[CinCVS] Cinelerra productions: reply to Raffaella
Hi all, There are a lot of blogs and sites web on video under GNU/Linux station and some on Cinelerra on the web. A blog on Cinelerra with a link on the official unofficial version site web would distinguish it from others. As I said, I was thinking about a place to make people know there are other users of the software (by their blogs, their productions, their howtos, their patches on the code, or their coding of the code). To make something like that we have 3 solutions: 1: A place on the server where cvs.cinelerra.org is hosted (solution I prefer). But I don't know if it's possible. Maybe there are not enough place. 2: The Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof's solution (solution I like): I can offer hosting of a wordpress/drupal system on my webserver, no problem. (Thanks for your offer). This solution could permit us to have our own blog solution (adding plugin, own style of interface, own choice of blog software, own design). This solution is a better one too if you need to change the web host, to save and keep all contents in archives, upgrade or changing the system easily. Jeroen can you tell us how this would be possible? how much place could you give us? Is this a sure and trusted option? Can you give us more details on the hosting. What is a dedicated server in a datacenter? 3: A free blog, (blogger.com or on other free plateform blog). I like this solution less because of all the reasons listed in the #2. However I agree, it is a quick and good solution to begin. 4 (yes I know): Another solution proposed by goibhniu is to aggregates all feeds coming from selected cinelerra's blogs. This will be a good solution when the community become as active as the others listed on planetplanet.com. Your other proposal to have a cinelerra's productions channel on miro software is cool (imo), we can investigate on this. Hosting is just a part of the weblog creation. We need contributors (as Valentina says) to write articles, id est some sentences (not a lot just one or two just to present the work of another user). This is how I see this blog. By now we could post an announce on the cvs.cinelerra.org : Publishers WANTED!. With regards, Roland C. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra productions: reply to Raffaella
Op dinsdag 07-08-2007 om 13:31 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef Roland: Hi all, There are a lot of blogs and sites web on video under GNU/Linux station and some on Cinelerra on the web. A blog on Cinelerra with a link on the official unofficial version site web would distinguish it from others. As I said, I was thinking about a place to make people know there are other users of the software (by their blogs, their productions, their howtos, their patches on the code, or their coding of the code). To make something like that we have 3 solutions: 1: A place on the server where cvs.cinelerra.org is hosted (solution I prefer). But I don't know if it's possible. Maybe there are not enough place. 2: The Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof's solution (solution I like): I can offer hosting of a wordpress/drupal system on my webserver, no problem. (Thanks for your offer). This solution could permit us to have our own blog solution (adding plugin, own style of interface, own choice of blog software, own design). This solution is a better one too if you need to change the web host, to save and keep all contents in archives, upgrade or changing the system easily. Jeroen can you tell us how this would be possible? how much place could you give us? Is this a sure and trusted option? Can you give us more details on the hosting. What is a dedicated server in a datacenter? I rent a complete server that is located in a datacenter and i am the only one using this server. It has a fast connection (up and down) and i can decide how much room can be used for the Cinelerra blog. I think it's best to put the video on youtube like systems, so the room needed on my server is limited. When you use a content management system like Wordpress, it is pretty easy to move the complete website because the only thing you have to do is copy the files and the database. Don't worry about the space available, at the moment i have several gb's available. 3: A free blog, (blogger.com or on other free plateform blog). I like this solution less because of all the reasons listed in the #2. However I agree, it is a quick and good solution to begin. 4 (yes I know): Another solution proposed by goibhniu is to aggregates all feeds coming from selected cinelerra's blogs. This will be a good solution when the community become as active as the others listed on planetplanet.com. Your other proposal to have a cinelerra's productions channel on miro software is cool (imo), we can investigate on this. Hosting is just a part of the weblog creation. We need contributors (as Valentina says) to write articles, id est some sentences (not a lot just one or two just to present the work of another user). This is how I see this blog. By now we could post an announce on the cvs.cinelerra.org : Publishers WANTED!. With regards, Roland C. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra productions: reply to Raffaella
