RE: BSCI 640-901 [7:74922]

2003-09-08 Thread David Vital
know BGP.  also be able to distribute routes from ospf to bgp.  It's a tough
test but it's doable.  and the material you have should cover it as long as
you suplement it with isis.

David


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Off topic. Non Jet direct printers [7:74831]

2003-09-04 Thread David Vital
I'm trying to come up with a solution for centrally manageing and
configuring non jet direct printers.  Example would be lexmark or canon.  I
havn't been able to find a product that will let me consolidate their
administration on one box. I'm not so much worried about managing print jobs
as their network setup and config.

Thanks, 

David


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Re: FW: Opinions on running Hybrid vs Native mode [7:73342]

2003-08-04 Thread David Vital
I love this site.  I had no idea that the failover from one sup to another
would get longer if we move from CAT to Native.  I hope they get that fixed
quickly.

David


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RE: More on Autonegotiation [7:73195]

2003-08-01 Thread David Vital
I have to ask what you are basing that statement on.  I'm not trying to
dispute you, just to gain moe information.  I have never seen anything that
would indicate a change in Duplex when set to 100 full on each end.  Are you
suggesting that 100/half is the way to go with this?

David


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RE: FW: Opinions on running Hybrid vs Native mode [7:73342]

2003-08-01 Thread David Vital
When you say failover at 2-5 seconds...are you talking about from one Sup
mod to another?..or are you talking about convergence in the network?  2-5
seconds makes me think of the sup mods and 90 seconds makes me think of
spanning tree.


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RE: Ping from Router. What's my address? [7:73196]

2003-07-29 Thread David Vital
Thanks.  


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Re: Gigabit Copper Switch [7:73116]

2003-07-28 Thread David Vital
I guess it might just be too expensive but I expected to see a recomendation
for a 4500 series switch.  Gigabit copper capable and it should have no
problem handling the server farm load.

David


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Re: FORTEZZA for Cisco router? [7:73114]

2003-07-28 Thread David Vital
Egad  I hope the fortezza has gotten easier to use.  When I was in the Army
I was trained on that card.  I hated it.  That's been several years but I
shuddered when I read the name.  I thought the military had rerouted and
gone with a software based client solution to cover encryption anyway.

David


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RE: OT - Ethernet Fire Alarm [7:72749]

2003-07-24 Thread David Vital
First thought.   A fire breaks out in the Core network area.  Perhaps a 6509
bursts into flames.  That brings the network down or at the very least makes
the spanning tree crap the bed for a good minute and a half.  The alarm
doesn't go off (at least not in a timely manner) and people die.  Looking
back do you wish you had just nodded when they said someone was cabling the
building for fire/emergency alarms?

Just my thought.  

David




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RE: 640-606 Support Exam [7:72870]

2003-07-24 Thread David Vital
If you have already done the other exams and are fairly comfortable I would
use the Sybex Exam notes.  They are succinct and easy to understand. 
Anything you don't feel real comfortable on you can always brush up on from
the Cisco web site.

David


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RE: OT - Ethernet Fire Alarm [7:72749]

2003-07-23 Thread David Vital
First thought.   A fire breaks out in the Core network area.  Perhaps a 6509
bursts into flames.  That brings the network down or at the very least makes
the spanning tree crap the bed for a good minute and a half.  The alarm
doesn't go off (at least not in a timely manner) and people die.  Looking
back do you wish you had just nodded when they said someone was cabling the
building for fire/emergency alarms?

Just my thought.  

David


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BCRAN 640-605 V.S. 505 ?'s [7:72774]

2003-07-23 Thread David Vital
I've looked at some of the listed requirements for the 605 and 505 BCRAN
exams and they look almost identical.  The list for the newer exam 642-821
has dsl and cable modem stuff.  I'm using the 505 study material..I'm
taking the 605 and wondering if I might see DSL stuff anyway.  Anyone take
605 recently?

David


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Re: BCRAN 640-605 V.S. 505 ?'s [7:72774]

2003-07-23 Thread David Vital
A.   Thanks.  That's good to know.

