage 1 1970 Chevy Chevelle LS-5 (rarer than LS - 6) 1964 AC Cobra 427 1969 Yenko Camaro, Chevelle, and Nova 1963 Corvette Split Window 1965 Chevelle L-89 (or 88) 1969 (or 70) Daytona Charger 1970 Plymouth Superbird 1968 - 1970 Hemi Cuda, Roadrunner, Charger 1966 GTO Tri-Power 1967 - 1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 / GT500 Any I missed? I know It's hard to name all cause sometimes it can just even be very rare cause of car color! Chad - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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What is an L-89 or 88 65 Chevelle? Do you mean an L-79 327/350. If you do then you haven't been paying attention to the list or the books. If there is, then I haven't been paying attention. Anyone else? Phil G. 65 SS MCC #36 ACES #555 TC #1766 In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:23:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was wondering what are a couple of the rarest cars you can get? The only ones I can think of right now are: 1965 Chevy Chevelle Z-16 1970 Buick Gran Sport Stage 1 1970 Chevy Chevelle LS-5 (rarer than LS - 6) 1964 AC Cobra 427 1969 Yenko Camaro, Chevelle, and Nova 1963 Corvette Split Window 1965 Chevelle L-89 (or 88) 1969 (or 70) Daytona Charger 1970 Plymouth Superbird 1968 - 1970 Hemi Cuda, Roadrunner, Charger 1966 GTO Tri-Power 1967 - 1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 / GT500 Any I missed? I know It's hard to name all cause sometimes it can just even be very rare cause of car color! Chad - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Chad, my HeavyChevyChevelle is rare, LoL only 9,508 total built for 72 versus the SS with 24thou and some change, along with 24 or better malibues, i cant find my specs i was packing to move but are staying now. also My heavy Chevy was built in canada and only 931 were produced with the HeavyChevy Apperance Package it is also #39 off the line Ken D 72HeavyChevyChevelle
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I'm glad you didn't sell it. I saw your Heavy chevy on the website around 2 weeks ago and it was beautiful! What engine does it have - a 350? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... Chad,my HeavyChevyChevelle is rare, LoLonly 9,508 total built for 72 versus the SS with 24thou and some change, along with 24 or better malibues, i cant find my specs i was packing to move but are staying now. also My heavy Chevy was built in canada and only 931 were produced with the HeavyChevy Apperance Package it is also #39 off the lineKen D 72HeavyChevyChevelle
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haha, i just got from aaw1255 that there are L-88's AND L-89's. Turns out that I was the one PAYING ATTENTION... :) Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... What is an L-89 or 88 65 Chevelle? Do you mean an L-79 327/350. If you do then you haven't been paying attention to the list or the books. If there is, then I haven't been paying attention. Anyone else? Phil G. 65 SS MCC #36 ACES #555 TC #1766 In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:23:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was wondering what are a couple of the rarest cars you can get? The only ones I can think of right now are: 1965 Chevy Chevelle Z-16 1970 Buick Gran Sport Stage 1 1970 Chevy Chevelle LS-5 (rarer than LS - 6) 1964 AC Cobra 427 1969 Yenko Camaro, Chevelle, and Nova 1963 Corvette Split Window 1965 Chevelle L-89 (or 88) 1969 (or 70) Daytona Charger 1970 Plymouth Superbird 1968 - 1970 Hemi Cuda, Roadrunner, Charger 1966 GTO Tri-Power 1967 - 1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 / GT500 Any I missed? I know It's hard to name all cause sometimes it can just even be very rare cause of car color! Chad - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Chad, nope im in no hurry now to sell it and yes a 350 now 355 KenD
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How about the '70 '71 Monte Carlo SS454's (LS5's) (1970-3,823 1971-1,919 made) Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chad Playso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... haha, i just got from aaw1255 that there are L-88's AND L-89's. Turns out that I was the one PAYING ATTENTION... :) Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... What is an L-89 or 88 65 Chevelle? Do you mean an L-79 327/350. If you do then you haven't been paying attention to the list or the books. If there is, then I haven't been paying attention. Anyone else? Phil G. 65 SS MCC #36 ACES #555 TC #1766 In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:23:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was wondering what are a couple of the rarest cars you can get? The only ones I can think of right now are: 1965 Chevy Chevelle Z-16 1970 Buick Gran Sport Stage 1 1970 Chevy Chevelle LS-5 (rarer than LS - 6) 1964 AC Cobra 427 1969 Yenko Camaro, Chevelle, and Nova 1963 Corvette Split Window 1965 Chevelle L-89 (or 88) 1969 (or 70) Daytona Charger 1970 Plymouth Superbird 1968 - 1970 Hemi Cuda, Roadrunner, Charger 1966 GTO Tri-Power 1967 - 1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 / GT500 Any I missed? I know It's hard to name all cause sometimes it can just even be very rare cause of car color! Chad - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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How about an import: 1967 Jaguar XKE Roadster Early Series 1.5, 4.2 tri power/4 speed, 3.55 posi I have one sitting in the garage in pieces being restored. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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How about an import: 1967 Jaguar XKE Roadster Early Series 1.5, 4.2 tri power/4 speed, 3.55 posi Doesn't count! Its not a real car. J/K of course 8) JD - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... I have one sitting in the garage in pieces being restored. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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"1970 Chevy Chevelle LS-5 (rarer than LS - 6)"?? Was the LS5 Rarer then the LS6 Thoought it was the other way around? I could be wrong though...What about the 396 version? Mikey - Original Message - From: Chad Playso Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... I was wondering what are a couple of the rarest cars you can get? The only ones I can think of right now are: 1965 Chevy Chevelle Z-16 1970 BuickGran Sport Stage 1 1970 Chevy Chevelle LS-5 (rarer than LS - 6) 1964 ACCobra 427 1969 Yenko Camaro, Chevelle, and Nova 1963 Corvette Split Window 1965 Chevelle L-89 (or 88) 1969 (or 70) Daytona Charger 1970 Plymouth Superbird 1968 - 1970 Hemi Cuda,Roadrunner, Charger 1966 GTO Tri-Power 1967 - 1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 / GT500 Any I missed? I know It's hard to name all cause sometimes it can just even be very rare cause of car color! Chad
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There is a 70 396 car that is rarer than the LS6. I forget the RPO, but if i can recall, it is an L89 ragtop. There is also a 69 396 post car that there were like 6 made. One of them was at Super Chevy in Maple Grove. I also know of a 1930 Cadillac Limo that has a V-16 in it and is valued at least around the $500,000 mark Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I don't have the production numbers (sorry), but I am certain that Chad is correct. The LS5 was produced in fewer numbers than the fabled LS6. Go to Chevelles.com - I believe there's a link to production numbers by RPO. Darrell Spencer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... There is a 70 396 car that is rarer than the LS6. I forget the RPO, but if i can recall, it is an L89 ragtop. There is also a 69 396 post car that there were like 6 made. One of them was at Super Chevy in Maple Grove. I also know of a 1930 Cadillac Limo that has a V-16 in it and is valued at least around the $500,000 mark Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Production numbers aren't everything. Anybody want to trade an 70 LS6 for my LS5..not a prayer. Walt http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/CHEVELLE.htm = Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = I don't have the production numbers (sorry), but I am certain that Chad is correct. The LS5 was produced in fewer numbers than the fabled LS6. Go to Chevelles.com - I believe there's a link to production numbers by RPO. Darrell Spencer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... There is a 70 396 car that is rarer than the LS6. I forget the RPO, but if i can recall, it is an L89 ragtop. There is also a 69 396 post car that there were like 6 made. One of them was at Super Chevy in Maple Grove. I also know of a 1930 Cadillac Limo that has a V-16 in it and is valued at least around the $500,000 mark Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Walter Bainey Network Engineer Network Services Kent State University - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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As far as I know, there were53,599 SS 396'smade, 8,733 SS 454's made, 18 LS-6 Convertibles, 4475 LS-6's, and I heard that there was only 1 Automatic w/ a LS-6 454, LS-6's cost around $4,402.82, 4258 LS-5's made. So the 454/360's were slightly rarer. Hope this info helped! Chad - Original Message - From: Capt Crunch To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... "1970 Chevy Chevelle LS-5 (rarer than LS - 6)"?? Was the LS5 Rarer then the LS6 Thoought it was the other way around? I could be wrong though...What about the 396 version? Mikey - Original Message - From: Chad Playso Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... I was wondering what are a couple of the rarest cars you can get? The only ones I can think of right now are: 1965 Chevy Chevelle Z-16 1970 BuickGran Sport Stage 1 1970 Chevy Chevelle LS-5 (rarer than LS - 6) 1964 ACCobra 427 1969 Yenko Camaro, Chevelle, and Nova 1963 Corvette Split Window 1965 Chevelle L-89 (or 88) 1969 (or 70) Daytona Charger 1970 Plymouth Superbird 1968 - 1970 Hemi Cuda,Roadrunner, Charger 1966 GTO Tri-Power 1967 - 1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 / GT500 Any I missed? I know It's hard to name all cause sometimes it can just even be very rare cause of car color! Chad
