Re: [CinCV Old] [CinCV TNG] Gui frozen

2015-03-26 Thread Nicola Ferralis
Well, it really depends when you last did the pull.
If you type:
Git log
You get a list of commits. Then:
Git checkout commit
Where commit is the hashtag of the commit. You can make cinelerra at any commit stage going backwards from master.
Nicola
On Mar 26, 2015 17:47, edouard chalaron e.chala...@xtra.co.nz wrote:


  
  


Problem happened 24 h ago after a git pull.
Does that help (a bit ...) ?
cheers
E



On Thu, 2015-03-26 at 17:41 -0400, Nicola Ferralis wrote:

For those building from git, can you selectively build on previous commits and test the behavior? That would help pinpointing to the patch that might be responsible...

Thanks,
Nicola



On Mar 26, 2015 5:32 PM, edouard chalaron e.chalaron@xtra.co.nz wrote:



Problem also exists with exported quicktime. It usually works perfectly fine.
As a matter of a fact non updated version of Cinelerra on other machines (same OS) work fine.

Best
E

Duration: 00:04:34.88, start: 0.00, bitrate: 372141 kb/s
    Stream #0:0(eng): Video: rawvideo (yuv2 / 0x32767579), yuyv422, 1392x1040, 370606 kb/s, 16 fps, 16 tbr, 1600 tbn, 1600 tbc (default)
    Metadata:
  creation_time   : 2015-03-25 23:17:17
  handler_name    : Linux Alias Data Handler
  encoder : Quicktime for Linux
    Stream #0:1(eng): Audio: pcm_s16be (twos / 0x736F7774), 48000 Hz, 2 channels, s16, 1536 kb/s (default)
    Metadata:
  creation_time   : 2015-03-25 23:17:17
  handler_name    : Linux Alias Data Handler



On Fri, 2015-03-27 at 09:47 1300, edouard chalaron wrote:

Ok this is a new problem because I work exclusively with sequence of Tiff files.
However I noticed recently some issues with libttiff, some imagemagick scripts are returning garbage
could it be linked ?

Cheers
E

On Thu, 2015-03-26 at 22:09 0200, igor_ubuntu wrote: 

I confirm the existence of this problem.
The situation appears after loading multiple tiff - images on a single track.
After I sets the label, buttons of patchbay cease to respond.
I can not use the motion control in Compositor: slider, play /stop, 1 frame etc .. - non reactive
But all buttons on the vertical left row are active


Igor


2015-03-26 21:39 GMT02:00 edouard chalaron e.chalaron@xtra.co.nz:

Hello Einar




No ideas. Should not happen.



Thats what I thought too. But I cant explain it.

First, I did a git pull; make distclean etc  all seems fine
I made sure that my system is up to date.



Can you give me more information how to reproduce the bug?



Yesterday I did not have much time to experiment fully so here is a more complete description

I loaded a Tiff sequence; added 2 mute tracks for audio
I still can navigate zoom in (select a portion then f etc ..)

Now lets say I want to isolate a sequence : l  l on each boundary of this sequence
Usually by double clicking in between the tags one can select the content between each tags
I cant anymore
Neither can I set a given video track to be displayed or not (arming track on the left) of the gui

However I can manually select the scene, I can still play the video, add plugins, I can still navigate, save and exit properly

If I go to compositor : 

I cant use the little icons (generate Keyframes, in point etc ..) the all line is non reactive
I cant also use the play /stop, 1 frame etc ... non reactive
I cant zoom (auto, 150 % etc ..) non reactive
I cant use the slider
if I press space bar the video plays fine
I can use the color picker and all buttons on the vertical left row (mask  color picker tested)


I can save and exit cinelerra properly, I can render
So it seems that only some commands are non responive

Best

[CinCV Old] [CinCV] End of support for Cinelerra Ubuntu PPA

2014-04-06 Thread Nicola Ferralis
As a casual user (and not a developer) I don't personally have any beef 
with neither factions (yes, because, unfortunately of factions we are 
talking about here). However, as a user, I am intimidated by all this, 
mostly now that is getting personal. I am very uneasy with this.


For anybody that may care, some history. I barely used Cinelerra, mainly 
because of my lack of substantial projects for it. I settled with the CV 
version because - don't laugh - it was the only version I could manage 
to compile successfully and quickly, without investing a day for it. I 
strongly believed that in 2010 to have to compile a program from scratch 
to use it sounded to me prehistoric, anachronistic and a horrible waste 
of time (for the casual user anyway). Besides for both CV and HW 
versions, compilation has been terrible for new Linux users. A complain 
is always easy to throw out, so I set myself to help in what I know how 
to do. So, just as I do for other scientific software, I created the 
Cinelerra Ubuntu PPA where people can seamlessly install it in seconds. 
I hope it served some purpose and helped a few souls. I wanted to 
created a PPA for HW, but time prevented me to dive in. Besides, I had 
no needs.


Now, I have better things in life waiting for me, with much more 
cohesive and exciting communities to be in. I am not going to pretend 
that I am relevant or needed (or worst, that I own anything). I simply 
am not and I don't. So as of today, I will no longer maintain the PPA, I 
won't even look at bug reports and respond to emails. Current binaries 
will remain available, but no ports to new releases of Ubuntu will be 
made. I could transfer to anybody interested the administration rights 
(including Mr. Collins), but I don't want the PPA to be another 
battleground for war. So if someone wants to make a new PPA from 
scratch, please proceed, it's easy enough being open source.


With that, good luck on your endeavor, being cinelerra-cv, cinelerra 
hw-non-cv or anything in between.


Best Wishes to All.

Nicola Ferralis


P.S. I'd only ask - you know who you are - not to spam me with requests 
of linkedin connections. I won't grant any, because I value actual 
personal relationships more than a high count on my connections. You 
won't gain much of anything of having me on your linkedin connections as 
I have no expertize in arts, video editing, Hollywood, etc.

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Re: [CinCV] Where to downloaded Cinelerra CV in 2014 ?

2014-01-13 Thread Nicola Ferralis
Not an ideal solution, but the upstream, unpatched source of
Cinelerra-CV is available in the PPA repository:

https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa/+files/cinelerra-cv_2.2.orig.tar.bz2

Patches are also available in the debian specific tarball:

https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa/+files/cinelerra-cv_2.2-0.15%7Eppa1%7Esaucy1.debian.tar.gz

Again, not ideal, but better than nothing.

Nicola

On 1/13/14, 10:36 AM, xi wrote:
 Hello Cinelerra team!
 
 cinelerra.org domain has expired, so where can I find the latest sources
 of Cinelerra CV now?
 (I am using Cinelerra since ages and I would like to compile the latest
 version for my new computer).
 
 Regards,
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Re: [CinCV] Updated Cinelerra PPA

2013-10-15 Thread Nicola Ferralis
Hi,

Just the patches pushed by Einar. I am trying to keep the ppa as close as 
possible to the official git.

Nicola

David Armstrong bod...@netspace.net.au wrote:

Just got a PPA update on Ubuntu. Well Done!

Is anyone able to advise what is in the updated version?

cheers
 David



On 12/10/13 07:08, Einar Rünkaru wrote:
 Hi.

 Pushed the following patches
 # Fix in File::read_frame calling of cmodel_transfer
 http://www.mail-archive.com/cinelerra@skolelinux.no/msg14059.html
 # Increment the year in copyright message
 http://www.mail-archive.com/cinelerra@skolelinux.no/msg14058.html
 # Fixed compilation on Arch Linux
 http://www.mail-archive.com/cinelerra@skolelinux.no/msg14057.html
#

 # Einar



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Re: [CinCV] Updated Cinelerra PPA

2013-10-15 Thread Nicola Ferralis
No problem!

Just Einars. I could push the others that have been floating around, but
I'd like to wait until they are merged into the main tree. Is there any
plan for that?

Thanks,
Nicola

On 10/15/13 10:35 AM, Haldun ALTAN wrote:
 Tnahk you Nicolas
 I was going to ask the question
 Are all the patches included or just Einar's
 Thanks,
 Haldun.
 
 Le 15/10/2013 15:29, Nicola Ferralis a écrit :
 Hi,

 Just the patches pushed by Einar. I am trying to keep the ppa as close
 as possible to the official git.

 Nicola

 David Armstrong bod...@netspace.net.au wrote:

 Just got a PPA update on Ubuntu. Well Done!

 Is anyone able to advise what is in the updated version?

 cheers
 David



 On 12/10/13 07:08, Einar Rünkaru wrote:
 Hi.

 Pushed the following patches
 # Fix in File::read_frame calling of cmodel_transfer
 http://www.mail-archive.com/cinelerra@skolelinux.no/msg14059.html
 # Increment the year in copyright message
 http://www.mail-archive.com/cinelerra@skolelinux.no/msg14058.html
 # Fixed compilation on Arch Linux
 http://www.mail-archive.com/cinelerra@skolelinux.no/msg14057.html
#

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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra Ubuntu 13.04

2013-05-05 Thread Nicola Ferralis
Earlier builds for 13.04 (raring) in the ppa had dependencies issues that are 
fixed in the current builds.  Cinelerra now installs fine on Raring.

I recommend uninstalling Cinelerra, reloading the repos and try installing 
again.



David Armstrong bod...@netspace.net.au wrote:

Anyone had success installing or compiling under Ubuntu 13.04?

I've tried both but with two fails.

For compile, I errored with :
//usr/bin/ld: /usr/local/lib/libx264.a(common.o): relocation R_X86_64_32
against `.rodata.str1.1' can not be used when making a shared object;
recompile with -fPIC//
///usr/local/lib/libx264.a: could not read symbols: Bad value//
//collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status/

Also tried the PPA install. After install, the first error I got trying
to run was:
/cinelerra: error while loading shared libraries: libjpeg.so.62: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory/

Overcame that by installing libjpeg62, but then got:
/cinelerra: error while loading shared libraries:
libmjpegutils-1.9.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
directory/

Ubuntu 13.04 has libmjpegutils2.0 in synaptic, which is installed, but
not v1.9.

So, any suggestions?

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RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-07 Thread Nicola Ferralis
Dear All,

I finally migrated cinelerra's builds to use the new name cinelerra-cv. The 
name change will affect all the related libraries. The new builds are available 
in the main PPA:

https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa

If you have been using such PPA, I recommend installing the cinelerra-cv 
package. This will remove the old series (cinelerra) and install the new one. 
It goes without saying that the older cinelerra builds are no longer available 
nor maintained.

Raffaella, would you please add a line in the webpage stating how to install 
cinelerra, once the the PPA has been enabled?

sudo apt-get install cinelerra-cv

Please let me know if you find any issue.

Thanks.
Nicola

 

From: blchu...@iinet.net.au
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 22:07:53 +1100


  

  
  
On 06/11/12 20:32, Raffaella Traniello
  wrote:


Ciao!
  

  

  On 11/06/2012 05:20 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
  

  I looked at this-


http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php


which shows that Cinelerra CV has not been compiled for Ubuntu
for quite


some time


  
  

  ... actually it shows only that I forgot to update that page!!
  

  

  Sorry about that.
  

  I'll fix it as soon as I can.
  

  

  Ciao!
  

  Raffaella
  




Ah! Well, there you are: the answer is readily at hand  :-) .



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RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-05 Thread Nicola Ferralis
BC

Once again, the current cinelerra PPA is compiled from source (CV) for Ubuntu, 
in fact it is for pretty much every recent release. The current binaries are 
based on the codebase 2.2 with the recent patches. I am not sure why you keep 
saying that CV is not compiled from source for CV.

I have no interest nor motivation to make another ppa for the HW, maybe someone 
else can take that task. When time will allow me, I will try to modify the 
package names to reflect that what is in the PPA really is cinelerra-cv.

NF

 

From: wmstr...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 07:21:42 -0800



From: Basil Chupin blchu...@iinet.net.au
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no 
 Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 5:02:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
   

  

  
  
On 05/11/12 20:26, Sean M. Pappalardo
  wrote:


On
  11/3/2012 9:24 PM, Nicola Ferralis wrote:
  

  https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa




I created the cinelerra-cv  PPA repository for cases where
multiple


version of cinelerra repositories were to be installed. However,
that


created much trouble and the cinelerra-cv is now deprecated, and
out of


date.


  
  

  Does this apply to everyone? Like is the CV version itself no
  longer maintained and we should all use Heroine's version 4.x? If
  that's not the case, for those of us running straight Debian, is
  deb-multimedia still the recommended place to get the packages?
  

  

  Thanks for the clarification.
  




The CV is being developed day-by-day and is always ahead, in one
way, of the heroinewarrier (v4.4) because hw only takes from CV what
it considers to be relevant to it aims.



What your problem is is that the CV is not being compiled from
source file for Ubuntu. On the other hand, I am using openSUSE and I
have the very latest Cinelerra CV - released only a day or so ago -
readily available (and installed).



BC

I am using Ubuntu 12.10 and would not want to change distributions simply to be 
able to use Cinelerra-CV. I am getting the impression that the CV version is 
not being kept up to date for Ubuntu, and perhaps not for many other 
distributions such as Debian.  Is that correct? If so, I guess I will have to 
stick with the HW Version.
Murray
  

RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-05 Thread Nicola Ferralis
Furthermore, as suggested, if one prefers, compiling cinelerra (either version, 
really) it's simple enough.

 

From: feran...@hotmail.com
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 08:03:13 -0800




BC

Once again, the current cinelerra PPA is compiled from source (CV) for Ubuntu, 
in fact it is for pretty much every recent release. The current binaries are 
based on the codebase 2.2 with the recent patches. I am not sure why you keep 
saying that CV is not compiled from source for CV.

I have no interest nor motivation to make another ppa for the HW, maybe someone 
else can take that task. When time will allow me, I will try to modify the 
package names to reflect that what is in the PPA really is cinelerra-cv.

NF

 


From: wmstr...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 07:21:42 -0800



From: Basil Chupin blchu...@iinet.net.au
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no 
 Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 5:02:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
   

  

  
  
On 05/11/12 20:26, Sean M. Pappalardo
  wrote:


On
  11/3/2012 9:24 PM, Nicola Ferralis wrote:
  

  https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa




I created the cinelerra-cv  PPA repository for cases where
multiple


version of cinelerra repositories were to be installed. However,
that


created much trouble and the cinelerra-cv is now deprecated, and
out of


date.


  
  

  Does this apply to everyone? Like is the CV version itself no
  longer maintained and we should all use Heroine's version 4.x? If
  that's not the case, for those of us running straight Debian, is
  deb-multimedia still the recommended place to get the packages?
  

  

  Thanks for the clarification.
  




The CV is being developed day-by-day and is always ahead, in one
way, of the heroinewarrier (v4.4) because hw only takes from CV what
it considers to be relevant to it aims.



What your problem is is that the CV is not being compiled from
source file for Ubuntu. On the other hand, I am using openSUSE and I
have the very latest Cinelerra CV - released only a day or so ago -
readily available (and installed).



BC

I am using Ubuntu 12.10 and would not want to change distributions simply to be 
able to use Cinelerra-CV. I am getting the impression that the CV version is 
not being kept up to date for Ubuntu, and perhaps not for many other 
distributions such as Debian.  Is that correct? If so, I guess I will have to 
stick with the HW Version.
Murray

  

RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-05 Thread Nicola Ferralis
Due to the confusion over the two repositories, I am updating the cinelerra-cv 
ppa with the latest builds (currently building, available in a few hours):

A: https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/cinelerra-cv

The only difference (to the user) between these builds and those in the main PPA

B: https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa


is the different name for cinelerra (now cinelerra-cv). I would appreciate if 
anybody interested could test these new builds. A few precautions:

1. Uninstall the current cinelerra you might have from the PPA. 
2. Disable the main PPA (B, above).
3. Enable the cinelerra-ppa PPA (A, above)
4. Install cinelerra-cv. 

If no issues are found, I will port those builds to the official PPA, so that 
the only available build will be, cinelerra-cv.

Thanks,
Nicola

 

From: feran...@hotmail.com
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 08:04:36 -0800




Furthermore, as suggested, if one prefers, compiling cinelerra (either version, 
really) it's simple enough.

 


From: feran...@hotmail.com
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 08:03:13 -0800




BC

Once again, the current cinelerra PPA is compiled from source (CV) for Ubuntu, 
in fact it is for pretty much every recent release. The current binaries are 
based on the codebase 2.2 with the recent patches. I am not sure why you keep 
saying that CV is not compiled from source for CV.

I have no interest nor motivation to make another ppa for the HW, maybe someone 
else can take that task. When time will allow me, I will try to modify the 
package names to reflect that what is in the PPA really is cinelerra-cv.

NF

 


From: wmstr...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 07:21:42 -0800



From: Basil Chupin blchu...@iinet.net.au
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no 
 Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 5:02:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
   

  

  
  
On 05/11/12 20:26, Sean M. Pappalardo
  wrote:


On
  11/3/2012 9:24 PM, Nicola Ferralis wrote:
  

  https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa




I created the cinelerra-cv  PPA repository for cases where
multiple


version of cinelerra repositories were to be installed. However,
that


created much trouble and the cinelerra-cv is now deprecated, and
out of


date.


  
  

  Does this apply to everyone? Like is the CV version itself no
  longer maintained and we should all use Heroine's version 4.x? If
  that's not the case, for those of us running straight Debian, is
  deb-multimedia still the recommended place to get the packages?
  

  

  Thanks for the clarification.
  




The CV is being developed day-by-day and is always ahead, in one
way, of the heroinewarrier (v4.4) because hw only takes from CV what
it considers to be relevant to it aims.



What your problem is is that the CV is not being compiled from
source file for Ubuntu. On the other hand, I am using openSUSE and I
have the very latest Cinelerra CV - released only a day or so ago -
readily available (and installed).



BC

I am using Ubuntu 12.10 and would not want to change distributions simply to be 
able to use Cinelerra-CV. I am getting the impression that the CV version is 
not being kept up to date for Ubuntu, and perhaps not for many other 
distributions such as Debian.  Is that correct? If so, I guess I will have to 
stick with the HW Version.
Murray

  

RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-05 Thread Nicola Ferralis
Basil,

If you refer to packages in in the official Ubuntu repositories, well you won't 
find any. That is why I made the PPA in first place. 
Regarding cinelerra.org, I don't really know what is in the official website 
other than links to various sources. All I know is that the PPA offers builds 
with the current version of the source for git (with patches of 09/24/2012). In 
fact these binaries were compiled on the 10/10/2012. 

Now, you may have a source that is newer than the official git in 
cinelerra.org. All I know is that the last update on it was on 09/24. The next 
time an the git tree is update, you will find a new build for Ubuntu in the 
PPA. This obviously doesn't prevent people from compiling their own packages.

