RE: Which Job Should I Take?

2001-02-15 Thread Coker, Michael

Pre-IPO indicates the company has plans to go public (ie sell shares of the
company on the stock market).

This topic should also probably be moved to the jobs list.

As far as the two job options, I'd chose the opportunity that will allow you
to work with the technology you want to work with.  These two jobs are very
different from each other.  I'd think the major decision would be "do I want
to focus/pursue VoX technology?"  That should make your decision fairly easy
as in my experience you will either love the Voice arena or you will hate
it.  I'd say getting involved with the Voice arena has a high chance of
getting you off the RS studies.  But on the other hand the Voice arena is
getting huge!  Opportunities are popping up left and right for people
focused on Cisco AVVID technologies.  I'd evaluate your interest in Voice
and then make your decision based on that.

Another side note, if you determine that you are in fact interested in
pursuing Voice technology then I wouldn't worry about the company being
pre-IPO.  If they fail, and the department you work in gets cut, you will
find getting another job dealing with Voice to be no problem.

Remember, hours and dress are petty concerns compared to what you actually
"do" for a living.

HTH

Best Regards,

--Mike 

 -Original Message-
 From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:22 AM
 To: 'Traceroute'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Which Job Should I Take?
 
 
 I know what I would do, but that should not influate your 
 decision. We all
 have different goals, and if you have a family to support, 
 you should talk
 with them first before you make your choice. With a wife and 
 kids there's
 big difference from working 9-5 to 1-midnight.
 
 You'll get used to the business dress very quickly, so don't 
 let that scare
 you too much.
 
 A title is "just" a title, but maybe they would offer you a 
 better one at
 your current job if you deside to go with the new one.
 
 I have no idea what pre-ipo means, so I can't guide you in 
 that matter.
 
 Hth,
 
 Ole
 
 
  Ole Drews Jensen
  Systems Network Manager
  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://www.CiscoKing.com
 
  NEED A JOB ???
  http://www.oledrews.com/job
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Traceroute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:53 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Which Job Should I Take?
 
 
 I was wondering if you all could share your opinions with me. 
 I have a =
 choice of two jobs to take listed below. Both are an increase 
 in pay of =
 about 9k.
 
 1. My current Job: They are going to title me "network 
 engineer" working =
 4 10 hour days 1 pm to midnight ( I love the hours) , but we 
 work with =
 cabletron, checkpoint and cisco. We have a campus and WAN support =
 responsibility. Sometimes it's a bit slow when nothing is 
 happening and =
 I may get some "Win NT" duties, yuck I would have sunday, 
 monday and =
 tuesdays off and could possibly get some good side gigs. Last 
 but not =
 least, it's business casual.
 
 2. New Job Offer: I will be titled a "network administrator" 
 working 8 =
 to 5 monday through friday ( I hate waking up early ), but getting =
 exposure to ATM, Voice over IP and voice over ATM. Lots of MC 3810s =
 about 50 or so with conections all over the US. One thing is 
 for sure is =
 there are NT admins to handle the "Win NT" issues, I really want to =
 graduate from the NT support world for good. This company is also =
 pre-ipo and although they are a huge company, this is a new 
 "division" =
 and pre-ipo makes me nervous because I have a family to support. One =
 cool thing is that they are a cisco gold partner. One bad 
 thing is that =
 they are business dress, yes the whole tie thing. The pre-ipo thing =
 makes me nervous because they say "yea when we go public, 
 lots of the =
 big wigs will be rich"... Does this mean new management takeovers =
 etc...??
 
 
 Anyway, thanks for any input...
 
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RE: BGP Tutorial--anyone know a good one?

2001-02-09 Thread Coker, Michael

http://joe.lindsay.net/bgp.html
There is a Tutorial link half way down the page that presents a slide show
tutorial.

I've also found this link to be good.
http://www.netaxs.com/~freedman/bgp/bgp.html

In addition, Cisco's site has a ton of info.  Here's a few links.
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/14.html
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ip_c
/ipcprt2/1cdbgp.htm
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ics/icsbgp4.htm

Best Regards,

--Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: Leonardo Silva - Tecnologia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 9:03 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: BGP Tutorial--anyone know a good one?
 
 
 Hello!
 
 I'm looking for a BGP tutorial.
 
 If anyone know one it will help a lot.
 
 Tks.
 