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cool... thanks for the info. Never knew that. I still love the Baldwin Motion cars when you start talking rare.- Original Message - From: Chad Playso Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... As far as I know, there were53,599 SS 396'smade, 8,733 SS 454's made, 18 LS-6 Convertibles, 4475 LS-6's, and I heard that there was only 1 Automatic w/ a LS-6 454, LS-6's cost around $4,402.82, 4258 LS-5's made. So the 454/360's were slightly rarer. Hope this info helped! Chad - Original Message - From: Capt Crunch To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... "1970 Chevy Chevelle LS-5 (rarer than LS - 6)"?? Was the LS5 Rarer then the LS6 Thoought it was the other way around? I could be wrong though...What about the 396 version? Mikey - Original Message - From: Chad Playso Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... I was wondering what are a couple of the rarest cars you can get? The only ones I can think of right now are: 1965 Chevy Chevelle Z-16 1970 BuickGran Sport Stage 1 1970 Chevy Chevelle LS-5 (rarer than LS - 6) 1964 ACCobra 427 1969 Yenko Camaro, Chevelle, and Nova 1963 Corvette Split Window 1965 Chevelle L-89 (or 88) 1969 (or 70) Daytona Charger 1970 Plymouth Superbird 1968 - 1970 Hemi Cuda,Roadrunner, Charger 1966 GTO Tri-Power 1967 - 1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 / GT500 Any I missed? I know It's hard to name all cause sometimes it can just even be very rare cause of car color! Chad
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oh yes, if I had a choice, I would go with the LS-6, why? I'm sure you know the answer to that one... - Original Message - From: wbainey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:59 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US...LS5 Production numbers aren't everything. Anybody want to trade an 70 LS6 for my LS5..not a prayer. Walt http://www.personal.kent.edu/~wbainey/CHEVELLE.htm = Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] = I don't have the production numbers (sorry), but I am certain that Chad is correct. The LS5 was produced in fewer numbers than the fabled LS6. Go to Chevelles.com - I believe there's a link to production numbers by RPO. Darrell Spencer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... There is a 70 396 car that is rarer than the LS6. I forget the RPO, but if i can recall, it is an L89 ragtop. There is also a 69 396 post car that there were like 6 made. One of them was at Super Chevy in Maple Grove. I also know of a 1930 Cadillac Limo that has a V-16 in it and is valued at least around the $500,000 mark Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Walter Bainey Network Engineer Network Services Kent State University - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Please educate me then. What is a 1965 Chevelle L-88 or L-89? I hope you WERE paying attention Chad so you can teach me something and make us all proud with all this knowledge from the List. Remember 1965. Not 1966-72 options. In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:16:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: haha, i just got from aaw1255 that there are L-88's AND L-89's. Turns out that I was the one PAYING ATTENTION... :) Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... What is an L-89 or 88 65 Chevelle? Do you mean an L-79 327/350. If you do then you haven't been paying attention to the list or the books. If there is, then I haven't been paying attention. Anyone else? Phil G. 65 SS MCC #36 ACES #555 TC #1766 In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:23:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was wondering what are a couple of the rarest cars you can get? The only ones I can think of right now are: 1965 Chevy Chevelle Z-16 1970 Buick Gran Sport Stage 1 1970 Chevy Chevelle LS-5 (rarer than LS - 6) 1964 AC Cobra 427 1969 Yenko Camaro, Chevelle, and Nova 1963 Corvette Split Window 1965 Chevelle L-89 (or 88) 1969 (or 70) Daytona Charger 1970 Plymouth Superbird 1968 - 1970 Hemi Cuda, Roadrunner, Charger 1966 GTO Tri-Power 1967 - 1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 / GT500 Any I missed? I know It's hard to name all cause sometimes it can just even be very rare cause of car color! Chad - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I met a guy at a shop - not related to cars, all model stuff (planes, cars, trains, etc...) and He had a1968 or 1969 Baldwin Motion Camaro (not a chevelle, but still cool), and I saw it, it was Dark green with white stripes, and I never rode in it, whichI regret, but anyways, I remember meeting him again and he told me that hesold it for $104,000 somewhere, and I couldn't believe my eyes that he sold that goregeous car... And now that I think about it, isn't 104,000 for a Baldwin M. cheap (not exactly cheap, but lower in price than most for sale)? Chad - Original Message - From: Capt Crunch To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... cool... thanks for the info. Never