Op zondag 05-08-2007 om 11:07 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef Scott C. Frase: Another option would be to get a free blog through Blogger.com and make it a group blog that can be posted to by many authors, whoever on this list would like to contribute. This way, you don't have to worry about the blog going down because your ISP is offline, your cable modem get bollocksed or your box just crashed. (Speaking from what I've lived, naturally). I think this is also a good idea. However you don't have to worry that much about the server going down, because it's a dedicated server in a datacenter. But i'm just giving you the offer, If you want to use some other system that's fine by me. Also, as a user of Blogger, I have to say it is nice to have something work right out of the box that is easy to use and is reliable. And free, no less. ;) scott http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com On Sun, 2007-08-05 at 16:15 +0200, Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof wrote: I can offer hosting of a wordpress/drupal system on my webserver, no problem. Op zondag 05-08-2007 om 14:44 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Valentina Messeri: well, we do have a web.often is aoudated, cause it's not open.we need some wordpress or drupal with many publishers.this way we could really be a community and show cinelerra possibilities. is anyone available to do that? i mean, hosting and installing? ciao! http://encosianima.net/ Hi all, Raffaella I agree with you : it's important to see what can be done with Cinelerra, and a place where people can go and have a look on productions is a naecessary thing. (btw I can't see some cool italian productions in this list). BUT: What do you think about making a weblog (a blog I mean) for Cinelerra with a link on the cvs.cinelerra.org site web? I ask this question to all developpers. This weblog could be a cool place to publish all new events concerning Cinelerra (Community or hv version); that is new users' productions, new features, projects, alternatives, howtos?, etc, etc. Such a tool could permit discussions into the community, sharing and could allow the keep in archives links of past events. I think a weblog is worth a try. Don't you? With regards Roland C. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra http://encosianima.net/ This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra productions: reply to Raffaella
well, we do have a web.often is aoudated, cause it's not open.we need some wordpress or drupal with many publishers.this way we could really be a community and show cinelerra possibilities. is anyone available to do that? i mean, hosting and installing? ciao! http://encosianima.net/ Hi all, Raffaella I agree with you : it's important to see what can be done with Cinelerra, and a place where people can go and have a look on productions is a naecessary thing. (btw I can't see some cool italian productions in this list). BUT: What do you think about making a weblog (a blog I mean) for Cinelerra with a link on the cvs.cinelerra.org site web? I ask this question to all developpers. This weblog could be a cool place to publish all new events concerning Cinelerra (Community or hv version); that is new users' productions, new features, projects, alternatives, howtos?, etc, etc. Such a tool could permit discussions into the community, sharing and could allow the keep in archives links of past events. I think a weblog is worth a try. Don't you? With regards Roland C. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra http://encosianima.net/ This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra productions: reply to Raffaella
Yo wildhostile! :-) What do you think about making a weblog (a blog I mean) for Cinelerra with a link on the cvs.cinelerra.org site web? That could be a way to have both things: a freely editable blog and a cv.cinelerra.org container. Same destiny could have the Cinelerra Production Wiki page. This weblog could be a cool place to publish all new events concerning Cinelerra (Community or hv version); that is new users' productions, new features, projects, alternatives, howtos?, etc, etc. Such a tool could permit discussions into the community, sharing and could allow the keep in archives links of past events. I think a weblog is worth a try. Don't you? Cin is free-software thus an application with a soul. I think inevitable that the Community needs communicating and sharing beyond the code issues. A blog is quite different from a Mailing List. We could make them differ for style only or for topic too (the ML more technical?) I come from the analog world. I use Cin and I feel part of this community because of its people, not because of its web software. I participate only because I want to. Nevertheless I'm aware that different web software causes different participation styles. Ciao! Raffaella PS: (btw I can't see some cool italian productions in this list). Outch! :-/ But you are right: it is not fair to play the lurker in this game. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra productions: reply to Raffaella
I can offer hosting of a wordpress/drupal system on my webserver, no problem. Op zondag 05-08-2007 om 14:44 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Valentina Messeri: well, we do have a web.often is aoudated, cause it's not open.we need some wordpress or drupal with many publishers.this way we could really be a community and show cinelerra possibilities. is anyone available to do that? i mean, hosting and installing? ciao! http://encosianima.net/ Hi all, Raffaella I agree with you : it's important to see what can be done with Cinelerra, and a place where people can go and have a look on productions is a naecessary thing. (btw I can't see some cool italian productions in this list). BUT: What do you think about making a weblog (a blog I mean) for Cinelerra with a link on the cvs.cinelerra.org site web? I ask this question to all developpers. This weblog could be a cool place to publish all new events concerning Cinelerra (Community or hv version); that is new users' productions, new features, projects, alternatives, howtos?, etc, etc. Such a tool could permit discussions into the community, sharing and could allow the keep in archives links of past events. I think a weblog is worth a try. Don't you? With regards Roland C. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra http://encosianima.net/ This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra productions: reply to Raffaella
