ISDN case... [7:72017]

2003-07-08 Thread H T
Hi all,
I have a problem with my ISDN back up link... the interface in STANDBY mode.


TBRS#sho inter bri0
BRI0 is standby mode, line protocol is down
  Hardware is PQUICC BRI
  Description: Dialer to Lovisenberg
  Internet address is 172.21.14.1/24
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 64 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation PPP, loopback not set
  Last input never, output never, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:39:45
  Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: weighted fair
  Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops)
 Conversations  0/0/16 (active/max active/max total)
 Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated)
 Available Bandwidth 48 kilobits/sec
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
 0 packets output, 0 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
 0 carrier transitions


and the configuration is

hostname TBRS
!
username LDS password 7 15100A0F0F3F3B28213D3E
isdn switch-type basic-net3
!
interface BRI0
 description Dialer to LDS
 ip address 172.21.14.1 255.255.255.0
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer idle-timeout 750
 dialer map ip 172.21.14.2 name LDS 23225374
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp chap password 7 1307161100191426222A23
!
interface FastEthernet0
 ip address 172.20.40.1 255.255.255.0
 ip helper-address 100.73.120.16
 speed auto
 no cdp enable
!
interface Serial0
 backup interface BRI0
 ip address 172.20.14.1 255.255.255.252
 no fair-queue
!
router eigrp 1
 redistribute connected
 redistribute static
 passive-interface FastEthernet0
 network 172.0.0.0
 no auto-summary
 no eigrp log-neighbor-changes
!
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 172.20.14.2
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 172.21.14.2 200
no ip http server
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit




The other side is configred in the same way.


Cheers




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RE: Query on MGX8850 [7:71702]

2003-07-08 Thread Divakaran Ullampuzhamana
Hi,
  My answers inline


Thanks and Regards


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Hi Diva,

I feel I need some more information on this..

1. Are all 4 nodes part of the same network, i.e., are the India and UK end
nodes back connected?

ALL NODES ARE PART OF THE SAME NETWORK BUT ARE NOT BACK CONNECTED.

2. Are they having just 1 IPLC each?
YES ONE EACH OF THE IPLCS ARE CONNECTED TO EACH OF THE MGX8850

3. If they are having more than 1 IPLC, are you running PNNI or some other
routing protocol on them, or have you done some static mapping?
THEY HAVE ONLY ONE IPLC EACH, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN CONFIGURED WITH PNNI

4. Do you mean to say that you have 2 routers running HSRP and they are
attached to different FRSMs on FR? And then on in case of one IPLC going
down you want the traffic to route through the other IPLC?

YES WE HAVE TWO ROUTERS RUNNING HSRP , AND THEY ARE ATTACHED TO TWO
DIFFERENT FRSM ON TWO DIFFERENT MGX8850.
AND INCASE OF IPLC FAILURE ON ONE MGX , THE ROUTER CONNECTED TO THE FRSM ON
THAT MGX 8850 SHOULD DETECT THAT AND THEN THE HSRP SHOULD REDUCE THE
PRIORITY.


On the last point, as per me it would be better to connect your MGX nodes
to
each other locally at both the locations and then by running PNNI
end-to-end
you can route your traffic in case of IPLC failures, and more so if both
the
nodes are sitting close by. For your traffic routing you can rely upon on
some IP routing features.

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO BACK CONNECT THE MGXs BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT IN ONE
SINGLE LOCATION.
AND THE CUSTOMER WANTS TO USE ONLY STATIC ROUTES AND NO DYANAMIC PROTOCOL.

HTH

Vikram


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Subject: RE: Query on MGX8850 [7:71702]

Hi,
   Let me expalain my network now.
  I have two MGX8850s in India on to which one IPLC each are getting
connected to the PXm1-e1 card.The other end of the IPLC s are connected
similarly to two MGX8850s in UK.
 We have a FRSM card on each of the MGXs .We have 4 cisco 3745 routers
connected using a pair of DTE and DCE cables.

The serial interface is configured for framerelay.I have not created any
subinterfaces on the serial interface for framelrelay. The routers are
configured with HSRP. I would like the HSRP to track the changes in the
status of the IPLC and switch over the HSRP active router. Right now, when
the IPLc goes down, the FRSM card still shows up and the router serial
interfaces shows line protocol up.Thus HSRP , which is tracking the serial
interface still assumes that the link is up and hence will not change the
state.

My objective is :---

 The serial interface connected to the FRSM  on the MGX should be able to
know when the IPLC connected to  PXM1-e1 goes down.And the HSRp which is
tracking the serial interface should change the state .



Thanks and Regards


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HI Diva,

I think your query is more towards the FR interfaces than the MGX nodes. As
per me, as soon the IPLC or the trunk link on the MGX goes down, it will
also make the FR connection down, and same will be reflected on the PVC
status in router also. So that should serve your purpose, but then what is
your interface configuration, are you using sub-interface or the PVC is
configured on to the main interface itself.  Let us know about your core
objective and some more information, and then may be things take some new
turn.


HTH

Vikram


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RE: Cisco catalyst 3548 and Radius [7:71991]

2003-07-08 Thread Andrew Larkins
those commands are only there after you enable aaa new model.

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Subject: Cisco catalyst 3548 and Radius [7:71991]


Hi all,

I am configuring Radius on a cat 3548 and I do not have the global config
"radius" command available.  Anyone know what the commands ought to be to
create a server, key, etc.. Normally it is Radius-server key, radius-server
host..  Can't figure it out..  

I have IOS  12.0(5.2)XU




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protocol analyzer [7:72018]

2003-07-08 Thread fdfdfdfd fdfdfdf
someone please tell me web sites about how to understand the outputs of
protocol analyzer.

any help will be appreciated!


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RE: protocol analyzer [7:72018]

2003-07-08 Thread Dom
You may find the two sites listed at the bottom of 

http://www.sysdom.org/html/web_links.htm

To be of some use.

Best regards,

Dom Stocqueler
SysDom Technologies


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someone please tell me web sites about how to understand the outputs of
protocol analyzer.

any help will be appreciated!




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Re: ISDN Port goes to Deactivated mode [7:72023]

2003-07-08 Thread Mr piyush shah
Dear all
I am having 128 kbps Leased Line with ISDN backup.As
the Link goes Down ,ISDN should trigger,however in my
case the ISDN link does not come up and goes to
deactivated mode.What could be the problem .I have
seen that upon removing the ISDN link and inserting
back it gives the status as ACTIVE.What could be the
problm?
Kindly help as I am not able to use backup link due to
this reason.

I have attached herewitht the log of sh isdn status
command for your kind pwerusal

Thanks in advance.

