[CinCV] Re: Canon HF10 (Was: AVCHD editing in cinelerra?)
Hello World. I'm seriously considering buying a Canon HF10 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0012BC054/) if I can manage to blag a trip to somewhere that sells them cheaper than the UK (pretty much any country in the world, then!) Having said that, if I buy this camera am I likely to suffer the problems described in the rest of this thread? It's a lot of cash to buy it to find out and I don't know anyone who has one that I can ask. Has anyone got one of these? Any comments, either on this subject or the HF10 in general? Cheers, Marcus. -Original Message- From: "Herman Robak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:19:48 +0200 Subject: Re: [CinCV] AVCHD editing in cinelerra? On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:25:22 +0200, U.G. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I tried something to convert it to mpeg2-HD > > ffmpeg -s 1920x1080 -i HDV_0017.MP4 -vcodec mpeg2video -aspect 16:9 > -sameq -acodec copy test.mpeg > > The funny thing is, that the output file stops nearly in the same second > as cinelerra crashes with the origial file. Welcome to the world of bugs! ;-) > Let's say, the footage is about 10 seconds and cinelerra crashes at > second 3 with the MP4 file - > the converted mpeg2 file has only a length of 3 seconds, ffmpeg didn't > convert more of it at all... > > Next, I'll try it with mencoder... Are you good at scripting? Because the sorry state of affairs will persist until it is well documented, for every common tool on every common platform, for every release. And then it will persist some more, but at least many more people will know what _needs fixing_. By well documented, I mean an encoder/format matrix with 3-4 colours, ideally generated and published by a robot at regular intervals. -- Herman Robak ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra --- AV & Spam Filtering by M+Guardian - Risk Free Email (TM) --- ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: Re: Re: [CinCV] Re: Cinelerra hangs loading projects (was openSUSE 11)
Hi, It seems to be working OK at the moment, but thanks anyway for the tip. If it packs in again I'll give it a whirl. Marcus. -Original Message- From: "leandro ribeiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:56:36 +0100 Subject: Re: Re: [CinCV] Re: Cinelerra hangs loading projects (was openSUSE 11) Marcus, before you try anything that requires writing random stuff in config files, try this: Go to Settings -> Preferences -> Playback Do 3 things: 1) choose ALSA driver for Audio 2) check "Stop Playback Locks Up" 3) uncheck "Play Every Frame" I know, I know, I'm replacing "writing random stuff" with "clicking in random places" :) 2008/6/27 Marcus Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > Oddly, since just loading everything as "create resources only" and *then* > doing "replace current project" it has worked fine ever since. Got back to > rendering my work of art (ha!) again last night. > > It seemed to be hanging on the create .bcast/blah_blah_.toc files for some > reason. > > Hopefully any new stuff I create will be OK. > > Thanks again for your help. > > Marcus. > > > > -Original Message- > From: E Chalaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no > Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:43:08 +1200 > Subject: Re: [CinCV] Re: Cinelerra hangs loading projects (was openSUSE 11) > > > > Marcus Gould wrote: >> I spoke too soon! > > Marcus > Read the thread from my first post on SUSE. I thought as well that the > problem was a simple mmx thing. In fact I think I had to modify > something on the internal ffmpeg configure script. There should be more > about that in the thread > Now does it apply to your specific problem, I am not sure. > > Cheers > E > > ___ > Cinelerra mailing list > Cinelerra@skolelinux.no > https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra > > --- AV & Spam Filtering by M+Guardian - Risk Free Email (TM) --- > > > > > > ___ > Cinelerra mailing list > Cinelerra@skolelinux.no > https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra > ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra --- AV & Spam Filtering by M+Guardian - Risk Free Email (TM) --- ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: Re: [CinCV] Re: Cinelerra hangs loading projects (was openSUSE 11)
Hi, Oddly, since just loading everything as "create resources only" and *then* doing "replace current project" it has worked fine ever since. Got back to rendering my work of art (ha!) again last night. It seemed to be hanging on the create .bcast/blah_blah_.toc files for some reason. Hopefully any new stuff I create will be OK. Thanks again for your help. Marcus. -Original Message- From: E Chalaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:43:08 +1200 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Re: Cinelerra hangs loading projects (was openSUSE 11) Marcus Gould wrote: > I spoke too soon! Marcus Read the thread from my first post on SUSE. I thought as well that the problem was a simple mmx thing. In fact I think I had to modify something on the internal ffmpeg configure script. There should be more about that in the thread Now does it apply to your specific problem, I am not sure. Cheers E ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra --- AV & Spam Filtering by M+Guardian - Risk Free Email (TM) --- ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] Re: Cinelerra hangs loading projects (was openSUSE 11)
