OT: RE: Certifications on resumes
To ellaborate on what you were saying, because many recruiting firms scan the resumes into a database, and index them based on key words (certs, protocols, etc.), it is sometimes best to send them a text copy of a detailed resume, for archiving into their database, and offer the recruiter that you are working with a "formal" copy of a scaled down, single page, well formatted, professional looking resume that looks good printed out, for sending to the potential employers. I've used every trick possible within MS Word to fit as much as I possibly can onto a single piece of paper. I've changed the line spacing to be less than one, I've changed the space between letters, maxed out the margins, changed the point size of the font (I'm currently using 9 point Arial, anything smaller would require a magnifying glass), and I even eliminated the common practice of placing an email line in the header to gain an extra line at the bottom. BTW, I once had an interviewer make a quiz based on what I claimed to have experience with on my resume. Since I have used the same resume for 8 years, and have only added to it, there were alot of things on there that I have not worked with in a long time. I passed the quiz, only missing one question. The interviewer explained that over half the people he interviews fail to get a passing score on a quiz based on what they claim to know on their resumes. So remember to NOT include things that you may have completely forgotten, or are completely obsolete, when listing your skills. Examples: Arcnet, VMS, PDP-11, MS-DOS 3.3, X.25, Localtalk, LAT, XNS, Vines... At 11:23 AM 1/26/01 -0600, Ole Drews Jensen wrote: I am the Systems Network Manager for an enterprise that has several recruiting companies under them, which I am responsible for also. Some of these companies simply scan resumees into a special designed application, and everytime they need a candidate, the use the search function. That means that if they need someone with TCP/IP skills and a CCNA cert, you will not be shown in the results window if you only put your CCNP cert on your resume. I know that many companies like resumees to be 1 or max 2 pages long, but you have to kind of throw it in the air and "smell" what would be the best thing to do in each individual situation. I like to have different versions of my resume, so it mainly shows the area that matches the job functions I am applying for. Hth, Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.CiscoKing.com NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job -Original Message- From: Brandon Rose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 10:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Certifications on resumes My only issue with this is I try and keep my resume itself to one lean, mean page - though it sometimes goes over a little. If I individually included the dozen MS exams I completed and the many CompTIA exams I both took and acted as a SME for along with dates, that adds a lot of paper right there. Same goes for the gigantic protocol, operating system, and equipment list some people include. It doesn't leave much room to mention job experience/major projects, which is what probably counts in the long run. I don't know where I should stand on the keyword scan vs. "lean 'n mean" resume issue. Is there a conflict? I understand keywords are vital if someone from HR is scanning a hundred or so resumes, but at the same time they don't want to read a small novel with footnotes and a bibliography. I know most of my MBA friends would say it's all about including as many buzz words and acronyms in as little space as possible. heh I wonder what Raymond from the jobs groupstudy list will think? I'll be sure to bring this up with him when I see him. One thing I do agree on is the vast majority of HR personnel have no idea what the certs mean (but do they mean anything? that's a whole other topic right there). My $.02, Brandon - holder of various acronyms -Original Message- From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 9:41 AM To: Ole Drews Jensen; 'Andy'; Craig Columbus Cc: netlinesys; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Certifications on resumes I have done something similar as Ole, On my resume I have a section with a running history of exams passed and courses taken. If passing an exam completed a certification I note that in brackets. i.e. - 15 July 2000, CID exam passed (CCDP completed) On the cover page I only list the "senior" certs from a track. The same for my business card, the senior certs only. But on job boards I check off every single cert due to searches by HR people who may not know/understand the progression. There was a time when I chided people for putting
Re: OT (sort of) TAC Horror Stories
Bob, I never worked for Cisco TAC, but I was a TAC employee for two other networking companies over a 4 year period of time. Over the past two years, most network equipment manufacturers have had substantial backlogs of new orders that need to be filled as soon as possible. The QA groups are under a significant amount of pressure to get the products out the door as soon as possible, to fullfill those backorders. The manufacturers are under a lot of pressure to get the products assembled and shipped very quickly. The companies that manufacturer the components that go into the completed product are also under the gun to get the parts shipped out very quickly. Unfortunately, in order to get the speed, you have to take steps away from the QA process... The other strange phenomenon that I've seen happen before is that, since the sales force seems to have more clout than the logistics group that supplies the depots with spare parts, and sometimes the depots tend to get more refurbished products than new products. Sometimes, repair technicians do not find