Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-14 Thread Martin Ellison
I should also add, in regard to the icon controversy:

The user interface should be organized around the user's workflow (that is,
the workflow of whoever is editing the video using Cinelerra) . The
important thing is that they are able to manipulate the workspace (the media
assets, the clips, the EDL) in the way most conducive to producing the right
output. The visual appearance of the interface is important to the extent
that it facilitates or hinders that purpose eg can the user find thae
function that they need by looking at the icons? is the interface clear and
easy to read?

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Re: [CinCVS] RE: Cinelerra digest, Vol 1 #1846 - 11 msgs

2007-08-14 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, marquitux caballero wrote:

> when I talk about the effects, I MEAN THE EFFECTS, nos just the ICONS, come
> on, I agree, those HORRIBLE  year old boy drawings, ARE NOT THE PROBLEM, I
> mean REALLY, THE EFFECTS ITSELF
> are TERRIBLE in cinelerra, this is what I meant:
> http://cowcast.creativecow.net/after_effects/index.html
>
> look the way the effects are applied, and the general workflow, is GREAT,
> but still...

So please enlighten me. You have found a great tool named Adobe
Aftereffects. You bought it legally and use it in your daily work.

Now I wonder, why do you look at another tool, and start to complain about
it? Instead of giving a hands-on guide to make it better, or even make it
better yourself.


Seriously it is nice that technically Cinelerra can capture movies using
the V4L interface. But I am *never* using this because of the worst
possible performance. Do you really think I use Cinelerra to cut 10
seconds of an excisting movie? No @[EMAIL PROTECTED] way, I use ffmpeg for that.

The effects I played with in Cinelerra were for audio, and I could do a
much better job with specific tools for it. And I really see no need what
so ever to use effects as "Delay TV" or what so ever in any production.


Now in my way of editing I could probably use ffmpeg to stich every scene
to eachother and get a nice file out of it. But I find it nice to see what
I am doing and like to make some sweeps etc.


So if you think the effects in Cinelerra are terrible, don't use them. I
actually think some of them are very cool especially the live
Chroma-keying. http://heroinewarrior.com/chromakey.jpg



Stefan


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Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-14 Thread Martin Ellison
Free/open source projects that succeed seem to follow the pattern of moving
as much functionality as possible out into plugins/modules that can be
decoupled from the core code. This makes for something of a "Darwinian"
development process as individual plugins can be written, debugged put into
the optional list, tried out, used, and ultimately replaced. Also it makes
it easier to code, test and understand the code.

I would suggest:

   - have test benches for plugins so they can be debugged and tested
   independently of the main program.
   - use Cinelerra-independent standard interfaces if possible, so that
   the plugins can be reused in other projects, and other project's plugins can
   be used in Cinelerra.

Generally go for standard everything (and cross-platform) if at all
possible, you get more people who already know it:

   - C or C++, python, ant, wxWidgets (what does Cinelerra use at the
   moment?)
   - there is a standard Edit Decision List (EDL) format out there; could
   Cinelerra use that too?




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[CinCVS] RE: Cinelerra digest, Vol 1 #1846 - 11 msgs

2007-08-14 Thread marquitux caballero

thanks for the reply, was very useful for me.
when I decided turn to cinelerra, I mean BUSSINESS, and I will keep doing 
it. I love cinelerra, but the ME of the 90s, just the way I like MOON LANDER 
or PRINCE OF PERSIA, not in the same way as Quake 4  :)


when I talk about the effects, I MEAN THE EFFECTS, nos just the ICONS, come 
on, I agree, those HORRIBLE  year old boy drawings, ARE NOT THE PROBLEM, I 
mean REALLY, THE EFFECTS ITSELF

are TERRIBLE in cinelerra, this is what I meant:
http://cowcast.creativecow.net/after_effects/index.html

look the way the effects are applied, and the general workflow, is GREAT, 
but still...


I payed with many THEMES for cinelerra, but I could never got to compile it, 
I´ve  drawn many beautifull icons, but what is that good for?


marquitux.


