Re: [CinCVS] Trying to record from MiniDV camera.

2007-03-12 Thread Geoff Kuenning
 If Cinelerra freezes on you, you can go to a root-level terminal window,
 type 
 ps -aux | more 
 and keep hitting enter until you see the Cinelerra process listed. Take
 note of its PID (process ID number), then hit enter some more until
 more finishes and you get back to the # prompt. Then type
 kill 
 And hit enter, where  is the PID of the Cinelerra process. This will
 terminate Cinelerra immediately, without your having to shut down your
 system.

Better to type:

ps aux | grep cinelerra

and save your eyeballs.  Or try pkill cinelerra if you have pkill.

Also, if a plain kill doesn't free things up, try kill -9  or
pkill -9 cinelerra.
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goodly number of scientists are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just
stupid. -- James Watson

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Re: [CinCVS] Trying to record from MiniDV camera.

2007-03-07 Thread Fred Williams
On Wed, 2007-07-03 at 19:19 +0100, Gour wrote:
 On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 17:38:46 -0500
 Fred Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hey, if Kino is free S/W, why not just liberate the code and then
  match styles and compile?  Isn't that what free S/W is all about?
 
 I heard on #cinelerra (some time ago) about idea to just provide
 front-end in Cinelerra for dvgrab which does good job...

That sounds workable.  I decided on trying Kino first and it worked
fine too.  So I may not go further unless problems arise.  


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Re: [CinCVS] Trying to record from MiniDV camera.

2007-03-06 Thread Herman Robak
Herman Robak:
   Possibly the same bug as...
   http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=334
   
   Any progress on that, by the way?

Andraž Tori:
 Only that i am seriously thinking of disabling record menu entry..

Scott C. Frase:
 Andraz,
 You are a funny man!

 He is not joking.

 I am inclined to agree.  Either fix a feature to a 
not completely broken state, or remove it.

 Having a prominent broken feature lingering for 
years is a huge drain of the users' time, and a
source of great frustration and disappointment.

-- 
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[CinCVS] Trying to record from MiniDV camera.

2007-03-05 Thread Fred Williams
Hello People,
I am running cinelerra on Ubuntu Linux with a Core 2 Duo processor and
2 Gigabytes of memory.  I have it installed and was able to play with
some video files (.avi) from my still camera the other day.  Now I
need to load some Mini DV tapes for editing so today I bought a JVC
GR-D750U camera and a Firewire PCI card.
Unfortunately when I try to record  from the camera there seems to be
no connection although all the wires are connected.  When I choose
File--Record, I get the Cinelerra Recording box, but then when I click
on the red button the window freezes and nothing gets recorded.  The
camera is playing the tape, but nothing comes through and I can't stop
the recording in Cinelerra...It won't close the window while it is
recording and it's not recording anything.
So far the only way I can close cinelerra is to log out, or shut down
the system.  The camera manual says that it won't download the date and
time info to the computer anyway.  Should I take the camera back?

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Re: [CinCVS] Trying to record from MiniDV camera.

2007-03-05 Thread Andraž Tori
Please use Kino for recording.

Recording is broken in Cinelerra.

bye
andraz

On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 18:50 -0500, Fred Williams wrote:
 Hello People,
   I am running cinelerra on Ubuntu Linux with a Core 2 Duo processor and
 2 Gigabytes of memory.  I have it installed and was able to play with
 some video files (.avi) from my still camera the other day.  Now I
 need to load some Mini DV tapes for editing so today I bought a JVC
 GR-D750U camera and a Firewire PCI card.
   Unfortunately when I try to record  from the camera there seems to be
 no connection although all the wires are connected.  When I choose
 File--Record, I get the Cinelerra Recording box, but then when I click
 on the red button the window freezes and nothing gets recorded.  The
 camera is playing the tape, but nothing comes through and I can't stop
 the recording in Cinelerra...It won't close the window while it is
 recording and it's not recording anything.
   So far the only way I can close cinelerra is to log out, or shut down
 the system.  The camera manual says that it won't download the date and
 time info to the computer anyway.  Should I take the camera back?
 


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RE: [CinCVS] Trying to record from MiniDV camera.

2007-03-05 Thread Michael Evans
Fred,

I've never tried to use Cinelerra for recording, only editing. I used
dvgrab to get clips from a DV tape in a Canon Optura camera. This camera
also connects to the computer via firewire, and dvgrab can start and
stop the camera through the bidirectional firewire interface. 

If Cinelerra freezes on you, you can go to a root-level terminal window,
type 
ps -aux | more 
and keep hitting enter until you see the Cinelerra process listed. Take
note of its PID (process ID number), then hit enter some more until
more finishes and you get back to the # prompt. Then type
kill 
And hit enter, where  is the PID of the Cinelerra process. This will
terminate Cinelerra immediately, without your having to shut down your
system.

Michael Evans 

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Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 3:50 PM
To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
Subject: [CinCVS] Trying to record from MiniDV camera.

Hello People,
I am running cinelerra on Ubuntu Linux with a Core 2 Duo
processor and
2 Gigabytes of memory.  I have it installed and was able to play with
some video files (.avi) from my still camera the other day.  Now I
need to load some Mini DV tapes for editing so today I bought a JVC
GR-D750U camera and a Firewire PCI card.
Unfortunately when I try to record  from the camera there seems
to be no connection although all the wires are connected.  When I choose
File--Record, I get the Cinelerra Recording box, but then when I click
on the red button the window freezes and nothing gets recorded.  The
camera is playing the tape, but nothing comes through and I can't stop
the recording in Cinelerra...It won't close the window while it is
recording and it's not recording anything.
So far the only way I can close cinelerra is to log out, or shut
down the system.  The camera manual says that it won't download the date
and time info to the computer anyway.  Should I take the camera back?

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Fred Williams


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Re: [CinCVS] Trying to record from MiniDV camera.

2007-03-05 Thread Andraž Tori
On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 01:19 +0100, Herman Robak wrote:
 On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 00:58 +0100, Andraž Tori wrote:
  Please use Kino for recording.
  
  Recording is broken in Cinelerra.
 
 Possibly the same bug as...
 http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=334
 
 Any progress on that, by the way?


Only that i am seriously thinking of disabling record menu entry..

bye
andraz


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Re: [CinCVS] Trying to record from MiniDV camera.

2007-03-05 Thread Fred Williams
On Tue, 2007-06-03 at 01:39 +0100, Andraž Tori wrote:
 On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 01:19 +0100, Herman Robak wrote:
  On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 00:58 +0100, Andraž Tori wrote:
   Please use Kino for recording.
   
   Recording is broken in Cinelerra.
  
  Possibly the same bug as...
  http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=334
  
  Any progress on that, by the way?
 
 
 Only that i am seriously thinking of disabling record menu entry..

OK.  I'm tempted to say, Oh yeah, that'll fix it! but I know how
these things are and I do not wish to tarnish the gift that Cinelerra
has been.  I will learn to use Kino, or dvgrab, or both,... whatever it
takes,
I am now just bothered by the announcement in the camera manual that
the date and time will not be transferred to the computer.   This is not
a bug, they planned it that way.  Is there another camera that would do
it.  I can rent a Sony PD-150 to shoot, but I don't want to rent one of
those again to play back the tapes.
Thanks for the outpouring of assistance.  This is a good group and the
response has been beyond my expectations.  I'll take some time to
experiment with kino and dvgrab and if I have problems you'll be the
first to know.

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