I spoke too soon! After some testing things aren't working after all. :-( The first two projects I tested did, but not the rest. Typical! When I load an .xml file of a known-working project (i.e. it was created on the same physical hardware running the Packman RPM for SLE 10.1 loading the files off the same home partition) Cinelerra hangs. The last thing I see on the console is mpeg3_read_prev_packet 1 result=0 title=0 tell=1b2e078 program_byte=1b2e078 mpeg3_read_prev_packet 100 result=0 title=0 tell=1b2d878 program_byte=1b2d878 [mpeg3io_open_file] Error opening file '/home/mgould/.bcast/home_mgould_Desktop_My_Movies_05 Bus Crash_mvi_2015 slow_m2v.toc': No such file or directory top doesn't show much activity and utilisation is bumping along the bottom. I'm using Cinelerra build 1058, libmpeg3 1.7 and internal ffmpeg. I can't currently see what links the set of projects that do work and those that don't - they're all just different scenes in the same film; the source (.m2v and .jpg) are the same and they all used to load perfectly. Any help would be appreciated and I do realise that I've probably used up my help quota for the year. UPDATE: If I load the project as "create new resources only" and then load it again as "replace current project" it appears to work, even if I quit Cinelerra and go back in - so this is a workaround. Why does it behave like this? Any ideas? Deleting the .bcast directory makes no difference. Thanks, Marcus. -Original Message- From: "Marcus Gould" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:43:56 + Subject: Re: Re: [CinCV] openSUSE 11 Hi All, Got it working! Huzzah! Looks like we needed --disable-mmx (which was buried in the archives per E Chalaron, so thanks for that). For the record... make distclean ./autogen.sh ./configure --disable-mmx make make install ldconfig That all worked but I didn't end up with any script/executable in /usr/bin. I could then only run ./cinelerra from hvirtual/cinelerra as root so I chown'd and chgrp'd everything to me and now it works. Not sure why I had to do that last bit as the destructions said to do everything as root. Anyway, things *appear* to be working although now my fonts are all knack'd - need to go find the bit about adding fonts. If I remember rightly that was a tad fraught last time I did it. Ho hum. Anyway, thanks for all your help and advice - is there anywhere we can document the key bit (./configure --disable-mmx) so that others can benefit from this experience? Thanks again, Marcus. -Original Message- From: Graham Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 07:25:42 +0800 Subject: Re: [CinCV] openSUSE 11 Hi The instructions you're following look like they might have become dated. There are patches in the current svn which should make all the -fpic and related flags automatically get set right for 64 bit builds. I suggest to try a 'naked' (no flags) configure and see if it works. ./configure Graham ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra --- AV & Spam Filtering by M+Guardian - Risk Free Email (TM) --- ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra --- AV & Spam Filtering by M+Guardian - Risk Free Email (TM) --- e: [CinCV] openSUSE 11 Hi The instructions you're following look like they might have become dated. There are patches in the current svn which should make all the -fpic and related flags automatically get set right for 64 bit builds. I suggest to try a 'naked' (no flags) configure and see if it works. ./configure Graham ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra --- AV & Spam Filtering by M+Guardian - Risk Free Email (TM) --- _ ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: Re: [CinCV] openSUSE 11
Hi All, Got it working! Huzzah! Looks like we needed --disable-mmx (which was buried in the archives per E Chalaron, so thanks for that). For the record... make distclean ./autogen.sh ./configure --disable-mmx make make install ldconfig That all worked but I didn't end up with any script/executable in /usr/bin. I could then only run ./cinelerra from hvirtual/cinelerra as root so I chown'd and chgrp'd everything to me and now it works. Not sure why I had to do that last bit as the destructions said to do everything as root. Anyway, things *appear* to be working although now my fonts are all knack'd - need to go find the bit about adding fonts. If I remember rightly that was a tad fraught last time I did it. Ho hum. Anyway, thanks for all your help and advice - is there anywhere we can document the key bit (./configure --disable-mmx) so that others can benefit from this experience? Thanks again, Marcus. -Original Message- From: Graham Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 07:25:42 +0800 Subject: Re: [CinCV] openSUSE 11 Hi The instructions you're following look like they might have become dated. There are patches in the current svn which should make all the -fpic and related flags automatically get set right for 64 bit builds. I suggest to try a 'naked' (no flags) configure and see if it works. ./configure Graham ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra --- AV & Spam Filtering by M+Guardian - Risk Free Email (TM) --- ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: Re: [CinCV] openSUSE 11