David


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Re: Starting off towards a CCNP [7:72734]

2003-07-23 Thread David Vital
I'm gonna deviate from the norm on this.  I have taken the BSCI and
Switching exams in the last month. I think the study material you have would
likely be fine for those except you need to add Is-Is to the routing info. 
I think that you could hunker down and get ready for the switching exam
before they change it September 7.  once they change it You will have to
either get new study material or supplement it more than for the current set
of exams.  But like I said, I would knock off the Swiitching one first since
(my opinion) it is easier.  Get it out of the way before it changes.  The
Routing exam isn't supposed to change all that much.

David


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RE: mac address filtering [7:72684]

2003-07-21 Thread David Vital
WELL  You can set port security by blade (module) to make it easier,
but if you want to be able to move from one port to another that's gonna be
tough.  I don't know of any 3rd party software that manages that but I
wouldn't be surprised if it was out there.An option you might want to
explore is setting up a MAC-access list.  The question really is how tight
you want security to be and what sort of trade off you are willing to accept
for the convenience.  You can even set up the MAC-access list and associate
traffic for a VLAN and what to do with that traffic.  But you are getting
back to a granular management that might make it easier to just set the
security by port again.  check out this page on Cisco's site.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/c3550/1214ea1/3550cr/cli1.htm#23702

Good luck.  Let us know how you work it out.

David


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Passed BCMSN Thanks to all [7:72598]

2003-07-18 Thread David Vital
Once again, the topics covered here and last minute questions answered by
group members have paid off.  2 down, 2 to go.  Time to start chewing thru
BCRAN.  I thought the Switching exam was definately easier than the BSCI
test.  Only had two things throw me.  One was a network diagram that I was
supposed to mark as an answer to the question and I could swear that the box
in the lower right hand corner said more   I hadnd't finished answering
the question but wanted to know what more there was so I clicked it..and
it moved on to the next question.  So, I'm sure I got that wrong.  The other
issue was questions about 3500XL switches.  I don't recall seeing anything
in any study material saying that they were included in the test.   I've
worked with them and done some reading on them so I wasn't totally in the
dark, but it freaked me out for a minute.

Now it's time for BCRAN.guess I'll start tonight.

David


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Switching exam tomorrow. 1 question. [7:72485]

2003-07-17 Thread David Vital
I'm taking the 640-604 BCMSN test tomorrow.  Without divulging anything that
might get anyone in trouble, I'm trying to find out what sort of simulations
I can expect.I havn't really been able to find anything that would give
me an idea of what they will be.  Thanks,

David


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RE: Switching exam tomorrow. 1 question. [7:72485]

2003-07-17 Thread David Vital
Thanks, I appreciate the heads up.   I think I'm ready.  Just took short nap
to let me study for a few more hours tonight.  The only thing I am still
having issues with is MAC address to ip multicast address.  Even after the
class I'm still not totally comfortable with that but I figure after a
couple more hours I should have it locked in.

David


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RE: Any LANE on CCNP switching [7:72197]

2003-07-14 Thread David Vital
it doesn't seem like anyone wants to commit and possibly tell you not to
worry about LANE when you might have some questions on it in the test.  From
everything I have seen on line, in the books I have recently studied and
from the BCMSN class I took last week, I would say NO  I don't think there
are any LANE questions on the 640-604 test.

David


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Re: BSMSN 1.1 Vs 2.0 [7:71932]

2003-07-06 Thread David Vital
That figures.  Well I noticed it too late.  Class stoarts tomorrow.  Such is
life.  I will just get an updated cisco press book whenthey come out and
bring myself up to speed.  Thanks for the heads up  it gives me something to
look for.

David


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RE: CCNP newbie [7:71868]

2003-07-04 Thread David Vital
I hope the routing exam is the hardest.  I just took it yesterday and am
starting the preperation for the Switching exam next.  I used the Sybex book
among other things.  since I havn't found the Cisco Press books for anything
newer than the 503 exam, I havn't seen them.  I'm curious to see the new
books that come out for this next series of exams.  I checked their website
and didn't see the new books listed yet.   I think you should be fine with
either series of books.  The main thing is to get comfortable with the
material.

David


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BSMSN 1.1 Vs 2.0 [7:71932]

2003-07-04 Thread David Vital
My company is sending me to the BCMSN class next week.  I'm grateful for
that, but I had called the training company last month when registering to
make sure it was the new class.  Just checked the Cisco website for a look
and the link showed the class I'm taking as 1.1 not the new 2.0  .  From
what I can gather, the main difference is AVVID.  I guess it's too late now
to make a change in plans.  does anyone know what else I will be missing
compared to the newer class?

