Cisco BGP Exam [7:73516]

2003-08-11 Thread juniper
Hi,
Can anyone recommend a good book for the BGP exam
Mark




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Wed funny [7:73629]

2003-08-11 Thread annlee
From a post on NANOG:

quote:
Are there any XXX employees here?

There exists an intermittent problem on your network which occurs 
every
night at 12:04am central time.  I've pinned it down to where it 
lies, but
everytime I call your support department, I just get someone who 
does not
understand.  In fact, one lady told me sternly Sir, we do not 
have any
routers.

Please contact me off list and I'll shoot you the relevant info 
(background,
traceroutes, etc).
end quote

I guess that would explain many problems...

Annlee




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Networkers 2002 PDFs [7:73522]

2003-08-11 Thread YASSER ALY
Dear All,

  Anybody knows the URL to download Cisco networkers 2002 PDFs

Are PDFs for 2003 available for download ?

Regards,
Yasser

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Re: IPv6 in the Enterprise Network [7:73667]

2003-08-11 Thread annlee
One reason is if you work with the US DoD or interconnect with 
them in any way:

http://www.fcw.com/fcw/articles/2003/0609/web-dodip-06-13-03.asp

Annlee

John Neiberger wrote:
 And I don't mean the Starship Enterprise.  :-)  I'm pretty sure they do use
 IPng, though.
 
 Seriously, regarding IPv6. Who's currently migrating to it? Any enterprise
 networks that aren't providers of some sort?
 
 I'm going to assume that at some unknown point in the future IPv6 will
 finally push IPv4 completely off the radar. Any guesses about how long
we'll
 be waiting for that day to come? Other than for the intellectual enjoyment
 of it, is there any reason why Joe or Jane Engineer should really start
 learning IPv6 right now?
 
 Regards,
 John
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RE: PIX License upgrade procedure [7:73769]

2003-08-11 Thread Wilmes, Rusty
h - how long has it been free ?
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From: Joshua Vince
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Sent: 8/11/2003 4:04 AM
Subject: RE: PIX License upgrade procedure [7:73769]

It is free now.

http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Software/FormManager/formgenerator.pl

You will need a CCO login.

Josh

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Subject: PIX License upgrade procedure [7:73769]


Hi ,

I just need to know what is the procedure if I want to upgrade my PIX
license to enable VPN-3DES feature (which is presently disabled). Either
thru CCO or by the mean of TAC case with Cisco ?? Is it free from Cisco
or chargeable ??

Many thanks in advance

Thnx

Hitesh


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RE: what are ip directed-broadcast and ip mroute-c [7:73808]

2003-08-11 Thread Lesly Verdier
Thanks Fred,

your explanation is very clear.

Lesly

Reimer, Fred wrote:
 
 IP Directed Broadcast - used to send a directed broadcast packet,  or a
 packet to a whole remote subnet.  For instance, say you have
 your
 workstation management software on subnet 10.1.1.0/24, and you
 have three
 remote subnets 10.1.2.0/24, 10.1.3.0/24, and 10.1.4.0/24.  The
 workstations
 have client software on them, so that the management software
 can poll for
 configuration changes, push registry entries, etc.  You could
 have all of
 the clients poll the server, but you may want to push a
 change also.  How
 could you do this?  Well, you could ping all ~ 768 IP addresses
 to find each
 client, or you could send a directed broadcast to each of the
 three subnets,
 10.1.2.255, 10.1.3.255, and 10.1.4.255, and all workstations
 would receive
 it (and hopefully reply).
 
 IP mroute cache - well, that would be the multicast routing
 table cache,
 just like the ip-route-cache unicast cache.  Kind of like fast
 switching for
 multicast traffic...
 
