[CinCV] change fieldorder, doubling framerate
Hello everybody Having some trouble I checked the webarchive but found mainly a lot of which is code I pressume. I cannot even read it. In the dark ages of computers I learned some programming in basic, that's all. I am also new to video editing. I want to use video and Cinelerra for motion analysis in sports. Yet I haven't been successful in producing any usable clips for that purpose. According to advise on the web I captured with Kino in Quicktime format. I use a Sony dv camcorder with interlace (PAL) Searching the web I already found Cinelerra by default uses the wrong field order, which I found to break chronology of frames when using the field to frame effect. What I want is doubling framerate, change fieldorder, field to frames, interpolate to full frames, stabilize the subject, render it, give the individual clips a name and store them in a database. Having done that I can analyze sport movements in slow motion or frame by frame in 50 frames per second resolution. My questions; is this the right sequence, or should I change the order of actions? can I do all this in a single pass, it is called a pipe if I got it right, or should I have multiple passes? In the preferences for playback I found a setting for playback of 16 frames per foot. I presume if I set this to 32 it will give me 50 frames per second, but will it work to for rendering in 50 fps or does it work only for playback? How can I change fieldorder ? (The manual says nothing about it and although I found some remarks on the web of the wrong field order I found nothing about how to change it.) As I am not a coder I cannot be of any help in developing Cinelerra, but possibly I can contribute to improving the manual so that other dummy's like me more easy learn to work with it. With kind regards, Gerrit
Re: [CinCV] change fieldorder, doubling framerate
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Gerrit de Jong wrote: In the preferences for playback I found a setting for playback of 16 frames per foot. I presume if I set this to 32 it will give me 50 frames per second, but will it work to for rendering in 50 fps or does it work only for playback? I don't think that's what you want. You have a choice of what units to use for displaying the location in the user interface - for instance, you could display it by minutes and fractional seconds, or by minutes, seconds, and frames. One of the choices is to display it by feet as if you were editing physical film. (I imagine there are people who were trained on physical film editing and are accustomed to thinking in terms of feet.) Because there are different film standards, you can choose which one to simulate by choosing a different number of frames per foot. But that only changes THE NUMBERS YOU SEE ON THE TIMELINE, and even those only if you also choose the feet option for how to display the numbers. The amount of time it really takes to play a clip has nothing to do with the units of measure you select for the display. It's like choosing whether you will weigh something in kilograms or pounds, and then choosing how many grams you will say are in a kilogram. You get different numbers depending on the choices you make, and they will be nonsense if you choose a strange number of grams per kilogram, but nothing actually gets heavier or lighter just because you changed your measurement standard. Sorry I don't have any positive suggestions on the field issues; those are unclear to me, too. But I'm sure changing the frames per foot setting won't help you. -- Matthew Skala msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca People before principles. http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/ ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] change fieldorder, doubling framerate
Quoting msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca: On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Gerrit de Jong wrote: In the preferences for playback I found a setting for playback of 16 frames per foot. I presume if I set this to 32 it will give me 50 frames per second, but will it work to for rendering in 50 fps or does it work only for playback? I don't think that's what you want. You have a choice of what units to use for displaying the location in the user interface - for instance, you could display it by minutes and fractional seconds, or by minutes, seconds, and frames. One of the choices is to display it by feet as if you were editing physical film. (I imagine there are people who were trained on physical film editing and are accustomed to thinking in terms of feet.) Because there are different film standards, you can choose which one to simulate by choosing a different number of frames per foot. But that only changes THE NUMBERS YOU SEE ON THE TIMELINE, and even those only if you also choose the feet option for how to display the numbers. The amount of time it really takes to play a clip has nothing to do with the units of measure you select for the display. It's like choosing whether you will weigh something in kilograms or pounds, and then choosing how many grams you will say are in a kilogram. You get different numbers depending on the choices you make, and they will be nonsense if you choose a strange number of grams per kilogram, but nothing actually gets heavier or lighter just because you changed your measurement standard. Sorry I don't have any positive suggestions on the field issues; those are unclear to me, too. But I'm sure changing the frames per foot setting won't help you. Dean Ashby had mucked around with Reframe RT and it sounded like that was closer to what you want. However, it was giving him fits so there may be some work to do with it. Tom King Concern for man and his fate must always form the chief interest of all technical endeavors. Never forget this in the midst of your diagrams and equations. --Albert Einstein ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
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