Regards,
Nicola


 

From: blchu...@iinet.net.au
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:20:16 +1100


  

  
  
On 06/11/12 03:03, Nicola Ferralis
  wrote:



  
  BC



Once again, the current cinelerra PPA is compiled from source
(CV) for Ubuntu, in fact it is for pretty much every recent
release. The current binaries are based on the codebase 2.2 with
the recent patches. I am not sure why you keep saying that CV is
not compiled from source for CV.



I have no interest nor motivation to make another ppa for the
HW, maybe someone else can take that task. When time will allow
me, I will try to modify the package names to reflect that what
is in the PPA really is cinelerra-cv.



NF

  



Ummm, what would you compile it from other than the source?  :-) 



I looked at this-



http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php



which shows that Cinelerra CV has not been compiled for Ubuntu for
quite some time - but I got my copy updated only a few hours ago
with the latest update release made available only some 4 hours ago
(at the time of writing this).



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RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-03 Thread Nicola Ferralis
The official, maintained and up-to-date PPA for cinelerra is, well, cinelerra 
(not cinelerra-cv):

https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa

I created the cinelerra-cv  PPA repository for cases where multiple version of 
cinelerra repositories were to be installed. However, that created much trouble 
and the cinelerra-cv is now deprecated, and out of date.

From a binary perspective, both PPA come from the same source, i.e. the 
community version of cinelerra. So I strongly recommend to use the one 
provided in the link above.

Current packages in the cinelerra PPA ara available for ubuntu releases from 
Hardy (8.04) to Quantal (12.10).

As I maintain the PPA, please let me know if you have any question/comment/bug 
to report.

Nicola

 

From: bod...@netspace.net.au
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 11:59:25 +1100


  

  
  
The PPA install binary has been prepared for 12.04 (correct me if I
am wrong). 

Haven't heard of anyone compiling under 12.10 yet, and hence
overcoming any issues likely to occur.



Will let the more technical boffins on this distribution list expand
further...



BTW, I'm not planning to upgrade my 12.04 at the moment. 







On 04/11/12 11:26, Murray Strome wrote:



  

  
After reading the Handy Tutorial, Install
Cinelerra in Ubuntu 12.04  12.10
  http://handytutorial.com/install-cinelerra-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10/
  


  I decided that it would
  be best to install the CV version on my newly
  installed Ubuntu 12.10.
  However, when I tried to
  do so following the instructions in the tutorial, I
  get the following error message:
  
  Some packages could not be installed. This may
mean that you have
  requested an impossible situation or if you are
using the unstable
  distribution that some required packages have not
yet been created
  or been moved out of Incoming.
  The following information may help resolve the
situation:
  

  
  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
   cinelerra-cv : Depends: libguicast1 (=
1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) but
1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to be installed
  Depends: libmpeg3cine (=
1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) but
1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to be installed
  Depends: libquicktimecine (=
1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) but
1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to be installed
  E: Unable to correct problems, you have held
broken packages.
  --
  I then decided to just install the other version
(sudo apt-get install cinelerra) after adding that
repository. It seemed to install OK.
  

  
  Which version is recommended?  Of course, if I
want to use it, my only option is the non-CV
version.  Is this problem a bug which needs to be
fixed, or is there something different that I should
be doing?
  

  
  Thanks for any suggestions/advice.
  

  
  

  


  

  


  

RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-03 Thread Nicola Ferralis
PPA binaries are available for 12.04. I will start preparing packages for 13.04 
fairly soon.

 

From: bod...@netspace.net.au
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 11:59:25 +1100


  

  
  
The PPA install binary has been prepared for 12.04 (correct me if I
am wrong). 

Haven't heard of anyone compiling under 12.10 yet, and hence
overcoming any issues likely to occur.



Will let the more technical boffins on this distribution list expand
further...



BTW, I'm not planning to upgrade my 12.04 at the moment. 







On 04/11/12 11:26, Murray Strome wrote:



  

  
After reading the Handy Tutorial, Install
Cinelerra in Ubuntu 12.04  12.10
  http://handytutorial.com/install-cinelerra-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10/
  


  I decided that it would
  be best to install the CV version on my newly
  installed Ubuntu 12.10.
  However, when I tried to
  do so following the instructions in the tutorial, I
  get the following error message:
  
  Some packages could not be installed. This may
mean that you have
  requested an impossible situation or if you are
using the unstable
  distribution that some required packages have not
yet been created
  or been moved out of Incoming.
  The following information may help resolve the
situation:
  

  
  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
   cinelerra-cv : Depends: libguicast1 (=
1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) but
1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to be installed
  Depends: libmpeg3cine (=
1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) but
1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to be installed
  Depends: libquicktimecine (=
1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) but
1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to be installed
  E: Unable to correct problems, you have held
broken packages.
  --
  I then decided to just install the other version
(sudo apt-get install cinelerra) after adding that
repository. It seemed to install OK.
  

  
  Which version is recommended?  Of course, if I
want to use it, my only option is the non-CV
version.  Is this problem a bug which needs to be
fixed, or is there something different that I should
be doing?
  

  
  Thanks for any suggestions/advice.
  

  
  

  


  

  


  

RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV

2012-11-03 Thread Nicola Ferralis
I just uploaded the new source for Raring (13.04). Binaries will be available 
for it in the next few hours in the Cinelerra ppa.

 

From: feran...@hotmail.com
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:30:00 -0700




PPA binaries are available for 12.04. I will start preparing packages for 13.04 
fairly soon.

 


From: bod...@netspace.net.au
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 11:59:25 +1100


  

  
  
The PPA install binary has been prepared for 12.04 (correct me if I
am wrong). 

Haven't heard of anyone compiling under 12.10 yet, and hence
overcoming any issues likely to occur.



Will let the more technical boffins on this distribution list expand
further...



BTW, I'm not planning to upgrade my 12.04 at the moment. 







On 04/11/12 11:26, Murray Strome wrote:



  

  
After reading the Handy Tutorial, Install
Cinelerra in Ubuntu 12.04  12.10
  http://handytutorial.com/install-cinelerra-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10/
  


  I decided that it would
  be best to install the CV version on my newly
  installed Ubuntu 12.10.
  However, when I tried to
  do so following the instructions in the tutorial, I
  get the following error message:
  
  Some packages could not be installed. This may
mean that you have
  requested an impossible situation or if you are
using the unstable
  distribution that some required packages have not
yet been created
  or been moved out of Incoming.
  The following information may help resolve the
situation:
  

  
  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
   cinelerra-cv : Depends: libguicast1 (=
1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) but
1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to be installed
  Depends: libmpeg3cine (=
1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) but
1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to be installed
  Depends: libquicktimecine (=
1:2.2-0.6~ppa1~quantal1) but
1:2.2-0.12~ppa1~quantal1 is to be installed
  E: Unable to correct problems, you have held
broken packages.
  --
  I then decided to just install the other version
(sudo apt-get install cinelerra) after adding that
repository. It seemed to install OK.
  

  
  Which version is recommended?  Of course, if I
want to use it, my only option is the non-CV
version.  Is this problem a bug which needs to be
fixed, or is there something different that I should
be doing?
  

  
  Thanks for any suggestions/advice.
  

  
  

  


  

  



  

RE: [CinCV] Sound delay problems

2012-10-15 Thread Nicola Ferralis
Yes, ppa is currently sinc'd with git with latest patches form early this month.

 

From: cin467-i...@yahoo.de
Subject: Re: [CinCV] Sound delay problems
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:12:42 +0100

Perhaps the Ubuntu Studio 12.04 version makes the difference. I will try it to 
test if there are any differences. 
Does anyone know if the git and the ppa Cinelerra are the same at the moment? 

David Armstrong bod...@netspace.net.au wrote:


  


  
  
I am running 64 bit Ubuntu Studio 12.04

Have installed the pre-compiled ppa version.





On 15/10/12 18:08, cin467-i...@yahoo.de
  wrote:



  

Interessting. I got the sound delay with SD material
  (mjpeg) too. Perhaps Ubuntu 12.04 runs not pretty well on my
  hardware actually. 
I will investigate more this evening. 
 
Regards,
Erik


   

  
  Von: David
Armstrong bod...@netspace.net.au

An:
cinelerra@skolelinux.no 

Gesendet:
23:30 Sonntag, 14.Oktober 2012

Betreff:
Re: [CinCV] Sound delay problems

   




   No sound delay when editing in SD (.dv or .move) or
HD (.mov).

When trying to edit directly with .mts HD, I get a
delay. Can offset audio by about 0.48, and it's close.



If I have talking heads where sync is critical, I
reformat into dnxhd codec in quicktime (.mov).
Everything works better with a cinelerra friendly codec.

Only use .mts directly for quick and dirty edits.



cheers

David



On 15/10/12
  05:34, cin467-i...@yahoo.de
  wrote:



  Hello,



I am using the latest Cinelerra-cv (64 bit) from the
git repo on Ubuntu 12.04. I had a lot of problems
with audio delay while playing the videos in
Cinelerra. I tried the recommandation from the
Grandma manual to switch to esound in the
preferences. The result is no sound at all. 



Playing wiht the delay option (from Grandma too)
gave no results too.



I found a possible solution in setting the audio
buffers in the preferences from 16K to 2k. 



I had this problem only on Ubuntu. On Debian 6.04
there were no problems with the default setting in
Cinelerra.



My questions: Should the esound trick works with
Ubuntu 12.04 too (any additional changes in Ubuntu
needed?) 



Why brings lowering the audio buffer good results
and will this perhaps produce new problems?



Best regards,

Erik




  



  






  

  



  



  

[CinCV] Experimental builds for Ubuntu (with latest patches) available

2012-10-08 Thread Nicola Ferralis
Hi,

I just pushed a new set of testing builds for various releases of Ubuntu into 
the cinelerra-experimental ppa. They include all the patches that were recently 
pushed to trunk. I also attach the collection of individual patches here.

If you are interested, please test these new builds. You may find them here:

https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/cinelerra-exp 

If no major issues are found, I will push these to the stable PPA.

Thanks,
Nicola

  

RE: [CinCV] Fade to silence bug solved?

2012-07-06 Thread Nicola Ferralis


Grazie, Raffaella.

New builds with the patch will be available in the next few days.

Cheers,
Nicola
 

 From: raffaella.tranie...@g-raffa.eu
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Fade to silence bug solved?
 Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 10:46:23 +0200
 
 Ciao Nicola!
 
 On 07/05/2012 06:45 PM, Nicola Ferralis wrote:
  Was the patch committed to the main cinelerra-cv git repo? I don't see
  it
 
 Here it is:
 
  http://git.cinelerra.org/gitweb?p=CinelerraCV.git;a=commit;h=fb25a311b968f8390704fb9b726b4f775662a345
 
 Ciao!
 Raffaella
 
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RE: [CinCV] Fade to silence bug solved?

2012-07-06 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Oh, Ok! I guess it was part of the 2.2 release.

Thanks,
Nicola

 

 From: raffaella.tranie...@g-raffa.eu
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Fade to silence bug solved?
 Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 17:06:00 +0200
 
 On 07/06/2012 04:48 PM, Nicola Ferralis wrote:
  New builds with the patch will be available in the next few days.
 
 No need. The current builds already have it.
 
 Ciao!
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RE: [CinCV] Fade to silence bug solved?

2012-07-05 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Hi,

Was the patch committed to the main cinelerra-cv git repo? I don't see it here:

http://git.cinelerra.org/gitweb?p=CinelerraCV.git

Is it possible to have the patch so that I can applied it to the cinelerra ppa 
for Ubuntu?

Thanks,
Nicola

 

 From: raffaella.tranie...@g-raffa.eu
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Fade to silence bug solved?
 Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 11:11:01 +0200
 
 On 07/05/2012 09:30 AM, Einar Rünkaru wrote:
  http://bugs.cinelerra.org/ticket/326
  Shold be fixed (commit:fb25a311)
 
 I closed the bug report.
 Ciao!
 
 Raffaella
 
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RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra on Ubuntu Studio 12.04

2012-05-16 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Haldun,

The diff has to be outside the cinelerra-cv folder. In your case it should be 
in ~/

Nicola

 

From: al...@wanadoo.fr
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra on Ubuntu Studio 12.04
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 19:01:05 +0200


  

  
  


Thank you Nicola,

I put diff file on cinelerra-cv folder and run the command to patch

I get some erreurs still



haldun@haldunHP:~/cinelerra-cv$ patch -p0 -i
add-libraries-to-linker.diff

can't find file to patch at input line 4

Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?

The text leading up to this was:

--

|diff -Nru cinelerra-2.2.orig/cinelerra/Makefile.am
cinelerra-2.2/cinelerra/Makefile.am

|--- cinelerra-2.2.orig/cinelerra/Makefile.am2011-11-13
23:53:34.0 -0500

|+++ cinelerra-2.2/cinelerra/Makefile.am2011-11-14
14:06:09.0 -0500

--

File to patch: (here the command line stops and I added the
following lines to see what happens :) add-libraries-to-linker.diff

patching file add-libraries-to-linker.diff

Hunk #1 FAILED at 677.

1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file
add-libraries-to-linker.diff.rej



there finishes the line



What am I supposed to do please. ?



On 16/05/2012 18:03, Nicola Ferralis wrote:

  
  
The error in compilation is a known issue in cinelerra main
source code. You need to apply the attached patch to the source.
Not sure why it hasn't been included yet on the main code.



To apply the patch, place the diff file in the same folder where
the cinelerra-2.2  source folder is, and run:



patch -p0 -i add-libraries-to-linker.diff



Then proceed with the compilation. 



Regarding the faad issue, you need the -dev package: it's the
one that contains the libraries used during compilation. The
correct dependency for that is libfaad-dev



I repost below the correct list...



Cheers,

Nicola



***



debhelper

automake

fakeroot

libasound2-dev

libdv4-dev

libavcodec-dev 

libmp3lame-dev

libvorbis-dev

libogg-dev 

libtool 

liba52-0.7.4-dev

libtheora-dev

libpng12-dev

libjpeg-dev

libtiff4-dev

libesd0-dev 

libaudiofile-dev

libraw1394-dev

libavc1394-dev

libfreetype6-dev

libfontconfig1-dev

nasm

uuid-dev, 

docbook-to-man

libfaad-dev 

libmjpegtools-dev

libopenexr-dev

libxxf86vm-dev

libfftw3-dev

libsndfile1-dev

libiec61883-dev

libx264-dev,

libfaac-dev

libx11-dev

libxext-dev

libxft-dev

libxv-dev

libxxf86vm-dev

libglu1-mesa-dev

libv4l-dev

 






  From: al...@wanadoo.fr

  To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no

  Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra on Ubuntu Studio 12.04

  Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 17:39:44 +0200

  

  When checking dependencies for installation  after the
  commande ./configure  faad librairies and headers was
  missing after i installed the package libfaad-dev they were
  found.

  

  Everything seems to be in order it tells me to tape make but
  fails with errors :

  some parts are in french I don't know if it bothers.

  

  haldun@haldunHP:~/cinelerra-cv$ make

  (CDPATH=${ZSH_VERSION+.}:  cd . 
  /bin/bash /home/haldun/cinelerra-cv/missing --run autoheader)

  rm -f stamp-h1

  touch config.h.in

  cd .  /bin/bash ./config.status config.h

  config.status: creating config.h

  config.status: config.h is unchanged

  make  all-recursive

  make[1]: entrant dans le répertoire «
  /home/haldun/cinelerra-cv »

  Making all in libmpeg3

  make[2]: entrant dans le répertoire «
  /home/haldun/cinelerra-cv/libmpeg3 »

  Making all in audio

  make[3]: entrant dans le répertoire «
  /home/haldun/cinelerra-cv/libmpeg3/audio »

  make[3]: Rien à faire pour « all ».

  make[3]: quittant le répertoire «
  /home/haldun/cinelerra-cv/libmpeg3/audio »

  Making all in video

  make[3]: entrant dans le répertoire «
  /home/haldun/cinelerra-cv/libmpeg3/video »

  make[3]: Rien à faire pour « all ».

  make[3]: quittant le répertoire «
  /home/haldun/cinelerra-cv/libmpeg3/video »

  make[3]: entrant dans le

RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra on Ubuntu Studio 12.04

2012-05-15 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Hi Haldun,

The full set of required dependencies for building Cinelerra for Ubuntu 12.04 
is given bellow.

I hope it helps.

Cheers,
Nicola

**

debhelper
automake
fakeroot
libasound2-dev
libdv4-dev
libavcodec-dev 
libmp3lame-dev
libvorbis-dev
libogg-dev 
libtool 
liba52-0.7.4-dev
libtheora-dev
libpng12-dev
libjpeg-dev
libtiff4-dev
libesd0-dev 
libaudiofile-dev
libraw1394-dev
libavc1394-dev
libfreetype6-dev
libfontconfig1-dev
nasm
uuid-dev, 
docbook-to-man
libfaad2-dev 
libmjpegtools-dev
libopenexr-dev
libxxf86vm-dev
libfftw3-dev
libsndfile1-dev
libiec61883-dev
libx264-dev,
libfaac-dev
libx11-dev
libxext-dev
libxft-dev
libxv-dev
libxxf86vm-dev
libglu1-mesa-dev
libv4l-dev
 

From: al...@wanadoo.fr
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra on Ubuntu Studio 12.04
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 09:35:21 +0200


  

  
  
Hello Nicola



Can we with this information for dependencies compile cinelerra for
ubuntu studio 1204 ?



I guess grandma has some more knittings to do :)))



Thanks in advance.



Haldun.



On 17/04/2012 19:18, Nicola Ferralis wrote:

  
  
Raffaella, make sure you correct your broken dependencies. 



sudo apt-get -f install



As for precise, libjpeg-dev is needed: previous versions use
libjpeg62-dev which is no longer in precise.



Hope it helps.



Nicola



P.S. For successful compilation on any ubuntu (including
precise) these are the dependencies (from the control file in
ppa)



debhelper (= 7.0.16~), automake, fakeroot,

 libasound2-dev (= 1.0.4), libdv4-dev (= 1.0.0), 

 libavcodeccvs51-dev | libavcodec-dev, 

 libmp3lame-dev | liblame-dev (= 3.92), libvorbis-dev (=
1.0.0),

 libogg-dev (= 1.1.2), libtool (= 1.5), liba52-0.7.4-dev
(= 0.7.4), 

 libtheora-dev (=0.0.0.alpha4) | libtheora-mmx-dev
(=0.0.0.alpha4),

 libpng12-dev (= 1.2.5), libjpeg-dev | libjpeg62-dev,
libtiff4-dev (= 3.6.0),

 libesd0-dev (= 0.2.28), libaudiofile-dev (= 0.2.3), 

 libraw1394-dev (= 1.2.0), libavc1394-dev (= 0.4.1),

 libfreetype6-dev (= 2.2.1), libfontconfig-dev |
libfontconfig1-dev, nasm, uuid-dev, 

 docbook-to-man, libfaad2-dev | libfaad-dev, libmjpegtools-dev
(= 1.6.2), 

 libopenexr-dev (= 1.1.1), libxxf86vm-dev (=6.8.2),
libfftw3-dev | fftw3-dev,

 libsndfile1-dev, libiec61883-dev (= 1.0.0), libx264-dev,

 libfaac-dev (= 1.24), libx11-dev, libxext-dev, libxft-dev,

 libxv-dev, libxxf86vm-dev, libfftw3-dev, libglu1-mesa-dev,
libv4l-dev | v4l-utils



 





 From: raffaella.tranie...@g-raffa.eu

   To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no

   Subject: [CinCV] Cinelerra on Ubuntu Studio 12.04

   Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:01:17 +0200

   

   Ciao!