David


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BSCI Passed. 3 to go. [7:71852]

2003-07-03 Thread David Vital
Much thanks to all for the interesting problems that are posted here. 
Reading and thinking thru many of these issues helped a lot in preparing for
the test.

Took the class from global knowledge
used the Sybex BSCI 640-901 book
An old Exam Cram 640-503 book
old BSCN transcender practice test.  
bought some crappy practice test online.  the grammer was awful explanations
weren't very good and some of the answers were wrong. tossed it out after
first 25-30 quesitons. Asked for my  money back...doubt I'll ever hear from
them.

BGP BGP BGP.  I guess it's adaptive??  BGP was my worst thing to study and
it showed...even though I spent more time on that than anything else. I
thought the route simulations were very small and hard to see (my vision is
better than 20/20).The test was well written, but some of the questions were
tricky. more than one correct answer one just slightly better.
The dry erase marker died in the middle of the test during a router sim when
I was trying to figure the mask for distributing a route.  they couldn't
find another one for me for more than 5 minutes so I was trying to figure it
all in my head.  it rattled me a little and I had to start the question
over.  Got that question answered and two questions later another question
that required me to do some writing.  Thankfully they showed up with another
pen.  I guess I lost about 10 minutes
Heavy on redistribution questions.  Know the isis commands well(like the
clns commands v.s. the way it's done for the other protocols.  And, finally
back to BGP  Policy based routing.  know the attributes.  That was a beast
when I was studying and it came back to haunt me.  you really need to
understand the different types and what it means as far as how the traffic
will be handled.
As for the simulation difficulty.  I didn't think it was too hard.  Be able
to do a basic router config to properly reflect how you will connect several
LAN's and also know how to eliminate/reduce routing info from one area to
another.  It really followed the 640-901 format they laid out.  I don't
think I've given anything away that they could hold against me so I'd better
quit while I'm ahead.
Oh...  2 more things.  The simulation practice before you take the test.  DO
IT.  The simulation process itself took some getting used to.  when I did
the practice thing before the test I got stuck in it and would have been
freaking out had it been the real test.
Lastly.  The survey you take before the test.  I didn't like that.  they are
asking you how comfortable you are doing all these tasks that you are about
to be tested on.  they swear it won't have an effect on the content of
your test.  Made me nervouse.  the things I said I was less confident
with.more questions lower score.  Maybe it's just because I knew my
weaknesses.  Best of luck all  and again thanks for the help along the
way.  Now on to BCMSN

David



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RE: Cisco Training [7:71811]

2003-07-03 Thread David Vital
I have to disagree with the previous answers.  I took the BSCI class
November 2002.  It was great.  Perhaps my experience level was lower but I
really learned a lot and the instructor was quite knowledgable and a good
teacher to boot.  I should have taken the test within a few weeks of coming
back from the class but I got side tracked on a project.  When I hunkered
down last month to prepare the class came back to me.  Also this place used
the Cisco books but supplemented them with their own labs.  I was very
pleased. I will agree that the classes are quite expensive, but training is
one of the reasons I work where I do.  I'm taking another class this
month.   If it's provided by your employer jump on the chance.

David


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Re: The world's newest CCNP [7:71757]

2003-07-02 Thread David Vital
Congratulations.  I take my routing test tomorrowI envy you being done. 
But as for the job market I think your attitude is a guarantee for success. 
Take the job that's available.  Sometimes you have to work your way into a
good position.  Best of luck.

David


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RE: CCNP Study Materials [7:71789]

2003-07-02 Thread David Vital
I'd personally wait a month or so  before buying till the new books come out
for the new tests.  But if you are in a hurry you might want to try the
Sybex BSCI book.  I also like the Exam Cram  book, but they havn't come out
with a new one that covers the is-is section of the test.

Good luck.


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RE: Practice tests....Good, Bad, Ethical? [7:71505]

2003-06-30 Thread David Vital
Oh it's certainly not the bulk off my study material.  I didn't use any
practice tests When I was studying for my CCNA but I needed to test myself a
little more for the routing exam.  The thing that sticks with me is 2 years
ago I had a MCSE who worked for me who got the job based on his
certification (I didn't do the hiring).   He was the most incompetent person
I have ever met.  Completely worthless.  Because it was a very large project
and he was being billed out at a high rate to our clients, my supervisors
didn't want to get rid of him.  So we hid him away from the clients for the
next few months and had him packing boxes and doing other menial work.   I
remember him once saying that he used the transcender tests to prepare.
The brain dump style sites just got me thinking and made me wonder what
others thought of it all.