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   4. Re: WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone? (Herman Robak)
   5. Re: WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING?  ...anyone? (Christian Thaeter)
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   8. setting for encoders (Edouard Chalaron)
   9. Re: WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING?  ...anyone? (David Kletzli)
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:24:35 -0500
From: "Timothy Baldridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?
Reply-To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no

Well said, I feel the same about Cinelerra.

If nothing else, replace those horrible effects icons with something
that at least tries to look professional.

Timothy
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Subject: Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?
From: Edouard Chalaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:32:01 +1200
Reply-To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no


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Well I am sorry, but the way icons look is of the last relevance

I don't work better because icons look better. They could look better
but I could not care less either.
Moreover they probably are gif files in a corner of the source
directories ...

If conversely someone could write something "in depth" about keyframing
that would be great.
Thanks
E


On Tue, 2007-08-14 at 15:24 -0500, Timothy Baldridge wrote:

> Well said, I feel the same about Cinelerra.
>
> If nothing else, replace those horrible effects icons with something
> that at least tries to look professional.
>
> Timothy

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Well I am sorry, but the way icons look is of the last relevance 

I don't work better because icons look better. They could look better but I 
could not care less either.
Moreover they probably are gif files in a corner of the source directories 
...


If conversely someone could write something "in depth" about 
keyframing that would be great.

Thanks
E


On Tue, 2007-08-14 at 15:24 -0500, Timothy Baldridge wrote:


Well said, I feel the same about Cinelerra.

If nothing else, replace those horrible effects icons 
with something

that at least tries to look professional.

Timothy





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From: David McNab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:01:25 +1200
Subject: [CinCVS] idea for irc logging tweak
Reply-To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no

Hi,

I'm wondering if the IRC logging could benefit from auto-segmenting, to
make it easier to search.

How it could work is that a new file gets started if one of the
following occurs:
 - file size grows over (say) 4k, AND more than 10 minutes elapses
   without a post (apart from join/leave/away/nick messages)
 - file size grows over 8k

This way, the irc log would be broken up into more easily searchable
fragments.

T

Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-14 Thread Christian Thaeter
David Kletzli wrote:
> I really have to learn how to use a wiki...
> 
> On the site, I noticed you want to keep as much as you can to C coding.  That 
> said, has anyone considered using Qt for a GUI front-end (or at least the 
> qmake mechanism)?
First is was just up to reply following text to Fred Williams:
"""
Just before someone complains that I told we don't take user requests
for cinelerra3 some explanation:
* we currently work under the hood, how the render pipeline is
constucted, how files are accessed and cached, how plugins are loaded
into the core, how to interface different programming languages and so on.
* A new GUI is far out of topic yet (and for long time comeing) and we
don't want to be disturbed by Qt vs. Gtk flamewars.
* When we start a new GUI (in 1-2 years?) first and foremost it should
be functionally as identical as possible to the existing GUI.
* After that we need to add some sane way to support the new features
which will be there by then (more modifications on the render pipe etc)
* Finally completely new features may be added, maybe users have ideas
we don't know about, lets see. I opt for a 'add only, dont alter/remove'
  functionality (with *very* careful exceptions)
* as ongoing effort we would consider how to improve existing usability
in a convinient way, where user feedback and testing would be welcome.
"""

> It might make it easier to build Cinelerra for multiple platforms and expand 
> the user base.

Multiplatform is far more than a build system and gui toolkit decision.
Cinelerra is free software and we target Linux, at a lesser degree we
might target other unix'ish platforms (thats not too complicated Edward
Sutton already maintains a FreeBSD port). But considering our very low
developer resources, the non-freeness of some other OSes, a broad
competition of other products on mainstream desktop OSes, the uglyness
of Win32 API's (and aqua likely too?) and many many other things. I'd
just say no thanks I don't care for such portability. The price is just
to high. That saied, if someone else wants to maintain ports to non
free/nonunix OSes, go ahead, his contributions will be welcome.

About build system: we currently trying to use some in parallel (namely
scons and automake, someone wants to provide help with cmake?), as long
we are testing and playing and the project is quite small this gives a
good prooving ground for later decisions which we want to keep. Actually
i am a bit pissed about any system and written
http://www.pipapo.org/pipawiki/BuildingSoftware , even started to play a
bit with the idea, but put that on ice, as long no one will help with
such a project, its just to time consuming for me.