 Leonardo Silva
 
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RE: % Warning: cannot change link type

2000-12-13 Thread Coker, Michael

That's correct.  The only two commands that you have to reload a router, are
when changing the ISDN switch type and changing subinterfaces from
point-to-point to point-to-multipoint or vice versa.  At least the only two
that I've heard of.  I'd be interested if someone has heard of any others.

--Mike 

-Original Message-
From: Maccubbin, Duncan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12/13/00 7:47 AM
Subject: RE: % Warning:  cannot change link type

then tried to delete it and bring it back up as a point-to-point. You
will
get this error with 11.x IOS. Delete the interface and restart the
router.
That should enable you to change the frame type to multipoint.

Good luck,

Duncan

-Original Message-
From: les flack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 8:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: % Warning: cannot change link type


Help,

I have a 3600 @ 11.3 which is running as a frame switch on some ports
and I am trying to configure some of the other ports as routed
point-to-point sub-ints.

But when configuring the second sub int I get the following.

frsw1(config)#int s0/0.1 point-to-point
frsw1(config-subif)#exit
frsw1(config)#int s0/0.2 point-to-point
% Warning:  cannot change link type

Which results in the following configuration

interface Serial0/0
 no ip address
 no ip mroute-cache
 encapsulation frame-relay
!
interface Serial0/0.1 point-to-point
 no arp frame-relay
!
interface Serial0/0.2 multipoint
 no arp frame-relay

Any ideas?

Les

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RE: Frame-relay URLs

2000-12-13 Thread Coker, Michael

Cisco's site has a lot of good Frame Relay info, obviously.  Nevertheless,
I've listed a few of my favorites that may prove to be useful.

Best of luck,

--Mike

http://www.nwfusion.com/research/framerelay.html?nf#search

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/779/smbiz/service/knowledge/wan/subifs.htm

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/qos_
c/qcprt4/qcdpolsh.htm

http://www.raleigh.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr/BOOKS/EZ305800/CCONTENTS

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/tr1918.htm

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/125/13.html

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios113ed/113ed_cr/w
an_c/wcfrelay.htm#xtocid2343228

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/qos_c
/qcpart4/qcfrts.htm

 

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Sent: 12/13/00 1:54 AM
Subject: Re: Frame-relay URLs


Can anybody suggest some links or URLs on Frame-relay for detailed study
including basics , configuration.
Thanks in advance.

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RE: BGP

2000-12-11 Thread Coker, Michael

OSPF Network Design Solutions by Tom Thomas 

-Original Message-
From: Pierre-Alex
To: Andre Fecteau; Cisco
Sent: 12/11/00 11:05 PM
Subject: RE: BGP

I bought it myself yesterday. Quite a book!
I wonder if there is the equivalent for Frame Relay and OSPF.

Pierre-Alex

-Original Message-
From: Andre Fecteau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 11:55 AM
To: Pierre-Alex
Subject: Re: BGP


I of course haven't finished reading it yet, but so far I like it!

Andre

Pierre-Alex wrote:

 How do you like it?

 -Original Message-
 From: Andre Fecteau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 3:18 PM
 To: Pierre-Alex
 Subject: Re: BGP

 I bought the book by Halabi.

 thank you,
 Andre

 Pierre-Alex wrote:

  Try this:
 
  BGP:
  - Overview
  http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/bgp.htm
  - case studies http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/bgp-toc.html
  - Using for Interdomain Routing
  http://cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ics/icsbgp4.htm
  - Technical Tips http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/18.html
 
  Regards,
 
  Pierre
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
  Andre Fecteau
  Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 7:00 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: BGP
 
  Hello,
 
  Does anyone have any suggestions for a good CBT or Book or something
to
  learn more about BGP?  I read a book on BGP, but it talked about
  confederations, communities and bgp in general.  The ACRC book I
have
  only grazes the subject I was hoping for a book or something that
would
  go more in depth.  EX: Confederations, Commands, Filters, Regular
  Expressions, etc...  Can anyone give me some good suggestions?  I of
  course am looking for material concerning Cisco BGP configuration!
 
  Any suggestions are welcome!!!
 
  Thank You,
  Andre
 
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RE: DLSw help

2000-12-11 Thread Coker, Michael

I'm no DLSW expert, and don't currently have access to any routers.  But it
looks to me like your defining a virtual ring group, but fail to map your
remote-peer to this ring group.