David


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RE: ccnp prep ? [7:71660]

2003-06-30 Thread David Vital
I took the BSCI class and have been using the Lammle book to help get ready
for the test.  I have found it to be very good.  He explains things very
well and gives great examples.


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Practice tests....Good, Bad, Ethical? [7:71505]

2003-06-27 Thread David Vital
I have been using two practice tests for study.  The one that came with the
Sybex book, and an older Transcender (bscn) test.  The transcender one I
think is a good learning tool because the answers go into detail.  For the
Sybex one, I actually use the flash card test on my palm just for repition
of studying.  But I am constantly getting emails about other tests that seem
less like study tools and more like brain dumps.   I thought they were
shutting down some of these sites.
I know we all want our Certs to cary some weight since we work hard for them
so here's my question(s)

Do these tests and websites tick you off? Are they valid learning tools? Is
there really a big difference between passing this way and the CCNP
Bootcamps? Do you not care because the people who pass by memorization will
likely make fools of themselves when they actually get a job based on their
Certs.


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RE: Needs some help [7:71491]

2003-06-26 Thread David Vital
What level of job have you been applying for?


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Re: FR concept question [7:71263]

2003-06-25 Thread David Vital
AhhhThat just turned on a small light bulb for me.  So you have
uiniderectional service but you configure it for diferent paths to and
from.  I have seen a similar installation and I just figured the design team
had gone insane.  now it makes sense.  I like this explanation better.

David


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RE: how about ccie salary in US? [7:71143]

2003-06-25 Thread David Vital
douglas mizell wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
I don't normally participate in threads like this
 but I could not
 resist. Everything posted so far is probably correct and
 necessary and would
 apply generically to any job hunt. I have my lab scheduled for
 October
 (first attempt). I started this odyssey a couple of years ago
 and like many
 of us have spent far too much time and money to back out now.
 But, I do not
 believe that getting my number is going to suddenly make a huge
 difference
 in my earning potential. Everyone's profile is different but I
 think the
 trick is to be diverse, willing to work long hours, travel and
 wear alot of
 hats. Let's face it, the 90's, God blessum, are over and so are
 the days of
 $150,000 salaries for CCIE's. I have worked overseas for the
 past several
 years on military bases and there is plenty of oppurtunity for
 experienced
 people in this little niche if you are willing to do it. The
 certifications
 will get you in the door, the USAF requires at least a CCNP for
 senior
 infrastructure guys but experience is the biggest factor by
 far. They will
 not consider someone with less than a couple of years
 experience, cert or
 not. I honestly cannot comment on the job market at home except
 to say it
 sounds dismal, if there really are CCIE's out there fighting
 over $35K jobs
 than to hell with this whole idea, open a taco stand.
 
 Regards,
 Douglas Mizell
 CCNP/CCDP
 
 

You forgot to include something there.  To take advantage of that USAF
possibility you not only have to be willing to do it, but able to do it.  
The moment you start talking about a position that requires a Secret
clearence I would estimate that you slice 35-40 percent of those who are
technically qualified right out of the picture.  make it a TS and you
probably killed 75+ percent.  CCIE's trying to get ccna level jobs?  I
suppose some are.  But I have to say I only have 6 years in the computer
arena with just 2 years holding my CCNA.  (I'm sitting the BSCI exam next
week).  I was a contracted employee at my last job and the project ended.
The first thing I did was file for unemployment (since I paid for it) and
start job hunting. When I was down there filing there was a group of 11
Cisco/nortel people who were there together.  They had come from their
meeting at ATT where they had just found out that they were losing their
jobs.  They said there were another 20-30 in their group who were also about
to hit the skids.  I job hunted for 2 months before being offered an
acceptable position.  I took a cut but I got a job I love.
I was very intimidated when I found out that 30-40 qualified experienced
Cisco people were jumping in the job hunt at the same time as I was but I
bet I did better than at least half of them and in less time.  I just don't
believe that you can not find a job if you are experienced and certified. 
It might not be your dream job. it might not pay as much as you thought you
would be making now.  And it might require you to relocate.  But there are
jobs out there.