 HTH,
 
 Fred Reimer - CCNA
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Iwan Hoogendoorn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 9:25 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: what are ip directed-broadcast and ip mroute-cache
 [7:73800]
 
 Can someone explain me what this is for and what is does?
 
 
 ip directed-broadcast
 ip mroute-cache
 
 Thank You 
 
 Iwan 



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RE: what are ip directed-broadcast and ip mroute-c [7:73808]

2003-08-11 Thread Lesly Verdier
Thanks Fred,

your explanation is very clear.

Lesly

Reimer, Fred wrote:
 
 IP Directed Broadcast - used to send a directed broadcast packet,  or a
 packet to a whole remote subnet.  For instance, say you have
 your
 workstation management software on subnet 10.1.1.0/24, and you
 have three
 remote subnets 10.1.2.0/24, 10.1.3.0/24, and 10.1.4.0/24.  The
 workstations
 have client software on them, so that the management software
 can poll for
 configuration changes, push registry entries, etc.  You could
 have all of
 the clients poll the server, but you may want to push a
 change also.  How
 could you do this?  Well, you could ping all ~ 768 IP addresses
 to find each
 client, or you could send a directed broadcast to each of the
 three subnets,
 10.1.2.255, 10.1.3.255, and 10.1.4.255, and all workstations
 would receive
 it (and hopefully reply).
 
 IP mroute cache - well, that would be the multicast routing
 table cache,
 just like the ip-route-cache unicast cache.  Kind of like fast
 switching for
 multicast traffic...
 
 HTH,
 
 Fred Reimer - CCNA
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Iwan Hoogendoorn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 9:25 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: what are ip directed-broadcast and ip mroute-cache
 [7:73800]
 
 Can someone explain me what this is for and what is does?
 
 
 ip directed-broadcast
 ip mroute-cache
 
 Thank You 
 
 Iwan 
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RE: multiple ospf processes route insertion [7:73727]

2003-08-11 Thread p b
Here's some more detail.

Yes, assume the destination address (networks) represent
the corresponding service.

This is an existing production network where OSPF and iBGP are
already in use for the existing (single) service.  OSPF carries
p2p and loopbacks; iBGP carries customer end-point networks.

We want to overlay two other services.  The paths the packets
take to their destination, even if hosted on the same router,
will be different.   Further, when there's a failure in the
network, the manner in which traffic gets re-routed will be
specific to each service.

An example might help.  Consider some router R1 in this network.
It has several connections to other routers in the network.  It
also has three interfaces each with a network assigned to it.
Lets call these networks A, B and C and each is for a different
service.   Under normal conditions, traffic to A comes in via
interface I1 and traffic to B and C comes in via interface I2.
Now assume I2 fails.  Traffic for A and B should come in over I1
and traffic to C stops being delivered. 

ACLs won't work in this situation for a number of reasons.  Besides
the configuration and operational issues, another requirement is 
that the end-points generating traffic to destinations in C 
will want to know when C is unavailable via I2.  They'll want to
know this so they can stop generating traffic or leverage some
higher level (service specific) mechanism to address the failure.

Running BGP as the IGP might work, but I'm not sure.  I think it
might need to operate in iBGP mode and I think it would require
lots of policy filters on all outgoing advertisements and would
probably require setting the next hop at each router.   These are
both typically not done when operating in iBGP mode.  Further,
I think one would lose the concept of IGP cost; the iBGP mechanism
might allow one to construct a path between two end-points which
satisfies the service policy, but if multiple paths exist, the
concept of link cost would not be available.I guess running
eBGP as the IGP could also work, but now we're talking configuring
a unique AS for each router (which doesn't scale).  One could see
the path selected through the network via the AS_PATH attribute,
but there still would be no concept of IGP cost.  

I've not come up with a way to solve this without moving to 
a model where theres an IGP and thus SPT for each service,
which implies multiple OSPF processes.  

But I'm interested in other thoughts or options on this...



Zsombor Papp wrote:
 
 Since you say you want to run one OSPF process for each traffic
 type, I assume the type of the traffic is defined by
 destination IP address. If this is not correct, then I would be
 curious to know what a traffic type is and how you will
 associate a traffic type with an OSPF process.
 