ror: suffix or operands invalid for `pop' mmxidct.S:661: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `pop' mmxidct.S:662: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `pop' mmxidct.S:663: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `pop' mmxidct.S:665: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `pop' mmxidct.S:666: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `pop' mmxidct.S:667: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `pop' mmxidct.S:668: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `pop' mmxidct.S:669: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `pop' mmxidct.S:671: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `pop' mv -f .deps/mmxidct.Tpo .deps/mmxidct.Plo /bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CC --mode=compile ../../admin/nasm -g -O2 -c -o reconmmx.lo reconmmx.s ../../admin/nasm -g -O2 -c reconmmx.s -o .libs/reconmmx.o \1 better written as $1 at ../../admin/nasm line 12. $# is no longer supported at ../../admin/nasm line 27. nasm -felf reconmmx.s -o .libs/reconmmx.o Can't exec "nasm": No such file or directory at ../../admin/nasm line 24. /bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=CC --tag=CC --mode=link gcc -DHAVE_MMX -DUSE_MMX -DX86_CPU -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -g -O2 -o libmpeg3_video.la getpicture.lo headers.lo idct.lo macroblocks.lo mmxtest.lo motion.lo mpeg3cache.lo mpeg3video.lo output.lo reconstruct.lo seek.lo slice.lo subtitle.lo vlc.lo mmxidct.lo reconmmx.lo -lm -ldl -lpthread rm -fr .libs/libmpeg3_video.a .libs/libmpeg3_video.la ar cru .libs/libmpeg3_video.a .libs/getpicture.o .libs/headers.o .libs/idct.o .libs/macroblocks.o .libs/mmxtest.o .libs/motion.o .libs/mpeg3cache.o .libs/mpeg3video.o .libs/output.o .libs/reconstruct.o .libs/seek.o .libs/slice.o .libs/subtitle.o .libs/vlc.o .libs/mmxidct.o .libs/reconmmx.o ar: .libs/mmxidct.o: No such file or directory make[3]: *** [libmpeg3_video.la] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/mgould/hvirtual/libmpeg3/video' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/mgould/hvirtual/libmpeg3' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mgould/hvirtual' make: *** [all] Error 2 If anyone is still reading at this point and hasn't wandered off into Narnia I'd love to know how to fix this and get this working. Much longer and I'll be getting so desperate I'll start offering free beer! Cheers, Marcus. -Original Message- From: "leandro ribeiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:57:53 +0100 Subject: Re: [CinCV] openSUSE 11 Hi there, Marcus! I've dealed with the same issue today, and i've decided to compile cinelerra myself. I never compile stuff, so I kind of suck at it, but I got cinelerra up and running. Believe me: if I did it, you can do it :) So, how do you compile cinelerra? Please read this part of the manual (I kind of skipped that part, which gave me alot of headaches!!!) and try it yourself: http://cinelerra.org/docs/split_manual_en/cinelerra_cv_manual_en_2.html#SEC12 I blocked with some error messages mainly because of this two points: «You probably want to enable MMX support. To do that, run ./configure with the `--enable-mmx32' option. If you do that, you may have to use the `--without-pic' option too, otherwise, compilation may fail.» AND «Finally run as root (for first time compilation only): ldconfig» Don't skip those two steps, please :) About dependencies: what I did (and I must enfathize that I'm not that good at this compiling stuff, so there must be a better way!!!) was: After "./configure" a lot of "missing" flags showed up. I went to Yast and I searched for those missing files. Sometimes you will not find exactly the same file, so search for the most similiar ones and install the ones that have a "-devel" thing. Repeat "./configure" until no "missing" flags pop up. That was clumbsy, I know, but it worked :) Try it and tell us how it went. Good luck, Leandro 2008/6/23 Marcus Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello World. > > I'm a SUSE user and recently upgraded to openSUSE 11 and, oh no, Cinelerra no > longer works! > > Does anyone know if a package will be available from Packman > (http://packman.links2linux.org/package/cinelerra) or somewhere similar any > time soon? > > There's nothing at the openSUSE community site > (http://packages.opensuse-community.org) either. :-( > > Any help appreciated. > > Thanks, > > > > Marcus. > > > > ___ > Cinelerra mailing list > Cinelerra@skolelinux.no > https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra > ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra --- AV & Spam Filtering by M+Guardian - Risk Free Email (TM) --- ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: Re: [CinCV] openSUSE 11