the problems that caused the refurbished product to be initially sent back to the company, because they to are under pressure to turn the product around, and ship it back out into the field, because of the backlog with manufacturing new products. Unfortunately, the only people in this entire cycle of chaos and bad quality who actually have to answer directly to the customers are the poor TAC Engineers, who have absolutely nothing to do with the entire process. The only thing that they have the power to do is authorize the shipment of replacement equipment to you. If that equipment is bad, TAC will have to deal with the next irrate phone call from the next dissatisfied customer. On a side note... After doing technical support for networking manufacturers over a 4 year period of time, maybe 1 out of 10 customers sent a thank you note showing appreciation for us helping them out after the problem was resolved. Maybe 1 out of 500 asked for your manager's email address to send a note letting them know what kind of job you did. Cisco sends out a survey to all TAC customers, but how many people respond? After my first consulting project was completed, the client treated us to Filet Mignon at Ruth's Chris Steakhouse. They even bought a take-home meal for my wife! So show your friendly TAC engineers some appreciation. If they help solve a problem that saves your company thousands or millions of dollars, send them a company shirt, hat, or a gift certificate to their favorite restaurant, or just fill out the survey praising their work. Because once they solve your problem, they are rewarded kindly by having to take the next major disaster out of the endless case queue! At 05:44 PM 1/23/01 -0800, Bob Johnson wrote: Just curious about other peoples experiences with TAC on products "gone bad"... 1) Get call while almost in bed at 9:30 PM 2) 3548XL GigE interface goes down... 3) Restart and power cycle switch to no avail.. 4) Swap out GBIC and fiber patch with no more luck... 5) Call TAC, luckily equipment is on 7x24x4 SmartNet.. 6) Actually get new switch in 3.5 hours delivered to site.. 7) While configuring notice fan does not work... 8) Install anyways and call TAC again (luckly unit was near HVAC vent)... 9) TAC agrees to send another unit but have to wait till next afternoon.. 10) Replacement arrives but half it's ports don't enable after boot (the LEDs stay sort of yellow) 11) TAC agrees to send another but it will take (this was on a Friday) till Monday... 12) Get replacement.. 13) Pull out of box and hear a serious rattle (must be atleast two parts loose in chassis) 14) TAC agrees to send another unit but need 3 days to find one... 15) Unit finally shows up and actually works (and didn't rattle) I was lucky as the first unit worked (though it's fan did not) and did not over heat (mainly due to it's location)... Had there been cooling problems I would have yanked a fan off one of the other units (though as the part was not a "service item" TAC did not support such creativeness).. Just curious as to what anyone elses TAC horror stories have been like? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BGP Weight
If you did not use "clear ip bgp *" to reset the BGP connection, then any existing routes that were in the BGP table before adding the weight parameter to the neighbor command, would be left at the default of 0 for routes learned from the neighbor. Reset the BGP connection (**AFTER HOURS ON THE WEEKEND OF COURSE!**). At 02:18 PM 1/10/01 -0800, John Neiberger wrote: We have two connections to ISPs, but only one is running BGP at this moment (waiting for Verio to get off of their hineys.) I have "neighbor x.x.x.x weight 1000" configured for my lone peer. When I do "show ip bgp", shouldn't every single route have a weight of 1000? I have no other peers so shouldn't that weight command set all routes to 1000? In actuality, very few are set to 1000; most are set to zero. I haven't been able to figure out why this might be happening. Any ideas? Thanks, John ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re(2): Disappointed with ccnp!!
Take a look at the description on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0898154030/o/qid=979051528/sr=8-1/ref =aps_sr_b_1_1/104-9132597-6531135 At 05:12 PM 1/9/01 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Maybe there are many out there who need guidance to face an Interview with a positive outlook. Could you please tell which Publication, who is the Author etc. of this "Sweaty Palms"? Regards S.Kalidasan 3. If you get the employer's attention, and get a chance to interview with the company, you are not necessarily being judged on your technical knowledge during that interview. You are being judged on how you present yourself. Anytime that I am preparing to be interviewed, I read a book called "Sweaty Palms". It explains a little about the psychology behind the interview process, both what you are going through, and what the interviewer is thinking when speaking to you. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to seperate data and voice on router
You could set the routing metric of PVC #2 to a higher value than PVC #1. This will cause all traffic to initially take PVC #1. Then, you can setup an access list for the UDP port range used by your VOIP traffic, and use it within a route-map statement to policy route the VOIP traffic over PVC #2. At 09:23 AM 1/9/01 +0800, Frank wrote: i got a 3640 router at branch site connected with a 7513 at center cite by frame relay .I want to transfer data and voice seperately, so i set up 2 subinterfaces on 3640.But could the 3640 differ them by the specific protocol port(UDP OR TCP PORT ),that is sending data to pvc 1,voice over ip to pvc 2?Should i use access list or anything like this? Thanks frank _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disappointed with ccnp!!