   

   I'm trying to compile Cin on Ubuntu Studio 12.04, a clean
  install.

   I started from the Grandma instructions for Oneiric
  11.10.

   

   raffa@raffa-laptop:~/cinelerra-cv$ sudo apt-get install
  xorg-dev 

   libasound2-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libtheora-dev
  libopenexr-dev 

   libdv4-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg62-dev libx264-dev
  uuid-dev mjpegtools 

   libmjpegtools-dev libfftw3-dev liba52-0.7.4-dev
  libmp3lame0 

   libmp3lame-dev libsndfile1-dev libfaac-dev libfaad-dev
  libesd0-dev 

   libavc1394-dev libraw1394-dev libiec61883-dev
  libtiff4-dev 

   libxxf86vm-dev libglu1-mesa-dev

   

   but I got:

   

   libmp3lame0 is already the newest version.

   Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that
  you have

   requested an impossible situation or if you are using the
  unstable

   distribution that some required packages have not yet
  been created

   or been moved out of Incoming.

   The following information may help to resolve the
  situation:

   

   The following packages have unmet dependencies:

   libtiff4-dev : Depends: libjpeg-dev

   E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken
  packages.

   

   If I install libjpeg-dev I still get the same error.

   

   Have someone of you already solved the dependency issues
  in Ubuntu 

   Studio 12.04?

   

   Ciao!

   Raffaella

   

   

   

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RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra on Ubuntu Studio 12.04

2012-04-17 Thread Nicola Ferralis

You're welcome. For future reference, you may want to check the source of the 
debian files in the ppa... 

Nicola

 

 From: raffaella.tranie...@g-raffa.eu
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra on Ubuntu Studio 12.04
 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 02:20:37 +0200
 
 Ciao!
 
  As for precise, libjpeg-dev is needed: previous versions use
  libjpeg62-dev which is no longer in precise.
 
 Thank you very much!
 You saved my workshop.
 
 I'll tell Grandma. :-)
 
 Ciao!
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RE: [CinCV] can't install cinelerra on ubuntu from repositories

2012-03-23 Thread Nicola Ferralis


Hi,

You have a conflicting library installed, mpeg3-utils. I would recommend you 
uninstall it (assuming it is not used for other packages) and try to install 
cinelerra again.
 

 From: matteosistise...@gmail.com
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: [CinCV] can't install cinelerra on ubuntu from repositories
 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 21:52:33 +0100
 
 Hi,
 
 I added the repository (by following the instructions from the site) and 
 tried to install cinelerra from synaptic, but I get the following errors.
 
 Is there a way I can fix it and get it to install?
 thanks
 m.
 
 
 (Reading database ... 375773 files and directories currently installed.)
 Preparing to replace libguicast1 1:2.2-0.3~ppa1~maverick1 (using 
 .../libguicast1_1%3a2.2-0.3~ppa1~oneiric1_i386.deb) ...
 Unpacking replacement libguicast1 ...
 Unpacking libmpeg3cine (from 
 .../libmpeg3cine_1%3a2.2-0.3~ppa1~oneiric1_i386.deb) ...
 dpkg: error processing 
 /var/cache/apt/archives/libmpeg3cine_1%3a2.2-0.3~ppa1~oneiric1_i386.deb 
 (--unpack):
   trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/mpeg3cat', which is also in package 
 mpeg3-utils 1.5.4-5ubuntu1
 No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already
Selecting 
 previously deselected package libquicktimecine.
 Unpacking libquicktimecine (from 
 .../libquicktimecine_1%3a2.2-0.3~ppa1~oneiric1_i386.deb) ...
 Selecting previously deselected package cinelerra.
 Unpacking cinelerra (from 
 .../cinelerra_1%3a2.2-0.3~ppa1~oneiric1_i386.deb) ...
 Processing triggers for man-db ...
 Processing triggers for menu ...
 Processing triggers for bamfdaemon ...
 Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf.index...
 Processing triggers for gnome-menus ...
 Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
 Errors were encountered while processing:
   /var/cache/apt/archives/libmpeg3cine_1%3a2.2-0.3~ppa1~oneiric1_i386.deb
 W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ 
 oneiric/partner i386 Packages 
 (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_oneiric_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
 A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of cinelerra:
   cinelerra depends on libmpeg3cine (= 1:2.2-0.3~ppa1~oneiric1); however:
Package libmpeg3cine is not installed.
 dpkg: error processing cinelerra (--configure):
   dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
 Setting up libguicast1 (1:2.2-0.3~ppa1~oneiric1) ...
 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libquicktimecine:
   libquicktimecine depends on libmpeg3cine; however:
Package libmpeg3cine is not installed.
 dpkg: error processing libquicktimecine (--configure):
   dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
 Processing triggers for libc-bin ...
 ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
 Errors were encountered while processing:
   cinelerra
   libquicktimecine
 
 
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RE: [CinCV] Compiling errors with CinCV 2.2

2011-12-05 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Hi,

Make sure you have the right libraries linked. See patch.

Nicola

 

 From: i...@bandshed.net
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: [CinCV] Compiling errors with CinCV 2.2
 Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:07:31 -0800
 
 Hi,
 
 I am trying to compile and package Cinelerra-CV 2.2 and encountering the
 following error during compilation. This is on AV Linux (based on Debian
 Squeeze i386). I have tried gcc 4.4 and 4.6 and also applied the latest
 Debian CinCV 2.1.5 patches from debian-multimedia.org all with the same
 result.
 
 Error is as follows:
 
 /usr/bin/ld: filempeg.o: undefined reference to symbol
 'lame_encode_buffer_float'
 /usr/bin/ld: note: 'lame_encode_buffer_float' is defined in DSO
 /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0 so try adding it to the linker command line
 /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 make[3]: *** [cinelerra] Error 1
 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/tester/Build/cinelerra-cv/cinelerra'
 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/tester/Build/cinelerra-cv/cinelerra'
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tester/Build/cinelerra-cv'
 make: *** [all] Error 2
 tester@av502desk:~/Build/cinelerra-cv$
 
 Any guidance appreciated, Glen MacArthur - AV Linux maintainer
 
 
 
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RE: [CinCV] [PATCH] Fix compilation on Ubuntu Oneiric (11.10)

2011-11-21 Thread Nicola Ferralis

I included the patch a while back in the debian patch folder for the ppa builds:

https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa/+files/cinelerra_2.2-0.2%7Eppa1%7Eoneiric1.debian.tar.gz

It works fine.

Thanks,
Nicola

 

 From: v...@poliforma.org
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no; eina...@smail.ee
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] [PATCH] Fix compilation on Ubuntu Oneiric (11.10)
 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:32:52 +0100
 
 sorry...late: works perfect, anyway
 
 
 :D
 
 vale
 
 
  Hi.
 
  Can anyone test attached patch on real Ubuntu Oneiric?
 
  Must compile without LDFLAGS=... cofigure parameter.
 
  Einar
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [CinCV] [PATCH] Fixed interpolation in Blur video plugin

2011-11-21 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Thanks, Einar. I pushed the patch in the ppa. Builds for Ubuntu will be 
available in the next few hours. 

Please let me know if you run into any issue.

Thanks again,Nicola


 From: eina...@smail.ee
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: [CinCV] [PATCH] Fixed interpolation in Blur video plugin
 Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:41:45 +0200
 
 Hi
 
 Patch is attached.
 
 Linear interoplation is not applicable to on/off switch
 Rounding interpolated blur radius value
 Fix proposed by Michal Fapso michal.fa...@gmail.com
 
 Einar
  

[CinCV] Test packages of Cinelerra-CV 2.2 for ubuntu

2011-11-13 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Dear All,

Test packages of Cinelerra-CV version 2.2 for Ubuntu will be available in the 
next few hours in the cinelerra experimental ppa:

https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/cinelerra-exp/+packages

I'd appreciate if anybody interested could test such builds. If no major issue 
will rise, I will transfer them to the stable cinelerra ppa:

https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa

Thanks to the upstream developers for their great work.

Cheers,
Nicola
  

RE: [CinCV] Compiling Cinelerra on Ubuntu Oneiric (11.10)

2011-11-13 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Raffaella,

The issues about the linker are related to the gcc 4.6, apparently. I wonder if 
it would be worth updating the makefile in the main tree, so people don't have 
to get crazy and specify tags for the linker, manually. 

Also, I am not sure if the debian folder inside the main tree is really 
up-to-date either. The changelog refers to the now very old 2.1.0 version, 
which makes me think that also everything else might be outdated.

Nicola

 

 From: raffaella.tranie...@g-raffa.eu
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Compiling Cinelerra on Ubuntu Oneiric (11.10)
 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:27:23 +0100
 
 On 11/13/2011 09:40 PM, Einar Rünkaru wrote:
  Try
  LDFLAGS='-Xlinker --add-needed'
  or
  LDFLAGS='-Xlinker --copy-dt-needed-entries'
 
 Yesss!
 They both worked to let me pass the configure stage.
 
 Then I met the same error Nicola met:
 
 playback3d.o: In function `Playback3D::do_mask_sync(Playback3DCommand*)':
 playback3d.C:(.text+0x1fd1): undefined reference to `gluNewTess'
 playback3d.C:(.text+0x1ff4): undefined reference to `gluTessProperty'
 playback3d.C:(.text+0x2012): undefined reference to `gluTessCallback'
 playback3d.C:(.text+0x2030): undefined reference to `gluTessCallback'
 playback3d.C:(.text+0x204b): undefined reference to `gluTessCallback'
 playback3d.C:(.text+0x2066): undefined reference to `gluTessCallback'
 playback3d.C:(.text+0x2114): undefined reference to `gluTessBeginPolygon'
 playback3d.C:(.text+0x2123): undefined reference to `gluTessBeginContour'
 playback3d.C:(.text+0x272b): undefined reference to `gluTessVertex'
 playback3d.C:(.text+0x2754): undefined reference to `gluTessEndContour'
 playback3d.C:(.text+0x2763): undefined reference to `gluTessEndPolygon'
 playback3d.C:(.text+0x27ff): undefined reference to `gluDeleteTess'
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 
 I applied Michal's suggestion (-lGLU)
 http://e.kevb.net/lurker/message/20111024.054825.44580d8f.en.html
 making my working configure line like that:
 
 ./configure --with-buildinfo=git/recompile --enable-mmx --without-pic 
 LDFLAGS='-Xlinker --add-needed -lGLU'
 
 I was thus able to compile Cinelerra 2.2 on Ubuntu 11.10.
 
 I can run her but the font on the interface is strange:
 http://g-raffa.eu/Pastebin/CinFont.png
 
 Running Cinelerra from Nicola's Launchpad package has the same effect.
 
 Any idea?
 
 Ciao!
 Raffaella
 
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RE: [CinCV] Compiling Cinelerra on Ubuntu Oneiric (11.10)

2011-10-24 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Thanks again, Michal. Cinelerra now builds fine. 

Packages for Oneiric will be available in the next few hours.

Thanks again,
Nicola

 

 From: michal.fa...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Compiling Cinelerra on Ubuntu Oneiric (11.10)
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 07:48:25 +0200
 
 You are welcome, Nicola. Now you probably need to add -lGLU to
 linker command line.
 Michal
 
 On 23 October 2011 01:42, Nicola Ferralis feran...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Thanks Michal.
 
  It turns out that the error is due to a change in gcc (4.5) that ships with
  Ubuntu, see here:
 
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ToolchainTransition
 
  I explicitly added the library to the makefile in cinelerra source
  (attached). This issue is in the source of Cinelerra, and I think the patch
  should be applied to the main tree (previous testing, of course).
 
  Even with the patch, I still have errors in compilation of Cinelerra under
  Oneiric. This time the error message is:
 
 
  playback3d.o: In function `Playback3D::do_mask_sync(Playback3DCommand*)':
  playback3d.C:(.text+0x1fd1): undefined reference to `gluNewTess'
  playback3d.C:(.text+0x1ff4): undefined reference to `gluTessProperty'
  playback3d.C:(.text+0x2012): undefined reference to `gluTessCallback'
  playback3d.C:(.text+0x2030): undefined reference to `gluTessCallback'
  playback3d.C:(.text+0x204b): undefined reference to `gluTessCallback'
  playback3d.C:(.text+0x2066): undefined reference to `gluTessCallback'
  playback3d.C:(.text+0x2114): undefined reference to `gluTessBeginPolygon'
  playback3d.C:(.text+0x2123): undefined reference to `gluTessBeginContour'
  playback3d.C:(.text+0x272b): undefined reference to `gluTessVertex'
  playback3d.C:(.text+0x2754): undefined reference to `gluTessEndContour'
  playback3d.C:(.text+0x2763): undefined reference to `gluTessEndPolygon'
  playback3d.C:(.text+0x27ff): undefined reference to `gluDeleteTess'
  collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 
  Suggestions?
 
  Thanks again,
  Nicola
 
 
 
 
  From: michal.fa...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [CinCV] Compiling Cinelerra on Ubuntu Oneiric (11.10)
  To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
  Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 07:55:50 +0200
 
  It seems that you need to add -lmp3lame to the linker command line.
  A similar issue is described here:
 
 
  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3476869/g-linker-usr-lib-libgl-so-1-could-not-read-symbols-invalid-operation
 
  Michal
 
  On 21 October 2011 07:15, Nicola Ferralis feran...@hotmail.com wrote:
   Hi,
  
   thanks for the response, the error was due to an improper use of a flag
   during compilation. I still have issues though (and this has been going
   on
   for a while in my builds for Oneiric), which seem related to libmp3lame:
  
   Here's the error log:
  
   /usr/bin/ld: filempeg.o: undefined reference to symbol
   'lame_encode_buffer_float'
   /usr/bin/ld: note: 'lame_encode_buffer_float' is defined in DSO
   /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0 so try adding it to the linker command line
   /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
   collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
  
   Did anybody encounter this error? Any suggestions on how to deal with
   this?
  
   Thanks again,
   Nicola
  
  
  
  
   From: michal.fa...@gmail.com
   Subject: Re: [CinCV] Compiling Cinelerra on Ubuntu Oneiric (11.10)
   To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
   Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 07:31:52 +0200
  
   Hi Nicola,
  
   try to look inside the config.log ...there should be more details
   about the problem or send the whole file here.
  
   Michal
  
   On 20 October 2011 06:02, Nicola Ferralis feran...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi,
   
I keep having compilation issues of my ubuntu packages, in what seems
a
configuration issue. Essentially the error message in the compile log
looks
like this:
   
checking whether the C compiler works... no
configure: error: in `/build/buildd/cinelerra-2.1.5':
configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
   
   
Ubuntu 11.10 uses gcc 4.6, I wonder if anybody experienced similar
issues
with it.
   
Thanks for any insight,
Nicola
   
   
  
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RE: [CinCV] Compiling Cinelerra on Ubuntu Oneiric (11.10)

2011-10-22 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Thanks Michal.

It turns out that the error is due to a change in gcc (4.5) that ships with 
Ubuntu, see here:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ToolchainTransition

I explicitly added the library to the makefile in cinelerra source (attached). 
This issue is in the source of Cinelerra, and I think the patch should be 
applied to the main tree (previous testing, of course).

Even with the patch, I still have errors in compilation of Cinelerra under 
Oneiric. This time the error message is:


playback3d.o: In function `Playback3D::do_mask_sync(Playback3DCommand*)':
playback3d.C:(.text+0x1fd1): undefined reference to `gluNewTess'
playback3d.C:(.text+0x1ff4): undefined reference to `gluTessProperty'
playback3d.C:(.text+0x2012): undefined reference to `gluTessCallback'
playback3d.C:(.text+0x2030): undefined reference to `gluTessCallback'
playback3d.C:(.text+0x204b): undefined reference to `gluTessCallback'
playback3d.C:(.text+0x2066): undefined reference to `gluTessCallback'
playback3d.C:(.text+0x2114): undefined reference to `gluTessBeginPolygon'
playback3d.C:(.text+0x2123): undefined reference to `gluTessBeginContour'
playback3d.C:(.text+0x272b): undefined reference to `gluTessVertex'
playback3d.C:(.text+0x2754): undefined reference to `gluTessEndContour'
playback3d.C:(.text+0x2763): undefined reference to `gluTessEndPolygon'
playback3d.C:(.text+0x27ff): undefined reference to `gluDeleteTess'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

Suggestions?

Thanks again,
Nicola

 

 From: michal.fa...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Compiling Cinelerra on Ubuntu Oneiric (11.10)
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 07:55:50 +0200
 
 It seems that you need to add -lmp3lame to the linker command line.
 A similar issue is described here:
 
 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3476869/g-linker-usr-lib-libgl-so-1-could-not-read-symbols-invalid-operation
 
 Michal
 
 On 21 October 2011 07:15, Nicola Ferralis feran...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  thanks for the response, the error was due to an improper use of a flag
  during compilation. I still have issues though (and this has been going on
  for a while in my builds for Oneiric), which seem related to libmp3lame:
 
  Here's the error log:
 
  /usr/bin/ld: filempeg.o: undefined reference to symbol
  'lame_encode_buffer_float'
  /usr/bin/ld: note: 'lame_encode_buffer_float' is defined in DSO
  /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0 so try adding it to the linker command line
  /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
  collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 
  Did anybody encounter this error? Any suggestions on how to deal with this?
 
  Thanks again,
  Nicola
 
 
 
 
  From: michal.fa...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [CinCV] Compiling Cinelerra on Ubuntu Oneiric (11.10)
  To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
  Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 07:31:52 +0200
 
  Hi Nicola,
 
  try to look inside the config.log ...there should be more details
  about the problem or send the whole file here.
 
  Michal
 
  On 20 October 2011 06:02, Nicola Ferralis feran...@hotmail.com wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I keep having compilation issues of my ubuntu packages, in what seems a
   configuration issue. Essentially the error message in the compile log
   looks
   like this:
  
   checking whether the C compiler works... no
   configure: error: in `/build/buildd/cinelerra-2.1.5':
   configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
  
  
   Ubuntu 11.10 uses gcc 4.6, I wonder if anybody experienced similar
   issues
   with it.
  