knew that. I still love the Baldwin Motion cars when you start talking rare. - Original Message - From: Chad Playso Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... As far as I know, there were53,599 SS 396'smade, 8,733 SS 454's made, 18 LS-6 Convertibles, 4475 LS-6's, and I heard that there was only 1 Automatic w/ a LS-6 454, LS-6's cost around $4,402.82, 4258 LS-5's made. So the 454/360's were slightly rarer. Hope this info helped! Chad - Original Message - From: Capt Crunch To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... "1970 Chevy Chevelle LS-5 (rarer than LS - 6)"?? Was the LS5 Rarer then the LS6 Thoought it was the other way around? I could be wrong though...What about the 396 version? Mikey - Original Message - From: Chad Playso Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... I was wondering what are a couple of the rarest cars you can get? The only ones I can think of right now are: 1965 Chevy Chevelle Z-16 1970 BuickGran Sport Stage 1 1970 Chevy Chevelle LS-5 (rarer than LS - 6) 1964 ACCobra 427 1969 Yenko Camaro, Chevelle, and Nova 1963 Corvette Split Window 1965 Chevelle L-89 (or 88) 1969 (or 70) Daytona Charger 1970 Plymouth Superbird 1968 - 1970 Hemi Cuda,Roadrunner, Charger 1966 GTO Tri-Power 1967 - 1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 / GT500 Any I missed? I know It's hard to name all cause sometimes it can just even be very rare cause of car color! Chad
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I think there were a tad more than 1 Automatic LS6 around - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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L-88: Introduced in 1967 (so I'm guessing they weren't in 1965). quoted from Year One - The L-88 engine was basically a race engine built only in sufficient quantities to satisfy the homologation rules of various racing sanctioning bodies. These engines featured either cast-iron or aluminum heads (aluminum heads were optional) and a healthy 12.5:1 compression ratio. Specifications for the mechanical camshaft were .562 intake, .584 exhaust lift; 354° intake and 360° exhaust duration. The bottom end was of course all forged with 4-bolt main bearing caps. Although no horsepower figures for the L-88 were released by Chevrolet in 1967, they arbitrarily tagged the virtually identical 1968 version at 430. True figures were probably in the 500 range. L-89: (also not in 1965) 1968-1969 396/375 HP, same as L-78 but with optional closed chamber square port aluminum heads for Nova and Camaro. 1968 427/425 HP Corvette, same as L-71 but with optional closed chamber square port aluminum heads. PS. I didn't really know about L-88's and L-89's but when aaw1255 said that there were L-88's and L-89's, I just wanted to tell you that I knew that there were L-88's and L-89's, but in reality, they were introduced farther down the road from 1965. I apologize, but still, here you go, I got some information on the L-88 and L-89's... Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... Please educate me then. What is a 1965 Chevelle L-88 or L-89? I hope you WERE paying attention Chad so you can teach me something and make us all proud with all this knowledge from the List. Remember 1965. Not 1966-72 options. In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:16:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: haha, i just got from aaw1255 that there are L-88's AND L-89's. Turns out that I was the one PAYING ATTENTION... :) Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... What is an L-89 or 88 65 Chevelle? Do you mean an L-79 327/350. If you do then you haven't been paying attention to the list or the books. If there is, then I haven't been paying attention. Anyone else? Phil G. 65 SS MCC #36 ACES #555 TC #1766 In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:23:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was wondering what are a couple of the rarest cars you can get? The only ones I can think of right now are: 1965 Chevy Chevelle Z-16 1970 Buick Gran Sport Stage 1 1970 Chevy Chevelle LS-5 (rarer than LS - 6) 1964 AC Cobra 427 1969 Yenko Camaro, Chevelle, and Nova 1963 Corvette Split Window 1965 Chevelle L-89 (or 88) 1969 (or 70) Daytona Charger 1970 Plymouth Superbird 1968 - 1970 Hemi Cuda, Roadrunner, Charger 1966 GTO Tri-Power 1967 - 1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 / GT500 Any I missed? I know It's hard to name all cause sometimes it can just even be very rare cause of car color! Chad - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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LOLi beleive so too. one??? KenD 72 HCC
