Re: You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . .
Ben: I do neither. I smile and act like that I expected that result. THEN I reboot. David (tongue placed back in cheek after wagging furiously) Besides, the secret to being a consultant is to know *at least* 2% more than your client. Mind you, the requirement rarely exceeds 2%! - Original Message - From: "Ben Lovegrove" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 3:19 AM Subject: "You can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . ." (tongue firmly in cheek) I have this theory that you can call yourself and internetworking engineer when . . . . 1. You have run a debug command on a customer router while investigating a performance problem, or perhaps a security issue, and you have caused the CPU to exceed 100% and the router has hung/crashed. 2. You have edited an ACL remotely and reapplied it only to find you have blocked all traffic including telnet from your desk and you are now locked out. 3. In both of the above scenarios you have made up some story for the Help Desk/1st Line Support and asked them to get the customer to reboot the router, claiming that "a reboot may help the performance problem . . blah . . blah" 4. In each of points 1 2 the customer in question is a major account that has threatened legal action against your company for failing to maintain SLAs, or to close the account altogether. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Have you every felt that cold feeling in the pit of your stomach when you entered a command and the screen froze? Did you blame hardware/software/customer/gremlins i.e. anybody and anything but not yourself? ;-) Ben = Ben Lovegrove, CCNP Redspan Solutions Ltd http://www.redspan.com Cisco: Products, Training, Jobs, Study Guides, Resources. Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is this true?
Dear All: As much as I hate to send "me toos," I couldn't help my self on this one. When I read the initial post, I just chalked it up to PHB syndrome. Then I thought about it. This is an example of just how STOOPID things can get: We have five very competent folks maintaining and expanding a client's network. A CCIE, two CCNPs, an MCSE + CCNP, and a MCSE+I. Last month, the client's "technical" rep tells me my folks need certifications in MS LAN Manager. I explained that LAN Manager cert was retired long ago and superceded by MCSE. Went to MS web site. Called the MS rep. Client Tech Rep is suspicious, but goes away. Last week, he came back. Said everyone needs CCNA. I explained CCIE and CCNP are above CCNA and subsume CCNA content. Went to Cisco web site. Called Cisco rep. Client says requirement stays. So I have 5 guys who get to take the CCNA. (SIGH). At least I got the client to pay for the exam, time off the job, and time and one half for the guys filling in during exams. The moral of the story? There isn't one. This week the client's tech rep. wanted everyone to have -- are you ready --?? Microsoft Certified Novell Engineer cert. I told him to sign us all up and tell us the date, time, and location for the exam. Oh yeah, the network is NT and NFS -- so the Novell stuff will REALLY come in handy. And for the wiseguys out there -- I DO know there is no such thing as a MS Certified Novell Engineer! David - Original Message - From: "David C Prall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 2:47 PM Subject: Re: Is this true? The real question on our minds is WHY??? Asking a CCIE to take the CCNA exam is like asking someone with a PhD in math to retake college algebra. Reminds of when Todd Lammle took the CCNA 2.0 exam and got a 1000. David C Prall, CCDP CCNP MCSE MCNE [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dcp.dcptech.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]