 If however my assumption is correct, then I can see several
 ways to solve the problem you cited as an example, with BGP or
 with a single OSPF process.
 
 Let me restate the problem for N=1: suppose there are 3
 routers, R1, R2, R3, connected in a triangle. Both traffic A
 and B usually go directly from R1 to R2, but when that link
 fails, traffic A should go from R1 to R3 to R2, and traffic B
 should be dropped at R1.
 
 Solution with BGP: run BGP between R1-R2 and R1-R3, make the
 routes coming from R2 preferred, and filter out the routes
 corresponding to traffic B from the advertisements R3 sends to
 R1.
 
 Solution with single OSPF process: configure an access list on
 the link between R1-R3 that drops traffic B. :)
 
 Of course I might be missing something, so feel free to point
 out why these wouldn't work in your case.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Zsombor
 
 p b wrote:
  
  
  Using multiple processes might provide a way to implement
  policy at the link level.   Typically, when one thinks of
  policy,
  one thinks of BGP.  But what if your policy requires the
 ability
  to control what traffic can or can't go over a particular
  link?  For example, consider two routers, that are
  interconnected
  by a direct link and a N-hop L3 path.  Suppose traffic types
  A and B should typically go over the direct link but, if the
  direct link fails, traffic type A should be routed over the
  N-hop L3 path and traffic type B should not be forwarded.
  
  I don't believe there's a way to get this level of policy from
  a single OSPF process or a single OSPF process coupled with
 BGP.
  
  However, if you run multiple OSPF processes, say one for each
  interesting traffic type, and if you use BGP to set a
 network's
  next-hop to match the right OSPF RID, and for each link define
  a sub-interface (or not) for each OSPF process, then I think
 the
  above routing requirements might be supported. 
  
  MPLS might work here, but I'm not sure.  
  
  
  
  
  
  Suppose you have certain types
  of traffic that
  
  Zsombor Papp wrote:
   
   What are you trying to achieve with these ~3 OSPF routing
   processes?
   
   Thanks,
   
   Zsombor
   
   p b wrote:

 

RE: VPN Best Hardware to use? [7:73793]

2003-08-11 Thread Reimer, Fred
I'd consider the 3005 at the remote sites.  It has the capability to do a
LAN-to-LAN NAT, where if you had customer A and customer B that both used
10.1.x you could map them to 45.1 and 45.2 respectively, or any other
equal-mask network.

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Subject: VPN Best Hardware to use? [7:73793]

I need to setup VPNs to about 2000 sites.  Each site will have an IDSL line
installed that will be used to connect to monitor network devices and
servers.  Some of the remote networks will be using the same network block. 
I am looking to know what the best hardware to use on each end is.  On my
end, would it be better to use a PIX or a 3030?  On the remote end, I was
looking at a PIX 501, SOHO 91 or the 831?


Thank you


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RE: How to study..Self or Classes [7:73624]

2003-08-11 Thread Reimer, Fred
I'm taking the KnowledgeNet courses (Express /w mentor).  Spent about a week
on each of the routing and switching courses in my spare time and passed
both.  I got hung up in other work stuff for the remote access and
troubleshooting courses, so have not taken those tests yet.  The material is
good, but there are errors in it.  90% of the questions I had for mentors
were corrections to the material...

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From: Paul Ingram [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to study..Self or Classes [7:73624]

Hello,
I have a simple question.  Has anyone used Knowledgenet for thee CCNP cert?

I have put together the following lab and I am not sure I should go for the
classes or just do the self pace thing.  Also if I self pace I am not sure I
will be able to get the new exam materal.  Does anyone know if CISCo Press
is going to put it out?  I heard they where not.  I guess there is SYBEX. 
Are they good?

