douglas mizell wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>            I don't normally participate in threads like this
> but I could not
> resist. Everything posted so far is probably correct and
> necessary and would
> apply generically to any job hunt. I have my lab scheduled for
> October
> (first attempt). I started this odyssey a couple of years ago
> and like many
> of us have spent far too much time and money to back out now.
> But, I do not
> believe that getting my number is going to suddenly make a huge
> difference
> in my earning potential. Everyone's profile is different but I
> think the
> trick is to be diverse, willing to work long hours, travel and
> wear alot of
> hats. Let's face it, the 90's, God blessum, are over and so are
> the days of
> $150,000 salaries for CCIE's. I have worked overseas for the
> past several
> years on military bases and there is plenty of oppurtunity for
> experienced
> people in this little niche if you are willing to do it. The
> certifications
> will get you in the door, the USAF requires at least a CCNP for
> senior
> infrastructure guys but experience is the biggest factor by
> far. They will
> not consider someone with less than a couple of years
> experience, cert or
> not. I honestly cannot comment on the job market at home except
> to say it
> sounds dismal, if there really are CCIE's out there fighting
> over $35K jobs
> than to hell with this whole idea, open a taco stand.
> 
> Regards,
> Douglas Mizell
> CCNP/CCDP
> 
> 

You forgot to include something there.  To take advantage of that USAF
possibility you not only have to be willing to do it, but able to do it.  
The moment you start talking about a position that requires a Secret
clearence I would estimate that you slice 35-40 percent of those who are
technically qualified right out of the picture.  make it a TS and you
probably killed 75+ percent.  CCIE's trying to get ccna level jobs?  I
suppose some are.  But I have to say I only have 6 years in the computer
arena with just 2 years holding my CCNA.  (I'm sitting the BSCI exam next
week).  I was a contracted employee at my last job and the project ended.
The first thing I did was file for unemployment (since I paid for it) and
start job hunting. When I was down there filing there was a group of 11
Cisco/nortel people who were there together.  They had come from their
meeting at AT&T where they had just found out that they were losing their
jobs.  They said there were another 20-30 in their group who were also about
to hit the skids.  I job hunted for 2 months before being offered an
acceptable position.  I took a cut but I got a job I love.
I was very intimidated when I found out that 30-40 qualified experienced
Cisco people were jumping in the job hunt at the same time as I was but I
bet I did better than at least half of them and in less time.  I just don't
believe that you can not find a job if you are experienced and certified. 
It might not be your dream job. it might not pay as much as you thought you
would be making now.  And it might require you to relocate.  But there are
jobs out there.

David


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