You cannot expect an employer to be interested in you just because you have a specific certification, in the same way that you cannot expect a company to hire you just because you have a specific degree. There are many things other than technical skills that an employer looks at. 1. Does the employee's resume catch their eye? Is it sloppy? Is there a problem with any of the wording? When you are employed in the networking field, you normally do not just sit in a dark room and configure routers all of the time. For the higher end positions, there are written proposals, network design drawings, presentations, reports, etc. You must be capable of communicating in a professional manner, and your resume and cover letter will leave a first impression with the potential employer of these skills. 2. Unfortunately for alot of newbies in the networking field, employers know that alot of times, certifications just prove that a candidate can memorize a bunch of facts. Because of the boom in the certification study guide industry, it is possible to memorize a book, and have a decent chance of passing the CCNP exam without ever touching the equipment. The CCIE and other similar tests that include lab examinations are often the best type of certification that prove that you have expert level hands-on knowledge. I worked with a gentlemen in the past that had his Novell CNE, CCNA, CCDA and MCSE. He was good at memorizing facts and taking exams. He was hired into a company because of those credentials. The management found out, however, that he could not solve technical problems, and was a drain on the rest of the staff because he was constantly bothering his fully employees for help with what should have been simple issues. The next time the management team goes to hire someone, they will not immediately bring the employee on board based on having specific certifications, because they have learned their lesson the hard way. 3. If you get the employer's attention, and get a chance to interview with the company, you are not necessarily being judged on your technical knowledge during that interview. You are being judged on how you present yourself. Anytime that I am preparing to be interviewed, I read a book called "Sweaty Palms". It explains a little about the psychology behind the interview process, both what you are going through, and what the interviewer is thinking when speaking to you. 4. Do not expect the employer to just give you the job because you've gotten to the interview, and have a certification. You have to present yourself professionally throughout the entire process, and sell yourself to the employer on your entire self, education, technical skills, project management, organization, writing abilities, presentation skills, etc. The company doesn't want someone with just a piece of paper behind them, they want a well rounded, reliable, competent employee. 5. If you do not have the job and work experience to back up your education and certification, you should not expect employers to bring you in at the senior levels of their staff. I started out, like you, working as a computer lab consultant for a major university. I worked hard while there, and after two years, was promoted to Assistant Lab Supervisor, and was in charge of maintaining all of LAN cabling up to the Access Router, the PC's, and the Printers. The pay was so low that I could no longer afford to attend college, and had to leave to work full time. I used that experience to get me a job as a contract PC Technician. While a contractor, I concentrated on software, learned alot about NT and Windows. I used that experience to get my foot in the door as a Technical Support Specialist for a worldwide distributor of networking and communications equipment for small to medium businesses. They hired me because they were looking for someone with NT knowledge. I then was introduced to networking equipment, and worked with equipment from Cisco, Nortel/Bay, 3Com, etc. I was the first person at the company to get the CCDA (it was actually called the CDS, Cisco Design Specialist, at that time). I later got the CCNA certification a few months after it came out. I used those certifications, and my previous knowledge to get in the door of a manufacturer of high speed voice and data networking equipment. They were looking for someone specifically with Cisco hands-on experience, as well as a general networking background with LAN's/WAN's. I worked my way to become a Senior Technical Support Engineer with that company. Unfortunately, I was off track on reaching the goal of CCIE, so I had to move on to a company that would assist me with the process. The moral of the story is, I took low paying jobs at the beginning of my career, I couldn't afford to eat at times, but I put in my time at the low end of the pool, and did not expect to skip steps in my career advancement. I moved from one company to the next to get the
Re: 2600 Route Processor
You can setup an ethernet port on the 2600 to run ISL or dot1q (802.1q) VLAN trunking. This is down by creating subinterfaces for the ethernet port. Here's a quick example: interface FastEthernet0/0 no ip address no shutdown ! interface FastEthernet0/0.1 description Subinterface for VLAN 1 running ISL ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0 encapsulation isl 1 ! interface FastEthernet0/0.2 description Subinterface for VLAN 2 running ISL ip address 2.1.1.1 255.255.255.0 encapsulation isl 2 At 12:18 AM 1/8/01 -0500, Rick Holden wrote: I find on Cisco's web page that the 2600 series routers are capable of inter-vlan routing. Does this mean that a 2600 can be used as a route processor for an MLS? Or does it just mean that it can route between vlans because it can has to Ethernet ports? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