   Thanks for any insight,
   Nicola
  
  
 
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  diff -Nru cinelerra.orig//cinelerra/Makefile.am cinelerra/cinelerra/Makefile.am
--- cinelerra.orig//cinelerra/Makefile.am	2010-11-24 18:18:03.0 -0500
+++ cinelerra/cinelerra/Makefile.am	2011-10-22 18:58:12.395221105 -0400
@@ -683,7 +683,7 @@
 	$(XIPH_LIBS) \
 	$(A52DEC_LIBS) \
 	$(OPENEXR_LIBS) \
-	-lsndfile \
+	-lsndfile -lmp3lame\
 	-lpng -ljpeg -ltiff -lz \
 	$(SOUND_LDFLAGS) \
 	$(FIREWIRE_LDFLAGS) \


RE: [CinCV] Compiling Cinelerra on Ubuntu Oneiric (11.10)

2011-10-20 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Hi,

thanks for the response, the error was due to an improper use of a flag during 
compilation. I still have issues though (and this has been going on for a while 
in my builds for Oneiric), which seem related to libmp3lame:

Here's the error log:
/usr/bin/ld: filempeg.o: undefined reference to symbol 
'lame_encode_buffer_float'
/usr/bin/ld: note: 'lame_encode_buffer_float' is defined in DSO 
/usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0 so try adding it to the linker command line
/usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

Did anybody encounter this error? Any suggestions on how to deal with this?

Thanks again,
Nicola

 

 From: michal.fa...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Compiling Cinelerra on Ubuntu Oneiric (11.10)
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 07:31:52 +0200
 
 Hi Nicola,
 
 try to look inside the config.log ...there should be more details
 about the problem or send the whole file here.
 
 Michal
 
 On 20 October 2011 06:02, Nicola Ferralis feran...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I keep having compilation issues of my ubuntu packages, in what seems a
  configuration issue. Essentially the error message in the compile log looks
  like this:
 
  checking whether the C compiler works... no
  configure: error: in `/build/buildd/cinelerra-2.1.5':
  configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
 
 
  Ubuntu 11.10 uses gcc 4.6, I wonder if anybody experienced similar issues
  with it.
 
  Thanks for any insight,
  Nicola
 
 
 
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[CinCV] Compiling Cinelerra on Ubuntu Oneiric (11.10)

2011-10-19 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Hi,

I keep having compilation issues of my ubuntu packages, in what seems a 
configuration issue. Essentially the error message in the compile log looks 
like this:

checking whether the C compiler works... no
configure: error: in `/build/buildd/cinelerra-2.1.5':
configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables


Ubuntu 11.10 uses gcc 4.6, I wonder if anybody experienced similar issues with 
it. 

Thanks for any insight,
Nicola

  

RE: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license

2011-10-06 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Glen, 

Please don't feel you're under any pressure, or attack. GPL issues are far from 
being clear to everybody. 

I'd just like to add that I have doubts you can re-license the GPL components 
(which are essentially Debian, so GPL v2), into GPL v3. 

Can anybody confirm this?

Nicola

 

 Subject: Re: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license
 From: i...@bandshed.net
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 14:29:33 -0700
 
 Eeesh!
 
 Joining this list has been both uncomfortable and educational at the same
 time...is everyone greeted with such 'hospitality'?...lol
 
 OK, so what about this:
 
 AV Linux goes GPL(3) and I issue a disclaimer statement declaring which
 EXACT packages are 'non-free' but come bundled with the ISO and clearly
 state that the declared non-free packages must be removed in order to
 redistribute AV Linux...
 
 Will this appease the powers that be?
 
 In all seriousness thanks for the feedback, -GLEN
 
 
 
  Well I'm not a lawyer either so we have something in common!
 
  Hi Glen and the others,
 
  likewise, I'll join the club of non-lawyers discussing legal issues ;-)
 
  Am 05.10.2011 00:41, schrieb i...@bandshed.net:
  I've been distributing AV Linux like this since 2007 and 
 
  ... but I was under the impression that any derived work could be
  licensed
  outside of the GPL provided the source code of the derived work was made
  available upon request.
 
  This impression is simply wrong. You just had the luck that no one sued
  you.
 
  This matter isn't difficult.
  Any confusion boils down to being precise with the term derived work.
 
 
  If you want to license a derived work *outside* the GPL, then you need
  to
  negotiate with *each* contributor to the GPLed work to get you an
  *separate*
  usage agreement for his/her code *independent* of that code being
  published
  also under the GPL.
 
  If you can't do that, the GPL as it stands is crisp and clear.
  *You* use GPLed content to build your derived work.
  This implies that *you* comply to the GPL beforehand.
  And the GPL dictates that every derived work has to be
  *licensed again under the GPL*. End of the discussion.
 
 
  This is what often is referred to as the infectious or viral property
  of the GPL. Other licenses (e.g. the Apache License) are deliberately
  different and do not employ this strict ruling.
 
  The 'source code' is the ISO image...
 
  Sorry, no.
  Source code is source code is source code. This isn't a matter for
  interpretation. Source code is an textual or similarly editable
  representation from which you can re-create your whole delivery.
 
  There is an absolutely simple criterion: What everyone can rebuild
  from the accessible source code, needs to be equivalent to what
  you distribute in binary form (including all your modifications).
 
  Btw: that exactly was the reason why GPL doesn't play well for
  distributing media content. That's one of the reasons, why
  we have the CreativeCommons licenses.
 
 
   and of course the GPL content of Debian has it's source code freely
  available as well. Regardless the icluded closed source content falls
  outside
  of the GPL and there is no law forbidding me to distribute it on an ISO
  of my
  making providing I have the permission of the developers which I do.
 
  What you do here is compiling several products into a distribution.
  That is another matter altogether. Indeed you're free to do so. The key
  distinguishing point is if you just ship independent pieces together,
  as opposed to combining GPLed and non-GPLed code into a new product.
 
  If you do the latter, the GPL rulez! But you're always free to do the
  former (just shipping together). Just in that case you need to make clear
  to your users that they get content with two different licenses, and,
  because you're distributing GPLed content as part of your distribution,
  *you* need to make the source code for that GPLed content available.
 
  It doesn't suffice that you state that everyone interested can get the
  source code from somewhere. *You* need to provide it. The GPL-2 even
  contains some rules on how, and how much you're allowed to charge for
  e.g. mailing an CD with source code to a user requesting that from you.
 
  The GPL-2 is very outdated in that respect, indeed. If I recall correct,
  only the GPL-3 contains a ruling that it is sufficient to publish an
  URL to a net server holding the full and exact source code, and that
  you're not bound to ship floppies to some bozo in Mongolia where there
  is no internet access. Nevertheless, even with the GPL-3, you need to
  assure that that net server is reasonably accessible.
 
  To elaborate on that point: Debian doesn't keep an archive of superseded
  source code versions. If you e.g. base your code modifications on some
  library in Debian/oldstable, some years ahead that basic code won't
  be accessible from Debian anymore. If you hit an evil spirited lawyer,
  you can get a lot of 

RE: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license

2011-10-04 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Glen,

Thanks for the clarifications. Although I am not a lawyer, I have doubts about 
the fact that the license in AV linux can be changed at the developer's 
convenience, since it still is derived work. The GPL specifically says that 
derived work qualifies for the GPL license itself. LGPL is more relaxed in 
these terms. But the fact that AV linux is distributed with a non GPL license, 
while most of its components are, it looks to me as a potential violation of 
the license itself. 

Again, I am not a lawyer, and I am just trying to understand the situation.

Thanks again,
Nicola

 

 From: i...@bandshed.net
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license
 Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 10:41:12 -0700
 
 Hi fellow CinCV'ers
 
 I recently was browsing the mail archives here and noticed some concern
 over the AV Linux 5.0 release announcement I posted here in June. My
 sincere apologies for not replying, at the time I was not a Cinelerra
 mailing list subscriber so any replies to my announcement didn't come back
 to me.
 
 Hopefully I can clarify what 'non-GPL' means in reference to AV Linux for
 those on the list who care to know...
 
 AV Linux is a multimedia focused distro and contains both excellent
 Open-Source programs and also Commercial Linux Audio Plugins and
 Sequencers that are presented as demos. I personally am not a very
 political Linux user and enjoy both open and closed Linux software so I
 made arrangements with each individual developer/vendor of the commercial
 applications to include the demo versions in AV Linux.
 
 The terms of the demo licenses were that I could distribute them in AV
 Linux however someone could not re-distribute AV Linux as-is without
 violating those licenses. This is why AV Linux is non-GPL because it can't
 be redistributed as-is. However AV Linux with all the commercial demos
 removed is simply a heavily tweaked and customized Debian Squeeze and
 would be GPL like the software it contains.
 
 I am a huge fan of Cinelerra and would very much like to use my AV Linux
 distribution to promote and further it's use as well as it's
 contemporaries. I take a personal interest in it and have recently done a
 lot of behind the scenes configuration work to make easier for new users
 in the next AV Linux release. I sincerely hope that this post clears up
 any confusion or concern about my intentions.
 
 Best Regards, Glen MacArthur - AV Linux Maintainer
 
 
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RE: [CinCV] More on testing

2011-09-21 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Hi,

I would like to just add a quick note regarding the cinelerra-ppa repository 
for Ubuntu (which I maintain). These packages will be updated only after 
cinelerra 2.2 has stabilized and the official cinelerraCV-2.2 will be released.

Thanks,
Nicola

 

 From: raffaella.tranie...@g-raffa.eu
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: [CinCV] More on testing
 Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:10:08 +0200
 
 Ciao to all of you!
 And a special ciao to the testers!
 
 
 Here are some more tips for testing:
 
   NEW AND OLD BUGS
 
 We are now focussing on the bugs created by the changes:
 - Bézier Automation
 - compilation on 2.6.38+ kernels, v4l and buz drivers
 Please, test and report back to this mailing list about bugs created by 
 those changes.
 
 If during testing you find other old bugs, treat them separately.
 If the bug is not already reported to the bugtracker, please create a 
 new ticket with as much details as you can.
 Bugtracker: http://bugs.cinelerra.org/
 
   BEZIER AUTOMATION
 
 To know which changes are made by the Bezier patch, you can have a look 
 at the patch documentation:
 http://ichthyostega.de/cinelerra/bezier-patch/
 
   COMPILATION ON UBUNTU
 
 No packages will be available for testing because compilation is one of 
 the processes that needs testing.
 
 Compilation is supposed to be easy and successful also for newbies.
 It will take about 20'. If Cinelerra doesn't compile, then the testing 
 was successful in finding a bug. :-)
 
 For compiling on any Ubuntu follow the instructions at
 http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/compilation.html
 
 Just some notes on those instructions:
 
 1.
 Don't get the current code. Instead get the source code from
 http://git.cinelerra.org/gitweb?p=CinelerraCV.git;a=snapshot;h=77f464b5dafd2c441ccc55282a9489250b83306f;sf=tgz
 
 2.
 Ignore the note For Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narval about Video for Linux 
 version 1 (V4L1). This code is supposed to work with no need for patches.
 
 3.
 If you have a 64bit system, don't forget to use the configure options 
 for 64bit systems:
 
 ./configure --with-buildinfo=git/recompile
 
 4. Those compilation commands don't enable OpenGL.
 
 If compilation goes wrong, post the last lines (with the error) of the 
 terminal output to the list.
 
 
 Happy testing! :-)
 
 Ciao
 Raffaella
 
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RE: [CinCV] Compile error with kernel 3.0

2011-09-02 Thread Nicola Ferralis

It should be:

patch -p0 -i remove-support-v4l-buzz-3.diff

BTW, any hope t see this merged into the main tree?

Regards,
NF

 

 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Compile error with kernel 3.0
 From: eina...@smail.ee
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 16:27:45 +0300
 
 On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Paolo Valtorta
 paolo.valto...@gmail.com wrote:
  I've downloaded the patch remove-support-v4l-buzz-3.diff for
  recompile cinelerra-cv with kernel 3.0, but I don't understand the
  command for apply the patch.
  I trougth with patch -i remove-support-v4l-buzz-3.diff but the result is:
 
 Command is:
 patch -p1  remove-support-v4l-buzz-3.diff
 
 Einar
 
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RE: Re : [CinCV] Ubuntu and cinelerra 4.2

2011-07-23 Thread Nicola Ferralis

As I mentioned in my previous reply (I think...) you can adapt the patch for 
Cinelerra 2.1.5 to make it work with Cinelerra 4.2...

See here:

http://www.mail-archive.com/cinelerra@skolelinux.no/msg12641.html

or the file attached (again, keep in mind that it's for Cinelerra 2.1.5, so you 
might need to manually modify/apply the patch).

Nicola

 

From: laurent_w...@yahoo.fr
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: Re : [CinCV] Ubuntu and cinelerra 4.2
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:30:20 +0400



  




  
  
Hi, I'm back and there's another problem at the make stage :

in the cinelerra directory, make finished with an error :



 make[2]: entrant dans le répertoire «
/home/laurent/Téléchargements/cinelerra-4.2/cinelerra »

g++ -c `cat i686/c_flags`  vdevicebuz.C -o i686/vdevicebuz.o

vdevicebuz.C:48:28: fatal error: linux/videodev.h: Aucun fichier ou
dossier de ce type

compilation terminated.

make[2]: *** [i686/vdevicebuz.o] Erreur 1

make[2]: quittant le répertoire «
/home/laurent/Téléchargements/cinelerra-4.2/cinelerra »



It seems to be the same problem like the mjpegtools : the lack of
linux/videodev.h in the last kernel (for mjpegtools I found a patch
to solve the problem).

Any issues for this last error?



The result is that there's no cinelerra executable after the make
command.





Le 20/07/2011 19:54, Laurent HOAREAU a écrit :

  
  
  OK Nicola,

  I tried the replace solution and the make step finished fine. I
  don't try the make install step because I try to make it whith
  checkinstall...

  

  

  Le 20/07/2011 09:07, Nicola Ferralis a écrit :
  

 Or you can also follow the suggestion of a
  simpler method, in comment #4, from the same link I posted
  previously. (I would still recommend the replacement of the
  library as it provides a compilation against a much newer
  library).

  

  Nicola

  

   

  

  

  
From: feran...@hotmail.com

To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no

Subject: RE: Re : [CinCV] Ubuntu and cinelerra 4.2

Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:03:40 -0700






 The issue is within the version of faad2
  included in Cinelerra 4.2, which is obsolete. I had
  success in the past by simply drop replacement of faad (in
  the folder you reported) using a more recent version. To
  make it work, however, I had to rename the folder as the
  old one, faad2-2.0.

  

  More details and howto here (comment #5):

  

  
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=2944664group_id=13554atid=113554

  

  Also note that the issue, apparently, is only present in
  the 32bit version of Ubuntu, 64bit is fine. Also this is
  not an issue for Ubuntu but also for other distros.

  

  

  I hope it helps.

  Nicola

  

  

  

  
From: laurent_w...@yahoo.fr

Subject: Re : [CinCV] Ubuntu and cinelerra 4.2

To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no

Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 05:26:09 +0100





  I tried to install the 4.2 version on Ubuntu
10.04. But I've got errors at the make.

I think that I have the good dependencies. In
  facts, I followed these instructions : 
http://sideways.bplaced.net/en/sachkunde/cinelerra-4-2-unter-ubuntu-kompilieren/

I make the modifications at the file 
cinelerra-4.2/quicktime/thirdparty/faad2-2.0/libfaad/common.h.

But I still have problems :



if /bin/bash ../../libtool --mode=compile g++
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../include  
-D_REENTRANT -DNOCONTROLS -fexceptions  -g -O2 -MT
faad2.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/faad2.Tpo -c -o
faad2.lo faad2.cpp; \

then mv -f .deps/faad2.Tpo .deps/faad2.Plo;
else rm -f .deps/faad2.Tpo; exit 1; fi

 g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../include
-D_REENTRANT -DNOCONTROLS -fexceptions -g -O2 -MT
faad2.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/faad2.Tpo -c faad2.cpp 
-fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/faad2.o

In file included from faad2.cpp:21:

faad2.h:28:26: error: codec_plugin.h: No such file
or directory

faad2.cpp:22:32: error

RE: [CinCV] cinelerra 4,2 and cv 2,1,5

2011-07-20 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Thanks, Hermann for the very good insight of the evolution of Cinelerra 
development. I wonder what are really the main differences that have been 
introduced in Cinelerra-CV compared to the most close version of upstream 
(2.1?). That might put in perspective what exactly is needed to take 
Cinelerra-HW 4.2 into CV.

Thanks again,
Nicola

 

 From: p...@ichthyostega.de
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] cinelerra 4,2 and cv 2,1,5
 Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 01:08:13 +0200
 
 Am 20.07.2011 18:12, schrieb Haldun ALTAN:
  I followed the discussion about installing cinelerra 4,2 on ubuntu 
  10,04 
  Following grandma's way. I just wanted to know if we can have the two 
  version
  together ? Is there any conflict or tips to avoid them ?
 
 
 Hi Haldun,
 
 do you mean:
 installing HV-Version4.2 and CV-2.1.5 simultaneously on the same system?
 
 That's dangerous or even impossible, because Cinelerra loads parts of the
 code as dynamic library, which might lead to mixing up code from both
 versions in an unpredictable manner. (It depends very much on minute
 details of your setup if this works or causes problems).
 
 or did you mean:
 Why can't we just create a version which joins both codebases togther
 and gives us the best of both worlds?
 
 Indeed, that's a bit depressing. It *would* be possible and for sure
 would bring ahead the Cinelerra community by a large step. Unfortunately
 doing so requires some amount of work. Work, which is not exciting,
 just rewarding in the sense of having achieved something. Judging
 from my gut feelings, I'd guess that to be about one week of full
 time developer work.
 
 What puzzles me is, this just doesn't happen since some years now.
 And what's yet more surprising is, that -- for earlier versions,
 like 2.0 or 2.1, it *did* happen. The breaking point, where this
 changed was around 2007, if I recall correct. But I'm still at
 a loss, when it comes to understanding what actually changed?
 Was the community more vibrant at those good old times?
 Did Cinelerra look more attractive in those years?
 Was there a change in the general Opensource culture??
 
   Hermann V.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [CinCV] Ubuntu and cinelerra 4.2

2011-07-19 Thread Nicola Ferralis

If you have the correct dependencies installed, Cinelerra 4.2 installs fine on 
10.04 (as well as 10.10). It doesn't, however, if you run 11.04, due to some 
changes  in the kernel. While a patch for Cinelerra-CV 2.1.5:

https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa

 I haven't ported it to 4.2. It's in my plans. However, currently the lack of 
access to Natty 11.04 will prevent me from doing so for a while. 