Try:

===
source-bridge ring-group 1234
source-bridge local-peer peer-id 137.20.103.2
source-bridge remote-peer 1234 remote-peer tcp 137.20.100.1
dlsw bridge-group 1

int e0
 ip address 137.20.40.1 255.255.255.0
 bridge-group 1
 no shut
bridge 1 protocol ieee

Either way I'm interested in the outcome.

Best Regards,

--Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: Hubert Pun [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 7:18 PM
 To: Cisco Study Group
 Subject: DLSw help
 
 
 Here is the config between two router with Ethernet interfaces for
 DLSw.  (The other site is just a mirror image).
 
 When I perform a "show dlsw peer", the state is CONNECT
 However, "sh dlsw reachability " and "show dlsw circuits " is empty.
 Also, "show dlsw capabilities " has "  reachable mac addresses : none"
 
 All the interfaces on the network has connectivity to each other, and
 there is no access list.
 
 Thanks in advanced
 
 
 ===
 source-bridge ring-group 1234
 dlsw local-peer peer-id 137.20.103.2
 dlsw remote-peer 0 tcp 137.20.100.1
 dlsw bridge-group 1
 
 int e0
  ip address 137.20.40.1 255.255.255.0
  bridge-group 1
  no shut
 bridge 1 protocol ieee
 
 
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RE: Napster block

2000-12-08 Thread Coker, Michael

Websense is another such product.

 -Original Message-
 From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 9:29 AM
 To: Eddie Parra; Patrick Bass; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Napster block
 
 
 As part of some research I have been doing to address some 
 issues I have
 with a particular customer security design, I've been 
 spending a bit of time
 at www.trusecure.com , and the related interests Information Security
 Magazine and the ICSA test labs.
 
 What I have read there leads me to believe that it is damn 
 near impossible
 to enforce any kind of real complex security policy on a 
 purely hardware
 based firewall.
 
 Too many bad things are starting to happen using ports 20, 
 21, 25, 53, and
 80 - all ports that in general must be left open for 
 legitimate company web
 use. For good reasons and evil, app developers are now 
 writing their apps to
 use these ports, rather than leave them for their intended purposes.
 
 There are a couple of companies that offer server based software that
 inspect and block forbidden sites and content. I believe one of the
 companies offering such a product is WebSecure. Sorry, I can't find my
 literature that I picked up at Networkers.
 
 But the point is that in order to stop any number of services 
 that violate
 policy, it is no longer enough to try to block a couple of ports.
 
 Chuck
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On 
 Behalf Of
 Eddie Parra
 Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 8:52 AM
 To:   Patrick Bass; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: Napster block
 
 How did you do that?  Napster isn't port based...  Napster 
 can use ANY TCP
 port?  You can set the Napster client to port 80 (HTTP) and 
 it works fine.
 
 -Eddie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Patrick Bass
 Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 9:35 AM
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 Subject: Re: Napster block
 
 
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 napster using the
 PIX outbound command.
 
 
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RE: Publishing Date?

2000-12-07 Thread Coker, Michael

The last time I spoke to him he said he was doing the final edits on the
book.

Amazon lists it as March 2001 and they are generally correct, as the
Editor's of the book are sure to keep Amazon and such updated with release
dates.

--Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: Adam Hickey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 8:19 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Publishing Date?
 
 
 Anyone know when Doyle is going to publish Vol 2?
 
 Adam Hickey
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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RE: Publishing Date?

2000-12-07 Thread Coker, Michael

I don't know "who" it will differ from, but I know "how" it will differ from
volume one.

It covers BGP, multicasting, etc.

 -Original Message-
 From: Newton, James A. (AIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 12:25 PM
 To: 'Adam Hickey'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Publishing Date?
 
 
 Does anyone know who it will differ from volume one?
 
 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 10:19 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Publishing Date?
 
 
 Anyone know when Doyle is going to publish Vol 2?
 
 Adam Hickey
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RE: newbie question on Frame Relay!!

2000-12-01 Thread Coker, Michael

jw,

When using Frame Relay the router will have:

- a physical access circuit (this is the circuit between the router and the
Frame Relay provider, i.e. T1)

- a PVC or SVC (this is the "virtual" circuit through the Frame Relay cloud
to the other router)

The physical access circuits can be different for each router.  However, a
PVC connected between Router A and Router B will be the same speed.  I think
you may be confusing the two types of circuits.