Lab and thing i have missed please let me know:
2 - Cisco 2610 Router, 64/16
2 - Cisco NM-1V 1-Slot Voice Network Module
2 - VIC-2FXS 2-Port Voice Interface Card
1 - WIC-1B-S/T 1-Port ISDN/BRI WAN Interface Card (for the 2610)
1 - WIC-1B-U 1-Port ISDN/BRI WAN Interface Card (for the 2610)
1 - Vconsole 4 port 2S/T-2U ISDN Simulator (all 4 can be used at once)
1 - 2511 16/16
1 - 2503 16/16
1 - 2507 16/16
2 - Cisco 4500M Router
2 - Cisco NP-1A One-Port OC3 ATM Module
2 - Cisco NP-4T Four-Port Serial Module
2 - Cisco NP-2E One-Port Ethernet Module
2 - AGS+ with 6 Ethernet, 4 serial, 2 token ring, 2 FDDI ports each (still
trying to fiuge out the type of DCE DTE cables to use on the AGS+..Any
Help?)
1 - Cisco WS-C1912 Switch
1 - 3550
1 - 2950
1 - 1201
7 - PII 400 256mb ram 10gb HDD systems.  OS anything from Windows 2003 Adv
Server to Linux.
1 - System config with Smoothwall as a firewall (3 Nics)

Thanks,
~Paul~
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RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ....... A BEAST ???? [7:73770]

2003-08-11 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G
Just so you know, there are companies out there that refund your money if
you don't pass the first time.

Shawn K.

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From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 10:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST  [7:73770]

Boson's guarantee is if you fail Twice within 90 days after purchasing the
practice exam. So if you fail once and pass the second time you won't get
you $40 back.

I didn't do the new CCDA but I did the CCDP/CCNP recerts just a while ago.

As the CCDA is only an one exam test, it might not bother you if you miss
your deadline.

However, if your company needs your certification for their Partner
designation then I would suggest studying for a week, taking it around the
21st and if you fail you have time to recover, study the material you think
you had issues with and then retake the exam.

Cisco exam retakes require a 72 hour wait so in your case don't take the
exam on the  26th since that would take you into the weekend.  We don't have
any exam centers here that are open on the weekend.  If you do then your
latest date for a first attempt would be the 27th.  Best call Prometric to
confirm when a retake is possible.

As I said, taking an $150 test just to see it might seem more expensive than
the Boson but if you need it then in my opinion its a cost of doing
business - and besides you would have to spend $300 anyway to get your $40
back from Boson.

If this is a personal cert then I wouldn't personally worry about it.
Take it when you feel that you're prepared. (unless you don't want to change
your resume...)

Kevin Wigle

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To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 8:10 AM
Subject: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST  [7:73770]


 Group,

 Have been reading a lot lately on this new CCDA exam here and on
 brainbuzz.com? Is it really a beast?  Can any one concur?

 Most seemed to have failed the first time even though they had all the
 right materials/books? What is the reason? I myself need to take this
 exam before Sept.1st and kind of getting scared regarding this exam.!!
 Why should it be more difficult than the CID exam? The CID exam was
 pretty straighforward.

 Can Boson help here.?? Boson guarantees that you will pass the exam if
 you buy their exam??

 Any one??
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RE: BGP and QOS Beta exams [7:73599]

2003-08-11 Thread Peter Walker
--On 07 August 2003 02:50 + Mwalie W  wrote:


 Yes, you will have to begin chasing VUE and Cisco.


Thanks, that is what I thought



 Good Luck! You must be a very patient person:-) And this is also the
 reason I do not like Beta exams now.


Actually, I am very impatient.  Which is why I try to make a point of only 
doing Beta's when I dont need the exam, and then trying to ensure I 
forget about the exam. I really had put the exams out of my mind until I 
saw a couple of groupstudy messages in which people mentioned the results.

I dont think there is a problem with my address as I have received results 
for CCIE Beta qualification exams I took before and after the QOS and BGP 
exams.