Regards


Piyush

router-1#sh ISDN status

ISDN BRI0 interface
dsl 0, interface ISDN Switchtype = basic-net3
Layer 1 Status:
DEACTIVATED
Layer 2 Status:
TEI = 85, Ces = 1, SAPI = 0, State =
TEI_ASSIGNED
I_Queue_Len 0, UI_Queue_Len 0
Layer 3 Status:
0 Active Layer 3 Call(s)
Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 0
The Free Channel Mask:  0x8003
Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 0


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Re: ISDN case... [7:72017]

2003-07-08 Thread H T
Hi, This is the detail configuration for both routers

LDS#
LDS#show run
Building configuration...

Current configuration : 2939 bytes
!
version 12.2
service timestamps debug datetime msec localtime
service timestamps log datetime msec localtime
service password-encryption
service compress-config
!
hostname LDS
!
boot system flash c3725-is-mz.122-15.T2.bin
logging queue-limit 100
!
username TBRS password 7 104C081A0E020207050A21
clock timezone met 1
clock summer-time met recurring last Sun Mar 2:00 last Sun Oct 3:00
ip subnet-zero
!
isdn switch-type basic-net3
!
no voice hpi capture buffer
no voice hpi capture destination
!
mta receive maximum-recipients 0
!
!
interface FastEthernet0/0
 ip address 100.73.1.3 255.255.128.0
 duplex auto
 speed auto
!
interface Serial1/1
 description Link to TBRS
 ip address 172.20.14.2 255.255.255.252
 backup interface BRI2/3
 serial restart_delay 0
!
!
interface BRI2/3
 description Dialer to TBRS
 ip address 172.21.14.2 255.255.255.0
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer idle-timeout 750
 dialer map ip 172.21.14.1 name TBRS 022193533
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp chap password 7 0509070C2A595E05100B1C
!
!
router eigrp 1
 redistribute connected
 redistribute static
 passive-interface FastEthernet0/0
 network 172.0.0.0
 network 172.20.11.0 0.0.0.255
 network 172.20.12.0 0.0.0.255
 network 172.20.13.0 0.0.0.255
 network 172.20.14.0 0.0.0.255
 network 172.20.15.0 0.0.0.255
 no auto-summary
 no eigrp log-neighbor-changes
!
no ip http server
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 100.73.1.1
ip route 172.20.10.0 255.255.255.0 172.20.11.1
ip route 172.20.20.0 255.255.255.0 172.20.12.1
ip route 172.20.30.0 255.255.255.0 172.20.13.1
ip route 172.20.40.0 255.255.255.0 172.20.14.1
ip route 172.20.50.0 255.255.255.0 172.20.15.1
ip route 172.21.14.0 255.255.255.0 172.21.14.1 200
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
!
call rsvp-sync
!
mgcp profile default
!
dial-peer cor custom
!
banner motd ^CCWarning: All unauthorized use will be reported! ^C
!
line con 0
 exec-timeout 0 0
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
 password 7 15130F010D7338303A32212D01
 login
!
end

LDS#show inter bri2/3
BRI2/3 is standby mode, line protocol is down
  Hardware is BRI
  Description: Dialer to TBRS
  Internet address is 172.21.14.2/24
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 64 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation PPP, loopback not set
  Last input 03:41:47, output 03:41:47, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 01:48:55
  Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: weighted fair
  Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops)
 Conversations  0/1/16 (active/max active/max total)
 Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated)
 Available Bandwidth 48 kilobits/sec
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
 0 packets output, 0 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
 0 carrier transitions
LDS#
LDS#





The second router



TBRS#
TBRS#show run
Building configuration...

Current configuration : 1508 bytes
!
version 12.2
service timestamps debug datetime msec localtime
service timestamps log datetime msec localtime
service password-encryption
service compress-config
!
hostname TBRS
!
enable secret 5 $1$mgUK$3f83im5ZmyjmtPvmYmU331
enable password 7 110A1016141D
!
username LDS password 7 15100A0F0F3F3B28213D3E
clock timezone met 1
clock summer-time met recurring last Sun Mar 2:00 last Sun Oct 3:00
ip subnet-zero
!
isdn switch-type basic-net3
!
!
!
interface BRI0
 description Dialer to Lovisenberg
 ip address 172.21.14.1 255.255.255.0
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer idle-timeout 750
 dialer map ip 172.21.14.2 name LDS-R01 23225374
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp chap password 7 1307161100191426222A23
!
interface FastEthernet0
 ip address 172.20.40.1 255.255.255.0
 ip helper-address 100.73.120.16
 speed auto
 no cdp enable
!
interface Serial0
 backup interface BRI0
 ip address 172.20.14.1 255.255.255.252
 no fair-queue
!
router eigrp 1
 redistribute connected
 redistribute static
 passive-interface FastEthernet0
 network 172.0.0.0
 no auto-summary
 no eigrp log-neighbor-changes
!
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 172.20.14.2
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 172.21.14.2 200
no ip http server
!
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
dialer-list 1 protocol ipx permit
banner motd ^CCWarning: All unauthorized use will be reported! ^C
!
line con 0
 exec-timeout 15 0
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
 password 7 0005170B0D0218121D2058411B
 login
!
no scheduler allocate
end


TBRS#
TB

OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-08 Thread hebn9999
layer 2 frame has a MTU of 1500 bytes.
   how does cisco router propagate router-lsa whose size exceed 1500
bytes(more than 122 links in one area)?
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Re: ISDN case... [7:72017]

2003-07-08 Thread ericbrouwers
This is normal behaviour: if you configure BRI as backup, it will go in
standby mode and line protocol goes down. You can avoid this by configuring
a dialer interface as backup. Then the dialer interface will go in standby
mode, but the BRI stays up!! This is preferred since:
1. some Telco's will lock out your line when it is too long down;
2. you can easily detect if your backup goes down.
This won't give any surprises when you really need the backup!

So replace this:
interface s0
   backup interface bri0

By following:
interface s0
   backup interface dialer 1

interface dialer 1
   dialer pool 1

interface bri0
   dialer pool-member 1

In your case I would try something like this:

interface s0
   ip address 172.20.14.1 255.255.255.252
   backup interface dialer 1

dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit

interface dialer 1
   description Dialer to LDS
   ip address 172.21.14.1 255.255.255.0
   encapsulation ppp
   ppp authentication chap
   ppp chap password 7 1307161100191426222A23
   dialer idle-timeout 750
   dialer map ip 172.21.14.2 name LDS 23225374
   dialer-group 1
   dialer pool 1

interface bri0
   isdn switch-type basic-net3
   encapsulation ppp
   ppp authentication chap
   ppp chap password 7 1307161100191426222A23
   dialer pool-member 1

Hope this helps,

Eric Brouwers

PS
Be careful about moving all statements below BRI interface to dialer
interface. This is what Cisco says about it:

"...Commands that apply before authentication is complete must be configured
on the physical (BRI) interface and not on the dialer profile. Dialer
profiles do not copy PPP authentication commands (or LCP commands) to the
physical interface
.."