Nicola 

rant
Apologies for the rant that follows. I am still running 10.10 in my laptop, as 
11.04 is 
horribly buggy and essentially unusable in my laptop. It is by far the worst 
Ubuntu 
release ever for me. I have no time or desire to compensate for such 
limitations by creating a virtual instance of it./rant



To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
From: laurent_w...@yahoo.fr
Subject: [CinCV] Ubuntu and cinelerra 4.2
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 06:05:12 +0400

HI everyone. Did anyone try to install cinelerra 4.2 from sources? I tried on 
ubuntu 10.04 with no sucess.
Tanks for any ideas...


  

RE: Re : [CinCV] Ubuntu and cinelerra 4.2

2011-07-19 Thread Nicola Ferralis

The issue is within the version of faad2 included in Cinelerra 4.2, which is 
obsolete. I had success in the past by simply drop replacement of faad (in the 
folder you reported) using a more recent version. To make it work, however, I 
had to rename the folder as the old one, faad2-2.0.

More details and howto here (comment #5):

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=2944664group_id=13554atid=113554

Also note that the issue, apparently, is only present in the 32bit version of 
Ubuntu, 64bit is fine. Also this is not an issue for Ubuntu but also for other 
distros.
I hope it helps.Nicola


From: laurent_w...@yahoo.fr
Subject: Re : [CinCV] Ubuntu and cinelerra 4.2
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 05:26:09 +0100



I tried to install the 4.2 version on Ubuntu 10.04. But I've got errors at the 
make.
I think that I have the good dependencies. In facts, I followed these 
instructions : 
http://sideways.bplaced.net/en/sachkunde/cinelerra-4-2-unter-ubuntu-kompilieren/
I make the modifications at the file 
cinelerra-4.2/quicktime/thirdparty/faad2-2.0/libfaad/common.h.
But I still have problems :

if /bin/bash ../../libtool --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. 
-I../../include   -D_REENTRANT -DNOCONTROLS -fexceptions  -g -O2 -MT faad2.lo 
-MD -MP -MF .deps/faad2.Tpo -c -o
 faad2.lo faad2.cpp; \
then mv -f .deps/faad2.Tpo .deps/faad2.Plo; else rm -f 
.deps/faad2.Tpo; exit 1; fi
 g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../include -D_REENTRANT -DNOCONTROLS 
-fexceptions -g -O2 -MT faad2.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/faad2.Tpo -c faad2.cpp  
-fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/faad2.o
In file included from faad2.cpp:21:
faad2.h:28:26: error: codec_plugin.h: No such file or directory
faad2.cpp:22:32: error: mpeg4_audio_config.h: No such file or directory
faad2.cpp:23:23: error: mpeg4_sdp.h: No such file or directory
In file included from faad2.cpp:21:
faad2.h:36: error: 'codec_data_t' does not name a type
faad2.h:37: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'audio_vft_t' with no type
faad2.h:37: error: expected ';' before '*' token
faad2.h:55: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'FILE' with no type
faad2.h:55: error: expected ';' before '*' token
faad2.h:70: error: variable or
 field 'aac_close' declared void
faad2.h:70: error: 'codec_data_t' was not declared in this scope
faad2.h:70: error: 'ptr' was not declared in this scope
faad2.h:73: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion before 
'*' token
faad2.h:82: error: 'codec_data_t' was not declared in this scope
faad2.h:82: error: 'ifptr' was not declared in this scope
faad2.h:83: error: expected primary-expression before '*' token
faad2.h:83: error: 'buffer' was not declared in this scope
faad2.h:84: error: expected primary-expression before '*' token
faad2.h:84: error: 'ts' was not declared in this scope
faad2.h:84: error: initializer expression list treated as compound expression
faad2.h:85: error: 'codec_data_t' was not declared in this scope
faad2.h:85: error: 'ifptr' was not declared in this scope
faad2.h:87: error: variable or field 'aac_file_used_for_frame' declared void
faad2.h:87: error: 'codec_data_t' was
 not declared in this scope
faad2.h:87: error: 'ifptr' was not declared in this scope
faad2.h:88: error: expected primary-expression before 'bytes'
faad2.h:90: error: 'codec_data_t' was not declared in this scope
faad2.h:90: error: 'ifptr' was not declared in this scope
faad2.h:91: error: expected primary-expression before 'ts'
faad2.h:91: error: initializer expression list treated as compound expression
faad2.cpp:38: error: expected initializer before '*' token
make[6]: *** [faad2.lo] Erreur 1
make[6]: quittant le répertoire « 
/home/laurenth/Téléchargements/cinelerra-4.2/quicktime/thirdparty/faad2-2.0/plugins/mpeg4ip
 »
make[5]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1
make[5]: quittant le répertoire « 
/home/laurenth/Téléchargements/cinelerra-4.2/quicktime/thirdparty/faad2-2.0/plugins
 »
make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1
make[4]: quittant le répertoire «
 /home/laurenth/Téléchargements/cinelerra-4.2/quicktime/thirdparty/faad2-2.0 »
make[3]: *** [all] Erreur 2
make[3]: quittant le répertoire « 
/home/laurenth/Téléchargements/cinelerra-4.2/quicktime/thirdparty/faad2-2.0 »
make[2]: *** [i686/faad] Erreur 2
make[2]: quittant le répertoire « 
/home/laurenth/Téléchargements/cinelerra-4.2/quicktime »
make[1]: *** [all] Erreur 2
make[1]: quittant le répertoire « /home/laurenth/Téléchargements/cinelerra-4.2 »
make: *** [all] Erreur 2
laurenth@RESIR9-U:~/Téléchargements/cinelerra-4.2$ ^C
laurenth@RESIR9-U:~/Téléchargements/cinelerra-4.2$ 

 and effectively, no codec_plugin.h anywhere...

So, where can I find this file? Is it a problem of dependencies?
I tried to install the devel libraries that cinelerra tried to compile. But no 
success...

Any Ideas?


De : Nicola Ferralis feran...@hotmail.com
À : cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Envoyé le : Mer 20 juillet 2011, 7h 48min 05s
Objet : RE: [CinCV] Ubuntu and cinelerra 4.2

RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra HV 4.2 remove-support-v4l-buzz-3-cinelerra4-2.diff

2011-07-07 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Just a clarification: the original poster asked for a patch for cinelerra 4.2 
HV, not for CV 2.1.5. My original patch was a rushed up version from that for 
cinelerra CV. I am traveling right now, and have no time to make a better patch 
for HV 4.2. I will post here a revised patch later next week.
Nicola

 

 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra HV 4.2  
 remove-support-v4l-buzz-3-cinelerra4-2.diff
 From: raf...@riseup.net
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 07:19:39 -0700
 
 Hi Raffaella,
 For sure, I can help to review/apply patches in my free time.
 
 
 Cheers,
 Rafael Diniz
 
  Hi Rafael!
 
  Nobody applied any of the proposed patches?
 
  Applied where?
  At the moment we have only personal repos.
  We miss an official CinCV repo, because we miss the human resources
  needed to maintain it.
 
  The present archive for patches is the mailing list.
  This is not a very effective system.
  During recent dev meetings we proposed a change:
  https://init.linpro.no/pipermail/skolelinux.no/cinelerra/2011-June/017934.html
 
  Are you interested in collaborating?
 
  Ciao
  Raffaella
 
 
 
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RE: [CinCV] Windows version of Cinelerra

2011-07-03 Thread Nicola Ferralis

VirtualBox is also another fine virtual machine option. Free both as in beer 
and speech (i.e. most of it is opensource).

Nicola

From: e...@billauer.co.il
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: Re: [CinCV] Windows version of Cinelerra
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 21:15:22 +0300






  


If you're really into
it, try downloading VMPlayer for Windows, and run some Linux on it. And
then Cinelerra on the Linux machine.



http://www.vmware.com/products/player/



It's free (as in free
beer) and my guess is that it'll work pretty well. But I haven't tried
it myself.



But beware of large
files ( 2 GB)





   Eli





Bobalina Corncob wrote:

  
  Are you guys working on
making a Windows Version of Cinelerra or is it just only going to be
for Linux OS.Please reply back.
  





-- 
Web: http://www.billauer.co.il
  

RE: [CinCV] CinelerraCV 2.1.5 back in AV Linux 5.0

2011-06-18 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Glen,

Reading from the main page of AVLinux: 

AV
Linux is a non-GPL custom shop modded and rodded Linux based Operating
System
built from a hand-picked selection of available tools including
Debian/GNU Linux

Can you clarify what non-GPL actually means? Furthermore, I don't see anywhere 
any link to the source code, but maybe I just missed it...

Thanks for any insight.

Regards,Nicola


 From: i...@bandshed.net
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: [CinCV] CinelerraCV 2.1.5 back in AV Linux 5.0
 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:18:23 -0700
 
 Hi Cinelerra folks!
 
 Just a quick note to let you know that AV Linux 5.0 has been released and
 now features Cinelerra 2.1.5CV. The previous AV Linux 4.2 had Cinelerra
 4.2HV. On the Cinelerra site AV Linux is listed with LXDE and XFCE
 desktops however for quite some time it has only had the LXDE Desktop.
 
 Just passing that along if you are interested in updating the info at
 CinelerraCV. Thaks for all your hard work and promotion of Cinelerra!
 
 AV Linux website: http://www.bandshed.net/AVLinux.html
 
 Best Regards, Glen MacArthur - AV Linux Maintainer
 
 
 
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RE: [CinCV] v4l1 patch, try2

2011-05-30 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Rafael,

thanks again for the patch. The last version sounds reasonable. I upload test 
builds in the PPA with it. Regarding the preloading of libv4lcompat, I handle 
that directly within the package (by requiring installation of the proper 
library). 

It'd be great if people with v4l-needing hardware could test it, once it's 
available. 

Thanks again,
Nicola

 



 Subject: Re: [CinCV] v4l1 patch, try2
 From: raf...@riseup.net
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 10:06:44 -0700
 
 People,
 Thinking a little, after Einar email, I reached a patch that:
 
 - keeps v4l support as always for people using kernel = 2.6.37
 - keeps v4l support for people using kernel = 2.6.38, needs
 LD_PRELOAD'ing of libv4l1compat.so
 - cinelerra compiles fine with and without libv4l
 - adds videodev.h to our tree
 
 ; )
 
 
 
  Hi Einar,
  I must disagree with you.
 
  If you take a look at the old videodev.h, there is this statement:
 
   *  Video for Linux version 1 - OBSOLETE
   *
   *  Header file for v4l1 drivers and applications, for
   *  Linux kernels 2.2.x or 2.4.x.
   *
   *  Provides header for legacy drivers and applications
 
 
  And now it's gone.
  There is no such device you're saying that have only v4l1 driver. V4L1 is
  not present in kernel for a long long time (only the V4L1 compatibility
  layer was there).
  Anyone using kernel 2.4?
  IMHO, the correct way to support V4L1 is using libv4l.
 
  Of course we could commit videodev.h inside our cinelerra tree in order to
  get rid of the libv4l dependency for those still using kernel = 2.6.37 or
  that don't need V4L support at all.
 
  Best regards,
  Rafael Diniz
 
 
  Hi.
 
  You must not unconditionally remove v4l1 support. I think that
  configure must detect v4l1 and if it does not exist use libv4l1. There
  may be some older devices, that have only v4l1 drivers. We have to
  leave user an option to use older kernel with v4l1 support. Option to
  fully remove v4l1 would be nice too.
 
  Einar
 
 
 
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RE: [CinCV] v4l1 patch, try2

2011-05-30 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Hi Rafael,

the version packaged in the PPA is designed so that the binary of cinelerra 
isn't launched directly, but through a script that hadles some localization 
issues. I added the extra line there, so the user will run the the LD_PRELOAD 
every time cinelerra is launched. 

I know this isn't perfect, as many people would not want to have it. But the 
script can be modified to remove that extra line

Best,
Nicola

 



 Subject: RE: [CinCV] v4l1 patch, try2
 From: raf...@riseup.net
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 11:12:48 -0700
 
 Hi Nicola,
 Just as curiosity, how do you handle LD_PRELOAD from within the package?
 
 Best regards,
 Rafael Diniz
 
 
  Rafael,
 
  thanks again for the patch. The last version sounds reasonable. I upload
  test builds in the PPA with it. Regarding the preloading of libv4lcompat,
  I handle that directly within the package (by requiring installation of
  the proper library).
 
  It'd be great if people with v4l-needing hardware could test it, once it's
  available.
 
  Thanks again,
  Nicola
 
 
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [CinCV] v4l1 patch, try2
  From: raf...@riseup.net
  To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
  Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 10:06:44 -0700
 
  People,
  Thinking a little, after Einar email, I reached a patch that:
 
  - keeps v4l support as always for people using kernel = 2.6.37
  - keeps v4l support for people using kernel = 2.6.38, needs
  LD_PRELOAD'ing of libv4l1compat.so
  - cinelerra compiles fine with and without libv4l
  - adds videodev.h to our tree
 
  ; )
 
 
 
   Hi Einar,
   I must disagree with you.
  
   If you take a look at the old videodev.h, there is this statement:
  
*   Video for Linux version 1 - OBSOLETE
*
*   Header file for v4l1 drivers and applications, for
*   Linux kernels 2.2.x or 2.4.x.
*
*   Provides header for legacy drivers and applications
  
  
   And now it's gone.
   There is no such device you're saying that have only v4l1 driver. V4L1
  is
   not present in kernel for a long long time (only the V4L1
  compatibility
   layer was there).
   Anyone using kernel 2.4?
   IMHO, the correct way to support V4L1 is using libv4l.
  
   Of course we could commit videodev.h inside our cinelerra tree in
  order to
   get rid of the libv4l dependency for those still using kernel =
  2.6.37 or
   that don't need V4L support at all.
  
   Best regards,
   Rafael Diniz
  
  
   Hi.
  
   You must not unconditionally remove v4l1 support. I think that
   configure must detect v4l1 and if it does not exist use libv4l1.
  There
   may be some older devices, that have only v4l1 drivers. We have to
   leave user an option to use older kernel with v4l1 support. Option to
   fully remove v4l1 would be nice too.
  
   Einar
  
  
  
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RE: [CinCV] v4l1 patch, try2

2011-05-30 Thread Nicola Ferralis

For anyone interested in testing the new patch, it is currently in the 
experimental branch of the Cinelerra-ppa for Ubuntu (natty only at the moment):

https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/cinelerra-exp

Thanks in advance for anybody willing to test it (in particular the v4l 
performance).

Best,
Nicola

 



From: feran...@hotmail.com
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: RE: [CinCV] v4l1 patch, try2
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 17:01:40 -0700








Hi Rafael,

the version packaged in the PPA is designed so that the binary of cinelerra 
isn't launched directly, but through a script that hadles some localization 
issues. I added the extra line there, so the user will run the the LD_PRELOAD 
every time cinelerra is launched. 

I know this isn't perfect, as many people would not want to have it. But the 
script can be modified to remove that extra line

Best,
Nicola

 




 Subject: RE: [CinCV] v4l1 patch, try2
 From: raf...@riseup.net
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 11:12:48 -0700
 
 Hi Nicola,
 Just as curiosity, how do you handle LD_PRELOAD from within the package?
 
 Best regards,
 Rafael Diniz
 
 
  Rafael,
 
  thanks again for the patch. The last version sounds reasonable. I upload
  test builds in the PPA with it. Regarding the preloading of libv4lcompat,
  I handle that directly within the package (by requiring installation of
  the proper library).
 
  It'd be great if people with v4l-needing hardware could test it, once it's
  available.
 
  Thanks again,
  Nicola
 
 
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [CinCV] v4l1 patch, try2
  From: raf...@riseup.net
  To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
  Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 10:06:44 -0700
 
  People,
  Thinking a little, after Einar email, I reached a patch that:
 
  - keeps v4l support as always for people using kernel = 2.6.37
  - keeps v4l support for people using kernel = 2.6.38, needs
  LD_PRELOAD'ing of libv4l1compat.so
  - cinelerra compiles fine with and without libv4l
  - adds videodev.h to our tree
 
  ; )
 
 
 
   Hi Einar,
   I must disagree with you.
  
   If you take a look at the old videodev.h, there is this statement:
  
*   Video for Linux version 1 - OBSOLETE
*
*   Header file for v4l1 drivers and applications, for
*   Linux kernels 2.2.x or 2.4.x.
*
*   Provides header for legacy drivers and applications
  
  
   And now it's gone.
   There is no such device you're saying that have only v4l1 driver. V4L1
  is
   not present in kernel for a long long time (only the V4L1
  compatibility
   layer was there).
   Anyone using kernel 2.4?
   IMHO, the correct way to support V4L1 is using libv4l.
  
   Of course we could commit videodev.h inside our cinelerra tree in
  order to
   get rid of the libv4l dependency for those still using kernel =
  2.6.37 or
   that don't need V4L support at all.
  
   Best regards,
   Rafael Diniz
  
  
   Hi.
  
   You must not unconditionally remove v4l1 support. I think that
   configure must detect v4l1 and if it does not exist use libv4l1.
  There
   may be some older devices, that have only v4l1 drivers. We have to
   leave user an option to use older kernel with v4l1 support. Option to
   fully remove v4l1 would be nice too.
  
   Einar
  
  
  
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RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra on =2.6.38 (patch removing buzz and v4l1 support)

2011-05-28 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Thanks, Rafael. Considering the successful outcome of your simpler patch (which 
doesn't disable v4l), I pushed an update of cinelerra in the PPA for Ubuntu 
Natty. I'd appreciate if any interested user could test the new binaries and 
let me know of any issue.

Thanks again,
Nicola  

 



 Subject: RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra on =2.6.38 (patch removing buzz and v4l1  
 support)
 From: raf...@riseup.net
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 14:08:48 -0700
 
 I tested it and cinelerra opens and seems to work as always.
 But I don't have a iOmega Buzz hardware to test the support for it..
 
 Best regards,
 Rafael Diniz
 
 
  Have you tested the patch? It looks it will fail because it doesn't remove
  support for iOmega Buzz (that my patch did).
 
 
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra on =2.6.38 (patch removing buzz and v4l1
support)
  From: raf...@riseup.net
  To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
  Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 15:06:33 -0700
 
  For those in ubuntu 11.04, or any newer distribution with kernel =
  2.6.38,
  please do:
  # apt-get install libv4l-dev
 
  And apply the attached patch.
 
  I'm not linking cinelerra with libv4l1, so you should LD_PRELOAD it in
  order to use V4L in kernel = 2.6.38.
 
  If you're using an older kernel, V4L support should keep working as
  before.
 
  Best regards,
  Rafael Diniz
 
 
   V4L1 is the deprecated and now removed from kernel programming
  interface
   to access video/image devices.
   BUT the V4L1 interface can be supported via the libv4l version 0.8.3
   onwards, as it that can do this conversion between the old API for the
  new
   (V4L2) API.
   I think that we should link cinelerra against libv4l1 if libv4l is
   present, otherwise, do not compile V4L support.
  