Peter




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RE: VPN Best Hardware to use? [7:73793] LITTLE OT: [7:73793]

2003-08-11 Thread Truman, Michelle, RTSLS
Advantis is actually now called AGNS for ATT Global Network (Was the
IBM Global Network after it was Advantis). You can get VPN's on just
about any remote client you like, from Cisco to Nortel to Checkpoint to
ATT proprietary Netgate boxes which are derived from Linux OS. You also
can run the VPN over the IP backbone for dedicated or DSL connections.
AGNS is mainly a dial/ISDN/Broadband platform now. We actually don't
support 83x Cisco boxes yet because the Netgates have been so popular,
but it's under development. 

Massive IOS upgrades were already done because pretty much everything we
do is automated because of scale requirements. 

Personally speaking, I like the 3000 Concentrator at the headend with
Netgate at the client site. that is the most flexible and affordable
configuration. 

Michelle

Michelle Truman   CCIE # 8098
Principal Technical Consultant
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Subject: RE: VPN Best Hardware to use? [7:73793] LITTLE OT: [7:73883]


Why thanks!  I only have a CCNA now because I had to get it for our
partner
level, and I'm supposed to get much more.  And I only have it on my sig
because I use the same sig for work and work-related lists.

You are correct that we would need more details if it is anything other
than
what I think it is.  If it is just a small service, cookie cutter type
deal,
then I don't see why they can't use a cookie cutter type solution.
Being in
healthcare, I envision something like Blue Cross/ Blue Shield payer
connections, where I think they use the IBM Advantis network (is that
what
it was called?  Who owns them now, ATT?  Yep, they purchased them in
1999
for $5B) and have routers at each customer site.  Why not replace them
with
a cookie cutter type connection?  They already have connections to each
customer, likely on a DMZ.  The communication is just patient financial
information (claims) between one host system at a hospital and a system
at
BC/BS.  ATT certainly uses a cookie-cutter type connection for all of
their
connections (wonder if they upgraded all of those thousands of routers
for
the IOS patch).  There may be a one-off here and there, but for the VAST
majority of situations it's the same.  Same for ISP's.  You think they
have
custom connections for each T1 line they install?  Stick a this type
router
here and a that type router there?  No, unless a customer has a special
need, like shadow T3's as we do, then you're not going to get special
treatment.

At least that's my take on it.  So as to reduce complexity,
administration,
maintenance, and increase scalability, security, stability, I'd attempt
at
all cost to have a standard configuration.  Even if it cost a bit more.
The
3000 series may not be the answer, because we don't know the true
requirements, but whatever the answer is I'd attempt to standardize on
it.

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Subject: RE: VPN Best Hardware to use? [7:73793] LITTLE OT:

Fred, I respect you. You are one of the top repliers at the moment,
terms of
qual and freq. I am learning a lot from you, between work en heavy (i
mean
heavy) cramming an typing for my coming lab. And I mean it. I get a
laugh
out of your, Fred, (ccna) and answering ccie level qa!


More than one platform depending on req's MAYBE also deployment costs,
EOL
(800 806-820's-830's series spinning like crazy, 501 here to stay, vpn
hw
client okay.)

Please stop because we're fishing, we need facts.

RYAN,

Please give us a list of req's. 

When you design 10-20 sites you ask for a box.
When you design 2000 sites you design a total solution.

Management of 
- config, 
- change, 
- security, 
- availability, 
- performance and 
- capacity. 

I am sure I forgot one.
You catch my drift?
I am also curious about service offered, need front-end? back-end?
DMZ's?
etc. 

Learnt as designer consultant etc that if you make a quicky of business
req's you'll pay afterwards, because it is not what customer had hoped
for

Trusted -untrusted client sites.

Martijn 

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Verzonden: maandag 

RE: VPN Best Hardware to use? [7:73793] LITTLE OT: [7:73793]

2003-08-11 Thread Reimer, Fred
Wow, I guess I'm dating myself a little there if that many changes have
happened.  I don't believe there were that many options, if any, in the
original network.  Glad to see things have changed.