I've never tried the most efficient configuration, that's why there is some
redundancy in the config above. Maybe someone else can comment about
removing the PPP encaps. and auth. commands from the dialer interface??

Cheers,

Eric


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Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:36 AM
Subject: ISDN case... [7:72017]


> Hi all,
> I have a problem with my ISDN back up link... the interface in STANDBY
mode.
>
>
> TBRS#sho inter bri0
> BRI0 is standby mode, line protocol is down
>   Hardware is PQUICC BRI
>   Description: Dialer to Lovisenberg
>   Internet address is 172.21.14.1/24
>   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 64 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
>  reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
>   Encapsulation PPP, loopback not set
>   Last input never, output never, output hang never
>   Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:39:45
>   Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
>   Queueing strategy: weighted fair
>   Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops)
>  Conversations  0/0/16 (active/max active/max total)
>  Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated)
>  Available Bandwidth 48 kilobits/sec
>   5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>   5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>  0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer
>  Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
>  0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
>  0 packets output, 0 bytes, 0 underruns
>  0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
>  0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
>  0 carrier transitions
>
>
> and the configuration is
>
> hostname TBRS
> !
> username LDS password 7 15100A0F0F3F3B28213D3E
> isdn switch-type basic-net3
> !
> interface BRI0
>  description Dialer to LDS
>  ip address 172.21.14.1 255.255.255.0
>  encapsulation ppp
>  dialer idle-timeout 750
>  dialer map ip 172.21.14.2 name LDS 23225374
>  dialer-group 1
>  isdn switch-type basic-net3
>  ppp authentication chap
>  ppp chap password 7 1307161100191426222A23
> !
> interface FastEthernet0
>  ip address 172.20.40.1 255.255.255.0
>  ip helper-address 100.73.120.16
>  speed auto
>  no cdp enable
> !
> interface Serial0
>  backup interface BRI0
>  ip address 172.20.14.1 255.255.255.252
>  no fair-queue
> !
> router eigrp 1
>  redistribute connected
>  redistribute static
>  passive-interface FastEthernet0
>  network 172.0.0.0
>  no auto-summary
>  no eigrp log-neighbor-changes
> !
> ip classless
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 172.20.14.2
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 172.21.14.2 200
> no ip http server
> !
> dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
>
>
>
>
> The other side is configred in the same way.
>
>
> Cheers




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Re: ISDN Port goes to Deactivated mode [7:72022]

2003-07-08 Thread Mr piyush shah
Dear all
I am having 128 kbps Leased Line with ISDN backup.As
the Link goes Down ,ISDN should trigger,however in my
case the ISDN link does not come up and goes to
deactivated mode.What could be the problem .I have
seen that upon removing the ISDN link and inserting
back it gives the status as ACTIVE.What could be the
problm?
Kindly help as I am not able to use backup link due to
this reason.

I have attached herewitht the log of sh isdn status
command for your kind pwerusal

Thanks in advance.

Regards


Piyush

router-1#sh ISDN status

ISDN BRI0 interface
dsl 0, interface ISDN Switchtype = basic-net3
Layer 1 Status:
DEACTIVATED
Layer 2 Status:
TEI = 85, Ces = 1, SAPI = 0, State =
TEI_ASSIGNED
I_Queue_Len 0, UI_Queue_Len 0
Layer 3 Status:
0 Active Layer 3 Call(s)
Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 0
The Free Channel Mask:  0x8003
Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 0


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Re: ISDN case... [7:72017]

2003-07-08 Thread H T
Hi Eric,
Thanks for what you wrote...

I want the BRI just for a back up... so the line should stay down all the
time when every thing is normal. I want the BRI come up only once the serial
go down " in this way we get small bill" :)

how about the routing section ? did you had a look at?


cheers,
Heiman.

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> This is normal behaviour: if you configure BRI as backup, it will go in
> standby mode and line protocol goes down. You can avoid this by
configuring
> a dialer interface as backup. Then the dialer interface will go in standby
> mode, but the BRI stays up!! This is preferred since:
> 1. some Telco's will lock out your line when it is too long down;
> 2. you can easily detect if your backup goes down.
> This won't give any surprises when you really need the backup!
>
> So replace this:
> interface s0
>backup interface bri0
>
> By following:
> interface s0
>backup interface dialer 1
>
> interface dialer 1
>dialer pool 1
>
> interface bri0
>dialer pool-member 1
>
> In your case I would try something like this:
>
> interface s0
>ip address 172.20.14.1 255.255.255.252
>backup interface dialer 1
>
> dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
>
> interface dialer 1
>description Dialer to LDS
>ip address 172.21.14.1 255.255.255.0
>encapsulation ppp
>ppp authentication chap
>ppp chap password 7 1307161100191426222A23
>dialer idle-timeout 750
>dialer map ip 172.21.14.2 name LDS 23225374
>dialer-group 1
>dialer pool 1
>
> interface bri0
>isdn switch-type basic-net3
>encapsulation ppp
>ppp authentication chap
>ppp chap password 7 1307161100191426222A23
>dialer pool-member 1
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Eric Brouwers
>
> PS
> Be careful about moving all statements below BRI interface to dialer
> interface. This is what Cisco says about it:
>
> "...Commands that apply before authentication is complete must be
configured
> on the physical (BRI) interface and not on the dialer profile. Dialer
> profiles do not copy PPP authentication commands (or LCP commands) to the
> physical interface
> .."
>
> I've never tried the most efficient configuration, that's why there is
some
> redundancy in the config above. Maybe someone else can comment about
> removing the PPP encaps. and auth. commands from the dialer interface??
>
> Cheers,
>
> Eric
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "H T"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:36 AM
> Subject: ISDN case... [7:72017]
>
>
> > Hi all,
> > I have a problem with my ISDN back up link... the interface in STANDBY
> mode.
> >
> >
> > TBRS#sho inter bri0
> > BRI0 is standby mode, line protocol is down
> >   Hardware is PQUICC BRI
> >   Description: Dialer to Lovisenberg
> >   Internet address is 172.21.14.1/24
> >   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 64 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
> >  reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
> >   Encapsulation PPP, loopback not set
> >   Last input never, output never, output hang never
> >   Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:39:45
> >   Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
> >   Queueing strategy: weighted fair
> >   Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops)
> >  Conversations  0/0/16 (active/max active/max total)
> >  Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated)
> >  Available Bandwidth 48 kilobits/sec
> >   5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
> >   5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
> >  0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer
> >  Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
> >  0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
> >  0 packets output, 0 bytes, 0 underruns
> >  0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
> >  0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
> >  0 carrier transitions
> >
> >
> > and the configuration is
> >
> > hostname TBRS
> > !
> > username LDS password 7 15100A0F0F3F3B28213D3E
> > isdn switch-type basic-net3
> > !
> > interface BRI0
> >  description Dialer to LDS
> >  ip address 172.21.14.1 255.255.255.0
> >  encapsulation ppp
> >  dialer idle-timeout 750
> >  dialer map ip 172.21.14.2 name LDS 23225374
> >  dialer-group 1
> >  isdn switch-type basic-net3
> >  ppp authentication chap
> >  ppp chap password 7 1307161100191426222A23
> > !
> > interface FastEthernet0
> >  ip address 172.20.40.1 255.255.255.0
> >  ip helper-address 100.73.120.16
> >  speed auto
> >  no cdp enable
> > !
> > interface Serial0
> >  backup interface BRI0
> >  ip address 172.20.14.1 255.255.255.252
> >  no fair-queue
> > !
> > router eigrp 1
> >  redistribute connected
> >  redistribute static
> >  passive-interface FastEthernet0
> >  network 172.0.0.0
> >  no auto-summary
> >  no eigrp log-neighbor-changes
> > !
> > ip classless
> > ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 172.20.14.2
> > ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 172.21.14.2 200
> > no ip http server
> > !
> > dialer-list 1 pr