Christian


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Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra productions

2007-08-14 Thread IL'dar AKHmetgaleev
Hello again.

I have just finished uploading of my movie "Mansour" to archive.org.

Now you can watch it in full resolution with English subtitles.
http://www.archive.org/details/Mansour._A_Lyrical_Portrait_of_an_Artist

Click FTP or HTTP right of "All files" to get subtitles.

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Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-14 Thread David Kletzli
I really have to learn how to use a wiki...

On the site, I noticed you want to keep as much as you can to C coding.  That 
said, has anyone considered using Qt for a GUI front-end (or at least the 
qmake mechanism)?

It might make it easier to build Cinelerra for multiple platforms and expand 
the user base.

Just a thought...

Dave

On Tuesday 14 August 2007 18:28, Christian Thaeter wrote:
> marquitux caballero wrote:
> > in the comunity very cool people tried to explain me thos things, but
> > they seems to be very focused in specific issues, and those BASIC
> > things, are not important  in this part of the coding process, and they
> > told me those things are BUGs... really? bugs? or bad plannig, or even
> > no global vision?
>
> Few people from IRC gathered together to plan a rewrite/redesign of what
> ought to become 'Cinelerra 3'.
>
> Please take a look at:
> http://www.pipapo.org/pipawiki/Cinelerra3/DesignProcess/Manifest
> http://www.pipapo.org/pipawiki/Cinelerra3
>
> So far we have very cool ideas about a new design which allows a lot of
> things which are currently not possible, some coding has started but
> this is rather in a experimental, preparation phase.
>
> The downside is that we massively lack developers, unfortunally many
> previous contributors fallen away because they finished university, got
> new jobs or whatever. We aim to make cinelerra3 a open project where
> anyone can join and help as much as possible! If you are coder and
> interested, just join us.
>
> I've send a http://www.pipapo.org/pipawiki/Cinelerra3/Announcement about
> this 'cinelerra 3' project to all developers, so far the responses where
> very sparse but postive.
>
> A note to all 'users' reading this: Please refrain from sending feature
> request and ideas to us, its way to early and only costs our time to
> explain that we consider this things later. Ichthyo and me decided to
> design cin3 from ground up. Interested people should start by checking
> out the git repositories and review what is there. If you know how to do
> things better ask the responsive author of the current thing on IRC or
> via mail and do a discussion with the involved people about it. Speaking
> for me, I would like to see improvements and new ideas, but I don't want
> to become overthrown by people just dropping ideas and then disappear.
>
> Further note about HV's involvement: I informed him at first about this
> ideas, but his responses are sparse as usual. It is clear that this may
> only become Cinelerra 3 if he acknowledge on this project at some time
> and he is invited to join and contribute whenever and as much he wants
> to do (we aim to reuse code and ideas from cin2 anyways). Cinelerra is a
> heroinewarrior project, Cinelerra CV is a (friendly) fork of it, we
> don't want to take over the project, our goal is just to make the best
> free Linux Video editor in existence :).
>
>   Christian
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[CinCVS] setting for encoders

2007-08-14 Thread Edouard Chalaron
Hi all
I'd like to modify a couple of parameters in the x264 encoding facility.
Is there a x264.rc or equivalent anywhere ?
Same for mpeg encoding in 422, I'd like to turn the high quantization
on.
Thanks and Regards


Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-14 Thread Fred Williams
On Wed, 2007-15-08 at 00:21 +0200, Herman Robak wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:32:01 +0200, Edouard Chalaron  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Well I am sorry, but the way icons look is of the last relevance
> >
> > I don't work better because icons look better. They could look better
> > but I could not care less either.
> 
>   Same here.  But people _will_ complain about the things they see,
> perceive or understand.  So we will keep hearing complaints about
> the colours and the icons until they become more in style with the
> flavour of the month.