Hi, Thanks for that. I've been thinking that I may end having to compile it myself so it's encouraging to know that it's doable. As I need my laptop for work I'll try it this weekend in case I knacker it - then I'll have the rest of the weekend to fix it. I'll let you know how I get on. Cheers! Marcus. -Original Message- From: "leandro ribeiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:57:53 +0100 Subject: Re: [CinCV] openSUSE 11 Hi there, Marcus! I've dealed with the same issue today, and i've decided to compile cinelerra myself. I never compile stuff, so I kind of suck at it, but I got cinelerra up and running. Believe me: if I did it, you can do it :) So, how do you compile cinelerra? Please read this part of the manual (I kind of skipped that part, which gave me alot of headaches!!!) and try it yourself: http://cinelerra.org/docs/split_manual_en/cinelerra_cv_manual_en_2.html#SEC12 I blocked with some error messages mainly because of this two points: «You probably want to enable MMX support. To do that, run ./configure with the `--enable-mmx32' option. If you do that, you may have to use the `--without-pic' option too, otherwise, compilation may fail.» AND «Finally run as root (for first time compilation only): ldconfig» Don't skip those two steps, please :) About dependencies: what I did (and I must enfathize that I'm not that good at this compiling stuff, so there must be a better way!!!) was: After "./configure" a lot of "missing" flags showed up. I went to Yast and I searched for those missing files. Sometimes you will not find exactly the same file, so search for the most similiar ones and install the ones that have a "-devel" thing. Repeat "./configure" until no "missing" flags pop up. That was clumbsy, I know, but it worked :) Try it and tell us how it went. Good luck, Leandro 2008/6/23 Marcus Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello World. > > I'm a SUSE user and recently upgraded to openSUSE 11 and, oh no, Cinelerra no > longer works! > > Does anyone know if a package will be available from Packman > (http://packman.links2linux.org/package/cinelerra) or somewhere similar any > time soon? > > There's nothing at the openSUSE community site > (http://packages.opensuse-community.org) either. :-( > > Any help appreciated. > > Thanks, > > > > Marcus. > > > > ___ > Cinelerra mailing list > Cinelerra@skolelinux.no > https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra > ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra --- AV & Spam Filtering by M+Guardian - Risk Free Email (TM) --- ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] openSUSE 11
Hello World. I'm a SUSE user and recently upgraded to openSUSE 11 and, oh no, Cinelerra no longer works! Does anyone know if a package will be available from Packman (http://packman.links2linux.org/package/cinelerra) or somewhere similar any time soon? There's nothing at the openSUSE community site (http://packages.opensuse-community.org) either. :-( Any help appreciated. Thanks, Marcus. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Introduction...
That's cool! Thank you very much. Marcus. >>> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 7:55 AM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jan Jockusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Marcus, > >> My name's Marcus and I'm from the UK. This is my first post. >> > Welcome to the list! [snip] ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] Introduction...
Hello World, My name's Marcus and I'm from the UK. This is my first post. I've become a big fan of Cinelerra in the few months I've been using it. It's a compelling reason to use Linux as far as I'm concerned! Love it! Keep up the good work. Knowing how each and every mailing list and forum has its own netiquette I hope I don't break the rules too soon. I have checked through the archives without much success and think I already know the answer to this one anyway, but here goes: I've taken a bunch of video on my little compact camera at 30fps. Rendering it to PAL 25fps gives the dreaded judder. I've been reading up on this and it's a known and common problem. Having said that, is there any way in Cinelerra to reduce the impact or cleverly disguise it? Can I ask a second question? Again, it's a PAL thing... I'm using the Cinelerra camera to zoom round very large photographs (and video, above). When I set the project (via Format -> Video) to PAL 4:3 aspect ratio it works fine and I can zoom about to my heart's content. However, when I set it to PAL 16:9 not only does the camera's aspect ratio change (which I would expect) but the photograph's aspect ratio changes, too; i.e. it's all squished. How do I set things up so that my camera is 16:9 but the photograph doesn't get squashed? Obviously when it comes to showing it on my 16:9 widescreen TV it needs to look right. I think I am misunderstanding something fundamental, here, but I don't know what! Not sure if it's my understanding of Cinelerra or aspect ratios in general. Thanks, Marcus. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