Example:

Router A (main branch router) can have a single T1 to the Frame Relay
provider (CO).  This would be the Physical Access Circuit.  Router A could
then have multiple PVC mappings, let's say 256k each, to multiple branch
office routers (i.e. Rtr B, Rtr C, Rtr D, Rtr E, Rtr F, etc.).  All of these
branch offices may have 512k physical access circuits to the Frame Relay
cloud, but it's the PVC's that will have the same transmission rate (256k
each) back to Router A.

Traffic shaping comes in handy when you have multiple PVC's that basically
oversubscribe your T1 (meaning the cumulative amount of PVC's, in bps, is
more than the bps of the physical access circuit of Router A).  Traffic
shaping allows you to keep from oversubscribing your central router by
throttling the amount of traffic transmitted by all of the other branch
offices.

Hope this helps.

Best Regards,

--Mike

-Original Message-
From: jeongwoo park
To: Groupstudy
Sent: 12/1/00 1:12 PM
Subject: newbie question on Frame Relay!!

Hi all
I have a quick question.
On the traffic between central router and branch
office router on frame relay, how could central
router's connection rate to FR cloud be different from
branch office router's connection rate to FR cloud?
I could understand if cloud had traffic congestion.
But when there are no traffic congestions, how could
they be different?
These two routers are using same mechanism, Frame
Relay, which gives relatively high-speed transfer
rate.
I happened to ask myself this question while I was
reading about FR traffic shaping. Traffic shaping
could be useful under this situation. ( according to
the book)
Could anyone give clear answer?

I appreciate your reply.

jw


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RE: CID or Core Tests?

2000-11-09 Thread Coker, Michael

Actually the CID 4.0 course is about to debut in web based/e-learning
format.  The courseware should come out fairly soon after that.
I was actually communicating with the Product Manager for the CID course and
was going to sit in the beta class, but it was cancelled as their focus had
changed to the web format.  I'd suppose that the CID 4.0 exam would be
developed a few months after the course is developed.

--Mike

-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
To: Mike McDaniel; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11/9/00 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: CID or Core Tests?

CID isn't much like DCN. CID expects advanced technology expertise, 
especially in legacy protocols. CID does not have any case studies and
only 
a few "methodology" questions. It mostly has strangely-worded questions 
about Cisco solutions to problems network engineers face when growing
and 
enhancing enterprise networks.

Bottom line: I think it would be hard to pass CID if you don't have the 
knowledge to pass the other core CCDP tests. Also, if you wait on CID, 
maybe you'll be able to take a test that isn't ancient. I haven't heard 
that Cisco is updating CID, but I would think that they must be.

Priscilla


At 10:04 PM 11/8/00, Mike McDaniel wrote:
I have been a fly on the wall for some time. I have been able to find
the
answers to most of my questions from the archives or current threads,
but
this one has me stumped.

I have had my CCNA for about a year and just recently passed the DCN
test.
keeping in mind I wish to complete CCNP/DP certifications, my questions
is
as follows.

Should I sit the CID test and get that out of the way while the DCN
info is
fresh, or should I take the core tests to prepare for the CID?
I'm leaning towards CID, but would like feedback from those who have
been
there.

TIA,
Mike



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RE: Anybody else take the CCIE Security beta test?

2000-11-08 Thread Coker, Michael

 yes

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RE: ccie security exam

2000-11-06 Thread Coker, Michael

The new CCIE Security exam is in fact 351-018.  When I scheduled the exam I
placed a phone call as it was not listed on the web site.

The other test is a recertification test only for those who've passed the
CCIE written/lab and need to recertify.  It's not the same as the new
351-018.  Once the new beta expires the real exam will probably come out in
about 2 months once they've evaluated all the beta scores and comments.

I took the CCIE Security test on Sunday and didn't believe it was nearly as
difficult as I had anticipated.

--Mike 

-Original Message-
From: John Green
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Sent: 11/6/00 2:42 PM
Subject: ccie security exam 

351-018 (Security Qualification Exam)was the number
that was mentioned in this list for cisco security
beta exam. I checked up the cisco site and it confirms
that :
* The Security beta will only be available from
October 20, 2000 to November 10, 2000.


but in the prometric web site under the cisco
certifications i see only 350-009 as CCIE security
recertification exam. 
Please let me know if the ccie security recert exam is
same as the above beta mentioned.