More on-topic, I just took the CSVPN test and just squeezed by.  Note to
self, make sure you study for a test before taking one ;-)  I went through
the KnowledgeNet Express course like a week or two ago, but didn't study
this weekend.  Probably not a good practice.  I'll have to remember that one
later...

Fred Reimer - CCNA


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From: Truman, Michelle, RTSLS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: RE: VPN Best Hardware to use? [7:73793] LITTLE OT: [7:73883]

Advantis is actually now called AGNS for ATT Global Network (Was the
IBM Global Network after it was Advantis). You can get VPN's on just
about any remote client you like, from Cisco to Nortel to Checkpoint to
ATT proprietary Netgate boxes which are derived from Linux OS. You also
can run the VPN over the IP backbone for dedicated or DSL connections.
AGNS is mainly a dial/ISDN/Broadband platform now. We actually don't
support 83x Cisco boxes yet because the Netgates have been so popular,
but it's under development. 

Massive IOS upgrades were already done because pretty much everything we
do is automated because of scale requirements. 

Personally speaking, I like the 3000 Concentrator at the headend with
Netgate at the client site. that is the most flexible and affordable
configuration. 

Michelle

Michelle Truman   CCIE # 8098
Principal Technical Consultant
ATT Solutions Center
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Why thanks!  I only have a CCNA now because I had to get it for our
partner
level, and I'm supposed to get much more.  And I only have it on my sig
because I use the same sig for work and work-related lists.

You are correct that we would need more details if it is anything other
than
what I think it is.  If it is just a small service, cookie cutter type
deal,
then I don't see why they can't use a cookie cutter type solution.
Being in
healthcare, I envision something like Blue Cross/ Blue Shield payer
connections, where I think they use the IBM Advantis network (is that
what
it was called?  Who owns them now, ATT?  Yep, they purchased them in
1999
for $5B) and have routers at each customer site.  Why not replace them
with
a cookie cutter type connection?  They already have connections to each
customer, likely on a DMZ.  The communication is just patient financial
information (claims) between one host system at a hospital and a system
at
BC/BS.  ATT certainly uses a cookie-cutter type connection for all of
their
connections (wonder if they upgraded all of those thousands of routers
for
the IOS patch).  There may be a one-off here and there, but for the VAST
majority of situations it's the same.  Same for ISP's.  You think they
have
custom connections for each T1 line they install?  Stick a this type
router
here and a that type router there?  No, unless a customer has a special
need, like shadow T3's as we do, then you're not going to get special
treatment.

At least that's my take on it.  So as to reduce complexity,
administration,
maintenance, and increase scalability, security, stability, I'd attempt
at
all cost to have a standard configuration.  Even if it cost a bit more.
The
3000 series may not be the answer, because we don't know the true
requirements, but whatever the answer is I'd attempt to standardize on
it.

Fred Reimer - CCNA


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Re: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ....... A BEAST ???? [7:73770]

2003-08-11 Thread Kevin Wigle
from the source.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/learning/le3/learning_recertification_training.htm
l

Renewal requires certification holders to register for - and pass - the
appropriate Cisco recertification exams.
 CCNA and CCDA recertification takes place when a candidate passes the
current certification exam or any new exam, bearing the prefix 642, at the
Professional or Cisco Qualified Specialist level.


in an Adobe file FAQ the following is said:

FAQs-RECERTIFICATION EXAMS AND AGREEMENT
18. When will the recertification exams be available?
The CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE, and Cisco Qualified Specialist designation
recertification
exams are available now. CCIP recertification requirements are in the process
of being defined and will
be announced by the end of 2003. Candidates may renew their Associate level
exams by passing any
Cisco Qualified Specialist or Professional level exam with a 642 prefix or by
obtaining a higher level
certification.

Having recently recertified both my CCDP/CCNP, my CCNA and CCDA have been
extended to the dates that my CCDP/CCNP expire.

Unfortunately it says 642 exam, the poster below completed a 641
exam was that a typo? I can't find 641-511.

