RE: CCNA Pass Mark
I can verify the same, 849 to pass, 65 questions, I believe the time is 90 minutes. Tough exam, but passed with a 881. Brad Shifflett CCNA, MCSE, CNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Micromenders, Inc. -Original Message- From: Dan Kline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 12:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCNA Pass Mark 849 to pass is correct. I took the test a little over a week ago and 849 is passing according to the Score Report that prints out. Dan Kline "Liang Mark J Civ AFRL/PROI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > No anymore! It is 65 questions, 849 to pass. > > -Original Message- > From: Traceroute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 7:30 AM > To: Tuan Heng; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CCNA Pass Mark > > 65 questions, 822 to pass > - Original Message - > From: "Tuan Heng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 12:04 AM > Subject: CCNA Pass Mark > > > > Hi All, > > > > I have read 2 conflicting reports on the number of questions and passing = > > mark for CCNA 2.0, one from Examcram while another from Que. > > > > Could someone tell me the ACTUAL number of questions,time frame given = > > and passing mark? > > > > TIA > > > > Tan > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
My thought is if you can get all the way through the CCIE Lab and all, you are determined to do the job. How many CCIE's are out there? 8000+-? I would say from the low numbers, this exam is not easy, I have been in the field for 7 years and just started to get my Cisco certification. I feel if I would have started the Cisco stuff years ago, I would have not made it. The material now is still pretty difficult to understand on some days. But, I think the difference is, I am trying to understand it and learn it, not just get by. I want to know the stuff inside and out. I am far from that, I know alot of people that can take the exam, cram all week, and pass. But when it comes to real world experience, it is over for them. Lets just weed out the bad and let them fall on there faces. I like to help people, but if I know this person is only a paper CXXX then I am not going to help them, it is up to us real engineers to put these paper guys in there place, let them fall down and you come up behind them and clean up the mess and save the day! Happy testing! Brad Shifflett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Micromenders, Inc. -Original Message- From: Tony van Ree [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 2:08 PM To: Liang Mark J Civ AFRL/PROI; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX Hi, My two bobs worth, Any qualification is as good as the paper it is written on. In my experience someone with an open mind, willing to learn, has acquired knowledge, shares knowledge and works smart in an effort to acheive excellence is what really counts. The paper does indicate the person has at least seen the words and knows the lingo, probably the acromymns and often has some understanding. I have seen many a good technical person, well qualified, knowledgable and understanding come copletely unglued when put in a situation the person was not familiar with. The mark of the real expert is 'the real expert will seek, ask and find' the details. He knows how to extract the details. Paper qualifications particularly at a degree level indicates the person can usually do this. I understand the pride of having a bunch of letters after your name. Personally I don't use them although I do have a copy of some of the certs I have gained on my wall. These are for my pride not to show others. I have lost the pride in my qualifications because some have them and do not share, care or attempt to understand. Teunis, Hobart, Tasmania Australia PS. I did think it strange when I read something by a Dr. Icant Remember the name CCIE. On Tuesday, March 20, 2001 at 08:01:23 AM, Liang Mark J Civ AFRL/PROI wrote: > Bravo! > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 4:22 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX > > This issue is turning thisgs upside down from point of view. > > I would like to tell you my opinion. If CCNA, NP, DA, DP and IE written > are not worth then your Bachelors and Graduate studies worth the same. Just > papers. > > I learn to configure a cisco router before knowing all the cisco stuff. > I have a CCDA, CCNP and going for the complete set CCDA, CCNP and CCIE > complete. > > I knew frame relay,atm, sna, dlsw, sdlc, ppp, ipx, switching, etc before > taking any cisco course. I took all cisco traning path version 11.2 and > just recently obtain my degrees and working for the big one. > > What will be your opinion Do I know something or I am just papers? > > You sould be carefull on your opinion about this things, all the knowledge > since a long time ago has been paper, No one has achieve glory after years > of practice and experience. > > I was thinking that you are trying to do the same that the shareowners are > doing with the internet economy, you are devaluating the value of the > Certifications, > why don't you do the same with the college and and graduate degrees, they > are very similar just studying and passing examns not real life thing until > you pass all the levels (semesters and big exam thesis). > > Giga Internetworking > > Fer Saldana > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- www.tasmail.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/c
RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