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Good work Chad. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chad Playso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... L-88: Introduced in 1967 (so I'm guessing they weren't in 1965). quoted from Year One - The L-88 engine was basically a race engine built only in sufficient quantities to satisfy the homologation rules of various racing sanctioning bodies. These engines featured either cast-iron or aluminum heads (aluminum heads were optional) and a healthy 12.5:1 compression ratio. Specifications for the mechanical camshaft were .562 intake, .584 exhaust lift; 354° intake and 360° exhaust duration. The bottom end was of course all forged with 4-bolt main bearing caps. Although no horsepower figures for the L-88 were released by Chevrolet in 1967, they arbitrarily tagged the virtually identical 1968 version at 430. True figures were probably in the 500 range. L-89: (also not in 1965) 1968-1969 396/375 HP, same as L-78 but with optional closed chamber square port aluminum heads for Nova and Camaro. 1968 427/425 HP Corvette, same as L-71 but with optional closed chamber square port aluminum heads. PS. I didn't really know about L-88's and L-89's but when aaw1255 said that there were L-88's and L-89's, I just wanted to tell you that I knew that there were L-88's and L-89's, but in reality, they were introduced farther down the road from 1965. I apologize, but still, here you go, I got some information on the L-88 and L-89's... Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... Please educate me then. What is a 1965 Chevelle L-88 or L-89? I hope you WERE paying attention Chad so you can teach me something and make us all proud with all this knowledge from the List. Remember 1965. Not 1966-72 options. In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:16:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: haha, i just got from aaw1255 that there are L-88's AND L-89's. Turns out that I was the one PAYING ATTENTION... :) Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... What is an L-89 or 88 65 Chevelle? Do you mean an L-79 327/350. If you do then you haven't been paying attention to the list or the books. If there is, then I haven't been paying attention. Anyone else? Phil G. 65 SS MCC #36 ACES #555 TC #1766 In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:23:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was wondering what are a couple of the rarest cars you can get? The only ones I can think of right now are: 1965 Chevy Chevelle Z-16 1970 Buick Gran Sport Stage 1 1970 Chevy Chevelle LS-5 (rarer than LS - 6) 1964 AC Cobra 427 1969 Yenko Camaro, Chevelle, and Nova 1963 Corvette Split Window 1965 Chevelle L-89 (or 88) 1969 (or 70) Daytona Charger 1970 Plymouth Superbird 1968 - 1970 Hemi Cuda, Roadrunner, Charger 1966 GTO Tri-Power 1967 - 1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 / GT500 Any I missed? I know It's hard to name all cause sometimes it can just even be very rare cause of car color! Chad - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks Chad. Glad we all learned something. No more from me on the subject. I just don't know that much about 66-72's or BB's. I just enjoy them. I'm a 1965 SS guy! PHIL G. 65 SS In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 2:28:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: L-88: Introduced in 1967 (so I'm guessing they weren't in 1965). quoted from Year One - The L-88 engine was basically a race engine built only in sufficient quantities to satisfy the homologation rules of various racing sanctioning bodies. These engines featured either cast-iron or aluminum heads (aluminum heads were optional) and a healthy 12.5:1 compression ratio. Specifications for the mechanical camshaft were .562 intake, .584 exhaust lift; 354° intake and 360° exhaust duration. The bottom end was of course all forged with 4-bolt main bearing caps. Although no horsepower figures for the L-88 were released by Chevrolet in 1967, they arbitrarily tagged the virtually identical 1968 version at 430. True figures were probably in the 500 range. L-89: (also not in 1965) 1968-1969 396/375 HP, same as L-78 but with optional closed chamber square port aluminum heads for Nova and Camaro. 1968 427/425 HP Corvette, same as L-71 but with optional closed chamber square port aluminum heads. PS. I didn't really know about L-88's and L-89's but when aaw1255 said that there were L-88's and L-89's, I just wanted to tell you that I knew that there were L-88's and L-89's, but in reality, they were introduced farther down the road from 1965. I apologize, but still, here you go, I got some information on the L-88 and L-89's... Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... Please educate me then. What is a 1965 Chevelle L-88 or L-89? I hope you WERE paying attention Chad so you can teach me something and make us all proud with all this knowledge from the List. Remember 1965. Not 1966-72 options. In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:16:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: haha, i just got from aaw1255 that there are L-88's AND L-89's. Turns out that I was the one PAYING ATTENTION... :) Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... What is an L-89 or 88 65 Chevelle? Do you mean an L-79 327/350. If you do then you haven't been paying attention to the list or the books. If there is, then I haven't been paying attention. Anyone else? Phil G. 65 SS MCC #36 ACES #555 TC #1766 In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:23:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was