An interesting question is how long say, is CCNA extended?  Completing one
642
exam doesn't make a CCNP.
It has not been the case that an individual exam had a life except when a
new version is trotted out.
None of the print I've read so far says that the CCNA would be upgraded for 3
years - but that seems to be the only timeframe.

Kevin Wigle


- Original Message -
From: Annlee 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 8:07 PM
Subject: RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST  [7:73770]


 I've never seen that kind of question...so I don't know.

 Anybody from Cisco want to take a crack at the fundamental question -- if
 you have an Associate-level cert, and pass one of the designated
 Professional-level exams, does your Associate-level cert get updated, even
 if it hasn't expired? Or does it update iff it has already expired?

 Annlee

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 19:02
 To: annlee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST  [7:73770]


  FWIW, I just ran into the following: when you take the SECUR
 642-501,  CSPFA 642-521,  or CSVPN 642-511 exams and you are a
 CCNA or CCDA recert candidate, if you pass the exam your NA or DA
 is recertified. I haven't got the time to chase other exams, but
 somebody else might.

 What exactly does this mean?  I got my CCNA last fall.  Does this mean the
 recert date has been moved up to today, plus 3 years, since I just passed
 the CSVPN 641-511 exam?

 Fred Reimer - CCNA


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 Subject: Re: CCDA (DESGN 640-861) ... A BEAST  [7:73770]

 FWIW, I just ran into the following: when you take the SECUR
 642-501,  CSPFA 642-521,  or CSVPN 642-511 exams and you are a
 CCNA or CCDA recert candidate, if you pass the exam your NA or DA
 is recertified. I haven't got the time to chase other exams, but
 somebody else might.

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7206 T1 Interface Cards [7:73739]

2003-08-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quick question, does anyone know off the top of their head if you can hot
swap cards in a 7206? Has anyone done it?

TIA
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Re: Can 802.1q isl co-exist on same network?? [7:73511]

2003-08-11 Thread Nakul Malik
can coexist.
-Nakul

dj  wrote in message
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 Have a production campus LAN network primarily running with 3508Gs and
 3524XL data switches with gigabit fiber uplinks.  All switches are
 currently running ISL Vlan trunking between the uplink ports.  There's
 also a 2620 router running ISL fastethernet subinterfaces configured
 with encapsulation ISL.

 I have some non-cisco network devices that only support 802.1q vlan
 trunking.  I already know the 802.1q trunking on non-cisco equipment
 works ok with cisco devices running 802.1q trunking.

 However, when I deploy the non-cisco equipment in the production campus
 LAN, can I have some trunk ports running 802.1q trunking and other trunk
 ports running ISL.  Bottom line:  Can ISL and 802.1q co-exist or do I
 have to migrate entire LAN to 802.1q vlan trunking??

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RE: multiple ospf processes route insertion [7:73727]

2003-08-11 Thread p b
Here's some more detail.

Yes, assume the destination address (networks) represent
the corresponding service.

This is an existing production network where OSPF and iBGP are
already in use for the existing (single) service.  OSPF carries
p2p and loopbacks; iBGP carries customer end-point networks.

We want to overlay two other services.  The paths the packets
take to their destination, even if hosted on the same router,
will be different.   Further, when there's a failure in the
network, the manner in which traffic gets re-routed will be
specific to each service.

An example might help.  Consider some router R1 in this network.
It has several connections to other routers in the network.  It
also has three interfaces each with a network assigned to it.
Lets call these networks A, B and C and each is for a different
service.   Under normal conditions, traffic to A comes in via
interface I1 and traffic to B and C comes in via interface I2.
Now assume I2 fails.  Traffic for A and B should come in over I1
and traffic to C stops being delivered. 

ACLs won't work in this situation for a number of reasons.  Besides
the configuration and operational issues, another requirement is 
that the end-points generating traffic to destinations in C 
will want to know when C is unavailable via I2.  They'll want to
know this so they can stop generating traffic or leverage some
higher level (service specific) mechanism to address the failure.