Good news and bad news [7:72026]

2003-07-08 Thread annlee
I recommend taking a look at this article
http://www.idg.net/ic_1325908_9677_1-5044.html

There is good news and bad news built into it. The bad news first: the tech
jobs that many of us in North America used to enter the IT world -- help
desk, small networks -- are consolidating and moving overseas for cost
reasons. Of course, that's good news for the folks overseas who are just
like us in all the important respects -- they're going to have more
opportunities to break in.

The good news for North America is in the last paragraph:

// Wasierski says one key to success is finding a competent integrator and
reviewing two of its recent implementations. In his case, the Cisco
integrator "had no idea what it was doing," partly because the technology
was so new. As a result, vCustomer had to scrap the integrator's work and
start over, building the entire system in-house. "That was a learning
experience," he says. //

The work in North America will be in the design and implementation of the
mixed networks. Those who can do the more complex, and deeper, integrations
will have work. This article should make clear why Cisco is shifting the
newer CCNP and CCDP exam tracks to include more VoIP, security, and IPv6. I
thought it was to push sales, and it probably is. But the products have a
compelling business case, which means I've got more stuff to learn, and the
same 24-hour day to do it in ;-).

Annlee




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CCDP requirements: pointless to do CID if you don't already [7:72027]

2003-07-08 Thread MCMORDIE Shane (BMB)
Hi,

I'm aiming at CCDP but I don't have BCRAN.   Am I correct in thinking
that there is no point in me registering for CID before registration
finally ends on July 25th - because to go this route to CCDP, BCRAN is
also needed - but is no longer available?

Therefore better for me to forget CID and go straight to ARCH?

Thanks,

Shane


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Re: ISDN Port goes to Deactivated mode [7:72022]

2003-07-08 Thread H T
Hi,
can you show us your running config of both sides, so we can know where
would be the problem?


cheers,
Heiman.



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> Dear all
> I am having 128 kbps Leased Line with ISDN backup.As
> the Link goes Down ,ISDN should trigger,however in my
> case the ISDN link does not come up and goes to
> deactivated mode.What could be the problem .I have
> seen that upon removing the ISDN link and inserting
> back it gives the status as ACTIVE.What could be the
> problm?
> Kindly help as I am not able to use backup link due to
> this reason.
>
> I have attached herewitht the log of sh isdn status
> command for your kind pwerusal
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards
>
>
> Piyush
>
> router-1#sh ISDN status
>
> ISDN BRI0 interface
> dsl 0, interface ISDN Switchtype = basic-net3
> Layer 1 Status:
> DEACTIVATED
> Layer 2 Status:
> TEI = 85, Ces = 1, SAPI = 0, State =
> TEI_ASSIGNED
> I_Queue_Len 0, UI_Queue_Len 0
> Layer 3 Status:
> 0 Active Layer 3 Call(s)
> Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 0
> The Free Channel Mask:  0x8003
> Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 0
>
> 
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New MPLS book [7:72029]

2003-07-08 Thread Muhtari Adanan
is it worth getting the new MPLS book (MPLS and VPN Architectures, Volume II
by Ivan & Jim)  for the CCIE C&S exams?
  



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Maximum segment size in TCP [7:72030]

2003-07-08 Thread kuma kk
Hello group,

I am facing slow response issue when connecting to Mainframe. This is how my 
connectivity goes

[EMAIL PROTECTED] A ---> FrameRelay(WAN) --> Location B ---> Site to Site VPN (T1) 
--> [EMAIL PROTECTED] C

I have captured the packet using ethereal and found that Source PC TCP 
Maximum Segment Size is 1456bytes and that of Mainframe is 4056bytes. This 
slow response issue with mainframe is intermittent. And there is no issue at 
the mainframe as it works fine when I connect from within the Location C

Source side there is no issue since for some other mainframe at Location D,  
I am getting good response and the Source PC MSS is 1456bytes and that of 
Mainframe MSS is 536bytes. The only difference in this connectivity is that 
this mainframe is connected using an framerealy from Location B to Location 
D (given below)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] A ---> FrameRelay(WAN) --> Location B ---> FrameRelay(WAN)--> 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] D

I would like to know whether the MSS Size of 4056bytes from mainframe in the 
Location C attributes to the slow reponse issue. Is the high MSS size is due 
to Site-to Site VPN from Location B to C( due to excess header information 
due to VPN)  or something else.

Would appreciate your response.

TIA,
Kum

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Re: New MPLS book [7:72029]

2003-07-08 Thread AK
the first edition whould be enough to pass the exam, but u will see u will
want to get the new book, cause it's a very interesting subject  it's (the
futur of networking)...



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II
> by Ivan & Jim)  for the CCIE C&S exams?




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RE: CCDP requirements: pointless to do CID if you don't already [7:72032]

2003-07-08 Thread George Murage
Hi,

You do not need BCRAN to be CCNP. Just BSCI, Switching and CID.

I am also trying to beat the 25th July deadline!

Please see:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/learning/le3/le2/le37/le5/learning_certification_
type_home.html


Thanks and regards
George Murage


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Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 5:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CCDP requirements: pointless to do CID if you don't already
[7:72027]

Hi,

I'm aiming at CCDP but I don't have BCRAN.   Am I correct in thinking
that there is no point in me registering for CID before registration
finally ends on July 25th - because to go this route to CCDP, BCRAN is
also needed - but is no longer available?