   Have you tried swaping linux/videodev.h by libv4l1-videodev.h?
  
   ; )
  
  
   Best regards,
   Rafael Diniz
  
  
   By V4L do you mean the possibility to record from /dev/video_n ?
   In my case that would be a disaster I am using it to scan film frames
   from
   a 1394 camera.
  
   Cheers
   Edouard
  
  
  
  
   --- On Sat, 28/5/11, Simeon Völkel simeon.voel...@sfz-bw.de wrote:
  
   From: Simeon Völkel simeon.voel...@sfz-bw.de
   Subject: [CinCV] Cinelerra on =2.6.38 (patch removing buzz and v4l1
   support)
   To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
   Date: Saturday, 28, May, 2011, 5:30 AM
  
   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
   Hash: SHA1
  
   Hello,
  
   today i updated my kernel to 2.6.39 and was able to compile cinelerra
   after
   applying Nicola's patch from bugs.cinelerra.org to j6t's repo.
  
   In my opinion we should support recent kernels rather soon.
  
   So i wonder whether we have to keep v4l1 and buzz supported or
  whether
   removing support therefore (what Nicola's patch does) is fine, too.
  
   Personally speaking i would vote for the second choice as we have
   extremely
   limited resources for maintenance.
   However, if (and only if) this hardware should be still in use by
   Cinelerra
   users (please speak up if that's the case for you!) we should
  consider
   adding an option to configure.
  
   Regardless wheter we want to make support optional or remove it
   completely,
   i suggest to release a new version of cinelerra (2.1.6?) supporting
   linux
   kernels =2.6.39 as soon as possible.
  
   What is you opinion on that?
  
   Regards,
   Simeon
  
  
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[CinCV] Patch for compilation for kernel 2.6.38+ more prominent in the download page of the website?

2011-05-22 Thread Nicola Ferralis

All, I wonder if a little guide on how to apply the patch should be 
listed more prominently in the download page of the cinelerra-CV 
website. Right now there is no guide, and the patch is buried within the
 bug tracker. the guide could be based on the little info in my previous
 email (see below).



Otherwise we will get a lot of requests for help through the listserve, 
for something that should be more clearly explained in the 
download/support page.



Nicola 



From: feran...@hotmail.com
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: RE: [CinCV] vdevicebuz.C:48:28: fatal error: linux/videodev.h: No  
such file or directory
Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 08:40:00 -0700








Are you sure you applied the patch correctly?

1. First this is the correct patch to use:

http://bugs.cinelerra.org/raw-attachment/ticket/949/remove-support-v4l-buzz-3.diff

2. Download and unzip the source code you get from git.

3. Assuming the uncompressed folder cinelerra and the patch are in the same 
folder, you can apply the patch from this terminal:

patch -p0 -i remove-support-v4l-buzz-3.diff

4. You can now proceed with compilation.

P.S. if you are using ubuntu natty (11.04) (as I guess from your name) you can 
get precompiled binaries from:

https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa

 




 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 From: eric.ba...@ymail.com
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] vdevicebuz.C:48:28: fatal error: linux/videodev.h: No  
 such file or directory
 Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 21:41:46 +
 
 
 I dropped the patch file into the cinelerra dir. What do i need to do with it
 now? I still get the same error while trying to compile.
 
 
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RE: [CinCV] Patch for compilation for kernel 2.6.38+ more prominent in the download page of the website?

2011-05-22 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Thanks, Raffaella!

Ciao,
Nicola

 



 From: raffaella.tranie...@g-raffa.eu
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Patch for compilation for kernel 2.6.38+ more prominent 
 in the download page of the website?
 Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 17:51:14 +0200
 
 Ciao Nicola!
 
 On 05/22/2011 05:46 PM, Nicola Ferralis wrote:
  I wonder if a little guide on how to apply the patch should be
  listed more prominently in the download page of the cinelerra-CV
  website.
 
 Yes, it should.
 I can take care of that in a couple of days.
 
 Ciao!
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RE: [CinCV] Newbie Questions

2011-05-10 Thread Nicola Ferralis

 From: wmstr...@yahoo.com
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: [CinCV] Newbie Questions
 Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 12:22:03 -0700
 
 I am trying to get started (again) with Cinelerra.  I am confused about 
 several things, (even though I have tried to find the answers in the 
 tutorials and documentation).
 
 First, the version I have installed is 1:2.1.5-0.16~ppa1~natty2 (cinelerra), 
 the one that I think is in the repository. I guess that is version 
 2.1.5-0.16. Is this the proper one to use?

Well, that is the most recent one in the PPA repository. 

 CRASH
 
 I find that Cinelerra crashes fairly often. This seems to happen just after 
 rendering is complete (not repeatable), but in other places as well.

You will need to provide either a test case, a file or a detailed set of steps 
to reproduce. Otherwise, there is not much that can we do. 
Coincidentally, have you tried to compile Cinelerra from source and see if you 
still have these crashes? Just asking, in case there are problems with the PPA, 
which I maintain, or it is something intrinsic with Cinelerra.
  

RE: [CinCV] Newbie Questions

2011-05-10 Thread Nicola Ferralis

 From: wmstr...@yahoo.com
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: [CinCV] Newbie Questions
 Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 12:22:03 -0700
 
 I am trying to get started (again) with Cinelerra.  I am confused about 
 several things, (even though I have tried to find the answers in the 
 tutorials and documentation).
 
 First, the version I have installed is 1:2.1.5-0.16~ppa1~natty2 (cinelerra), 
 the one that I think is in the repository. I guess that is version 
 2.1.5-0.16. Is this the proper one to use?

Well, that is the most recent one in the PPA repository. 

 CRASH
 
 I find that Cinelerra crashes fairly often. This seems to happen just after 
 rendering is complete (not repeatable), but in other places as well.

You will need to provide either a test case, a file or a detailed set of steps 
to reproduce. Otherwise, there is not much that can we do. 
Coincidentally, have you tried to compile Cinelerra from source and see if you 
still have these crashes? Just asking, in case there are problems with the PPA, 
which I maintain, or it is something intrinsic with Cinelerra.
  

RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra

2011-05-08 Thread Nicola Ferralis

I assume you are using cinelerra-ppa. To make sure it works, here's the steps:

1. Open Synaptic package manager
2. Select menu Settings - repositories
3. Make sure you have both the universe andmultiverse in the ubuntu 
software tab
4. Select the other software tab.
5. Click add and type:
ppa:cinelerra-ppa/ppa
6. Close panel; from the main window, click reload.
7. Now you should be able to search for Cinelerra.

This should work.




 From: ysuran.a...@gmail.com
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: [CinCV] Cinelerra
 Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 21:18:35 +0100
 
 Hi,
 I'm trying to install Cinelerra on Ubuntu 11.04 but it doesn't work. 
 I've just added repository and it doesn't find any package for 
 installing Cinelerra.
 How can I fix this?
 
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[CinCV] Cinelerra for Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty) available in Cinelerra-ppa

2011-05-04 Thread Nicola Ferralis


I just uploaded a version of Cinelerra for Ubuntu Natty (11.04) in 
cinelerra-ppa:

https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa/+packages

I
 am not sure how people manage to compile it with the previous patch of 
mine since it didn't work for me... Anyway, I used a new working patch 
that I just uploaded in the bug tracker:

http://bugs.cinelerra.org/ticket/949#comment:6

http://bugs.cinelerra.org/raw-attachment/ticket/949/remove-support-v4l-buzz-3.diff

Please let me know of any issues.

Nicola


 

  

RE: [CinCV] vdevicebuz.C:48:28: fatal error: linux/videodev.h: No such file or directory

2011-05-02 Thread Nicola Ferralis
/libtiff.so -lz /usr/lib/libesd.so /usr/lib/libasound.so 
/usr/lib/libavc1394.so /usr/lib/librom1394.so -liec61883 /usr/lib/libraw1394.so 
/usr/lib/libdv.so -luuid /usr/lib/libmjpegutils.so -lm -ldl -lpthread -pthread
g++: unrecognized option '-without-pic'
/usr/bin/ld: filempeg.o: undefined reference to symbol 
'lame_encode_buffer_float'
/usr/bin/ld: note: 'lame_encode_buffer_float' is defined in DSO 
/usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0 so try adding it to the linker command line
/usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[4]: *** [cinelerra] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/build/buildd/cinelerra-2.1.5/cinelerra'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/build/buildd/cinelerra-2.1.5/cinelerra'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/build/buildd/cinelerra-2.1.5'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/build/buildd/cinelerra-2.1.5'
make: *** [build-stamp] Error 2
dpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules build gave error exit status 2

 



From: beccato...@hotmail.com
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: Re: [CinCV] vdevicebuz.C:48:28: fatal error: linux/videodev.h: No  
such file or directory
Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 09:42:36 +











Hi guys - just to report my experience - 

I used the patch in the linked bug report and managed to compile Cinelerra 
2.1.5 with no issues on Ubuntu 11.04, in a virtual box on Ubuntu 10.04.  I 
haven't tried extensively editing anything with it but I got no compilation 
errors and it starts up fine.  

I know that originally Nicola Ferralis was still having some issues even with 
these patches applied, though I can't remember what they were precisely.  But I 
figured it'd be useful to report that her patch is working for me.  I see that 
Einar reported this already from the IRC log but thought it would be good to 
throw this email out with the rest of the details for record keeping.  

If anyone has any questions about anything please let me know, but I'm really 
not very familiar with even compiling things let alone patching (used the 
instructions from raffa's website to compile as I have done for the past year 
or so, and this is the first patch I've ever applied, actually!) so you may 
have to ask in small, simple word.  ;)  

Thanks for all the work on Cinelerra, guys!  Now I can consider upgrading to 
11.04.  :)




  

RE: [CinCV] vdevicebuz.C:48:28: fatal error: linux/videodev.h: No such file or directory

2011-05-01 Thread Nicola Ferralis

That only solves part of the problem. There are other compilation issues in 
Cinelerra... Is there anybody that was actually successful in compiling 
Cinelerra with a kernel  = 2.6.38?

 



 Subject: Re: [CinCV] vdevicebuz.C:48:28: fatal error: linux/videodev.h: No 
 such file or directory
 From: eina...@smail.ee
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 17:03:55 +0300
 
 Hi.
 
 Support for v4l1 has been removed from latest kernels.
 
 Try the last patch from http://bugs.cinelerra.org/ticket/949
 
 Einar
 
 On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Terrence Brannon scheme...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
  I am running Ubuntu 11 as a 32-bit guest virtual machine of Windows 7 using
  VMWare workstation.
 
  Attempting to retrieve the cinelerra package failed, so I decided to 
  compile it.
  Another message will detail that failure.
 
  So anyway, after downloading cinelerra via git and running:
  ./autogen.sh  ./configure --with-buildinfo=git/recompile --enable-mmx
  --without-pic  make
 
  I got the following error:
 
  if g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I../guicast -I../quicktime 
  -I../libmpeg3
  -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 
  -DHAVE_FIREWIRE
 -DHAVE_ESOUND  -DHAVE_ALSA -DHAVE_OSS   -I/usr/include/mjpegtools
  -I/usr/include/mjpegtools/mpeg2enc -I/usr/include/mjpegtools/mplex   
  -pthread
  -I/usr/include/OpenEXR-I../quicktime/ffmpeg
  -DPLUGIN_DIR=\/usr/local/lib/cinelerra\ -g -O2 -MT vdevicebuz.o -MD -MP 
  -MF
  .deps/vdevicebuz.Tpo -c -o vdevicebuz.o vdevicebuz.C; \
 then mv -f .deps/vdevicebuz.Tpo .deps/vdevicebuz.Po; else rm -f
  .deps/vdevicebuz.Tpo; exit 1; fi
  vdevicebuz.C:48:28: fatal error: linux/videodev.h: No such file or directory
  compilation terminated.
 
 
  A bit of googling indicates that ubuntu 11 needs videodev2.h not videodev.h 
  -
  http://forum.openframeworks.cc/index.php?topic=5882.0
 
  I havent tried any alterations to the source code and wanted to wait and get
  advice before doing so.
 
 
 
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[CinCV] RE: [CinCV] Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra på Ubuntu 10.10?

2011-03-13 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Packages for Maverick (10.10) have been made available through Launchpad for a 
while. 

https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa

Sure, it's not official (neither the other suggested was anyway), but that is 
the only one that reliably works, at least for now.

 Nicola



 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 CC: blackoutw...@gmail.com
 From: her...@skolelinux.no
 Subject: [CinCV] Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra på Ubuntu 10.10?
 Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:52:05 +0100
 
 On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:36:17 +0100, Chris Nørve blackoutw...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
  Hei. Jeg lurte på om dere kunne lage en repository eller .deb pakke fil for
  ubuntu 10.10?
 
 Hi.  I wondered if you could make a repository or .deb package file for
 Ubuntu 10.10?
 
  Jeg så at det var en for 8.04 men den funket ikke for meg.
 
 I saw that there was one for 8.04 but that didn't work for me.
 
  Det er dessuten litt trøyt at dere har repos for så gamle versjoner fremfor
  de nye.
 
 Besides, it's quite beyond reasonable that you have repositories
 for so old versions, rather than the new ones.
 
  Jeg prøvde også repoen for Debian men den funka heller ikke.
  Please fiks dette.
 
 I also tried the repo for Debian, but that did not work either.
 Please fix this.
 
 
 We're working on it, Chris.  If it's not straightened out in a week,
 you may nag again! :-)
 
 By the way, you wrote to a mailing list, and most of the subscribers
 are not Scandinavian.  So please write in English.
 
 -- 
 Herman Robak
 
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RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra roadmap

2011-02-21 Thread Nicola Ferralis


Thanks, Herman.

I'd like to suggest an alternative, more dynamic way of versioning Cinelerra. 
Instead of having patches committed in trunk and at some point (which is not 
described anywhere) do a 2.1.x release, what about using the Google 
Chrome/Chromium approach to have a fast pace versioning? Basically every time a 
patch is applied, there would be a version bump (maybe not immediate, but after 
some time of testing). This would help the user to understand what they are 
getting and in principle (by providing a clear way to get older versions) to 
fall back to previous ones. This method would also answer to my original 
question regarding the roadmap. Hence, this approach wouldn't need any short 
term roadmap, but instead new 2.1.x versions would go as stability releases.

BTW, if I may, I'd like to suggest that links in the download page of the 
official cinelerra-CV website to the source of stable releases (2.1.5, now) to 
be separate from git, as it is now on the download page of Cinelerra-CV. This 
is *highly* confusing, since version 2.1.5 in git that I donwloaded 2 months 
ago is different than the same version 2.1.5 that I donwloaded today: being 
git, people have committed patches. So, like in most open-source projects, 
there should be links to stable releases (possibly using the approach above), 
and for the bravest, links to git (named, development branch, or nightly, 
whatever).

Otherwise, the current situation is pretty confusing to the end user and for 
packagers like me.

Nicola
 



 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra roadmap
 From: her...@skolelinux.no
 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:27:25 +0100
 
 On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 06:03:46 +0100, Nicola Ferralis feran...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
 
  In the past few weeks, there has been a very interesting discussion in this 
  forum about the long term future of Cinelerra. This discussion made me 
  wonder if a short-term roadmap of Cinelerra really exists. In particular I 
  wonder if there is any set decision for a version 2.1.7 (and 2.1.8, 2.2, 
  etc)?
 
 No, I don't think there is any off-list coordinated planning going on
 to write a roadmap for the next release(s).  Not yet, anyway.
 
  I'd like to hear some thoughts about this. As the maintainer of the 
  Cinelerra-ppa for Ubuntu, I wonder if instead of syncing only official 
  releases, I should instead sync with git every time a commit is pushed. In 
  this latter case, I would think a bump in version should be adopted.
 
 Good points for the agenda of the not-yet-scheduled developer meeting. :-)
 
 It's been too long since I wrote what needs doing, without any progress
 report or any meetings or published TODOs.  Readers are getting impatient.
 Not good.
 
 Why?  Well, the webmistress got very busy with other film/video related
 stuff, and I got occupied learning Cinelerra plugin programming, and
 other unrelated stuff.  Besides, it's winter up here.  So there has been
 too little worth reporting, but we're not dead yet. ;-)
 
 Anyhow, I don't feel _quite_ ready to lead a long march to a Next Gen
 Cinelerra, yet.  And I do think some firm and competent leadership would
 be a Good Thing.  I am ready to start scrathing my own itches, and fix
 some other users' woes if they happen to be related to mine, as a start,
 using the cinelerra.org DocuWiki as a kind of blog to tell about it.
 
 It's too early to say which wishes any of the coding contributors will
 be able or willing to fulfill.  I only promise that there will be _some_
 activity within the next few days.  Best wishes!
 
 -- 
 Herman Robak
 
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RE: [CinCV] Videodev.h library non longer supported on kernel 2.6.38 (Cinelerra on Ubuntu 11.04 won't compile)

2011-02-18 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Thanks, Einar. I think the more recent issues with libmp3lame are most likely 
related to Ubuntu 11.04, and not at all related to the lack of support of v4l1 
in kernel.
As I said previously, I will wait to see if 11.04 stabilises and retry the 
compilation process.

Nicola

 



 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Videodev.h library non longer supported on kernel 2.6.38 
 (Cinelerra on Ubuntu 11.04 won't compile)
 From: eina...@smail.ee
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:17:19 +0200
 
 On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Nicola Ferralis feran...@hotmail.com wrote:
  The same error applies to i386. For compilation, I use launchpad automatic
  system, which basically compiles and loads the required libraries from
  scratch. I never had any issue with compilation in previous version of
  Ubuntu. Since Natty (11.04) is still under development, I'll give it some
  time to stabilise and retry again.
 
  Nicola
 
 
 I applyed your patch and compiled Cinelerra successfully. My current
 system is Ubuntu 9.04. So the patch seems ok.
 
 Einar
 
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RE: [CinCV] Videodev.h library non longer supported on kernel 2.6.38 (Cinelerra on Ubuntu 11.04 won't compile)

2011-02-17 Thread Nicola Ferralis
 /usr/lib/libmjpegutils.so -lm -ldl -lpthread -pthread
/usr/bin/ld: filempeg.o: undefined reference to symbol 
'lame_encode_buffer_float'
/usr/bin/ld: note: 'lame_encode_buffer_float' is defined in DSO 
/usr/lib64/libmp3lame.so.0 so try adding it to the linker command line
/usr/lib64/libmp3lame.so.0: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[4]: *** [cinelerra] Error 1

 



 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Videodev.h library non longer supported on kernel 2.6.38 
 (Cinelerra on Ubuntu 11.04 won't compile)
 From: eina...@smail.ee
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:16:37 +0200
 
 Seems that v4l1 is comlpletely removed from kernel. Try to remove the
 rest of cinelerra that depends on it. I think it's rarely used.
 