On 8/5/07, Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can offer hosting of a wordpress/drupal system on my webserver, no problem. That's a generous offer Jeroen! I am wondering though, if it would be more effective to have a planet cinelerra to aggregate related blogs/youtube videos/podcasts etc.(http://www.planetplanet.org/) That way people can use whatever blogging platform they want and there's not much overhead for administration, just adding and removing feeds I think. I only know of one blog that covers cinelerra, the always informative and beautifully presented http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com but if there are others out there it would be great to know about it. There is also the fantastic video show http://www.thesourceshow.org/ which has great cinelerra tutorials (and I just noticed a new one #3!). Since there seems to be more and more videos online that have been created with cinelerra perhaps a Miro channel (formerly Democracy Player) would work too? If you set up a drupal or wordpress system people would need to contribute to it regularly and also to manage the system, delete spam, upgrade, manage accounts etc. I don't know how much work that involves or if you're happy to do that or if it's more the hosting part that you would like to provide. Naturally if there was an official cinelerra blog that could also be part of a planet cinelerra. Perhaps the first thing is to see if there are people who would like to write regularly and put together a list of existing blogs which are relevant, ideally on the wiki. Personally I'm not so interested in writing regularly but I would write occasionally about cinelerra on my own blog and I would be happy to set up planetplanet on my system to see if there's any interest. -- goibhniu Op zondag 05-08-2007 om 14:44 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Valentina Messeri: well, we do have a web.often is aoudated, cause it's not open.we need some wordpress or drupal with many publishers.this way we could really be a community and show cinelerra possibilities. is anyone available to do that? i mean, hosting and installing? ciao! http://encosianima.net/ Hi all, Raffaella I agree with you : it's important to see what can be done with Cinelerra, and a place where people can go and have a look on productions is a naecessary thing. (btw I can't see some cool italian productions in this list). BUT: What do you think about making a weblog (a blog I mean) for Cinelerra with a link on the cvs.cinelerra.org site web? I ask this question to all developpers. This weblog could be a cool place to publish all new events concerning Cinelerra (Community or hv version); that is new users' productions, new features, projects, alternatives, howtos?, etc, etc. Such a tool could permit discussions into the community, sharing and could allow the keep in archives links of past events. I think a weblog is worth a try. Don't you? With regards Roland C. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra http://encosianima.net/ This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra productions: reply to Raffaella
Another option would be to get a free blog through Blogger.com and make it a group blog that can be posted to by many authors, whoever on this list would like to contribute. This way, you don't have to worry about the blog going down because your ISP is offline, your cable modem get bollocksed or your box just crashed. (Speaking from what I've lived, naturally). Also, as a user of Blogger, I have to say it is nice to have something work right out of the box that is easy to use and is reliable. And free, no less. ;) scott http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com On Sun, 2007-08-05 at 16:15 +0200, Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof wrote: I can offer hosting of a wordpress/drupal system on my webserver, no problem. Op zondag 05-08-2007 om 14:44 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Valentina Messeri: well, we do have a web.often is aoudated, cause it's not open.we need some wordpress or drupal with many publishers.this way we could really be a community and show cinelerra possibilities. is anyone available to do that? i mean, hosting and installing? ciao! http://encosianima.net/ Hi all, Raffaella I agree with you : it's important to see what can be done with Cinelerra, and a place where people can go and have a look on productions is a naecessary thing. (btw I can't see some cool italian productions in this list). BUT: What do you think about making a weblog (a blog I mean) for Cinelerra with a link on the cvs.cinelerra.org site web? I ask this question to all developpers. This weblog could be a cool place to publish all new events concerning Cinelerra (Community or hv version); that is new users' productions, new features, projects, alternatives, howtos?, etc, etc. Such a tool could permit discussions into the community, sharing and could allow the keep in archives links of past events. I think a weblog is worth a try. Don't you? With regards Roland C. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra http://encosianima.net/ This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCVS] Cinelerra productions: reply to Raffaella
Hi all, Raffaella I agree with you : it's important to see what can be done with Cinelerra, and a place where people can go and have a look on productions is a naecessary thing. (btw I can't see some cool italian productions in this list). BUT: What do you think about making a weblog (a blog I mean) for Cinelerra with a link on the cvs.cinelerra.org site web? I ask this question to all developpers. This weblog could be a cool place to publish all new events concerning Cinelerra (Community or hv version); that is new users' productions, new features, projects, alternatives, howtos?, etc, etc. Such a tool could permit discussions into the community, sharing and could allow the keep in archives links of past events. I think a weblog is worth a try. Don't you? With regards Roland C. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