Therefore better for me to forget CID and go straight to ARCH?

Thanks,

Shane


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RE: Maximum segment size in TCP [7:72030]

2003-07-08 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
A host uses the TCP maximum segment size option to specify the max size of
TCP segments (packets) that it can accept. In the case where you have the
slow response time, the mainframe is saying that its max segment size is
4056 bytes, which means that it can accept packets of that size (with that
much payload). This is somewhat non-standard, but I doubt it would cause
slow response time.

Does the client really try to send such large packets? I doubt it. But
that's what you need to look at. How does the client react to the mainframe
saying that its MSS is 4056 bytes.

If the client is on Ethernet, it can't send such large packets. Also, what
sort of PC/mainframe application would try to send such large frames? Most
such applications would use much smaller packets. So I doubt that the MSS is
the problem
 
The major difference that stands out for the case where there's slow versus
good respons time is that the slow response is on a site-to-site VPN link
and the fast response is on a Frame Relay WAN.

What are the speeds of the two links?

I'm not a VPN expert, but I know that VPNs have a lot of overhead and can be
slow. Where is the tunneling and encryption happening? Are the devices that
are doing that slow?

If I were you, I would consider the MSS a misleading clue and focus on
telling us more about this slow VPN link. Thanks,

Priscilla



kuma kk wrote:
> 
> Hello group,
> 
> I am facing slow response issue when connecting to Mainframe.
> This is how my
> connectivity goes
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] A ---> FrameRelay(WAN) --> Location B ---> Site to
> Site VPN (T1)
> --> [EMAIL PROTECTED] C
> 
> I have captured the packet using ethereal and found that Source
> PC TCP
> Maximum Segment Size is 1456bytes and that of Mainframe is
> 4056bytes. This
> slow response issue with mainframe is intermittent. And there
> is no issue at
> the mainframe as it works fine when I connect from within the
> Location C
> 
> Source side there is no issue since for some other mainframe at
> Location D,
> I am getting good response and the Source PC MSS is 1456bytes
> and that of
> Mainframe MSS is 536bytes. The only difference in this
> connectivity is that
> this mainframe is connected using an framerealy from Location B
> to Location
> D (given below)
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] A ---> FrameRelay(WAN) --> Location B --->
> FrameRelay(WAN)-->
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] D
> 
> I would like to know whether the MSS Size of 4056bytes from
> mainframe in the
> Location C attributes to the slow reponse issue. Is the high
> MSS size is due
> to Site-to Site VPN from Location B to C( due to excess header
> information
> due to VPN)  or something else.
> 
> Would appreciate your response.
> 
> TIA,
> Kum
> 
> _
> Design your holidays. At your convenience. 
> http://www.flexihols.com/2003/index.php Click here.
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RE: ISDN Port goes to Deactivated mode [7:72022]

2003-07-08 Thread George Murage
I have experienced the same problem and would really like to see what the
others have to say.


While testing, I put my router with a BRI-1B-S/T card behind a PBX with an
NTI card and the problem vanished. 

This led me to believe that the problem has something to do with the telco.

I *think* the telco switch may not be able to detect, in a timely fashion
that your isdn line is active, because European ISDN switches normally
deactivate layer 1 or layer 2 of an idle isdn line.

Removing and re-inserting the cable sort of resets the layers 1 and 2. Has
the same effect as typing "clear int brix/y" on the router.

Regards
George Murage

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Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 5:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ISDN Port goes to Deactivated mode [7:72022]

Hi,
can you show us your running config of both sides, so we can know where
would be the problem?


cheers,
Heiman.



""Mr piyush shah""  wrote in message
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> Dear all
> I am having 128 kbps Leased Line with ISDN backup.As
> the Link goes Down ,ISDN should trigger,however in my
> case the ISDN link does not come up and goes to
> deactivated mode.What could be the problem .I have
> seen that upon removing the ISDN link and inserting
> back it gives the status as ACTIVE.What could be the
> problm?
> Kindly help as I am not able to use backup link due to
> this reason.
>
> I have attached herewitht the log of sh isdn status
> command for your kind pwerusal
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards
>
>
> Piyush
>
> router-1#sh ISDN status
>
> ISDN BRI0 interface
> dsl 0, interface ISDN Switchtype = basic-net3
> Layer 1 Status:
> DEACTIVATED
> Layer 2 Status:
> TEI = 85, Ces = 1, SAPI = 0, State =
> TEI_ASSIGNED
> I_Queue_Len 0, UI_Queue_Len 0
> Layer 3 Status:
> 0 Active Layer 3 Call(s)
> Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 0
> The Free Channel Mask:  0x8003
> Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 0
>
> 
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HSRP and IPSEC VPN [7:72034]

2003-07-08 Thread Dain Deutschman
Hi,

Does anyone know if HSRP would be appropriate in the following scenario?

ROUTERA with T1 to corporate office

ROUTERB with IPSEC VPN to Corporate only used as a backup path in case the
T1 on ROUTERA fails


Is there any reason that this will not work or has anyone had experience
with this type of situation?
-- 
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CCNP, CSS-1, MCP, CNA
Data Communications Manager
New Star Sales and Service, Inc.




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Re: HSRP and IPSEC VPN [7:72034]

2003-07-08 Thread Dain Deutschman
..that's what I thought...just needed a sanity check!

Thanks!


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> If router A anb B share an ethernet then sure HSRP was designed
> exactly for this scenerio
>
>Dave
>
> Dain Deutschman wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Does anyone know if HSRP would be appropriate in the following scenario?
> >
> > ROUTERA with T1 to corporate office
> >
> > ROUTERB with IPSEC VPN to Corporate only used as a backup path in case
the
> > T1 on ROUTERA fails
> >
> >
> > Is there any reason that this will not work or has anyone had experience
> > with this type of situation?
>
>
> -- 
> David Madland
> CCIE# 2016
> Sr. Network Engineer
> Qwest Communications
> 612-664-3367
>
> "Government can do something for the people only in proportion as it
> can do something to the people." -- Thomas Jefferson




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Re: HSRP and IPSEC VPN [7:72034]

2003-07-08 Thread MADMAN
If router A anb B share an ethernet then sure HSRP was designed 
exactly for this scenerio

   Dave

Dain Deutschman wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone know if HSRP would be appropriate in the following scenario?
> 
> ROUTERA with T1 to corporate office
> 
> ROUTERB with IPSEC VPN to Corporate only used as a backup path in case the
> T1 on ROUTERA fails
> 
> 
> Is there any reason that this will not work or has anyone had experience
> with this type of situation?