David


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RE: how about ccie salary in US? [7:71143]

2003-06-25 Thread David Vital
n rf wrote:

 Therefore when people say there are no jobs, they don't mean
 that there are literally no jobs, they mean that the overall
 quality of the jobs has declined dramatically (something which
 I doubt anybody will seriously dispute) such that other options
 look mighty attractive by comparison.  People will therefore
 leave this field not because there are literally no jobs, but
 because other fields other decidedly better opportunities.
 
  

Well...  4 years ago I was making about 13K a year doing Cisco, Microsoft
and Unix for Uncle Sam.  I say if the people are willing to leave the
Networking field due to job dissatisfaction, all the better for me.  That
sounds great for my future, but I really don't believe it will happen in
significant enough a number to be a silver lining in my bank account. 
Leaving networking for Real Estate.  ok..  switching back to Unix and still
making great money.  Good Lord.  What a great life it is to be able to do
that.  My frame of reference must just be so dramatically different from a
lot of the other's here.  I don't understand what all the griping is about.
I read a quote in an article the other day that just rings totally true to
me.  Nobody is worth $200,000 a year. NOBODY.  If you can get it, more
power to you.  But if you were getting that or $100,000 a year and suddenly
you can't and the only thing you can get is a 70K or 80 K job...  Even in
another area..  That's astounding to me that you would be so upset . But
maybe it's why you made that kind of money and I never have.  You believe
you can  and I'm smiling all the way to the bank with less.  I guess the
picture all depends on the angle you are viewing it from.


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RE: Different Cisco IDs?? [7:71316]

2003-06-24 Thread David Vital
when you registered for the exam did you give them your cisco id number?


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RE: OT: Training Companies [7:70986]

2003-06-22 Thread David Vital
Havn't been to those companies.  But I have been to one class with Global
Knowledge and am getting ready to take another from them.  It was
fantastic.  And my coworkers who took their class also had a very good
experience.

David


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RE: BSCI 640-901 or 643-801??? [7:70658]

2003-06-15 Thread David Vital
Thanks,  Having to wait for the results wasn't something I had considered. 
I guess I will go ahead and take the 901 test.  I also don't want to test on
the Ipv6 stuff yet either.  Thanks for the heads up.   I just looked over
the test description again and the only thing they say is advanced IP
addressing.  if they are testing on IPv6 I think they need to let you know
that.  I guess that's why it's a BETA.

By the way,   How did you do?

David


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RE: BSCI 640-901 or 643-801??? [7:70658]

2003-06-15 Thread David Vital
I'll correct myself before anyone else does.  In the design portion of the
test description, they list IPV6.  I also didn't know that RIPv2 was on the
test.  I took the BSCI v1.2 class last year and have done all my studying
based on the topics that were covered in that course.  once again,
GROUPSTUDY saves my butt.  I just printed out the v2.0 test requirements to
make sure I brush up on everything.

David


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BSCI 640-901 or 643-801??? [7:70658]

2003-06-14 Thread David Vital
I am getting ready to take the BSCI test in the beginning of July.  But I
don't know what test to take.  I have looked at the descriptions and while
they are very different, I'm wondering how different the tests actually are.
is it a difference of testing method  or substance? Any thoughts? 
suggestions?

Thanks,  

David


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RE: Virtual MAC and Port Security [7:70030]

2003-06-05 Thread David Vital
I really appreciate your response.  I have been trying to make sense of the
whole problem and suggested solution.  Suppose I have only 2 NICs.  one
going to each of two switches.  They are supposed to be pooling but for some
reason I see two MACs that differ only by the last character.  But those
MACs seems to jump from one port to the other.   any ideas as to how I would
solve this one?

David


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Virtual MAC and Port Security [7:70030]

2003-06-03 Thread David Vital
I have several Servers that are going to be doing NIC pooling.  So I'm
supposed to see a virtual MAC address instead of the actual physical address
of the NIC's.  I run the NICs from one server to different switches for
fault tolerance.  If I have several 6500 series switches how can I set it up
for Port Security?  I know I can set up the ports to handle several MAC's
but if they are running the same virtual MAC what's the answer?

David


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RE: Am I over my head guys? [7:69746]

2003-05-30 Thread David Vital
Here's my two cents. 