Then that is even better. The less there are, the more prestigous the certification I think it is. I would say some that do pass probably are just naturally able to do the work with no problem, some are just book smart and have great memorization skills, but doesn't this really require a deep knowledge to pass beyond what alot of us can even comprehend right now? I just started looking at this myself. We just got one guy at our company passed the lab and one pther passed the written. I can say these 2 are very smart and bright individuals. Brad Shifflett -Original Message- From: Louie Belt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 6:57 PM To: Brad Shifflett; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX Actually, you are way too high on your estimate of CCIE's. As of February 28th 2001 there are 5432 worldwide, 2476 are in the US. A large number of those work directly for Cisco. The certification has been around since 1994 and the first CCIE was #1024 The CCIE World population can be viewed at: http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html Louie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brad Shifflett Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 4:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX My thought is if you can get all the way through the CCIE Lab and all, you are determined to do the job. How many CCIE's are out there? 8000+-? I would say from the low numbers, this exam is not easy, I have been in the field for 7 years and just started to get my Cisco certification. I feel if I would have started the Cisco stuff years ago, I would have not made it. The material now is still pretty difficult to understand on some days. But, I think the difference is, I am trying to understand it and learn it, not just get by. I want to know the stuff inside and out. I am far from that, I know alot of people that can take the exam, cram all week, and pass. But when it comes to real world experience, it is over for them. Lets just weed out the bad and let them fall on there faces. I like to help people, but if I know this person is only a paper CXXX then I am not going to help them, it is up to us real engineers to put these paper guys in there place, let them fall down and you come up behind them and clean up the mess and save the day! Happy testing! Brad Shifflett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Micromenders, Inc. -Original Message- From: Tony van Ree [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 2:08 PM To: Liang Mark J Civ AFRL/PROI; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX Hi, My two bobs worth, Any qualification is as good as the paper it is written on. In my experience someone with an open mind, willing to learn, has acquired knowledge, shares knowledge and works smart in an effort to acheive excellence is what really counts. The paper does indicate the person has at least seen the words and knows the lingo, probably the acromymns and often has some understanding. I have seen many a good technical person, well qualified, knowledgable and understanding come copletely unglued when put in a situation the person was not familiar with. The mark of the real expert is 'the real expert will seek, ask and find' the details. He knows how to extract the details. Paper qualifications particularly at a degree level indicates the person can usually do this. I understand the pride of having a bunch of letters after your name. Personally I don't use them although I do have a copy of some of the certs I have gained on my wall. These are for my pride not to show others. I have lost the pride in my qualifications because some have them and do not share, care or attempt to understand. Teunis, Hobart, Tasmania Australia PS. I did think it strange when I read something by a Dr. Icant Remember the name CCIE. On Tuesday, March 20, 2001 at 08:01:23 AM, Liang Mark J Civ AFRL/PROI wrote: > Bravo! > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 4:22 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX > > This issue is turning thisgs upside down from point of view. > > I would like to tell you my opinion. If CCNA, NP, DA, DP and IE written > are not worth then your Bachelors and Graduate studies worth the same. Just > papers. > > I learn to configure a cisco router before knowing all the cisco stuff. > I have a CCDA, CCNP and going for the complete set CCDA, CCNP and CCIE > complete. > > I knew frame relay,atm, sna, dlsw, sdlc, ppp, ipx, switching, etc before > taking any cisco course. I took all cisco traning path version 11.2 and > just recently obtain m
Book errors
Has anyone noticed alot of errors in the Osbourne BSCN study guide? I seem to find myself proofreading this book more than studying it. Questions with the wrong answers and the same question twice with 2 different answers: What are the 3 layers of a hierarchical network: my answer Core, Access and Distribution, book answer, Core and Distribution only for 1 question and later on the same question again and they say the answer is Core, Access and Distribution. It really frustrates me to rely on study materials if I cannot rely on the answers being right and having to check everything over. Some diagrams are missing IP adddresses and also in the answers they are putting in IP addresses that are not even on the diagram. Any recommendations as to a better book to get? Should I just go with the Cisco Press books? Thanks. Brad Shifflett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Micromenders, Inc. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vlan Question
Scenario: Got a client who has a person on the network that does not want to be on the network but wants access to the server. My thought was to install a switch, setup to Vlans, one for all the users (10 or so) and the second Vlan for the 1 user by himself. This way no one can get to his machine, then setup an access list to permit his Vlan to access the first Vlan and deny all the other users to his Vlan. Does this sound right? Anything I am missing? Seeing if I understand Vlans correctly or not. Brad Shifflett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Micromenders, Inc. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Vlan Question
The user is a very high political figure who is real cautious about security and paranoid. I like the idea of a seperate nic in the server and two subnets. The cost of switches could be a deciding factor. Thanks for the input guys! Brad -Original Message- From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 12:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Vlan Question At 02:01 PM 3/22/2001 -0600, you wrote: >We'll he could be wanting to isolate consultants to their own VLAN but have >a need to update files on the server. In our case we have auditors come in >from time to time and so we don't want them in with the rest of the world so >we isolate them in their own VLAN and then setup an access list. They are >only here temporary. So I could see how this is a legit question. but if the server isn't on the same VLAN, how do they get to it? How does it get to them? Routing between VLANs, and VLAN-aware NICs, are pretty much the only alternatives. VLANs were introduced to isolate groups, but there's