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Sr. Network Engineer
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612-664-3367

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RE: CCDP requirements: pointless to do CID if you don' [7:72027]

2003-07-08 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
MCMORDIE Shane (BMB) wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm aiming at CCDP but I don't have BCRAN.   Am I correct in
> thinking
> that there is no point in me registering for CID before
> registration
> finally ends on July 25th - because to go this route to CCDP,
> BCRAN is
> also needed - but is no longer available?

BCRAN is still available. It's still required for CCNP so it has to be
available. More here:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/lan/programs/ccnp.html

The real question is can you get CCDP without BCRAN even during this
transition period? At some point BCRAN won't be required for CCDP. Has that
started already? I think it has. You better ask Cisco and/or check your
progress on the tracking system to be sure, though.

Good luck!

Priscilla


> 
> Therefore better for me to forget CID and go straight to ARCH?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Shane
> 
> 
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RE: cisco back to back cable [7:71992]

2003-07-08 Thread DeVoe, Charles (PKI)
Perhaps a copy of the configs would be helpful here.

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Subject: cisco back to back cable [7:71992]


Dear All

I have a 2501 and 2505 and I am trying to set up a homelab..These 2 routers
come with a cable which is a DB60(DTE) and the other end is a DB60(DCE).This
is wat that is label on the cable. Anyway, I try to connect this cable to
the serial interface of the 2 routers...and both the routers are showing
serial is down and line protocol is down.

I guess I have used the wrong cable...or maybe I have missed out something.

Please comment..

Regards, kws




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Re: ISDN case... [7:72017]

2003-07-08 Thread ericbrouwers
Hi Heiman,

You won't get a bill: there won't be any ISDN layer 3 call: only your ISDN
bearer, so layer 1/2 will come up. Only when your serial goes down, an ISDN
call will be made and then you have to pay.

Eric

- Original Message -
From: "H T" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: ISDN case... [7:72017]


> Hi Eric,
> Thanks for what you wrote...
>
> I want the BRI just for a back up... so the line should stay down all the
> time when every thing is normal. I want the BRI come up only once the
serial
> go down " in this way we get small bill" :)
>
> how about the routing section ? did you had a look at?
>
>
> cheers,
> Heiman.
>
> ""ericbrouwers""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > This is normal behaviour: if you configure BRI as backup, it will go in
> > standby mode and line protocol goes down. You can avoid this by
> configuring
> > a dialer interface as backup. Then the dialer interface will go in
standby
> > mode, but the BRI stays up!! This is preferred since:
> > 1. some Telco's will lock out your line when it is too long down;
> > 2. you can easily detect if your backup goes down.
> > This won't give any surprises when you really need the backup!
> >
> > So replace this:
> > interface s0
> >backup interface bri0
> >
> > By following:
> > interface s0
> >backup interface dialer 1
> >
> > interface dialer 1
> >dialer pool 1
> >
> > interface bri0
> >dialer pool-member 1
> >
> > In your case I would try something like this:
> >
> > interface s0
> >ip address 172.20.14.1 255.255.255.252
> >backup interface dialer 1
> >
> > dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
> >
> > interface dialer 1
> >description Dialer to LDS
> >ip address 172.21.14.1 255.255.255.0
> >encapsulation ppp
> >ppp authentication chap
> >ppp chap password 7 1307161100191426222A23
> >dialer idle-timeout 750
> >dialer map ip 172.21.14.2 name LDS 23225374
> >dialer-group 1
> >dialer pool 1
> >
> > interface bri0
> >isdn switch-type basic-net3
> >encapsulation ppp
> >ppp authentication chap
> >ppp chap password 7 1307161100191426222A23
> >dialer pool-member 1
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Eric Brouwers
> >
> > PS
> > Be careful about moving all statements below BRI interface to dialer
> > interface. This is what Cisco says about it:
> >
> > "...Commands that apply before authentication is complete must be
> configured
> > on the physical (BRI) interface and not on the dialer profile. Dialer
> > profiles do not copy PPP authentication commands (or LCP commands) to
the
> > physical interface
> > .."
> >
> > I've never tried the most efficient configuration, that's why there is
> some
> > redundancy in the config above. Maybe someone else can comment about
> > removing the PPP encaps. and auth. commands from the dialer interface??
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "H T"
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:36 AM
> > Subject: ISDN case... [7:72017]
> >
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > > I have a problem with my ISDN back up link... the interface in STANDBY
> > mode.
> > >
> > >
> > > TBRS#sho inter bri0
> > > BRI0 is standby mode, line protocol is down
> > >   Hardware is PQUICC BRI
> > >   Description: Dialer to Lovisenberg
> > >   Internet address is 172.21.14.1/24
> > >   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 64 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
> > >  reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
> > >   Encapsulation PPP, loopback not set
> > >   Last input never, output never, output hang never
> > >   Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:39:45
> > >   Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops:
0
> > >   Queueing strategy: weighted fair
> > >   Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops)
> > >  Conversations  0/0/16 (active/max active/max total)
> > >  Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated)
> > >  Available Bandwidth 48 kilobits/sec
> > >   5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
> > >   5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
> > >  0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer
> > >  Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
> > >  0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
> > >  0 packets output, 0 bytes, 0 underruns
> > >  0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
> > >  0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
> > >  0 carrier transitions
> > >
> > >
> > > and the configuration is
> > >
> > > hostname TBRS
> > > !
> > > username LDS password 7 15100A0F0F3F3B28213D3E
> > > isdn switch-type basic-net3
> > > !
> > > interface BRI0
> > >  description Dialer to LDS
> > >  ip address 172.21.14.1 255.255.255.0
> > >  encapsulation ppp
> > >  dialer idle-timeout 750
> > >  dialer map ip 172.21.14.2 name LDS 23225374
> > >  dialer-group 1
> > >  isdn switch-type basic-net3
> > >  ppp authentication chap
> > >  ppp chap password 7 1307161100191426222

RE: Maximum segment size in TCP [7:72030]

2003-07-08 Thread mccloud mike
I have seen a similar issue with a VPN connection. The problem was caused
when an NT admin wrote a batch file that did a large FTP across the link
every 45 minutes. The large volume of traffic caused the router cpu to spike
due to the encryp/decryp load… hence slow performance.

I would try to check to see if there is a large amount of traffic on the VPN
when you are experiencing slow response.