wondering what are a couple of the rarest cars you can get? The only ones I can think of right now are: 1965 Chevy Chevelle Z-16 1970 Buick Gran Sport Stage 1 1970 Chevy Chevelle LS-5 (rarer than LS - 6) 1964 AC Cobra 427 1969 Yenko Camaro, Chevelle, and Nova 1963 Corvette Split Window 1965 Chevelle L-89 (or 88) 1969 (or 70) Daytona Charger 1970 Plymouth Superbird 1968 - 1970 Hemi Cuda, Roadrunner, Charger 1966 GTO Tri-Power 1967 - 1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 / GT500 Any I missed? I know It's hard to name all cause sometimes it can just even be very rare cause of car color! Chad - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I had a friend in the early seventies who owned a 1969 Mustang Boss 429 (Ford Hemi). I remember riding in it. Very smooth power, but a real Bi*** to work on. Bob King -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Zack Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 12:40 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... How about the '70 '71 Monte Carlo SS454's (LS5's) (1970-3,823 1971-1,919 made) Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chad Playso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... haha, i just got from aaw1255 that there are L-88's AND L-89's. Turns out that I was the one PAYING ATTENTION... :) Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... What is an L-89 or 88 65 Chevelle? Do you mean an L-79 327/350. If you do then you haven't been paying attention to the list or the books. If there is, then I haven't been paying attention. Anyone else? Phil G. 65 SS MCC #36 ACES #555 TC #1766 In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:23:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was wondering what are a couple of the rarest cars you can get? The only ones I can think of right now are: 1965 Chevy Chevelle Z-16 1970 Buick Gran Sport Stage 1 1970 Chevy Chevelle LS-5 (rarer than LS - 6) 1964 AC Cobra 427 1969 Yenko Camaro, Chevelle, and Nova 1963 Corvette Split Window 1965 Chevelle L-89 (or 88) 1969 (or 70) Daytona Charger 1970 Plymouth Superbird 1968 - 1970 Hemi Cuda, Roadrunner, Charger 1966 GTO Tri-Power 1967 - 1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 / GT500 Any I missed? I know It's hard to name all cause sometimes it can just even be very rare cause of car color! Chad - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Guys, you have probably never heard of Troll, the only norwegian car ever built (except the electric ones). 5 pieces only !!! Kind Regards André - Original Message - From: Brian Zack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 6:39 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... How about the '70 '71 Monte Carlo SS454's (LS5's) (1970-3,823 1971-1,919 made) Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chad Playso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... haha, i just got from aaw1255 that there are L-88's AND L-89's. Turns out that I was the one PAYING ATTENTION... :) Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... What is an L-89 or 88 65 Chevelle? Do you mean an L-79 327/350. If you do then you haven't been paying attention to the list or the books. If there is, then I haven't been paying attention. Anyone else? Phil G. 65 SS MCC #36 ACES #555 TC #1766 In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:23:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was wondering what are a couple of the rarest cars you can get? The only ones I can think of right now are: 1965 Chevy Chevelle Z-16 1970 Buick Gran Sport Stage 1 1970 Chevy Chevelle LS-5 (rarer than LS - 6) 1964 AC Cobra 427 1969 Yenko Camaro, Chevelle, and Nova 1963 Corvette Split Window 1965 Chevelle L-89 (or 88) 1969 (or 70) Daytona Charger 1970 Plymouth Superbird 1968 - 1970 Hemi Cuda, Roadrunner, Charger 1966 GTO Tri-Power 1967 - 1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 / GT500 Any I missed? I know It's hard to name all cause sometimes it can just even be very rare cause of car color! Chad - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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thank you. - Original Message - From: Brian Zack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 3:44 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... Good work Chad. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chad Playso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... L-88: Introduced in 1967 (so I'm guessing they weren't in 1965). quoted from Year One - The L-88 engine was basically a race engine built only in sufficient quantities to satisfy the homologation rules of various racing sanctioning bodies. These engines featured either cast-iron or aluminum heads (aluminum heads were optional) and a healthy 12.5:1 compression ratio. Specifications for the mechanical camshaft were .562 intake, .584 exhaust lift; 354° intake and 360° exhaust duration. The bottom end was of course all forged with 4-bolt main bearing caps. Although no horsepower figures for the L-88 were released by Chevrolet in 1967, they arbitrarily tagged the virtually identical 1968 version at 430. True figures were probably in the 500 range. L-89: (also not in 1965) 1968-1969 396/375 HP, same as L-78 but with optional closed chamber square port aluminum heads for Nova and Camaro. 