Well, I don't write here often, but it doesn't bode well for the future
of the product if developers don't care about things that the end users
want to see.  It makes me nervous about what might become of Cinelerra.
Keep the good stuff, please, because I like the thing.  If there's
streamlining that can be done, great, but the interface, icons
notwithstanding, has been good.  I like working with it, what little
I've done, and I don't want to have to stop and learn a new system.  For
goodness sakes remember to document too.


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Re: [CinCVS] #cinelerra irc channel usage

2007-08-14 Thread Kevin Brosius
Scott wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-08-13 at 14:17 +0200, Christian Thaeter wrote:
> > I never felt comfortable with the public logging. IRC is meant to be a
> > volatile place where humans meet and talk, this is also a social part of
> > the community, you wouldn't like either if your pub-talks are logged,

Maybe some irc, but this is a freenode channel associated with a
development project, not a pub.

> > even if you meet with programmer buddies at the pub! IMO there is no
> > much benefit of (public) logging an irc channel its rather even
> > contraproductive for serveral reasons:
> > * Things will be on google for eternity, one has to fear that things he
> > saied could be misinterpreted out of context.

Haha, I suspect you and I will never agree on this, but...
  * Google doesn't store 'things'
  * This is a good time to learn to apologize if you act like an idiot
at some point.  We are all human, after all.  Having the full content of
any such discussions allows all to review any questionable discussion. 
People can judge for themselves what was said, rather then having to
rely on someones private logs.
  * I find it humorous that some people think there is privacy online. 
I humbly suggest you will find your online experience much easier if you
assume anything you do online (irc, email, web site) in cleartext is
public.


> > * The signal to noise ratio is very high, you have to read pages of logs
> > to gather little usable information.
> > * in an chat are many errors, assumptions, half baked ideas, rumors.
> > * People who know that this is logged are less motivated to write
> > conclusions down to some formal/official document.
> >
> I am one of those odd people who actually read and occasionally glean
> some knowledge from the IRC logs, so please don't take away IRC logging.
> scott

Several people like the idea of logging.  Until those against it vote
more strongly, I think it should stay also.

In larger channels I am involved with, you can assume that several
regulars log the channel all the time.  I personally see the #cinelerra
logger as a way to simplify everyones life who might like a log, but not
be able to/or want to run a client full time.

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Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-14 Thread Christian Thaeter
marquitux caballero wrote:
> in the comunity very cool people tried to explain me thos things, but
> they seems to be very focused in specific issues, and those BASIC
> things, are not important  in this part of the coding process, and they
> told me those things are BUGs... really? bugs? or bad plannig, or even
> no global vision?

Few people from IRC gathered together to plan a rewrite/redesign of what
ought to become 'Cinelerra 3'.

Please take a look at:
http://www.pipapo.org/pipawiki/Cinelerra3/DesignProcess/Manifest
http://www.pipapo.org/pipawiki/Cinelerra3

So far we have very cool ideas about a new design which allows a lot of
things which are currently not possible, some coding has started but
this is rather in a experimental, preparation phase.

The downside is that we massively lack developers, unfortunally many
previous contributors fallen away because they finished university, got
new jobs or whatever. We aim to make cinelerra3 a open project where
anyone can join and help as much as possible! If you are coder and
interested, just join us.

I've send a http://www.pipapo.org/pipawiki/Cinelerra3/Announcement about
this 'cinelerra 3' project to all developers, so far the responses where
very sparse but postive.

A note to all 'users' reading this: Please refrain from sending feature
request and ideas to us, its way to early and only costs our time to
explain that we consider this things later. Ichthyo and me decided to
design cin3 from ground up. Interested people should start by checking
out the git repositories and review what is there. If you know how to do
things better ask the responsive author of the current thing on IRC or
via mail and do a discussion with the involved people about it. Speaking
for me, I would like to see improvements and new ideas, but I don't want
to become overthrown by people just dropping ideas and then disappear.

Further note about HV's involvement: I informed him at first about this
ideas, but his responses are sparse as usual. It is clear that this may
only become Cinelerra 3 if he acknowledge on this project at some time
and he is invited to join and contribute whenever and as much he wants
to do (we aim to reuse code and ideas from cin2 anyways). Cinelerra is a
heroinewarrior project, Cinelerra CV is a (friendly) fork of it, we
don't want to take over the project, our goal is just to make the best
free Linux Video editor in existence :).