 Einar
 
 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Nicola Ferralis feran...@hotmail.com wrote:
  There seems to be another compilation problem, also due to videodev.h being
  no longer supported on 2.6.38. vdevice4l.h depends on it and with won't
  compile without it...
 
  I successfully removed iOmega Buzz support from Cinelerra (see attached
  patch, also in the bug report). However there seems to be another
  compilation problem, also due to videodev.h being no longer supported on
  2.6.38. vdevice4l.h depends on it and with won't compile without it...
  Nicola
 
 
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [CinCV] Videodev.h library non longer supported on kernel
  2.6.38 (Cinelerra on Ubuntu 11.04 won't compile)
  From: eina...@smail.ee
  To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
  Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:27:37 +0200
 
  On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:51 AM, Ichthyostega p...@ichthyostega.de wrote:
   Nicola Ferralis schrieb:
   vdevicebuz.C: In constructor
   'VDeviceBUZInput::VDeviceBUZInput(VDeviceBUZ*)':
  
   isn't that the support for the IOmega Buzz drive, which was somewhat
   hacked
   in some time ago? I might be wrong but I somehow recall that this
   support
   already caused some problems, because it was not done in a canonical
   fashion,
   compared to other interfaces
  
   Cheers
   Hermann
 
  It seems to be something like this
  http://www.iomega.com/support/documents/80059.html
  http://www.trix.com/buz/faq.html#faq98
 
  I think that support to such device can be removed.
 
  My opinion is that NLE must not support any particular capture device.
  There are a lot of better and maintained capture programs.
 
  Einar
 
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RE: [CinCV] Videodev.h library non longer supported on kernel 2.6.38 (Cinelerra on Ubuntu 11.04 won't compile)

2011-02-16 Thread Nicola Ferralis

There seems to be another compilation problem, also due to videodev.h being no 
longer supported on 2.6.38. vdevice4l.h depends on it and with won't compile 
without it...

I successfully removed iOmega Buzz support from Cinelerra (see attached patch, 
also in the bug report). However there seems to be another compilation problem, 
also due to videodev.h being no longer 
supported on 2.6.38. vdevice4l.h depends on it and with won't compile 
without it... Nicola





 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Videodev.h library non longer supported on kernel 2.6.38 
 (Cinelerra on Ubuntu 11.04 won't compile)
 From: eina...@smail.ee
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:27:37 +0200
 
 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:51 AM, Ichthyostega p...@ichthyostega.de wrote:
  Nicola Ferralis schrieb:
  vdevicebuz.C: In constructor 
  'VDeviceBUZInput::VDeviceBUZInput(VDeviceBUZ*)':
 
  isn't that the support for the IOmega Buzz drive, which was somewhat hacked
  in some time ago? I might be wrong but I somehow recall that this support
  already caused some problems, because it was not done in a canonical 
  fashion,
  compared to other interfaces
 
  Cheers
  Hermann
 
 It seems to be something like this
 http://www.iomega.com/support/documents/80059.html
 http://www.trix.com/buz/faq.html#faq98
 
 I think that support to such device can be removed.
 
 My opinion is that NLE must not support any particular capture device.
 There are a lot of better and maintained capture programs.
 
 Einar
 
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  diff -Nru cinelerra.orig//cinelerra/channelpicker.C cinelerra/cinelerra/channelpicker.C
--- cinelerra.orig//cinelerra/channelpicker.C	2010-11-24 18:18:03.0 -0500
+++ cinelerra/cinelerra/channelpicker.C	2011-02-16 14:52:26.896754000 -0500
@@ -39,7 +39,7 @@
 #include recordgui.h
 #include recordmonitor.h
 #include theme.h
-#include vdevicebuz.h
+//#include vdevicebuz.h
 #include vdeviceprefs.h
 #include videodevice.h
 
@@ -280,7 +280,7 @@
 //	printf(PrefsChannelPicker::PrefsChannelPicker 1\n);
 	this-mwindow = mwindow;
 	this-prefs = prefs;
-	VDeviceBUZ::get_inputs(input_sources);
+//	VDeviceBUZ::get_inputs(input_sources);
 }
 
 PrefsChannelPicker::~PrefsChannelPicker()
diff -Nru cinelerra.orig//cinelerra/Makefile.am cinelerra/cinelerra/Makefile.am
--- cinelerra.orig//cinelerra/Makefile.am	2010-11-24 18:18:03.0 -0500
+++ cinelerra/cinelerra/Makefile.am	2011-02-16 14:50:46.624754002 -0500
@@ -305,7 +305,6 @@
 		vattachmentpoint.C \
 		vautomation.C \
 		vdevicebase.C \
-		vdevicebuz.C \
 		vdevicedvb.C \
 		vdeviceprefs.C \
 		vdevicev4l.C \
diff -Nru cinelerra.orig//cinelerra/reversemake cinelerra/cinelerra/reversemake
--- cinelerra.orig//cinelerra/reversemake	2010-11-24 18:18:03.0 -0500
+++ cinelerra/cinelerra/reversemake	2011-02-16 14:50:46.632754001 -0500
@@ -35,7 +35,6 @@
 make $OBJDIR/vdevicev4l.o
 make $OBJDIR/vdeviceprefs.o
 make $OBJDIR/vdevicelml.o
-make $OBJDIR/vdevicebuz.o
 make $OBJDIR/vdevicebase.o
 make $OBJDIR/vdevice1394.o
 make $OBJDIR/vautomation.o
diff -Nru cinelerra.orig//cinelerra/vdevicebuz.C cinelerra/cinelerra/vdevicebuz.C
--- cinelerra.orig//cinelerra/vdevicebuz.C	2010-11-24 18:18:03.0 -0500
+++ cinelerra/cinelerra/vdevicebuz.C	1969-12-31 19:00:00.0 -0500
@@ -1,796 +0,0 @@
-
-/*
- * CINELERRA
- * Copyright (C) 2008 Adam Williams broadcast at earthling dot net
- * 
- * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
- * it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
- * the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or
- * (at your option) any later version.
- * 
- * This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
- * but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
- * MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
- * GNU General Public License for more details.
- * 
- * You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
- * along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
- * Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA  02111-1307  USA
- * 
- */
-
-// ALPHA C++ can't compile 64 bit headers
-#undef _LARGEFILE_SOURCE
-#undef _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE
-#undef _FILE_OFFSET_BITS
-
-#include assets.h
-#include bcsignals.h
-#include channel.h
-#include chantables.h
-#include condition.h
-#include file.inc
-#include mutex.h
-#include picture.h
-#include playbackconfig.h
-#include preferences.h
-#include recordconfig.h
-#include strategies.inc
-#include vdevicebuz.h
-#include vframe.h
-#include videoconfig.h
-#include videodevice.h
-
-#include errno.h
-#include stdint.h
-#include linux/kernel.h
-//#include linux/videodev2.h
-#include linux/videodev.h
-#include fcntl.h
-#include sys/ioctl.h
-#include sys/mman.h

RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra roadmap

2011-02-15 Thread Nicola Ferralis

To add a piece of information, the bug tracker still shows open bugs marked for 
release for cinelerra 1.0. Does this really means that those bug were never 
fixed? How updated is the bug tracking system?

Not to mention that spam is permeating the bug tracking system (just check the 
tickets submitted in the last couple of days).

Nicola

 



From: feran...@hotmail.com
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: [CinCV] Cinelerra roadmap
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:03:46 -0800








Hi,

In the past few weeks, there has been a very interesting discussion in this 
forum about the long term future of Cinelerra. This discussion made me wonder 
if a short-term roadmap of Cinelerra really exists. In particular I wonder if 
there is any set decision for a version 2.1.7 (and 2.1.8, 2.2, etc)? More in 
general, what is the main feature/timeframe/else that usually is set for a new 
stability release? Is the release process similar to what Google deploys for 
Chrome (release often minor updates)?

I'd like to hear some thoughts about this. As the maintainer of the 
Cinelerra-ppa for Ubuntu, I wonder if instead of syncing only official 
releases, I should instead sync with git every time a commit is pushed. In this 
latter case, I would think a bump in version should be adopted. 

Thanks,
Nicola  
  

[CinCV] Videodev.h library non longer supported on kernel 2.6.38 (Cinelerra on Ubuntu 11.04 won't compile)

2011-02-15 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Hi,

I am working on making builds available on the next version of Ubuntu (11.04 
Natty). As is, cinelerra cannot compile for any architecture because of this 
error:
vdevicebuz.C:48:28: fatal error: linux/videodev.h: No such file or directory
compilation terminated.
The reason for it is that linux/videodev.h has been removed from kernel 2.3.38. 
I am currently trying to see if compilation using the still supported 
linux/videodev2.h works. If it does, packages for Ubuntu will soon appear in 
cinelerra-ppa, otherwise cinelerra won't be available for Natty (11.04) until 
the issue is fixed upstream.

In any case, I wanted to make sure Cinelerra developers are aware of this issue.

Regards,
Nicola
  

RE: [CinCV] Videodev.h library non longer supported on kernel 2.6.38 (Cinelerra on Ubuntu 11.04 won't compile)

2011-02-15 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Even with this change, Cinelerra won't compile. See log below. therefore, 
Cinelerra is broken on linux systems using kernels 2.6.38 (like Ubuntu 11.04). 
For what is worth, I filed a new bug:

http://bugs.cinelerra.org/ticket/949

Nicola

vdevicebuz.C: In constructor 'VDeviceBUZInput::VDeviceBUZInput(VDeviceBUZ*)':
vdevicebuz.C:69:63: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to 
'char*'
vdevicebuz.C:70:56: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to 
'char*'
vdevicebuz.C: In member function 'virtual void VDeviceBUZInput::run()':
vdevicebuz.C:118:31: error: 'BASE_VIDIOCPRIVATE' was not declared in this scope
vdevicebuz.C:131:44: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to 
'char*'
vdevicebuz.C: In member function 'void VDeviceBUZInput::get_buffer(char**, 
int*)':
vdevicebuz.C:159:82: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to 
'char*'
vdevicebuz.C:170:50: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to 
'char*'
vdevicebuz.C: In member function 'void VDeviceBUZInput::put_buffer()':
vdevicebuz.C:184:49: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to 
'char*'
vdevicebuz.C: In constructor 'VDeviceBUZ::VDeviceBUZ(VideoDevice*)':
vdevicebuz.C:221:49: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to 
'char*'
vdevicebuz.C: In member function 'virtual int 
VDeviceBUZ::set_channel(Channel*)':
vdevicebuz.C:370:44: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to 
'char*'
vdevicebuz.C: In member function 'virtual int 
VDeviceBUZ::set_picture(PictureConfig*)':
vdevicebuz.C:403:45: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to 
'char*'
vdevicebuz.C: In member function 'int VDeviceBUZ::get_norm(int)':
vdevicebuz.C:451:30: error: 'VIDEO_MODE_NTSC' was not declared in this scope
vdevicebuz.C:452:30: error: 'VIDEO_MODE_PAL' was not declared in this scope
vdevicebuz.C:453:30: error: 'VIDEO_MODE_SECAM' was not declared in this scope
vdevicebuz.C: In member function 'virtual int VDeviceBUZ::read_buffer(VFrame*)':
vdevicebuz.C:459:44: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to 
'char*'
vdevicebuz.C: In member function 'int VDeviceBUZ::open_input_core(Channel*)':
vdevicebuz.C:524:25: error: aggregate 
'VDeviceBUZ::open_input_core(Channel*)::video_channel vch' has incomplete type 
and cannot be defined
vdevicebuz.C:529:24: error: 'VIDIOCSCHAN' was not declared in this scope
vdevicebuz.C:541:22: error: 'BASE_VIDIOCPRIVATE' was not declared in this scope
vdevicebuz.C:560:22: error: 'BASE_VIDIOCPRIVATE' was not declared in this scope
vdevicebuz.C:579:22: error: 'BASE_VIDIOCPRIVATE' was not declared in this scope
vdevicebuz.C:593:23: error: aggregate 
'VDeviceBUZ::open_input_core(Channel*)::video_picture picture_params' has 
incomplete type and cannot be defined
vdevicebuz.C:595:22: error: 'VIDIOCGPICT' was not declared in this scope
vdevicebuz.C:603:22: error: 'VIDIOCSPICT' was not declared in this scope
vdevicebuz.C:605:22: error: 'VIDIOCGPICT' was not declared in this scope
vdevicebuz.C:614:29: error: 'BASE_VIDIOCPRIVATE' was not declared in this scope
vdevicebuz.C: In member function 'int VDeviceBUZ::open_output_core(Channel*)':
vdevicebuz.C:641:24: error: aggregate 
'VDeviceBUZ::open_output_core(Channel*)::video_channel vch' has incomplete type 
and cannot be defined
vdevicebuz.C:645:23: error: 'VIDIOCSCHAN' was not declared in this scope
vdevicebuz.C:651:22: error: 'BASE_VIDIOCPRIVATE' was not declared in this scope
vdevicebuz.C:661:22: error: 'BASE_VIDIOCPRIVATE' was not declared in this scope
vdevicebuz.C:675:22: error: 'BASE_VIDIOCPRIVATE' was not declared in this scope
vdevicebuz.C: In member function 'virtual int VDeviceBUZ::write_buffer(VFrame*, 
EDL*)':
vdevicebuz.C:686:45: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to 
'char*'
vdevicebuz.C:742:22: error: 'BASE_VIDIOCPRIVATE' was not declared in this scope
make[4]: *** [vdevicebuz.o] Error 1


 



From: feran...@hotmail.com
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: [CinCV] Videodev.h library non longer supported on kernel 2.6.38 
(Cinelerra on Ubuntu 11.04 won't compile)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:56:53 -0800








Hi,

I am working on making builds available on the next version of Ubuntu (11.04 
Natty). As is, cinelerra cannot compile for any architecture because of this 
error:
vdevicebuz.C:48:28: fatal error: linux/videodev.h: No such file or directory
compilation terminated.
The reason for it is that linux/videodev.h has been removed from kernel 2.3.38. 
I am currently trying to see if compilation using the still supported 
linux/videodev2.h works. If it does, packages for Ubuntu will soon appear in 
cinelerra-ppa, otherwise cinelerra won't be available for Natty (11.04) until 
the issue is fixed upstream.

In any case, I wanted to make sure Cinelerra developers are aware of this issue.

Regards,
Nicola
  

RE: [CinCV] can not download or get cinelerra

2011-02-14 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Gerrit,

I am not sure you if you are referring to the cinelerra-ppa. If so, you should 
NOT install install cinelerra by download the packages from the cinelerra-ppa 
webpage. You instead should proceed and install the cinelerra package through 
synaptic (or apt-get). This way you are guaranteed to have a properly 
functioning cinelerra, and all future updates will be delivered automatically 
through your update manager.

To do so

1. open synaptic package manager
2.  select the menu settings-repositories
3.  select the other software tab
4. push the add... button
5. type: 

ppa:cinelerra-ppa/ppa

6. Click add source. Reload the archives. 
7. In synaptic, search for cinelerra, select for installation and install.
8. Enjoy.

Please let me know if you have any other question.

Regards,
Nicola



Subject: Re: [CinCV] can not download or get cinelerra
From: ger...@gyas.nl
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 00:37:37 +0100


Hallo Haldun

  

  Thank you for the adresses. I have cinelerra downloaded now. There
  are another 5 packages on the repo. Which ones are
  necessary/recommended and which ones can I neglect?


  There is only one for 10,04 the ppa one. for V 2,1,5 and on
megaupload 4−2 version WORK FOR 10,04 ALSO.

The other 5 packages look like plugins. Maybe this explains my former question. 
Yet I have to find my way in Cinelerra. I want to use it for motion analysis in 
sports. So I want to make a 25 fps DV file to 50 fps by interpolating and 
deshake it with the motion track/stabilizer at highest possible quality for 
frame by frame analyzing the motion of the athlete. As you had some nice 
suggestions in the past I directed the question to you. But of course 
everyone's good suggestions are welcome.

Have you ever seen Gamebreaker on Apple? It is an application of some 2000 
euro's. I believe Cinelerra can do something like that too.

Best regards, Gerrit

  

[CinCV] Cinelerra roadmap

2011-02-14 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Hi,

In the past few weeks, there has been a very interesting discussion in this 
forum about the long term future of Cinelerra. This discussion made me wonder 
if a short-term roadmap of Cinelerra really exists. In particular I wonder if 
there is any set decision for a version 2.1.7 (and 2.1.8, 2.2, etc)? More in 
general, what is the main feature/timeframe/else that usually is set for a new 
stability release? Is the release process similar to what Google deploys for 
Chrome (release often minor updates)?

I'd like to hear some thoughts about this. As the maintainer of the 
Cinelerra-ppa for Ubuntu, I wonder if instead of syncing only official 
releases, I should instead sync with git every time a commit is pushed. In this 
latter case, I would think a bump in version should be adopted. 

Thanks,
Nicola  
  

RE: [CinCV] hardware

2011-01-30 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Well, I am glad it works for you. My point was simply that since Cinelerra uses 
its own libraries, it doesn't matter what's available on the actual distro, 
cinelerra should perform just as well. In other words, I wouldn't recommend an 
upgrade *just* for cinelerra, mostly if the user (like many) is happy with 
hardy. 

In any case, the ppa provides (and will continue to provide) builds for all 
releases currently supported ;-) 

It's all about choice. 

Ciao,
Nicola 




 From: raffaella.tranie...@g-raffa.eu
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] hardware
 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 23:51:57 +0100
 
 Hi Nicola!
 
  Why not using Hardy? It's a LTS release and it is very stable, and it is
  not prehistoric.
 
 My opinion is based on my experience. I do workshops on creative works 
 with Free Software and I tested different labs with different Ubuntus.
 In the past two years video editing (and graphics) applications had such 
 a fast development that Hardy is indeed already too old (e.g. you can't 
 have the latest Kdenlive).
 I kept having so many issues (e.g. freezing interfaces, blank screens, 
 old or missing applications...) that I promised myself not to work or 
 teach on Hardy anymore.
 
 Note also that Hardy will be supported just for the next 3 months and 
 the new LTS release is just a mouse click away.
 
 That's why I don't recommend Hardy to people looking for a good distro 
 for video-editing.
 
 Ciao!
 Raffaella
 
 
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RE: [CinCV] cinelerra in spanish

2011-01-16 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Your English is just fine!!! 

Let me review what I did. My initial installation (Ubuntu 10.10) was with en_US 
locale. I added Spanish as an additional language (from System - 
Administration - Language Support). I applied it system-wise. Also, I made 
sure my Language for menus and windows had Spanish as the first Entry. After 
a quick reboot, My system was running in Spanish. I reinstalled cinelerra, and 
it was translated in Spanish.

Running locale -a, shows en_US and es_ES with UTF-8. 