Mike

kuma kk wrote:
> 
> Hello group,
> 
> I am facing slow response issue when connecting to Mainframe.
> This is how my
> connectivity goes
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] A ---> FrameRelay(WAN) --> Location B ---> Site to
> Site VPN (T1)
> --> [EMAIL PROTECTED] C
> 
> I have captured the packet using ethereal and found that Source
> PC TCP
> Maximum Segment Size is 1456bytes and that of Mainframe is
> 4056bytes. This
> slow response issue with mainframe is intermittent. And there
> is no issue at
> the mainframe as it works fine when I connect from within the
> Location C
> 
> Source side there is no issue since for some other mainframe at
> Location D,
> I am getting good response and the Source PC MSS is 1456bytes
> and that of
> Mainframe MSS is 536bytes. The only difference in this
> connectivity is that
> this mainframe is connected using an framerealy from Location B
> to Location
> D (given below)
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] A ---> FrameRelay(WAN) --> Location B --->
> FrameRelay(WAN)-->
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] D
> 
> I would like to know whether the MSS Size of 4056bytes from
> mainframe in the
> Location C attributes to the slow reponse issue. Is the high
> MSS size is due
> to Site-to Site VPN from Location B to C( due to excess header
> information
> due to VPN)  or something else.
> 
> Would appreciate your response.
> 
> TIA,
> Kum
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Re: ISDN Port goes to Deactivated mode [7:72022]

2003-07-08 Thread ericbrouwers
Probably layer 1 and 2 are deactivated by the Telco. It's better to use a
dialer interface as backup of a serial line. Then L1/2 stays up. Refer to
other ISDN thread as well.

If you don't want to do that, try to change the TEI negotiation. Cisco's
default is TEI negotiation when the router is powered up. TEI negotiation
also happens when you reset your interface.

So try to configure TEI negotiation on first call for your backup interface
only:

interface bri0
   isdn tei first-call

When the serial goes down, the backup makes its first calls and trigger TEI
negotiation.

I hope ...

Let me know,

Eric Brouwers


- Original Message -
From: "George Murage" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:52 PM
Subject: RE: ISDN Port goes to Deactivated mode [7:72022]


> I have experienced the same problem and would really like to see what the
> others have to say.
>
>
> While testing, I put my router with a BRI-1B-S/T card behind a PBX with an
> NTI card and the problem vanished.
>
> This led me to believe that the problem has something to do with the
telco.
>
> I *think* the telco switch may not be able to detect, in a timely fashion
> that your isdn line is active, because European ISDN switches normally
> deactivate layer 1 or layer 2 of an idle isdn line.
>
> Removing and re-inserting the cable sort of resets the layers 1 and 2. Has
> the same effect as typing "clear int brix/y" on the router.
>
> Regards
> George Murage
>
> -Original Message-
> From: H T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 5:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ISDN Port goes to Deactivated mode [7:72022]
>
> Hi,
> can you show us your running config of both sides, so we can know where
> would be the problem?
>
>
> cheers,
> Heiman.
>
>
>
> ""Mr piyush shah""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Dear all
> > I am having 128 kbps Leased Line with ISDN backup.As
> > the Link goes Down ,ISDN should trigger,however in my
> > case the ISDN link does not come up and goes to
> > deactivated mode.What could be the problem .I have
> > seen that upon removing the ISDN link and inserting
> > back it gives the status as ACTIVE.What could be the
> > problm?
> > Kindly help as I am not able to use backup link due to
> > this reason.
> >
> > I have attached herewitht the log of sh isdn status
> > command for your kind pwerusal
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > Piyush
> >
> > router-1#sh ISDN status
> >
> > ISDN BRI0 interface
> > dsl 0, interface ISDN Switchtype = basic-net3
> > Layer 1 Status:
> > DEACTIVATED
> > Layer 2 Status:
> > TEI = 85, Ces = 1, SAPI = 0, State =
> > TEI_ASSIGNED
> > I_Queue_Len 0, UI_Queue_Len 0
> > Layer 3 Status:
> > 0 Active Layer 3 Call(s)
> > Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 0
> > The Free Channel Mask:  0x8003
> > Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 0
> >
> > 
> > Send free SMS using the Yahoo! Messenger. Go to
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RE: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-08 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
hebn wrote:
> 
> hello,everyone:

>OSPF use raw socket (datagram) to communicate with peers. In
> general, layer 2 frame has a MTU of 1500 bytes.
>how does cisco router propagate router-lsa whose size exceed
> 1500 bytes(more than 122 links in one area)?

Well, I don't have a definite answer, but I'll discuss it with you in the
hopes of lighting a fire under one of the OSPF experts on this list. Howard?
Chuck? Peter? Where's Pamela when we need her? :-)

OSPF runs directly above IP. I don't know if that could be called "raw
socket" which is a UNIX thing? My perception is that with Cisco IOS, OSPF
calls IP with a set of parameters and lets IP handle the rest. So maybe
that's sort of raw.

I can say this: The OSPF packets I have seen coming out of Cisco routers
have the IP fragmentation bit set to "May Fragment." This makes me think
that Cisco's OSPF relies on IP to push the bytes into the data-link-layer
frame and fragment if necessary.

The OSPF RFC (RFC 2178) says this:

"OSPF does not define a way to fragment its protocol packets, and depends on
IP fragmentation when transmitting packets larger than the network MTU. If
necessary, the length of OSPF packets can be up to 65,535 bytes (including
the IP header). The OSPF packet types that are likely to be large (Database
Description Packets, Link State Request, Link State Update, and Link State
Acknowledgment packets) can usually be split into several separate protocol
packets, without loss of functionality. This is recommended; IP
fragmentation should be avoided whenever possible."

Unfortunately, that's not very clear. It implies that the recommended method
is for OSPF to split its own protocol packets. But that the method for doing
this is undefined and that's OK because OSPF can depend on IP to do
fragmentation.

Cisco routers tell each other their MTU in database description packets, per
RFC 2178. Until recently, if the routers didn't agree on the MTU, they
wouldn't become adjacent. A recent IOS version supports telling a router to
ignore the other side's MTU so they can still become adjacent.

That doesn't answer your question, but maybe there are some hints in the
article that discusse the "ip ospf mtu-ignore" feature here:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/104/12.html

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RE: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-08 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 9:38 PM + 7/8/03, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
>hebn wrote:
>>
>>  hello,everyone:
>
>> OSPF use raw socket (datagram) to communicate with peers. In
>  > general, layer 2 frame has a MTU of 1500 bytes.

I'm not sure I'd call it a strict datagram protocol. In some cases, 
it's acknowledged datagram, either directly or indirectly 
acknowledged.  In other cases, such as database initialization, 
there's clearly a connection -- just not a TCP connection.

>  >how does cisco router propagate router-lsa whose size exceed
>>  1500 bytes(more than 122 links in one area)?
>
>Well, I don't have a definite answer, but I'll discuss it with you in the
>hopes of lighting a fire under one of the OSPF experts on this list. Howard?
>Chuck? Peter? Where's Pamela when we need her? :-)

It's fairly simple in Wellfleet/Bay/Nortel code -- you send multiple 
LSAs. There's nothing that says all the database entries of one type 
have to fit in the same LSupdate.  Certainly, in a large area, there 
will need to be more than one LSupdate to convey all the Type 2 LSAs.