nothing magical about them. If there is sensitive data around, you also want host-level security. >""Howard C. Berkowitz"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > At 08:26 AM 3/22/2001 -0800, you wrote: > > >Scenario: > > > Got a client who has a person on the network that does not want >to > > >be on the network but wants access to the server. > > > > I'm somewhat confused. First, if he is somehow hidden, how does the server > > send back to the client? > > > > Second, if he is on one VLAN/subnet and the server is on another, > > sounds like a fairly basic routing application. Another would be to > > have a VLAN-aware NIC on the server. > > > > Without further information, this sounds like a user whim rather than > > a real requirement. There's a flavor of the user wanting security > > by obscurity. > > > > >My thought was to install > > >a switch, setup to Vlans, one for all the users (10 or so) and the second > > >Vlan for the 1 user by himself. This way no one can get to his machine, >then > > >setup an access list to permit his Vlan to access the first Vlan and deny > > >all the other users to his Vlan. Does this sound right? Anything I am > > >missing? Seeing if I understand Vlans correctly or not. > > > > > >Brad Shifflett > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Micromenders, Inc. > > > > > > > > >_ > > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
recommended CCNP lab
If you could, what would you recommend for a lab setup, very basic, just to learn all you need and see what is happening. What equipment would be bare minimum requirements? At the most reasonable price. Brad Shifflett _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Taking BSCN on Friday, any last minute tips? [7:1047]
I am taking BSCN on Friday, any last minute tips? Anything to really cram on and things to watch out for? Thanks anyone! Brad Shifflett Micromenders, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1047&t=1047 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: Allowing the DNS in a config ??? [7:1240]
-Original Message- From: Brad Shifflett Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 12:51 PM To: 'No Data' Subject: RE: Allowing the DNS in a config ??? [7:1240] Actually it is port 53 for DNS. Brad -Original Message- From: No Data [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 12:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Allowing the DNS in a config ??? [7:1240] Heh, I bet most of us turn dns look-ups off when we are on routers :) Anyway, the command is 'ip domain-lookup' It should be on by default. When you set up the router as a firewall you need to allow tcp port 43 for DNS to come into your private network (please correct me if I am wrong on this). I hope that answers your questions. Ben --- Circusnuts wrote: > Forgive me- I did find the stats sheet from the ISP > & was able to configure > the workstation to find the DNS server. Everything > is UP now. I am aware > the router cannot become the DNS server, but what > are the commands to allow > it to perform DNS lookup (or allow the router access > to the DNS server) for > it's own resolution ??? > > Thanks > Phil > > - Original Message - > From: Daniel Serna > To: Circusnuts > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:00 PM > Subject: Re: Allowing the DNS in a config ??? > [7:1240] > > > > Hello, > > > > If I understand you correctly, you want the router > to act as a DNS server > > or to at least allow the DNS through it? As you > probably know, the router > > can't act as a DNS server, it can act as a DNS > client. It should be able > > to pass the DNS traffic along since I see there > are no access-lists > > stopping it. I would configure your PC with a DNS > server from your ISP > > manually, as well as the gateway, and proxy > settings. Do you have a > > firewall between your PC and the router that might > be blocking the DNS > > traffic ? > > > > -Daniel- > > > > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Circusnuts wrote: > > > > > Hey all- I'm setting up my home network with a > dual Ethernet 2500. I > have > > > most the config written for PAT (or NAT Inside > Overload), better know as > "TOO > > > CHEAP TO PAY FOR EXTRA IP'S" :o) I'm @ a loss > as far as how to get the > Cisco > > > to resolve Domain Names or pass through that > access. > > > > > > Let me be less specific & give the symptoms... > > > > > > I have the router up & translating address (many > 10. addresses to on > outside > > > IP). I can Ping anything out on the Internet, > but I am not able to get > > > WebPages to resolve on the PC or Ping anything > with a Domain Name > (router or > > > PC). The cable company has everything to obtain > Dynamically on the PC. > > > There > > > are no DNS, Proxy, or default gateway settings > in the PC control panel. > > > > > > Firewall#sh run > > > Building configuration... > > > > > > Current configuration: > > > ! > > > version 12.0 > > > service timestamps debug uptime > > > service timestamps log uptime > > > no service password-encryption > > > ! > > > hostname Firewall > > > ! > > > enable password Phil > > > ! > > > ip subnet-zero > > > ! > > > interface Ethernet0 > > > ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0 > > > no ip directed-broadcast > > > ip nat inside > > > ! > > > interface Ethernet1 > > > ip address 24.X.X.72 255.255.255.0 > > > no ip directed-broadcast > > > ip nat outside > > > ! > > > ip default-gateway 24.X.X.1 > > > ip nat pool Molly 24.X.X.72 24.X.X.72 netmask > 255.255.255.0 > > > ip nat inside source list 1 pool Molly overload > > > ip classless > > > ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 24.X.X.1 > > > ! > > > access-list 1 permit 10.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 > > > ! > > > line con 0 > > > transport input none > > > line aux 0 > > > line vty 0 4 > > > login > > > ! > > > end > > > > > > Any ideas ??? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Phil > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1282&t=1240 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Failed BSCN [7:1405]
Failed by 23 points. Really tough on BGP. I only got 22%. Any tips on good materials to really grasp BGP? Brad Shifflett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Micromenders, Inc. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1405&t=1405 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