Christian

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Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-14 Thread Herman Robak
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:32:01 +0200, Edouard Chalaron  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Well I am sorry, but the way icons look is of the last relevance

I don't work better because icons look better. They could look better
but I could not care less either.


 Same here.  But people _will_ complain about the things they see,
perceive or understand.  So we will keep hearing complaints about
the colours and the icons until they become more in style with the
flavour of the month.

 The developers don't feel strongly motivated by that, though.
I am not shaming the developers for not caring about the end
users' complaints.  Nor am I shaming end users for complaining
about things that the developers never will consider urgent.
I am just pointing it out.  If you want to vent here anyway,
I don't mind. :-)


 In light of this, I think Christian Thäter's protocols for
work on Cin3 are clever.  You have to hang around on IRC and
poke around with the git repositories, regularily.  If you
don't, you are out of the loop.
 People who are "talkers" and not "doers" will have to spend
a lot of energy just to stay in the loop.  They will either
get a more intimate insight into which ways things are going,
and why, or they will get fed up and leave.
 It makes trolling much more expensive, and it makes the
"doers" stand more clearly out.

 These are interesting times :-)

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[CinCVS] idea for irc logging tweak

2007-08-14 Thread David McNab
Hi,

I'm wondering if the IRC logging could benefit from auto-segmenting, to
make it easier to search.

How it could work is that a new file gets started if one of the
following occurs:
 - file size grows over (say) 4k, AND more than 10 minutes elapses
   without a post (apart from join/leave/away/nick messages)
 - file size grows over 8k

This way, the irc log would be broken up into more easily searchable
fragments.

Thoughts?

David



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Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-14 Thread Edouard Chalaron

Well I am sorry, but the way icons look is of the last relevance 

I don't work better because icons look better. They could look better
but I could not care less either.
Moreover they probably are gif files in a corner of the source
directories ...

If conversely someone could write something "in depth" about keyframing
that would be great.
Thanks
E


On Tue, 2007-08-14 at 15:24 -0500, Timothy Baldridge wrote:

> Well said, I feel the same about Cinelerra.
> 
> If nothing else, replace those horrible effects icons with something
> that at least tries to look professional.
> 
> Timothy


Re: [CinCVS] WHERE CINELERRA IS GOING? ...anyone?

2007-08-14 Thread Timothy Baldridge
Well said, I feel the same about Cinelerra.

If nothing else, replace those horrible effects icons with something
that at least tries to look professional.

Timothy
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Allison

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Re: [CinCVS] What I've been up to

2007-08-14 Thread Mark Carter
I've no plans just now. I'd like to give ficl a few more non-Cinelerra specific 
words, like "getenv". Not very exciting for you, but it will serve a purpose 
later. I'm also inclined to think about a generic interface layer so that any 
scripting language could be incorporated into Cinelerra. That might be quite 
amibitious, though, to assume that I could succeed where has SWIG has not fully 
succeeded. FFIs - don't you just love them.

ficl is capable of segfaulting (ouch) - which has nothing to do with Cinelerra 
- but unfortunately means that ficl /could/ bring Cinelerra down.




- Original Message 
From: David McNab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Sent: Monday, 13 August, 2007 10:22:15 PM
Subject: Re: [CinCVS] What I've been up to


On Mon, 2007-08-13 at 21:41 +0100, mark carter wrote:
> Feel free to drool now ;)

Why not publish your proposed final cinelerra-forth wordlist. That could
get me drooling ;)

Cheers
David




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[CinCVS] Re: Compile error on bleeding edge Sidux.

2007-08-14 Thread Søren Renner
Found it! Package "libxv-dev".