>
>OSPF runs directly above IP. I don't know if that could be called "raw
>socket" which is a UNIX thing? My perception is that with Cisco IOS, OSPF
>calls IP with a set of parameters and lets IP handle the rest. So maybe
>that's sort of raw.

I'd have to go look at Moy's or another UNIX based implementation to 
see how the calling is done. IOS is not UNIX based. Several other 
vendor implementations run a realtime OS such as VXworks.

>
>I can say this: The OSPF packets I have seen coming out of Cisco routers
>have the IP fragmentation bit set to "May Fragment." This makes me think
>that Cisco's OSPF relies on IP to push the bytes into the data-link-layer
>frame and fragment if necessary.
>
>The OSPF RFC (RFC 2178) says this:
>
>"OSPF does not define a way to fragment its protocol packets, and depends on
>IP fragmentation when transmitting packets larger than the network MTU. If
>necessary, the length of OSPF packets can be up to 65,535 bytes (including
>the IP header). The OSPF packet types that are likely to be large (Database
>Description Packets, Link State Request, Link State Update, and Link State
>Acknowledgment packets) can usually be split into several separate protocol
>packets, without loss of functionality. This is recommended; IP
>fragmentation should be avoided whenever possible."
>
>Unfortunately, that's not very clear. It implies that the recommended method
>is for OSPF to split its own protocol packets. But that the method for doing
>this is undefined and that's OK because OSPF can depend on IP to do
>fragmentation.

Fragmentation gets scary when you are doing real-time control plane traffic.

>
>Cisco routers tell each other their MTU in database description packets, per
>RFC 2178. Until recently, if the routers didn't agree on the MTU, they
>wouldn't become adjacent. A recent IOS version supports telling a router to
>ignore the other side's MTU so they can still become adjacent.
>
>That doesn't answer your question, but maybe there are some hints in the
>article that discusse the "ip ospf mtu-ignore" feature here:
>
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/104/12.html




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Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-08 Thread Zsombor Papp
The LSA will be fragmented at the IP layer.

Thanks,

Zsombor

At 11:39 AM 7/8/2003 +, hebn wrote:
>layer 2 frame has a MTU of 1500 bytes.
>how does cisco router propagate router-lsa whose size exceed 1500
>bytes(more than 122 links in one area)?




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Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-08 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 10:46 PM + 7/8/03, Zsombor Papp wrote:
>The LSA will be fragmented at the IP layer.

Do you know for certain this is what Cisco's implementation does? 
The OSPF code is aware of the MTU and can build OSPF packets for it. 
I don't think you're really going to simplify it by relieving it of 
the need to keep track of lengths.

On the other hand, if you send a LSupdate that is at the MTU, the 
receiving router can immediately start checking and installing it in 
the LSDB, without waiting for fragments. This allows some concurrency 
between OSPF packet transmission and OSPF protocol processing.

>At 11:39 AM 7/8/2003 +, hebn wrote:
>>layer 2 frame has a MTU of 1500 bytes.
>> how does cisco router propagate router-lsa whose size exceed 1500
>  >bytes(more than 122 links in one area)?




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Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-08 Thread Zsombor Papp
The original question (as I understood) was about a single LSA that is 
larger than 1500 bytes (think Type 1 LSA for a router with 200 interfaces). 
I can't see how such an LSA could be divided into multiple OSPF messages so 
the only logical (implementation independent) solution seems to be to 
fragment the packet at the IP layer. Am I missing something?

If you are asking about how LSAs that are individually smaller than 1500 
byte are grouped together, then my (moderately educated :) answer is this: 
IOS defines a constant called MAXOSPFPACKETSIZE to be 1500 bytes and 
another constant called MAX_OSPF_DATA to be MAXOSPFPACKETSIZE - 
IPHEADERBYTES - OSPF_HDR_SIZE. The code that transmits the LSAs keeps 
packing the LSAs into the same packet as long as their total length is 
below MAX_OSPF_DATA, the net result being that the size of the IP packet 
can be up to 1500 bytes (and will in fact be close to it if the individual 
LSAs are not too big) if there are enough LSAs, regardless of the MTU. So 
for example if you set the IP MTU on an Ethernet interface to 500 bytes, 
and you have a large enough OSPF database, then you should see a lot of 
fragmented OSPF packets, regardless of how big the individual LSAs are.

I didn't write the code though, so take all this with a grain of salt. :)

Thanks,

Zsombor

At 12:40 AM 7/9/2003 +, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
>At 10:46 PM + 7/8/03, Zsombor Papp wrote:
> >The LSA will be fragmented at the IP layer.
>
>Do you know for certain this is what Cisco's implementation does?
>The OSPF code is aware of the MTU and can build OSPF packets for it.
>I don't think you're really going to simplify it by relieving it of
>the need to keep track of lengths.
>
>On the other hand, if you send a LSupdate that is at the MTU, the
>receiving router can immediately start checking and installing it in
>the LSDB, without waiting for fragments. This allows some concurrency
>between OSPF packet transmission and OSPF protocol processing.
>
> >At 11:39 AM 7/8/2003 +, hebn wrote:
> >>layer 2 frame has a MTU of 1500 bytes.
> >> how does cisco router propagate router-lsa whose size exceed 1500
> >  >bytes(more than 122 links in one area)?




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Re: OSPF max Router-LSA links [7:72024]

2003-07-08 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
> 
> At 10:46 PM + 7/8/03, Zsombor Papp wrote:
> >The LSA will be fragmented at the IP layer.
> 
> Do you know for certain this is what Cisco's implementation
> does?
> The OSPF code is aware of the MTU and can build OSPF packets
> for it.
> I don't think you're really going to simplify it by relieving
> it of
> the need to keep track of lengths.

Can you think of a good way to test it in a lab??

The RFC says that dividing up the updates is recomended over letting IP do
the fragmentation and Cisco is generally good at doing things the
recommended way usually.

Priscilla


> 
> On the other hand, if you send a LSupdate that is at the MTU,
> the
> receiving router can immediately start checking and installing
> it in
> the LSDB, without waiting for fragments. This allows some
> concurrency
> between OSPF packet transmission and OSPF protocol processing.
> 
> >At 11:39 AM 7/8/2003 +, hebn wrote:
> >>layer 2 frame has a MTU of 1500 bytes.
> >> how does cisco router propagate router-lsa whose size
> exceed 1500
> >  >bytes(more than 122 links in one area)?
> 
> 




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