Reverting the language to English (in the Language for menus and windows), 
brought back English as the default language for Cinelerra).

One question: after you switched to UTF-8, did you use the stable version of 
cinelerra-ppa (2.1.6-0.14) or the unstable one (2.1.6-0.14.2)? I'd recommend 
using the stable version.

I hope it helps.

Nicola 



 



Subject: Re: [CinCV] cinelerra in spanish
From: yosep...@gmail.com
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 22:32:15 +0100

I have installed UTF-8, no ISO, and the cinelerra does not translate.


My english is very bad, You might not understand.




2011/1/16 Nicola Ferralis feran...@hotmail.com






I installed the es_ES locales for testing on my machine. Unfortunately, I
 don't have ISO, but Unicode UTF-8. When switching between en and es, 
translation works just fine (using stable cinelerra ppa). I'd recommend 
trying to use Unicode UTF-8, rather than ISO.

 




From: feran...@hotmail.com
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no

Subject: RE: [CinCV] cinelerra in spanish
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:12:52 -0800








Yosepkey,

Thanks for the suggestion. I just prepared an 
experimental build following your suggestion. It's not in the main ppa, 
but in a new experimental one designed only for testing:

https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/cinelerra-exp



Would you please this version (once it's built), and let me know how it goes? 
If all is well I'll push the update in the stable ppa.

Thanks!
Nicola

 




From: yosep...@gmail.com

To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: [CinCV] cinelerra in spanish
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:10:17 +0100

I've seen the last update: 2.1.5-0.14, add ISO-8859-15, very good news.



But in spanish is ISO-8859-1.

Can you put ISO-8859-1 too? 



Thanks, Yosepkey



  

  

RE: [CinCV] cinelerra startup error in Ubuntu 10.10 64bit

2011-01-04 Thread Nicola Ferralis
There seems to be a conflict with another repository. Do you have any other 
repos activated that provide cinelerra-cv? I'd recommend you first disable it, 
uninstall the current version, and use the ppa.

Please let me know if that works for you.

Nicola

From: al...@wanadoo.fr
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: Re: [CinCV] cinelerra startup error in Ubuntu 10.10 64bit
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 10:34:03 +0100



  




  
  
Hello Nicola,



I tried to install cinelerra 2.1.5 from your ppa but I have several
errors occured and installation didn't work. Hereby the errors in
French. I can translate if you need.



Thank you if you can help me. I was a little lazy to use grandma's
way but anyhow here you are :-(



May be I have to move the ancient version first ? they can't be
together ... Errors seems to tell that.



E:
/var/cache/apt/archives/libguicast1_1%3a2.1.5-0.14~ppa1~lucid1_i386.deb:
tentative de remplacement de « /usr/lib/libguicast.so.1.0.0 », qui
appartient aussi au paquet libcinelerra 0

E:
/var/cache/apt/archives/libmpeg3cine_1%3a2.1.5-0.14~ppa1~lucid1_i386.deb:
tentative de remplacement de
« /usr/lib/libavcodec-cinelerra.so.51.57.0 », qui appartient aussi
au paquet libcinelerra 0

E:

/var/cache/apt/archives/libquicktimecine_1%3a2.1.5-0.14~ppa1~lucid1_i386.deb:
tentative de remplacement de
« /usr/lib/libquicktimehv-1.6.0.so.1.0.0 », qui appartient aussi au
paquet libcinelerra 0

E:
/var/cache/apt/archives/cinelerra_1%3a2.1.5-0.14~ppa1~lucid1_i386.deb:
tentative de remplacement de « /usr/bin/mplexlo », qui appartient
aussi au paquet cinelerra-optional 0









Sélection du paquet libguicast1 précédemment désélectionné.

(Lecture de la base de données... 328697 fichiers et répertoires
déjà installés.)

Dépaquetage de libguicast1 (à partir de
.../libguicast1_1%3a2.1.5-0.14~ppa1~lucid1_i386.deb) ...

dpkg : erreur de traitement de
/var/cache/apt/archives/libguicast1_1%3a2.1.5-0.14~ppa1~lucid1_i386.deb
(--unpack) :

 tentative de remplacement de « /usr/lib/libguicast.so.1.0.0 », qui
appartient aussi au paquet libcinelerra
0:2.1.1-git20100325~ppa5~lucid

dpkg-deb: sous-processus coller tué par le signal (Relais brisé
(pipe))

Sélection du paquet libmpeg3cine précédemment désélectionné.

Dépaquetage de libmpeg3cine (à partir de
.../libmpeg3cine_1%3a2.1.5-0.14~ppa1~lucid1_i386.deb) ...

dpkg : erreur de traitement de
/var/cache/apt/archives/libmpeg3cine_1%3a2.1.5-0.14~ppa1~lucid1_i386.deb
(--unpack) :

 tentative de remplacement de
« /usr/lib/libavcodec-cinelerra.so.51.57.0 », qui appartient aussi
au paquet libcinelerra 0:2.1.1-git20100325~ppa5~lucid

dpkg-deb: sous-processus coller tué par le signal (Relais brisé
(pipe))

Sélection du paquet libquicktimecine précédemment désélectionné.

Dépaquetage de libquicktimecine (à partir de
.../libquicktimecine_1%3a2.1.5-0.14~ppa1~lucid1_i386.deb) ...

dpkg : erreur de traitement de
/var/cache/apt/archives/libquicktimecine_1%3a2.1.5-0.14~ppa1~lucid1_i386.deb
(--unpack) :

 tentative de remplacement de
« /usr/lib/libquicktimehv-1.6.0.so.1.0.0 », qui appartient aussi au
paquet libcinelerra 0:2.1.1-git20100325~ppa5~lucid

dpkg-deb: sous-processus coller tué par le signal (Relais brisé
(pipe))

Préparation du remplacement de cinelerra
2.1.1-git20100325~ppa5~lucid (en utilisant
.../cinelerra_1%3a2.1.5-0.14~ppa1~lucid1_i386.deb) ...

Dépaquetage de la mise à jour de cinelerra ...

dpkg : erreur de traitement de
/var/cache/apt/archives/cinelerra_1%3a2.1.5-0.14~ppa1~lucid1_i386.deb
(--unpack) :

 tentative de remplacement de « /usr/bin/mplexlo », qui appartient
aussi au paquet cinelerra-optional 0:2.1.1-git20100325~ppa5~lucid

Pas de rapport Apport écrit car le nombre de rapport maximum
(MaxReports) est atteint

 dpkg-deb: sous-processus coller tué par le signal (Relais brisé
(pipe))

Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour
« python-gmenu »...

Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/desktop.fr_FR.utf8.cache...

Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour
« python-support »...

Des erreurs ont été rencontrées pendant l'exécution :

 /var/cache/apt/archives/libguicast1_1%3a2.1.5-0.14~ppa1~lucid1_i386.deb

 /var/cache/apt/archives/libmpeg3cine_1%3a2.1.5-0.14~ppa1~lucid1_i386.deb

 /var/cache/apt/archives/libquicktimecine_1%3a2.1.5-0.14~ppa1~lucid1_i386.deb

 /var/cache/apt/archives/cinelerra_1%3a2.1.5-0.14~ppa1~lucid1_i386.deb

E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Échec de l'installation d'un paquet. Tentative de récupération :





Le 04/01/2011 04:23, Nicola Ferralis a écrit :

  
  As I said in my previous note, I updated the Ubuntu

RE: [CinCV] cinelerra startup error in Ubuntu 10.10 64bit

2010-12-31 Thread Nicola Ferralis

I just pushed an updated package in the cinelerra-ppa repository, with the 
shmmax init script. So everything should be fixed now.

Please test.

Nicola

 



 From: p...@ichthyostega.de
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] cinelerra startup error in Ubuntu 10.10 64bit
 Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 06:42:11 +0100
 
 Paul Chang schrieb:
  Installed cinelerra in Ubuntu 10.10 64bit. Every time, when I tried to 
  start 
  cinelerra, I got an error message as shown in the attached screen shot. Any 
  fix suggestion and work-around is highly appreciated!
 
 Hi Paul Chang,
 
 the most simple fix is right below your nose: do as Cinelerra tells you!
 
 | Before running Cinelerra, do the following as root
 |
 | echo 0x7fff  /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax
 
 
 This command tells your OS kernel to allow individual programs to use
 more shared memory, which is what Cinelerra needs.
 Because such a setting could be used for a denial-of-service-attack,
 only the root user is allowed to do such a setting.
 
 Thus, at a console, you call sudo -i to get a root console
 and there you can issue this command.
 
 
 Which creates kind of a twist. Not every user is capable of running this
 command. Moreover it gets annoying if you have to do it every time you boot 
 your
 computer again. Thus, from here on there are several options to make your life
 better and let Cinelerra complain less...
 - put it somewhere into the system configuration, so this command is executed 
 at
   boot automatically
 - write a wrapper script to start Cinelerra
 - some pre compiled packages even install such an wrapper script automatically
   (if I recall correct, the Akirad packages do this).
 
 Now it's a bit difficult to help you further without knowing your skill level.
 How familiar are you with unix like operating systems? Do you know how to
 write a little shell script? Do you know how to handle the Unix permissions?
 
 Maybe someone else on the list can give more informations about a precompiled
 packages (I compiled Cinelerra myself, thus I can't say much about that topic)
 
 Greetings,
 Hermann V.
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [CinCV] Problems compiling the new CinelerraCV 2.1.5

2010-12-05 Thread Nicola Ferralis


The package in the ppa is compiled with conditions that are very similar to 
those indicated in the howto. I wouldn't expect any differences in the final 
behaviour. As indicated, try and recompile from source...

Ciao from California,
Nicola
 



 From: raffaella.tranie...@livecom.it
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Problems compiling the new CinelerraCV 2.1.5
 Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 18:28:41 +0100
 
 On 05/12/10 15:52, Wolfgang Brunner wrote:
  The version from the repository, I had already installed.
  the responsiveness of my mouse is delayed.
  in menus
  so I wanted to compile cine.
 
 I'm not sure it's the package to blame. I've seen a Cinelerra 
 misbehaving on menus after an internal upgrade from Lucid to Maverick
 (misplaced reaction of GUI).
 Compiling it from scratches didn't solve the problem.
 
 Ciao
 Raffaella
 
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RE: [CinCV] Problems compiling the new CinelerraCV 2.1.5

2010-12-05 Thread Nicola Ferralis


 And when you got environment/libraries ok, you can also compile 
 Cinelerra 4.2.
 
 as...@ubuntu:~/Bin/cinelerra-4.2/bin$ ./cinelerra
 Cinelerra 4.2 (C)2010 Adam Williams

Are you sure about that? I have been having problems compiling Cinelerra 4.2 
from source. The problem is in the 
libfaad library:

In file included from /usr/include/math.h:95,

 from common.h:348,

 from bits.c:29:

/usr/include/bits/mathcalls.h:326: error: conflicting types for 'lrintf'

common.h:313: note: previous definition of 'lrintf' was here

Apparently it's a known issue also for Fedora users:

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=2944664group_id=13554atid=113554

Cheers,
Nicola
  

RE: [CinCV] New PPA for Ubuntu - Cinelerra 2.1.5CV

2010-12-05 Thread Nicola Ferralis

No problem. I'd like to ask to give these builds a round of testing with 
different hardware (specifically RT kernels in Ubuntu studio). I don't have a 
way to test them myself, so any help is appreciated. Furthermore, this is not 
intended as a personal project, but a cooperation/collaboration. So anyone 
willing to help maintaining and improving the packages is welcome to join the 
cinelerra-ppa team:

https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+contactuser

Alas, feel free to drop an email to report issues.

Thanks,
Nicola 

 



 From: raffaella.tranie...@livecom.it
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] New PPA for Ubuntu - Cinelerra 2.1.5CV
 Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 10:11:17 +0100
 
 On 04/12/10 01:00, Nicola Ferralis wrote:
  I created a new personal package archive (PPA)
   The packaged version of cinelerra is 2.1.5CV.
 
 That's great news!!
 I updated the website accordingly.
 http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
 
 Thank you very much!
 
 Ciao
 Raffaella
 
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RE: [CinCV] Problems compiling the new CinelerraCV 2.1.5

2010-12-05 Thread Nicola Ferralis

mmmh weird. I did exactly the same. However I am using maverick i386...

Nicola

 



 From: asmo.koski...@arkki.info
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Problems compiling the new CinelerraCV 2.1.5
 Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 23:20:03 +0200
 
 05.12.2010 22:33, Nicola Ferralis kirjoitti:
 
  Are you sure about that? I have been having problems compiling Cinelerra 
  4.2 from source.
 
 I removed cinelerra-4.2 directory and downloaded source again.
 This is Maverick x84_64. I just use 'configure' with no options.
 
 as...@ubuntu:~/Bin$ bunzip2 cinelerra-4.2-src.tar.bz2
 as...@ubuntu:~/Bin$ tar xvf cinelerra-4.2-src.tar
 cinelerra-4.2/
 cinelerra-4.2/README
 [--]
 cinelerra-4.2/plugin_config
 as...@ubuntu:~/Bin$ cd cinelerra-4.2/
 
 as...@ubuntu:~/Bin/cinelerra-4.2$ ./configure
 CONFIGURING QUICKTIME
 CONFIGURING FAAD
 checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
 [--]
 Have Video4Linux 2
 Have DVB
 Have OpenGL 2.0
 Configured successfully.  Type 'make' to build me.
 as...@ubuntu:~/Bin/cinelerra-4.2$
 
 as...@ubuntu:~/Bin/cinelerra-4.2$ make
 make -f build/Makefile.cinelerra
 make[1]: Siirrytään hakemistoon /home/asmok/Bin/cinelerra-4.2
 [--]
 make[1]: Poistutaan hakemistosta /home/asmok/Bin/cinelerra-4.2
 as...@ubuntu:~/Bin/cinelerra-4.2$
 
 as...@ubuntu:~/Bin/cinelerra-4.2$ cd bin
 as...@ubuntu:~/Bin/cinelerra-4.2/bin$ ./cinelerra
 Cinelerra 4.2 (C)2010 Adam Williams
 
 Best Regards Asmo Koskinen.
 
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RE: [CinCV] Testing Nicola's PPA in Ubuntu Studio

2010-12-05 Thread Nicola Ferralis

Thanks, Asmo!

Best,
Nicola
 



 From: asmo.koski...@arkki.info
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: [CinCV] Testing Nicola's PPA in Ubuntu Studio
 Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 01:39:28 +0200
 
 
 Ubuntu Studio x86_64 10.04.1 - dual screen, realtime kernel.
 
 I do not see any problems to use Nicola PPA.
 
 I do use this script (needs ffmpeg from source) to make my camcorders MTS
 files suitable for Cinelerra - Cinelerra eats MOV files.
 
 http://code.google.com/p/hdffxvrt/
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4907079postcount=1
 
 I rendered short MOV clip to OGG/THEORA, no problems.
 
 stu...@ubuntu-studio:~$ uname -a
 Linux ubuntu-studio 2.6.33-29-realtime #1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT RT Wed Aug 4
 17:22:37 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 
 stu...@ubuntu-studio:~$ cinelerra
 Cinelerra 2.1.5CV (C) 2010 Heroine Virtual Ltd.
 Compiled on Mon Nov 29 02:05:51 UTC 2010
 
 stu...@ubuntu-studio:~$ lspci -k
 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G96 [GeForce 9500
 GT] (rev a1)
 Kernel driver in use: nvidia
 Kernel modules: nvidia-current, nvidiafb
 
 So far so good.
 
 Best Regards Asmo Koskinen.
 
 
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RE: [CinCV] Problems compiling the new CinelerraCV 2.1.5

2010-12-05 Thread Nicola Ferralis

It turns out that I get the compiling error with i386 machines, while I have no 
issues with amd64 

Nicola

 



 From: asmo.koski...@arkki.info
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: Re: [CinCV] Problems compiling the new CinelerraCV 2.1.5
 Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 00:03:05 +0200
 
 05.12.2010 22:33, Nicola Ferralis kirjoitti:
 
  And when you got environment/libraries ok, you can also compile
  Cinelerra 4.2.
 
  as...@ubuntu:~/Bin/cinelerra-4.2/bin$ ./cinelerra
  Cinelerra 4.2 (C)2010 Adam Williams
 
  Are you sure about that?
 
 I compiled cinelerra-cv again.
 
 Here is output of './configure --with-buildinfo=git/recompile' (end of):
 
 Summary of mandatory components:
libogg  found
libvorbis   found
libvorbisencfound
libvorbisfile   found
libtheora   found
OpenEXR found
libdv   found
libpng  found
libjpeg libraries   found
libjpeg headers found
libtiff libraries   found
libtiff headers found
FreeType 2  found
libx264 libraries   found
libx264 headers found
libuuid libraries   found
libuuid headers found
mjpegtools  found
libfftw3 libraries  found
libfftw3 headersfound
liba52 librariesfound
liba52 headers  found
libmp3lame librariesfound
libmp3lame headers  found
libsndfile librariesfound
libsndfile headers  found
libfaac libraries   found
libfaac headers found
libfaad libraries   found
libfaad headers found
 
 Summary of optional components:
ESD subsystem   found
 ESD (Enlightenment Sound Daemon) is enabled
ALSA subsystem  found
 ALSA is enabled
libraw1394  found
libiec61883 found
libavc1394 librariesfound
libavc1394 headers  found
librom1394 librariesfound
librom1394 headers  found
 Firewire is enabled
OpenGL 2.0 librariesmissing
 Hardware acceleration using OpenGL 2.0 is disabled
 
 Now type
make
 
 to start compilation.
 as...@ubuntu:~/Bin/cinelerra-cv$
 
 as...@ubuntu:~/Bin/cinelerra-cv$ /usr/local/bin/cinelerra
 Cinelerra 2.1.5CV  GIT::8f8268e619b6880afb3bc8e53b5e797a34c72180  (C) 
 2010 Heroine Virtual Ltd.
 Internal ffmpeg
 Compiled on su 5.12.2010 23.54.06 +0200
 
 Best Regards Asmo Koskinen.
 
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[CinCV] New PPA for Ubuntu - Cinelerra 2.1.5CV

2010-12-03 Thread Nicola Ferralis

I created a new personal package archive (PPA) for Ubuntu Maverick and below. I 
significantly upgraded the debian folder to allow builds for recent version of 
Ubuntu. The packaged version of cinelerra is 2.1.5CV. 

https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa



 

  

RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra

2010-12-03 Thread Nicola Ferralis


If you use this ppa you can easily remove it if you don't like it... ;-)

https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa
 



 From: myskillzo...@gmail.com
 To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
 Subject: [CinCV] Cinelerra
 Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 18:35:16 -0500
 
 Does Cinelerra run on Ubuntu 10.10?
 I don't want to screw up my OS by reinstalling this.
 
 Thanks
 
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