I am assuming you interviewed for this position.  Probably in person.  There
are two possibilities.
1) You misrepresented yourself and made them think you have greater skills
than you do ( and this would be stupid because if you get a job that you
just aren't prepared for you definately will bomb.)

2) You were forthright and they were impressed with the total package of
YOU  your experience, your communication skills, maturity, ethics,
displayed ability to learn and adapt, etc.

my guess is it's somewhere in the neighborhood of option #2. If it is, and
it really is a good company, they will expect a bit of adjustment.(please
them and make it a short adjustment).

Good Luck,

David


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RE: 6509 cam entries [7:65758]

2003-03-20 Thread David Vital
Did you do a clear counters?


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RE: CCNP Certification [7:65759]

2003-03-20 Thread David Vital
Ms. Oppenheimer, Are the new ccnp exams going to be 642 level exams?  I
recieved got that email from Cisco but after looking at the list of 642
exams, I just assumed that it was only for tests that I wasn't going to be
taking.  I thought they had already updated the BSCI test.  Am I way off
base here?

David


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RE: SPAN on a 6006 [7:59373]

2002-12-22 Thread David Vital
sorry to take so long to get back.  Took some time off  I believe that if
you are trying to span more than one port at a time, you have to put those
ports in the same VLAN and span the whole VLAN.  of course, by this point
you probably figured this out already.

good luck

David


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RE: SPAN on a 6006 [7:59373]

2002-12-17 Thread David Vital
It's just like copying a file

copy source destination

span source destination

the sniffer gets attatched to the second port you specified . Also, your
gonna have to make sure you have port security off.  if I misunderstood your
question, let me know.

David


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BSCI class was Awesome [7:57972]

2002-11-23 Thread David Vital
I asked for input on Global Knowledge, a couple weeks ago, and was asked by
those who gave it good marks, to share my experience.  I got home last
night.  Took the BSCI class in New York.  I am exhausted by the volume of
information covered, but I'm really jazzed by the experience.  The
instructor was fantastic.  The class was the best I have ever taken. I have
never learned so much in such a short time.  Also, I believe the
founder/owner of this websight is somehow connected to Global Knowledge, or
was at one time. That is based on a conversation at lunch with the BSCI
instructor.  I wouldn't hesitate to take another class from them, especially
if Blair Buchanan is teaching it.  Ok, I know I'm really glomming about the
whole experience, but I feel very confident about taking the test now.


David


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RE: Flash for 6500 SUPII [7:57434]

2002-11-14 Thread David Vital
I'm looking at a box of 20 meg Viking Components linear flash cards.   The
box they are in has a cisco sticker on it, so I don't know if they are just
reselling someone elses product or if our supplier put that sticker on
there.  These are the ones I use on our 6500 serries switches.  I should
think you would be ok with after market flash cards.

David


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Re: Has Anyone used Global Knowledge? [7:57297]

2002-11-13 Thread David Vital
Thanks for all the input.  I am trying to ramp up for this class to get the
most out of it.  Should be great judging on all the response.

David


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Has Anyone used Global Knowledge? [7:57297]

2002-11-12 Thread David Vital
Wondering if anyone here has experience with Global Knowledge and the
classes they offer.

Thanks, 

David


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Re: Strange 6509 problems [7:55871]

2002-10-18 Thread David Vital
Ok, this totally doesn't make sense.   if you upgrade the os version on one
sup mod(obviously it would have to be the one in blade 1, then the one in
blade 2 is going to automatically upgrade as well.  that's the whole point
in having redundent sup mods.  Out of curiosity, what sup mod do you have?
is it the one with the pfc?, or do you have the msfc cards?  have you
contacted Cisco about this one?

David 

also, what the heck is tifpc?


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Putting in 6500 [7:53696]

2002-09-20 Thread David Vital

I am putting in some 6500's this week.  Think I have done all the
preparation, got all the Vlan's in the config and pruned properly. Just need
to trunk it in.   What landmines should I be on the lookout for?  even
obscure issues are a welcome response. The less that can surprise me, the
better.

David 


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RE: MCNS help needed [7:45355]

2002-05-29 Thread David Vital

Gonna be sorry I asked this..but which test is that?   looked at the
Cisco site and couldn't find an MCNS.

David


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Answered my Own question [7:45355]

2002-05-29 Thread David Vital

Managing Cisco Network Security. ok...I should have used the search
function in the first place.

David


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