If you would know as to which exam is the one that
closely matches the 350-018 exam ?

thanks all
john

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RE: Committed burst Excess burst

2000-11-02 Thread Coker, Michael

Let me attempt to explain it:

There are three components to Frame Relay traffic shaping and the Frame
Relay standard for discarding packets, although not often used in producion
Frame Relay environments:

Bc = Committed Burst
Be = Excessive Burst
Tc = Time Interval

The Bc is similar to that of the CIR except it is an "amount" of data,
represented in bits, whereas the CIR is an amount of data transmitted per
second.  

The Be is also represented as an "amount" of data, represented in bits.

The Tc is the time interval in which this process will take place.

Now for the process:

As frames are received by the Frame Relay switch it uses an algorithm known
as the leacky bucket algorith, similar to ATM, to track and monitor the
amount of data being sent from a DLCI.

Note:  This entire process takes place within a specific amount of time,
known as the Tc.  Once the Tc has expired, the process is repeated for the
next amount of data.

Think of the Bc and Be as buffers for the frames.  As the data is received
by the Frame Relay switch from a specific DLCI it will fill up the Bc buffer
first.  All packets after the Bc fill up the Be buffer and are marked as DE
(Discard Eligible).  After the Be is filled, the frames are discarded until
the Tc expires.  The process is then repeated.

Hope this clarifies things.  Feel free to send me an e-mail if you need/want
further clarification.  I've also got a Visio diagram that illustrates this
process.

Best Regards,

--Mike
 

-Original Message-
From: John lay
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11/2/00 1:56 AM
Subject: Committed burst  Excess burst

Guys,

I have a question regarding Frame Relay traffic shapping.
I am try to understand the difference between the Committed Burst and
the
Excess Burst. I have been reading the BCRAN training material for that
part,
but the difference is not clear enough till now.
Any simple claification on this issue is highly appreciated.

Thanks in advance. 





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RE: How to turn it off

2000-10-27 Thread Coker, Michael

"u all" = "undebug all" if you are running any kind of OSPF debug process
that you want to turn off. 

-Original Message-
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Sent: 10/27/00 4:27 PM
Subject: How to turn it off

I m constantly getting some error messages from ospf
updates. i m working for those but how can i shut this
message what command

=
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MSc Telecommunications Candidate
University of Colorado Boulder
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CCIE Security

2000-10-20 Thread Coker, Michael

For those interested in pursuing the CCIE Security, Cisco is offering
the beta exam (351-018) via Prometric.  It is offered from October 20th
- November 10th.  The cost is $50.  The lab is in development.

As the blueprint is not listed on Cisco's site, you may want to check out
the blueprint for the Security Recertification exam (350-009).

Multiservices and Network Management betas are coming soon.

Best Regards,

--Mike

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RE: Higher than CCIE...

2000-08-27 Thread Coker, Michael

Interesting idea.  However, there are more than "3" CCIE certifications.

CCIE RS
CCIE WAN Switching
CCIE ISP Dial
CCIE SNA-IP
CCIE Design (as of 7/10/00)
CCIE Security (in development)
CCIE Multiservices (made this one up, but I'm sure it's soon to come) 

Therefore, there are currently 5 CCIE certs available with one more coming
soon and a possible 7th available in the near future.
So anyone that could pass all of these labs, ...well, has WAY too much time
on their hands.  ; )  ...and probably could rewrite the Cisco IOS to work
better.
By the time someone passes all of these CCIE certs there will be even more
new certs (ie CCIE Management, CCIE havenolife, CCIE brainfried, etc)

--Mike
-Original Message-
From: Generation Cisco
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 8/26/00 11:56 PM
Subject: Higher than CCIE...

Hey Group,
I was pondering this thought. If the rate of CCIE's is rising at
a fast pace than I think it would be cool if Cisco created a new cert.
The way to obtain this one would be to pass all three CCIE tests. From
what I know there is only one person in the world who has all three... I
think his name is Brendan Ta or something. They could name the cert:
CCID (Cisco certified internetwork director), or something like (and
this is my favorite): CCIG (Cisco certified internetwork guru) :)  Don't
think they would use that one though, :)  This type of cert would, in my
eyes, deem you as a true master of the matrix, if you know what I
mean...just a though. Maybe we can get some good responses on this
one...Have a good one group. 

P.S. I would like if Priscilla O. and Todd L. could also comment on this
topic...thanks.  :)

Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA
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"Complete Solutions for Complex Networks"

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