1968 427/425 HP Corvette, same as L-71 but with optional closed chamber square port aluminum heads. PS. I didn't really know about L-88's and L-89's but when aaw1255 said that there were L-88's and L-89's, I just wanted to tell you that I knew that there were L-88's and L-89's, but in reality, they were introduced farther down the road from 1965. I apologize, but still, here you go, I got some information on the L-88 and L-89's... Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... Please educate me then. What is a 1965 Chevelle L-88 or L-89? I hope you WERE paying attention Chad so you can teach me something and make us all proud with all this knowledge from the List. Remember 1965. Not 1966-72 options. In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:16:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: haha, i just got from aaw1255 that there are L-88's AND L-89's. Turns out that I was the one PAYING ATTENTION... :) Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... What is an L-89 or 88 65 Chevelle? Do you mean an L-79 327/350. If you do then you haven't been paying attention to the list or the books. If there is, then I haven't been paying attention. Anyone else? Phil G. 65 SS MCC #36 ACES #555 TC #1766 In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:23:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was wondering what are a couple of the rarest cars you can get? The only ones I can think of right now are: 1965 Chevy Chevelle Z-16 1970 Buick Gran Sport Stage 1 1970 Chevy Chevelle LS-5 (rarer than LS - 6) 1964 AC Cobra 427 1969 Yenko Camaro, Chevelle, and Nova 1963 Corvette Split Window 1965 Chevelle L-89 (or 88) 1969 (or 70) Daytona Charger 1970 Plymouth Superbird 1968 - 1970 Hemi Cuda, Roadrunner, Charger 1966 GTO Tri-Power 1967 - 1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 / GT500 Any I missed? I know It's hard to name all cause sometimes it can just even be very rare cause of car color! Chad - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Same here, I just want to enjoy that Bowtie! Take Care... Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... Thanks Chad. Glad we all learned something. No more from me on the subject. I just don't know that much about 66-72's or BB's. I just enjoy them. I'm a 1965 SS guy! PHIL G. 65 SS In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 2:28:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: L-88: Introduced in 1967 (so I'm guessing they weren't in 1965). quoted from Year One - The L-88 engine was basically a race engine built only in sufficient quantities to satisfy the homologation rules of various racing sanctioning bodies. These engines featured either cast-iron or aluminum heads (aluminum heads were optional) and a healthy 12.5:1 compression ratio. Specifications for the mechanical camshaft were .562 intake, .584 exhaust lift; 354° intake and 360° exhaust duration. The bottom end was of course all forged with 4-bolt main bearing caps. Although no horsepower figures for the L-88 were released by Chevrolet in 1967, they arbitrarily tagged the virtually identical 1968 version at 430. True figures were probably in the 500 range. L-89: (also not in 1965) 1968-1969 396/375 HP, same as L-78 but with optional closed chamber square port aluminum heads for Nova and Camaro. 1968 427/425 HP Corvette, same as L-71 but with optional closed chamber square port aluminum heads. PS. I didn't really know about L-88's and L-89's but when aaw1255 said that there were L-88's and L-89's, I just wanted to tell you that I knew that there were L-88's and L-89's, but in reality, they were introduced farther down the road from 1965. I apologize, but still, here you go, I got some information on the L-88 and L-89's... Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... Please educate me then. What is a 1965 Chevelle L-88 or L-89? I hope you WERE paying attention Chad so you can teach me something and make us all proud with all this knowledge from the List. Remember 1965. Not 1966-72 options. In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:16:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: haha, i just got from aaw1255 that there are L-88's AND L-89's. Turns out that I was the one PAYING ATTENTION... :) Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... What is an L-89 or 88 65 Chevelle? Do you mean an L-79 327/350. If you do then you haven't been paying attention to the list or the books. If there is, then I haven't been paying attention. Anyone else? Phil G. 65 SS MCC #36 ACES #555 TC #1766 In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:23:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was wondering what are a couple of the rarest cars you can get? The only ones I can think of right now are: 1965 Chevy Chevelle Z-16 1970 Buick Gran Sport Stage 1 1970 Chevy Chevelle LS-5 (rarer than LS - 6) 1964 AC Cobra 427 1969 Yenko Camaro, Chevelle, and Nova 1963 Corvette Split Window 1965 Chevelle L-89 (or 88) 1969 (or 70) Daytona Charger 1970 Plymouth Superbird 1968 - 1970 Hemi Cuda, Roadrunner, Charger 1966 GTO Tri-Power 1967 - 1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 / GT500 Any I missed? I know It's hard to name all cause sometimes it can just even be very rare cause of car color! Chad - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL
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How about the Canadian variants? For example, my '68 Pontiac Beaumont SD396 coupe (702 built, estimated 15 still on the road). It's for sale if anyone is interested. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chad PlaysoSent: July 29, 2002 11:24 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... I was wondering what are a couple of the rarest cars you can get? The only ones I can think of right now are: 1965 Chevy Chevelle Z-16 1970 BuickGran Sport Stage 1 1970 Chevy Chevelle LS-5 (rarer than LS - 6) 1964 ACCobra 427 1969 Yenko Camaro, Chevelle, and Nova 1963 Corvette Split Window 1965 Chevelle L-89 (or 88) 1969 (or 70) Daytona Charger 1970 Plymouth Superbird 1968 - 1970 Hemi Cuda,Roadrunner, Charger 1966 GTO Tri-Power 1967 - 1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 / GT500 Any I missed? I know It's hard to name all cause sometimes it can just even be very rare cause of car color! Chad
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Guys, you have probably never heard of Troll, the only norwegian car ever built (except the electric ones). You got that rightgot any pics of it? Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com
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I have heard that the '69 GTO Judge was a limited production car; something like 970 units! That would be a rare bird. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kelly C. HannaSent: Monday, July 29, 2002 8:08 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... Guys, you have probably never heard of Troll, the only norwegian car everbuilt (except the electric ones). You got that rightgot any pics of it?Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com
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There is a guy I work with at the mine that is in the middle of restoring a '70 LS-5..I don't think he knows what he's got though..How rare it is I mean.. John
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I know what you mean, my dad's friend has a 1970 Buick GS Stage 1 and just thinks that there are a lot of them, but in reality, only - if im not mistaken - 672 were made...my dadis not going to tell him how rare it is as he is thinking about selling it for 15 grand...Perfect Condition! - Original Message - From: malibuSS To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... There is a guy I work with at the mine that is in the middle of restoring a '70 LS-5..I don't think he knows what he's got though..How rare it is I mean.. John
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How about the reportedly only surviving documentedaluminum head 1968 396 Chevelleleft of seven ever made owned by Texas collector Bob Macy? http://www.midwestchevelles.com/past_shows/mw2000/p233.jpg Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chad PlaysoSent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:24 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... I was wondering what are a couple of the rarest cars you can get? The only ones I can think of right now are: 1965 Chevy Chevelle Z-16 1970 BuickGran Sport Stage 1 1970 Chevy Chevelle LS-5 (rarer than LS - 6) 1964 ACCobra 427 1969 Yenko Camaro, Chevelle, and Nova 1963 Corvette Split Window 1965 Chevelle L-89 (or 88) 1969 (or 70) Daytona Charger 1970 Plymouth Superbird 1968 - 1970 Hemi Cuda,Roadrunner, Charger 1966 GTO Tri-Power 1967 - 1970 Shelby Mustang GT350 / GT500 Any I missed? I know It's hard to name all cause sometimes it can just even be very rare cause of car color! Chad
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I don't think 69 396 post cars are quite that rare (6 built). I used to have one (http://www.dalesplace.com/images/gallery/69/69ss.jpg and http://www.dalesplace.com/images/gallery/69/69ss_2.jpg) I bought from the original owner in the early 70's. Rumor I heard back then was around 1400 but maybe someone with Dan Carr's poster can give a more accurate (extrapolated) number? The only options on mine were the SS package, TH400, AM radio and power steering. Even had the bench seat and rubber floor mats. Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 12:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Rarest Cars in the US... There is a 70 396 car that is rarer than the LS6. I forget the RPO, but if i can recall, it is an L89 ragtop. There is also a 69 396 post car that there were like 6 made. One of them was at Super Chevy in Maple Grove. I also know of a 1930 Cadillac Limo that has a V-16 in it and is valued at least around the $500,000 mark Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