Running BGP as the IGP might work, but I'm not sure.  I think it
might need to operate in iBGP mode and I think it would require
lots of policy filters on all outgoing advertisements and would
probably require setting the next hop at each router.   These are
both typically not done when operating in iBGP mode.  Further,
I think one would lose the concept of IGP cost; the iBGP mechanism
might allow one to construct a path between two end-points which
satisfies the service policy, but if multiple paths exist, the
concept of link cost would not be available.I guess running
eBGP as the IGP could also work, but now we're talking configuring
a unique AS for each router (which doesn't scale).  One could see
the path selected through the network via the AS_PATH attribute,
but there still would be no concept of IGP cost.  

I've not come up with a way to solve this without moving to 
a model where theres an IGP and thus SPT for each service,
which implies multiple OSPF processes.  

But I'm interested in other thoughts or options on this...



Zsombor Papp wrote:
 
 Since you say you want to run one OSPF process for each traffic
 type, I assume the type of the traffic is defined by
 destination IP address. If this is not correct, then I would be
 curious to know what a traffic type is and how you will
 associate a traffic type with an OSPF process.
 
 If however my assumption is correct, then I can see several
 ways to solve the problem you cited as an example, with BGP or
 with a single OSPF process.
 
 Let me restate the problem for N=1: suppose there are 3
 routers, R1, R2, R3, connected in a triangle. Both traffic A
 and B usually go directly from R1 to R2, but when that link
 fails, traffic A should go from R1 to R3 to R2, and traffic B
 should be dropped at R1.
 
 Solution with BGP: run BGP between R1-R2 and R1-R3, make the
 routes coming from R2 preferred, and filter out the routes
 corresponding to traffic B from the advertisements R3 sends to
 R1.
 
 Solution with single OSPF process: configure an access list on
 the link between R1-R3 that drops traffic B. :)
 
 Of course I might be missing something, so feel free to point
 out why these wouldn't work in your case.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Zsombor
 
 p b wrote:
  
  
  Using multiple processes might provide a way to implement
  policy at the link level.   Typically, when one thinks of
  policy,
  one thinks of BGP.  But what if your policy requires the
 ability
  to control what traffic can or can't go over a particular
  link?  For example, consider two routers, that are
  interconnected
  by a direct link and a N-hop L3 path.  Suppose traffic types
  A and B should typically go over the direct link but, if the
  direct link fails, traffic type A should be routed over the
  N-hop L3 path and traffic type B should not be forwarded.
  
  I don't believe there's a way to get this level of policy from
  a single OSPF process or a single OSPF process coupled with
 BGP.
  
  However, if you run multiple OSPF processes, say one for each
  interesting traffic type, and if you use BGP to set a
 network's
  next-hop to match the right OSPF RID, and for each link define
  a sub-interface (or not) for each OSPF process, then I think
 the
  above routing requirements might be supported. 
  
  MPLS might work here, but I'm not sure.  
  
  
  
  
  
  Suppose you have certain types
  of traffic that
  
  Zsombor Papp wrote:
   
   What are you trying to achieve with these ~3 OSPF routing
   processes?
   
   Thanks,
   
   Zsombor
   
   p b wrote:

 

Re: OSPF summary address with Null 0 [7:73500]

2003-08-11 Thread Mark Bedell
Good question. Null0 will only be used if it can't find a particular
address. It's used to prevent routing loops essentially.


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 Hi everybody
 The case .. OSPF summary address with Null 0

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Re: IPv6 in the Enterprise Network [7:73667]

2003-08-11 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:

  Significant interest in Asia.
  Selected industries:  HDTV, 3G wireless, new generation air
  traffic control

HDTV?  Do you have any thoughts or pointers as to why HDTV
would be looking at v6?

When I was at Nortel, we were told by the HDTV people that they 
planned to use V6 for their infrastructure. Don't have more 
specifics--it was a future capabilities of a IP/CATV design.
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