On 8/14/07, Søren Renner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What package (Debian unstable) provides Xvlib.h?
> 
> g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I../quicktime -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE
> -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -g -O2 -MT bcbitmap.lo
> -MD -MP -MF .deps/bcbitmap.Tpo -c bcbitmap.C  -fPIC -DPIC -o
> .libs/bcbitmap.o
> In file included from bcbitmap.C:1:
> bcbitmap.h:8:34: error: X11/extensions/Xvlib.h: No such file or directory
> ...
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Re: [CinCVS] Fixing compile warnings

2007-08-14 Thread Herman Robak

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:29:03 +0200,  wrote:

Note: As it seems this list doesn't allow annonymous posting, I've  
temporary

subscribed to it. But I'd strongly suggest that you implement some way of
contacting you without subscribing to a mailing-list.


 There is.  You can send mail directly to me, or to the mailing list.
If you post to cinelerra@skolelinux.no without subscribing, your mail
will be sent to the moderator, which happens to be me.

 To begin with this list was wide open.  When the spam started to
outnumber the real traffic, I turned on moderation of non-subscribers.
Posts from non-subscribers that are indeed about Cinelerra (that is,
not spam) is usually let through.  But there is a delay, of course.

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[CinCVS] Compile error on bleeding edge Sidux.

2007-08-14 Thread Søren Renner
What package (Debian unstable) provides Xvlib.h?

g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I../quicktime -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE
-D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -g -O2 -MT bcbitmap.lo
-MD -MP -MF .deps/bcbitmap.Tpo -c bcbitmap.C  -fPIC -DPIC -o
.libs/bcbitmap.o
In file included from bcbitmap.C:1:
bcbitmap.h:8:34: error: X11/extensions/Xvlib.h: No such file or directory
...

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[CinCVS] Fixing compile warnings

2007-08-14 Thread Hanno Böck
Note: As it seems this list doesn't allow annonymous posting, I've temporary 
subscribed to it. But I'd strongly suggest that you implement some way of 
contacting you without subscribing to a mailing-list.



Attached a trivial patch to fix a bunch of compile warnings. Please apply (and 
replys to me off-list, I'm not subscribed).

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GPG: 3DBD3B20   Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- cinelerra-cvs/libmpeg3/audio/mpeg3audio.c	2007-01-29 22:36:44.0 +0100
+++ cinelerra-cvs-1/libmpeg3/audio/mpeg3audio.c	2007-07-31 21:13:30.0 +0200
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
 
 #include 
 #include 
-
+#include 
 
 
 
--- cinelerra-cvs/libmpeg3/video/subtitle.c	2007-01-29 22:36:48.0 +0100
+++ cinelerra-cvs-1/libmpeg3/video/subtitle.c	2007-07-31 21:15:47.0 +0200
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
 #include "mpeg3protos.h"
 
 #include 
+#include 
 
 static unsigned char get_nibble(unsigned char **ptr, int *nibble)
 {
--- cinelerra-cvs/quicktime/interlacemodes.c	2007-01-29 22:35:57.0 +0100
+++ cinelerra-cvs-1/quicktime/interlacemodes.c	2007-07-31 21:18:22.0 +0200
@@ -17,6 +17,7 @@
 
 #include 
 #include 
+#include 
 
 #ifndef HAVE_STDINT_H
 #define HAVE_STDINT_H
--- cinelerra-cvs/mpeg2enc/putbits.c	2007-01-29 22:36:44.0 +0100
+++ cinelerra-cvs-1/mpeg2enc/putbits.c	2007-07-31 21:19:40.0 +0200
@@ -28,6 +28,7 @@
  */
 
 #include 
+#include 
 #include "config.h"
 #include "global.h"
 
--- cinelerra-cvs/mpeg2enc/readpic.c	2007-01-29 22:36:44.0 +0100
+++ cinelerra-cvs-1/mpeg2enc/readpic.c	2007-07-31 21:20:31.0 +0200
@@ -29,6 +29,7 @@
 
 #include 
 #include 
+#include 
 #include "colormodels.h"
 #include "config.h"
 #include "global.h"


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Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra productions

2007-08-14 Thread Raffaella Traniello
Jonas,

I think what makes Internet Archive quite unique is its aim.
http://www.archive.org/about/about.php

I'm definitely very impressed (shocked actually) by your movie after
having taken just a sniff.
I can't wait to watch it! :-)

Ciao
Raffaella



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